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OpiBli$$1988
04-11-2007, 02:12 AM
Okay so in your oppinion what is the most euphoric benzo to you?..im trying to decide whether to get a bunch of 1mg Rohypnols or 10mg Valiums or 2mg Xanax's..and want to kno what every1s favorites r so i can pick the funnest. ive nvr tryed Rohypnols b4 and am curious if their funner than xanys/vals or if they just knock ur ass out. i want to pick the funnest/most euphoric pill. any suggestions?

Chipper
04-11-2007, 02:41 AM
I really like Valium, never had a Xanax and loathe Rohypnols. Stay away from the Rohypnol - they make you feel like crap, IMO.

Woowoo
04-11-2007, 03:50 AM
I enjoy the buzz from valium a lot more than the buzz from xanax ... and yet if I have a choice between the two, I prefer xanax. Why? Because I only take them for sleeping purposes anyhow, and xanax have less of a hangover (i.e. I can get out of bed the next morning). If I eat valium, then the next day I feel like a zombie. This is coming from somebody who sees benzos as a "necessary evil" and I've never really enjoyed them.

OpiBli$$1988
04-11-2007, 04:02 AM
yeh ill probley just get the vals since im gettin em for 32 cents a peice, i was just thinking the rhoypnols might be more fun since their a "harder" benzo than the others

flipside
04-11-2007, 04:20 AM
Rohypnol ..hate it..isn't it the " date rape drug" talk about feeling like a zombie.

valium depresses me

Xanax for recreation..just be sure not to drive and and have little memory of what you did while high.

Nostromos
04-11-2007, 05:05 AM
i've never tried benzo's before.

i take that back, i did 15 mg of valium before, but it didn't seem to do anything. i want to either try more valium, or some xanax, maybe. i get extremely anxious and i hate it. lately i've gotten into perco's- not because i'm very fond of them, but 'cos that's what's available. I think morphine is my all-time favorite since i refuse to do heroin or oxycontin. but the quality of the high varies, even with good, lab-produced morphine.

i limit my drug intake but this last weekend has reminded me of how drugs alone CAN make life seem to suck so very much less. modern life is atrociously sad and everyone is horribly alone. yeah, including people in relationships. fucking alone. other people preach the greatness of embracing suffering. i say fuck life without reasons to live, fuck it up the ass with a big rubber dick. then break it off and beat it with the rest of it. i need something to look forward to if i'm gonna get up this morning before i feel like getting up.

OCfenatiq
04-11-2007, 09:01 AM
I enjoy the buzz from valium a lot more than the buzz from xanax ... and yet if I have a choice between the two, I prefer xanax. Why? Because I only take them for sleeping purposes anyhow, and xanax have less of a hangover (i.e. I can get out of bed the next morning). If I eat valium, then the next day I feel like a zombie. This is coming from somebody who sees benzos as a "necessary evil" and I've never really enjoyed them.
Probably agree with Woo on this one, and I do the same on using xanax to sleep, but don't start that if you haven't already. Xanax is much harder to stop taking, unless you just use for a short time, over a long period it's very hard to stop. A friend of mine took about 4 bars a day (2mgx4) for 5 months or so, script from the doc, and buying extra on the side; then he decided he didn't like taking them anymore and just stopped (no taper) and the second day w/o them he had a seizure. This may not always happen, I don't know it was the first time I'd heard of that happening and this was just a few months ago...

Xanax - half life: 6 hrs
Valium - half life: 10 hrs
Don't know about Rohypnols but this is the "date rape drup" or one of them at least...

flipside
04-11-2007, 09:03 AM
Probably agree with Woo on this one, and I do the same on using xanax to sleep, but don't start that if you haven't already. Xanax is much harder to stop taking, unless you just use for a short time, over a long period it's very hard to stop. A friend of mine took about 4 bars a day (2mgx4) for 5 months or so, script from the doc, and buying extra on the side; then he decided he didn't like taking them anymore and just stopped (no taper) and the second day w/o them he had a seizure. This may not always happen, I don't know it was the first time I'd heard of that happening and this was just a few months ago...

Xanax - half life: 6 hrs
Valium - half life: 10 hrs
Don't know about Rohypnols but this is the "date rape drup" or one of them at least...


Just so you know..stopping any benzo after an extended period of use,,without a taper can not ony cause siezures but death as well.

OxyContinuously
04-11-2007, 09:08 AM
In answer to the original question, Valium would be number one on a fun scale, then Xanax, but forget Rohypnol-- nasty stuff, much too sedating, IMO.

So I would go with the Vals.

later

Oxy

Dilaudid
04-11-2007, 09:25 AM
Hello opiophiles,

For me Valium (Diazepam) depresses me and I feel too much physical sedation.
Xanax (Alprazolam) is a wise choice.
Versed (Midazolam) is a good choice.
And Rohypnol (Flunitrazepam) is the best benzo IMHO (we all react differently to a drug) the psychological calm of Alprazolam with a potent muscle relaxant effect!

Best regards Dilaudid

Babydollangel
04-11-2007, 12:21 PM
well gotta comment on this one since this is one thing i have much insight on.....here goes....

im going on almost 4 years with a script of 2mg xanax tablets with instructions to take one every 8 hours......when this first started i begged my dr to take me off of them cuz i recognized things got crazy very fast when i tried to just not take them anymore...i had no idea they were so dangerous esp at the amount im to be taking......this was also my first lesson with tolerence and wd of a drug....
i did manage a very very very slow taper ....took me over 5 months at my own pace cuz i had plenty to do it with at my pace since i never took the amount instructed all the time so i had extra....the dr expected me to taper in a two week period of time off of a 2 yr 6mg per day habit.....well didnt take long before i knew that wasnt going to work...i stilll never got completely off them...could never get past taking that tiny sliver at bedtime, and then went back and begged to be put back on them as my life had gone down hill with anxiety and i was desperate for releif....he was more than glad to give me my old script of 90 2mg bars a month back with refills !!! i hate i have to take it but honestly think stress and anxiety would kill me if i didnt soooo now i have nearly a 4 yr habit of up to 6mgs/day on me....i shudder to think of this script being taken from me for some reason.
i also have found myself or so ive been told in situations that even today i have no recollection of cuz of xanax....It IS ALSO considered a date rape drug. It is also the most sought after recreationally ..i dont know why cept maybe to a person who wants to come down from uppers,,,,,i personally find no recreational value from them....but i know someone who swears euphoria from them.hmmmm...maybe its cuz i have an actual need for them and they dont...also gotta watch gettin messed up on xanax...ive done some outlandish shit and would swear on my life i didnt...lol....I WISH i could feel euphoria from them but they do nothing more than take away a lil of my panic/attacks and bring on sleep...be very careful cuz wd from them is hell on earth and i swear should my dr take my script away or taper me for some reason i will have no choice other than walkin into our local hospital and threaten to take my life....If someone wont put me back on them..........i doubt ill ever live any more years of my life without xanax in it....it is a godsend cuz of GAD and panic problems but it will punish you quickly if you get dependent on them and try to stop plus its dangerous as it lowers seizure threshold.....once you are on them for any amount of time your pretty much there for life dare i say....but if you feel euphoria from them your lucky ....personally i dont see why anyone wants them cept for legit reasons....but maybe not having panic disorder the euphoria is possible...kinda like pain pills dont provide euphoria if there is indeed pain, but no pain, great euphoria....
ive been on a huge dose for along time so feel i have a right to throw in my two cents....personally id stay away from them cept on rare occasion if you like them recreationally......otherwise, benzo wd makes opiate wd look like a walk in the park.....plus the seizure risk....oh yeah, also i learned awhile back that xanax hits the same part of the brain alcohol does...so i guess its like a 6 pack in a pill....for whatever thats worth....my opinion, and i know you didnt ask...lol...but id not play around with the benzos for more than a day or two at a time or your gonna regret it.....when i was trying to get off this med, i read and researched everything about it......id rather face opiate wd than benzo wd.....so if ya enjoy it just limit it.....my two cents for what its worth from someone whos been there and didnt know and was not told what benzo wds were like. if you need them i dont think youd be gettin euphoria, but if you need them they can be a god send but also a double edged sword that cuts really deep.
good luck and just be informed..i wish someone had told me before hand what i was up against...i doubt ill live another day of my life without my xanax. its pretty much a permanant deal for me.
i might not know much about alot of the meds on here but hydro. and xanax i KNOW my shit on.....so heres my take for what its worth....lol....dont play with it for too long or your gonna have some problms!

Seedy
04-11-2007, 03:36 PM
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again: benzos by themselves aren't euphoric and have little receational value. Mix a small dose of benzo of choice with a few drinks and it's like a whole new drug! Take one at the end of a night on stims to relievef that edgy paranoia. And best of all, take benzos with mushrooms and ohmygod, paranoia is replaced by an extatic euphoria to rival mdma.

matfield
04-11-2007, 03:36 PM
i prefer valium too- especially with a beer or two:)

over here rohypnol is sooo popular. everyone is doing it. especially people in mmt. at lot of them shooting the done right together with some rohypnol. and of course all the free basers doin it too-in need to come down.
i am getting too tired from flunitrazepam.
i'd always prefer a valium or lorazepam over rohypnol

euphoria2002
04-11-2007, 06:48 PM
Benzos in general aren't all that euphoric to begin with. I've used Xanax and K-pins but have yet to try valium. They pretty much put me to sleep without any other effects.....desirable or otherwise.

Xanax wears off nicely by the next day but Kpins effect seems to linger, especially next morning. I've heard that valium can give some euphoric effects in some people.

You really want some euphoria? You know what you should be taking..... and it ain't benzos.:D

Euph

SuperJunky
04-11-2007, 06:58 PM
Most "rophynol" available in the US (and a good deal of it in mexico too) is actually black market high dose diazepam. If it where me I would take the rophynol just for the sake of trying it if I thought it where real, after that xanax and my third choice would be valium, though valium is usually the most "recreational."

Babydollangel
04-11-2007, 07:02 PM
Benzos in general aren't all that euphoric to begin with. I've used Xanax and K-pins but have yet to try valium. They pretty much put me to sleep without any other effects.....desirable or otherwise.

Xanax wears off nicely by the next day but Kpins effect seems to linger, especially next morning. I've heard that valium can give some euphoric effects in some people.

You really want some euphoria? You know what you should be taking..... and it ain't benzos.:D

Euph

good greif, Euph,
Just reading your reply here i have had a most shitty day....started out better than i thought since technically im in wd hell but its gettin easier......now freakin husband wanting to argue with me, kids not minding......omg id freakin trade in an arm and leg for about 5 hours of pure euphoria right now....just have no access to any:( :( :(
Your reply makes me want to trash this 'trying to do good, be better, get in control attitude' .....im fixing to say screw it give me drugs.....fuck being nice....no one around my house cares so why should I!! i just wish i knew me the right peeps :D id leave for a few, come home a new woman......lol

Brony
04-11-2007, 08:01 PM
Versed (Midazolam) is a good choice.

I personally would not recommend Versed outside of hospital setting. This shit is beyond potent. My problem when I used it was how quickly it induced complete amnesia. With seconds of it hitting I was completely worthless. I barely remember taking the shit.

Versed can also cause respiratory depression by itself. Given the fact that most of (hopefully everyone) us here use opiates which (you guessed it) cause respiratory depression, Versed should be a last resort benzo.

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The most euphoric benzo in my experience is Valium. If I need to be very relaxed I like K-pins, and as a last resort xanax.

quest390
04-11-2007, 08:12 PM
i highly suggest the valium. drink about 4 beers. take a valium, and then drink another 4. you will feel like a million bucks. oh and you can fuck like a champ on valium, i swear they turn me into a porn star. ;)

Killa
04-11-2007, 08:27 PM
Xanax is my favorite, but too hard to get off of. I have had a siezure from Xanax withdrawal, and it is not pleasant. The next time I got myself addicted to them , I thought ahead and checked myself into an inpatient center. They helped me through it with some Ativans and Valiums, paired with Ambien at night. Took me a week, and when I got home, it took me over a month to not want to beat everyone who spoke in any other tone than a whisper.

Valium is alright, but is more old-school and un-refined. Makes me think of the '80's, and feels dirty compared to other benzos.

Did rohypnol once, and I screwed my co-worker and my boss's wife (yes, 2 different chicks).....I vaguely remember screwing them, and vaguely remember strutting around like a chicken with a hard-on, but I really remember my boss kicking me over and over. I would not suggest rohypnol.

Klonipin....a.k.a. clonazapam, feels in-between Xanax and Valium. Withdrawals are tolerable, and anxiety relief and buzz are pretty good, especially mixed with a couple beers. Next morning is good too. My wife fed me Klonipin's while I was using 1000mg/wk testosterone. Calmed me and kept me from ending up on the news!

I would have to recommend Klonipin for overall value. Favorite benzo buzz is Xanax, but too hard to get off of, even after a few days. And with Xanax, I feel the typical withdrawal edgyness after the first day, which leads me to taking more the next and so on....


So goes the life of the addict....huh?

soulman
04-11-2007, 08:42 PM
well my subutex dr. will give me a choice of benzo every month when i go get my refill, and i had used xanax,valium,and k-pins before (recreationally) so i knew how each felt so every month at the end of my appt. he says "so what do you feel like for the anxiety this month?", and then i get to say either 2mg xanax,10 mg valium, or 2mg k-pin!!! i just go with what i feel like that day and he scripts me 60-90 its up to me!!!:D The only thing i notice different between any of them is if i go out drinking and take 4-6 mgs. of xanax i usually end up blacking out at some point and usually waking up at a friends house or with some incredibly HOT chick! I guess it turns the pimp-hand extra strong and ill walk right up to the finest girl in the club and mack like im fuckin schooled by Wilt Chamberlain or sumthin!!!;) :D :p :)

mrklean
04-11-2007, 08:58 PM
OK I definately disagree with the statement that benzo's aren't very euphoric. However, if you have experienced this benzo euphoria it doesn't surprise me that you don't remember it.

It is a different kind of euphoria...they have their own special buzz. But if I have no tolerance and I eat me a handful of blueberries I will be pretty close to in fucking heaven. Thing is it seems to me you gotta eat twice as much as the last time to get the same or similar effect like with most psychedelics, except tolerance to benzo euphoria takes weeks or months to go down rather than 3 or 4 days for most psychedelics. Once you get to a certain point they lose the euphoric buzz regardless of how many of the things you eat. After that you just start being a complete idiot for extended periods of time and you do other shit till you get high and then you wake up in jail wondering how you got there and what day of the month or maybe year it is.

I have tried quite a few of the benzo's out there all for purely recreational purposes, or to come down (is that considered recreational usage?lol). I would have to say valium is probably the most fun. Valium hits fast and lasts a long time. You come up on valium nice and fast and that 15 min switch from sober to a fucking retard is usually quite pleasurable. Klonopin would be my second choice because it lasts a long time and keeps you pretty consistenly high and seems to make me less drowsy than Valium. The downside to Valium is that tolerance seems to take waay longer than anyother benzo to get back down. So after you have been abusing it for awhile you have to stop for atleast a month to really get any euphoria. I'm not sure about what someone posted as the halflife for valium earlier in the thread. Valium lasts for about 10hrs but, I'm pretty sure its halflife is way longer than that.

I myself know better than to screw with benzo's today. But, if I could have a stock pile of whatever benzo I wanted and could only pick one it just maybe Valium.

Does anyone know of any benzo that has an onset that is as fast as that of Valium when orally administered? I would love someting with the quick onset and a shorter halflife.

In all seriousness benzos played a major roll in a large number of very bad choices. I hope to god that I am able to avoid using them in the future. If I do use them in the future I pray that it doesn't lead to the same things it has in the past. In conclusion let me say BEWARE BENZOS = BAD DECISION MAKING SKILLS be careful

Seedy
04-11-2007, 10:17 PM
What do y'all think of halcian (sp) I have a few .125mg (upjohn 10's) sitting around waitnig to be abused. Just wondering if they are good with booze or will just knock me out.

OpiBli$$1988
04-11-2007, 10:25 PM
i hear halicon is pretty strong seedy. i think either way their gunna knock ur ass out lol.

and thanks for the advice every1. ive decided on going with the valiums and a couple ampoules. unlike most ppl here i seem to get that euphoric benzo feelin (i dont w/ opi8s its weird) so this should be fun ;]

Seedy
04-11-2007, 10:40 PM
^^ Cool. Enjoy, man. I just got a bunch of valiums too. Needless to say the last couple of days are a blur!

OCfenatiq
04-12-2007, 12:45 AM
....personally i dont see why anyone wants them cept for legit reasons....but maybe not having panic disorder the euphoria is possible...kinda like pain pills dont provide euphoria if there is indeed pain, but no pain, great euphoria....Although I do have a herniated disk in the lumbar section of my back causing pain obviously, I still get euphoria with a decent dose as well as nice pain relief...


....personally id stay away from them cept on rare occasion if you like them recreationaly....Mentioned this before, but good advice...They (Xanax) are rough when stopping, even when just taking to help sleep I get a headache near bedtime which always reminds me to take 'em...But I'd definitely take BDA's advice on this one...


i prefer valium too- especially with a beer or two:)
I have some friends who claim they pop a few valiums and can drink all night and never get so drunk they pass out and it'll actually help them to stay up (oddly) but they swear on it and love 'em...

doctor diesel
04-12-2007, 05:59 AM
I have NEVER experienced ANY euphoria from any benzos - even at serious knockout levels of ingestion.
I wonder why that is?

Doc

matfield
04-12-2007, 11:39 AM
^^^really? well valium and beer get me totally euphoric!

jollydeathtroller
04-12-2007, 11:46 AM
Hmm=/

I have found my LEAST euphoric benzo is Diazepam.

Killa
04-12-2007, 12:46 PM
I have NEVER experienced ANY euphoria from any benzos - even at serious knockout levels of ingestion.
I wonder why that is?

Doc


Drink some beer with your benzo's...you will experience the euphoria......

You know, it might also be that you have no problems with anxiety bro......To be honest, the best part of my benzo euphoria is the complete loss of anxiety. That is what I look forward to when taking them....the relief.

Sitar
04-12-2007, 01:55 PM
It looks like Valium wins by a landslide. Valium has always been my favorite benzo, since it feels just like all the others but with a strong muscle relaxant effect in addition.

matfield
04-12-2007, 02:35 PM
Hmm=/

I have found my LEAST euphoric benzo is Diazepam.


so what is yours?

Ragdoll
04-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Euphoria? From benzos?

Uh...that's not what I call "euphoria".

euphoria2002
04-12-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm with Ragdoll on this one.

Here's the problem. We're all trying to see which benzo is "the most euphoric", when we don't even have a working definition of what euphoria really is.

My guess is, a lot of people feel the CNS depressant effects, then the increased sense of relaxtion that comes with those effects........ and they figure "Hey, this must be euphoria!" Personally, I've tried 3 different kinds of benzos and none of them came close to generating anything that could be called euphoria.

What did do it for me? For starters, codiene (yeah I know) when I first started using opiates for recreational purposes. I done some codiene/demerol combos that were great! Same with oxycontin/codiene mixes. Even a good, potent batch of pod tea comes way closer to euphoria than anything I've felt on benzos.

Euphoria2002

Rhonda
04-12-2007, 06:18 PM
I've done valiums and they always feel nice and relaxing. But with tylenol 3's theres this extra feeling like your all relaxed and getting a big warm hug. Thats more like euphoria to me, if anyone asked me thats what I'd say. ;)

OCfenatiq
04-12-2007, 07:24 PM
I've done valiums and they always feel nice and relaxing. But with tylenol 3's theres this extra feeling like your all relaxed and getting a big warm hug. Thats more like euphoria to me, if anyone asked me thats what I'd say. ;)
Man I only wished I could even feel codeine...Never could, but I've been told certain people can't due to their missing something in their system(body). I forget what it is, someone here knows I'm sure...I've done extracts on the APAP and took 800mg(approx) codeine and nothing...

Seedy
04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
holy fuck, 800mgs! Nuts! 400 makes me itch like hell & want to puke.

OCfenatiq
04-12-2007, 07:50 PM
holy fuck, 800mgs! Nuts! 400 makes me itch like hell & want to puke.
Probably the Tylenol, do you extract it out??

Seedy
04-12-2007, 07:53 PM
No need, 13 30mg codeines, no tylenol. 390mg to be precise. Seriously, 800mg is a toxic dose. Codeine has a ceiling of about 400mg I think. Any more and you won't get higher.

OCfenatiq
04-12-2007, 08:04 PM
No need, 13 30mg codeines, no tylenol. 390mg to be precise. Seriously, 800mg is a toxic dose. Codeine has a ceiling of about 400mg I think. Any more and you won't get higher.
I can't feel anything anyway, but also this is estimated since some is lost in the apap extraction so it may have been 700, but according to if I got all the mgs it would have been 800mg...Never had any w/o apap...

OpiBli$$1988
04-12-2007, 08:43 PM
I'm with Ragdoll on this one.

Here's the problem. We're all trying to see which benzo is "the most euphoric", when we don't even have a working definition of what euphoria really is.

My guess is, a lot of people feel the CNS depressant effects, then the increased sense of relaxtion that comes with those effects........ and they figure "Hey, this must be euphoria!" Personally, I've tried 3 different kinds of benzos and none of them came close to generating anything that could be called euphoria.

What did do it for me? For starters, codiene (yeah I know) when I first started using opiates for recreational purposes. I done some codiene/demerol combos that were great! Same with oxycontin/codiene mixes. Even a good, potent batch of pod tea comes way closer to euphoria than anything I've felt on benzos.

Euphoria2002

i think there are a small minority of people out there that do in fact feel "euphoric" from benzos, im one of them. you know that happy as fuck feeling you get from alcohol (when u first started drinking) thats what it feels like for me. its like Killa says, when i drink w/ benzos i feel anxiety free which makes me very happy and messed up along with a feeling like i can do anything (kinda like the invincable feeling you get from coke). when im on benzos im totally care free..nothing can touch me..nothing can bother me..anything i want i can have or do. maybe it isnt "euphoria" im feeling..but i feel happyier and better than any opiate ive ever done. i enjoy opiates..very much so..but i feel way more euphoric (or wutever u want to call it..mayb happy) on them than opi's. fuck, their alcohol in a pill wuts not to like lol. im suprised so few ppl on here like them as much as i do (mayb its bc i rarley get messed up on them is why, im not sure).

OCfenatiq
04-12-2007, 09:29 PM
i think there are a small minority of people out there that do in fact feel "euphoric" from benzos, im one of them. you know that happy as fuck feeling you get from alcohol (when u first started drinking) thats what it feels like for me. its like Killa says, when i drink w/ benzos i feel anxiety free which makes me very happy and messed up along with a feeling like i can do anything (kinda like the invincable feeling you get from coke). when im on benzos im totally care free..nothing can touch me..nothing can bother me..anything i want i can have or do. maybe it isnt "euphoria" im feeling..but i feel happyier and better than any opiate ive ever done. i enjoy opiates..very much so..but i feel way more euphoric (or wutever u want to call it..mayb happy) on them than opi's. fuck, their alcohol in a pill wuts not to like lol. im suprised so few ppl on here like them as much as i do (mayb its bc i rarley get messed up on them is why, im not sure).
You need some better opies...Actually when I was on hydro several years ago litterally the 2nd or 3rd day was the best. Don't know why, maybe it built up in my system or something increasing the high. But for sure at first hydros didn't do much but kill the pain, it was over time when you realize WOW this stuff is great, then its too late. Get out the gate...(here I go rhyming again, just ignore)...BUT THEY KILL ANY BENZO ANY DAY, I would trade a bottle of xannies for a few OC 80s any day of the week, even today...

chinaski
04-12-2007, 09:48 PM
I think the best benzo you take is the FIRST one... Kinda like most drugs I guess... I remember taking a xanax for the first time and I felt like I was walking around on marshmallows... in the beginning valium was really nice because it was a long, sedating high. Wouldn't call it 'euphoric' though.
Benzos are definitely great for potentiating anything else... My old roomate used to call valium and wine a 'blue burgandy'... just a pleasant way to spend the evening, nothing too extreme. But be VERY careful mixing benzos with a high dose of opiates. The same roommate ended up in the ER from taking xanax and shooting tar. And at least one time I ended up in a cold bathtub with a rude awakening from the same mix.
Now I take benzos just to not be annoyed and irritated with life. Commute got you down? Pop a xanax. Boss giving you shit? Pop a xanax. Insomnia? You get the picture...
For me the ultimate use for benzos is for a hangover, opiate or otherwise. It's great for the 'next day' when you feel like dirt and either want to sleep it off or just not experience the pain of WDs as much.
The only thing I can say about rohypnol is that I took the real thing in the early 90s at a party and I know I had a GREAT time but I couldn't remember a moment of it. No wonder it's known as the date rape drug...

Seedy
04-12-2007, 09:48 PM
i think there are a small minority of people out there that do in fact feel "euphoric" from benzos, im one of them. you know that happy as fuck feeling you get from alcohol (when u first started drinking) thats what it feels like for me. its like Killa says, when i drink w/ benzos i feel anxiety free which makes me very happy and messed up along with a feeling like i can do anything (kinda like the invincable feeling you get from coke). when im on benzos im totally care free..nothing can touch me..nothing can bother me..anything i want i can have or do. maybe it isnt "euphoria" im feeling..but i feel happyier and better than any opiate ive ever done. i enjoy opiates..very much so..but i feel way more euphoric (or wutever u want to call it..mayb happy) on them than opi's. fuck, their alcohol in a pill wuts not to like lol. im suprised so few ppl on here like them as much as i do (mayb its bc i rarley get messed up on them is why, im not sure).

I know exactly what you're saying man. I'm usually the shy guy who doesn't talk much unless someone approaches me. I hate calling people on the phone, even friends. I find it pretty much impossible to make a move on girls, etc. Thats why I take drugs in egneral, to loosen up. Benzos are fucking great for that, especially mixed with booze, what a combo. The problem is the more you take them the less they work and before you know it you're dependent on something that doesn't actually do you any good but if you stop taking them you're fucked.

Best used occasionally for recreation.

Ragdoll
04-13-2007, 01:57 AM
For me, euphoria is connected with energy and excitement...a feeling of the potential to soar. Benzos cause relaxation and comfort. So I'd call the benzo feeling "feeling really good and mellow", but I wouldn't call it a "euphoric" feeling.

OCfenatiq
04-13-2007, 02:16 AM
euphoria
noun
euphorias
1. A feeling of wild happiness and well-being.
Thesaurus: ecstasy, elation, rapture, joy, high spirits, jubilation, intoxication, bliss, transport, joyousness, exaltation, buoyancy, cloud nine;

Antonym: depression. Derivative: euphoric
adj
Wildly happy
Thesaurus: happy, joyous, jubilant, cheerful, ecstatic, enthusiastic, high, intoxicated, elated, enraptured, exhilarated, exultant;

Antonym: depressed. ******************
Here you go...To most (myself included) benzos not that euphoric, maybe a little sedating or relaxing. However different things act differently to different people, and that being said if you enjoy "euphoria" from a benzo then stay away from opiates because you will fall in love within a few minutes and never look back...

Anyone seen any post from Green Fox earlier...Euphoria at its best...(and worst) hehehe...

Ragdoll
04-13-2007, 02:27 AM
Excellent, OC. Points to you.

OpiBli$$1988
04-13-2007, 02:29 AM
haha the one that tells about a shampoo bottle being stuck up his ass? yeh i saw it :( :D . and since no one belives you can get euphoria from a benzo lets pretend i named the thread "funnest benzo?" so we dont have anymore euphoria debates and replys on people not gettin euphoria from em..i think the threads about over anyways..but if yal still wana help i just learned i can also get some ativans, rivotril, nitrazempam and phenobarbital so if yal wana tell me ur favs im all ears ;]

OCfenatiq
04-13-2007, 02:40 AM
Excellent, OC. Points to you.
Hey, thanks for the big boost...:)

psychotiKK
04-13-2007, 06:37 AM
I've been prescribed xanax and klonopin... been on klonopin longer though. The only other benzo I have tried is valium and I have to say for recreation, it is my top choice. I like the muscle relaxing effects.. I like xanax if I want to sleep. Klonopin is alright for my anxiety and can get me a little buzzed... but it's strange for sleep. Last night I took 4mg of klonopin and couldn't sleep and then I had some daytime cough syrup with dxm and that put me out for awhile. I didn't even wake up once and that is extremely rare for me. If I had weed right now, I could sleep a lot easier. My klonnies and dank help me sleep. :)

colkraig
04-13-2007, 07:33 AM
what happend to quaaludes and mandrix o that was in the 70ys.

matfield
04-13-2007, 07:58 AM
For me, euphoria is connected with energy and excitement...a feeling of the potential to soar. Benzos cause relaxation and comfort. So I'd call the benzo feeling "feeling really good and mellow", but I wouldn't call it a "euphoric" feeling.

no-really! i got very euphoric when i started doing benzos and after that. But ONLY with some beers.
I mean i was doing a lot of x and partying some years ago and then i started do take diazepam with some beer and really-i often prefered it over x;instead i partied with valium and beer and i was totally energetic, and "raging" (can you say that?) well simply euphoric. Like this feeling in your stomach and stuff..i just can say for me valium and beer caused an intense euphoria. But unfortunately its not working like that anymore...Last week i took 10mg diazepam since a long long time also with beer but it had not these effects on me it used to be:(

mrklean
04-13-2007, 08:50 PM
As I already stated I get what I describe as euphoria from benzos if I drink alcohol on them I actually feel like it lessens the "euphoria" and makes me just sedated. You mentioned phenobarb, that shit is fun but I think it turned me into an actual physically and mentally retarded person for a long time after I stopped taking it. It lasts for an insanely long time. I really thought that I was totally sober but people were asking my girl who was her "special" friend LOL. Phenobarb really isn't suited for recreational usage.

emmajs
06-15-2007, 09:59 PM
what happend to quaaludes and mandrix o that was in the 70ys.

Quaaludes were the best thing going as far as euphoric drugs. Closest thing now is restoril, they are both hypnotic's. Feds took ludes off the market because they figure no one should feel that good.

Ale
06-16-2007, 06:11 AM
I'd say Flunitrazepam...what's the deal with Diazepam...I'll never know!!I've really never been able to feel anything off of it :(but that's just me of course..people actually seem to prefer it.I think we could put it this way..Diazepam compares to Flunitrazepam just like 'done compares to..say..Hydromorphone for istance..and I guess that no-one would rather have 'done instead of Hydromorphone and that's why I don't get it.
One thing is to say that people do prefer the feeling they get from Diazepam..a whole 'nother thing is to say that is the most euphoric benzodiazepinic high you can get!Even though you can't really refer to benzo's talkin about euphoric highs..the feeling you get off of Flunitrazepam's still 1000 times more intense and noticeable than the one from Diazepam..and that's a fact..isn't it?

ProdigalSon
06-16-2007, 07:51 AM
Just so you know..stopping any benzo after an extended period of use,,without a taper can not ony cause siezures but death as well.

Shes right. Ive been on Dilantin(Anti-Seizure) ever since my dumbass cold turkey kick. Ive had, umm 5 so far and have to take this Dilantin 3X daily, cant drink(hahahaha), cant drive:mad: and even after about a month still am having them. Taint no joke, I wish I believed everyone in the first place I wouldnt have took them. I was taking 2 mgs a day.

I think vals are. They really kick my ass the next day though. Ive only had Vals and Xanax. Xanax preferred

chemboy7
06-16-2007, 12:00 PM
Well, to be honest I didn't read this whole thread... didn't interest me enough I guess. But there is absolutely NO Benzodiazepine that is euphoric; if you think there is you either don't know the definition of "euphoric" or your just misguided. Hahaha, sounded like a dick there didn't I?

RangerXLT8
06-16-2007, 04:34 PM
Klonopin cutouts.

Ativan gives a good spaced out high...

psychotiKK
06-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I'm going to be ordering some benzos soon and I need help making a decision. I've only had experience with three as I said before; they are valium, xanax, and klonopin. The sedative hypnotics seem to be the most favored and recreational. I was thinking of either nitrazepam, tempazepam, midazolam, bromazepam, or lometazepam. I thought midazolam would be nice, but they are just the pills which are low in oral bioavailibility. Nitrazepam seems to be the best, but they are also the most expensive. People who have taken temazepam either love it or hate it. I've heard users say they have felt nothing after taking a certain amount and others say it knocked them out cold after one pill. The last two I know almost nothing about, but have read mostly positive comments about them.

What benzodiazepine do you personally prefer out of the ones I mentioned?

tui
06-17-2007, 02:13 AM
I find xanax and valium pretty similar. Never feel whacked at the time, but afterwards, looking back... those hours have just vanished, a black hole in my memory. Good if you're looking for oblivion. Euphoria, not so.

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Ale
06-17-2007, 01:43 PM
I'm going to be ordering some benzos soon and I need help making a decision. I've only had experience with three as I said before; they are valium, xanax, and klonopin. The sedative hypnotics seem to be the most favored and recreational. I was thinking of either nitrazepam, tempazepam, midazolam, bromazepam, or lometazepam. I thought midazolam would be nice, but they are just the pills which are low in oral bioavailibility. Nitrazepam seems to be the best, but they are also the most expensive. People who have taken temazepam either love it or hate it. I've heard users say they have felt nothing after taking a certain amount and others say it knocked them out cold after one pill. The last two I know almost nothing about, but have read mostly positive comments about them.

What benzodiazepine do you personally prefer out of the ones I mentioned?

Maybe you meant..LoRmetazepam..oh and btw..you really don't wanna mess with a shitty benzo such as Bromazepam it has really nothin to share with the others you mentioned(not a part of a sedative-hypnotic list)..as you said..the sedative/hypnotic kind of benzo's are the ones you may want for a recreational purpouse that's why you don't want Bromazepam which only acts as a very mild anti-anxiety agent I mean..REALLY mild..as for lormetazepam..it works quite well helping the insoniac factor but not much of a great deal..among the ones you mentioned..I'd surely go for Nitrazepam..it has a pretty good bioavailability it works great when snorted and I'm sure most people find its recreational value quite impressive some even say it works well for WD's..I wouldn't know about that though.
Oh..btw..never thought about Flunitrazepam?

Maggie38
06-17-2007, 08:59 PM
For me, Xanax is the most euphoric. Valium is the most calming. Heh, is there a difference in "euphoric" and "calming"?

psychotiKK
06-18-2007, 12:11 AM
Maybe you meant..LoRmetazepam..oh and btw..you really don't wanna mess with a shitty benzo such as Bromazepam it has really nothin to share with the others you mentioned(not a part of a sedative-hypnotic list)..as you said..the sedative/hypnotic kind of benzo's are the ones you may want for a recreational purpouse that's why you don't want Bromazepam which only acts as a very mild anti-anxiety agent I mean..REALLY mild..as for lormetazepam..it works quite well helping the insoniac factor but not much of a great deal..among the ones you mentioned..I'd surely go for Nitrazepam..it has a pretty good bioavailability it works great when snorted and I'm sure most people find its recreational value quite impressive some even say it works well for WD's..I wouldn't know about that though.
Oh..btw..never thought about Flunitrazepam?

Yes, I meant to say lormetazepam. I figured nitrazepam would be the best choice, but everyone has a different opinion on benzos. Flunitrazepam/Rohypnol isn't exactly easy to find and it's schedule I. I'm not going to drive to Mexico looking for roofies. If I had a hookup for them I would try them out.

tui: Xanax does a good job at fucking with my short term memory. Valium can be nice, but I have to take so many of them to get some kind of effect. My sister and I have both been prescribed xanax and never enjoyed it. I'm on Klonopin and I sell most of them to her. I used to buy the brand name cutout Roche Klonopin, but they are too expensive compared to the generics. I hate the 1mg yellow Purepac clonazepam. The 1mg Caraco and Teva generics are good.

Maggie38: It seems like most of the people that abuse pills in the United States love xanax and valium. There is a major difference between euphoric and sedating properties, but when you are talking about benzodiazepines there is not much of a difference if you don't find benzos euphoric (like you and myself).

Chemical_Boy
06-18-2007, 12:26 AM
Yes, I meant to say lormetazepam. I figured nitrazepam would be the best choice, but everyone has a different opinion on benzos. Flunitrazepam/Rohypnol isn't exactly easy to find and it's schedule I. I'm not going to drive to Mexico looking for roofies. If I had a hookup for them I would try them out.

tui: Xanax does a good job at fucking with my short term memory. Valium can be nice, but I have to take so many of them to get some kind of effect. My sister and I have both been prescribed xanax and never enjoyed it. I'm on Klonopin and I sell most of them to her. I used to buy the brand name cutout Roche Klonopin, but they are too expensive compared to the generics. I hate the 1mg yellow Purepac clonazepam. The 1mg Caraco and Teva generics are good.

Maggie38: It seems like most of the people that abuse pills in the United States love xanax and valium. There is a major difference between euphoric and sedating properties, but when you are talking about benzodiazepines there is not much of a difference if you don't find benzos euphoric (like you and myself).


Interesting. I would like to see some numbers on that kind of thing. I would imagine that Vicodin would be the number one, with benzos being somewhere in the 5-10 level.

This is just a guess, but it would be cool to see a study on such.

DarthPerineum
06-21-2007, 01:47 AM
I personally really enjoy taking Xanax. I used to have it prescribed to me but not any longer. I like valium is a close second. I don't take benzo's thats often but when i do i always try to get my hands on the big X! lol




-Gooch

pharmboy
06-21-2007, 03:13 AM
For me Valium is number one, even better if you mix it with something like Demerol
or Dilaudid.

No. 2 Xanax - But it gives me amneasia

No. 3 Klonipin - Good for sleep

No. 4 Ativan - hate it .. makes me feel all doom and gloom.

haven't tried Rohipnal.

My vote's for the Valium as a chasser.

BLOODY
08-14-2007, 02:55 PM
ROHYPNOL#1

CIIORNOTHING
08-14-2007, 03:00 PM
Havent tried Rohyp would say Versed IV is pretty awesome, just dont make any plans. Valium IV with hydromorph is a nice combo as someone above mentioned. I agree completely.

Inspektahdek
08-14-2007, 03:05 PM
Xanax> Kpin > Valium > Ativan

IMO from experience

xanax has a short duration or the shortest duration of all of these but it is the shortest acting, most euphoric of all I think

SurfRat
08-14-2007, 03:09 PM
I haven't tried Rohypnol, it has a really long half life and that usually doesn't bode well...
It seems like Rohypnol is harder to obtain, whereas Valium and Xanax are everywhere all the time so I might want to get it for that reason alone.
My favorite Benzo is HALCION.

ampoule
08-14-2007, 03:24 PM
does anyone know any genuine mail-order sites where you can get roofies from?
not the dodgy diazepam or such like as mensioned by Superjunky earlier but the real deal?
iv been trying 2get my hands on them 4 ages but 2no avail1

ampoule
08-14-2007, 03:31 PM
Xanax> Kpin > Valium > Ativan

IMO from experience

xanax has a short duration or the shortest duration of all of these but it is the shortest acting, most euphoric of all I think
im sure ativan is the same as xanax, its got me puzzled now
since you've mentioned them both.
can u put my mind at rest?

Hammilton
08-14-2007, 05:48 PM
ativan is absolutely not the same as Xanax. They're not remotely close, chemically at least.

ativan= lorazepam, xanax = alprazolam

Maggie38
08-15-2007, 12:04 AM
Xanax and Ambien are my favorites... Ativan, Klonopin, and Serax did nothing for me. Valium is good for relaxing. And I haven't really tried the others to make a comment. Well except for Dillies twice in the ER. Love those too.