How bad is my WD going to be and this was my taper

[Black_Pony]

So, here’s my history:

OC chipper for 1 year. OC addict 6 months.

Raging H habit for about a year (with dozens of days spent in the misery of WD trying to cop). Recently, my dope dealer gets busted. No more dope (I posted about this recently).

Since then, 3 weeks or so, I have been using oxy to maintain at between 5-10 OC 40’s daily (5 being o shit I better make these last and 10 being happy go lucky mood all day). OC man dries up last Friday (6 days).

Day 1: 160 mg oxy
Day 2: 100 mg oxy
Day 3: 120 mg hydrocodone
Day 4: 80 mg hydrocodone
Day 5: 60 mg hydrocodone
Today: 50 mg hydrocodone
Tomorrow: 20mg max (assuming I save it till tomorrow)
Following day: Nada (maybe one dose of Kratom. I have only one left)

So my parents are coming into town tomorrow. They want to pick me up and go visit relatives on Easter weekend.

My question is this: Am I going to be in full blown-fetal position W/Ds this weekend, or will be able to function at some level? It basically boils down to: how fast can you taper and retain any will to live?

[nick]

So, here’s my history:

OC chipper for 1 year. OC addict 6 months.

Raging H habit for about a year (with dozens of days spent in the misery of WD trying to cop). Recently, my dope dealer gets busted. No more dope (I posted about this recently).

Since then, 3 weeks or so, I have been using oxy to maintain at between 5-10 OC 40’s daily (5 being o shit I better make these last and 10 being happy go lucky mood all day). OC man dries up last Friday (6 days).

Day 1: 160 mg oxy
Day 2: 100 mg oxy
Day 3: 120 mg hydrocodone
Day 4: 80 mg hydrocodone
Day 5: 60 mg hydrocodone
Today: 50 mg hydrocodone
Tomorrow: 20mg max (assuming I save it till tomorrow)
Following day: Nada (maybe one dose of Kratom. I have only one left)

So my parents are coming into town tomorrow. They want to pick me up and go visit relatives on Easter weekend.

My question is this: Am I going to be in full blown-fetal position W/Ds this weekend, or will be able to function at some level? It basically boils down to: how fast can you taper and retain any will to live?

You never know till it happens bro,but I wish you much good luck.

[MissyAggravation]

i'm no medical professional, but just based on my personal experiences a taper at those levels would still leave me sick as hell for at least a week afterwards. so i would say that for myself at those levels, i would be probably the MOST sick on what would be easter sunday.

but that's just me and of course each of us will have varying opinions.

i was worried about this same predicament this coming holiday weekend myself. my family being catholic it's sorta a big deal and my hubby and i are bringing my mother to church easter morn and then doing easter dinner with my family. but things fell into place and we're gonna be fine. huge load off our backs.

so how do you feel right now? normalized/maintained to a degree or sick at all?

and yeah - best of luck to you.

[Euphoricgirl]

So, here’s my history:

OC chipper for 1 year. OC addict 6 months.

Raging H habit for about a year (with dozens of days spent in the misery of WD trying to cop). Recently, my dope dealer gets busted. No more dope (I posted about this recently).

Since then, 3 weeks or so, I have been using oxy to maintain at between 5-10 OC 40’s daily (5 being o shit I better make these last and 10 being happy go lucky mood all day). OC man dries up last Friday (6 days).

Day 1: 160 mg oxy
Day 2: 100 mg oxy
Day 3: 120 mg hydrocodone
Day 4: 80 mg hydrocodone
Day 5: 60 mg hydrocodone
Today: 50 mg hydrocodone
Tomorrow: 20mg max (assuming I save it till tomorrow)
Following day: Nada (maybe one dose of Kratom. I have only one left)

So my parents are coming into town tomorrow. They want to pick me up and go visit relatives on Easter weekend.

My question is this: Am I going to be in full blown-fetal position W/Ds this weekend, or will be able to function at some level? It basically boils down to: how fast can you taper and retain any will to live?


Goodluck Blackpony! That is not the best taper schedule I have seen. Could you have stretched it more? I would have spread the hydros out more definately, some for tommorrow and some for Sat. and kratom for easter. Jesus, I fell like I am going through this. LOL. Sorry. Fast tapers suck, almost like cold turkey. Goodluck. Let us know how it goes. Have the good ol loperomide very close, kratom and heating pad.. Hugs love

[Black_Pony]

i'm no medical professional, but just based on my personal experiences a taper at those levels would still leave me sick as hell for at least a week afterwards. so i would say that for myself at those levels, i would be probably the MOST sick on what would be easter sunday.

but that's just me and of course each of us will have varying opinions.

i was worried about this same predicament this coming holiday weekend myself. my family being catholic it's sorta a big deal and my hubby and i are bringing my mother to church easter morn and then doing easter dinner with my family. but things fell into place and we're gonna be fine. huge load off our backs.

so how do you feel right now? normalized/maintained to a degree or sick at all?

and yeah - best of luck to you.

Ya, I think you're right about Sunday being the worst! Great luck right? And ya, each day of my quick taper has been on the verge of dopesickness. Just barely enough to get me outta bed and to work. Get through work, come home and dose on benzos trying to save as much opies as possible for the next morning.

Goodluck Blackpony! That is not the best taper schedule I have seen. Could you have stretched it more? I would have spread the hydros out more definately, some for tommorrow and some for Sat. and kratom for easter. Jesus, I fell like I am going through this. LOL. Sorry. Fast tapers suck, almost like cold turkey. Goodluck. Let us know how it goes. Have the good ol loperomide very close, kratom and heating pad.. Hugs love

I know, thats a horrible schedule! Thats because it WASN'T my schedule. It was just the most I could get my hands on that day and it just so happened to decrease day to day. Fate has taken my two only consistant hook-ups. And since last friday, I've been on the hustle every single day and scraped up a few oxy's the first couple a days, and hydros since then. I really had to twist peoples arms too! Had like 5 people feel sorry for me and open up their medicine cabinets. But you know how it is, you usually have a plan B, but my plan B has run out. Dried up. Couldn't dose even if I wanted to (and I do).

I will definitely report back. Thats for the support. And the hugs!

I seriously hope this wont be another holiday that my parents get to see me kicking. They think I've been clean since Thanksgiving :rolleyes:

I just don't want to see my mom cry any more... At least she's an ex-addict so she understands to a certain degree.

[doctor diesel]

Get yourself down to the pharmacy and load up on loperamide, and you might just get away with it on Easter Sunday. Oh, and get the wine flowing into you to - it can only help!


Doc

[nick]

Get yourself down to the pharmacy and load up on loperamide, and you might just get away with it on Easter Sunday. Oh, and get the wine flowing into you to - it can only help!


Doc

Do not drink heavily while in physical wds,a drink or two is good,if you can keep it at 2.....I clearly can't.


Happy good friday doc,the christians are out in force trying to save souls-still I got free hot cross buns-then I told them that I was an atheist.

[doctor diesel]

Happy good Friday to you too, Nick!

[greenfox]

I hate to scare you but OC wd is the worst! I'vebeen thru full blown h wd more times than I could count, I'd trade probably three at LEAST two H wd's to ONE full-blown oc wd. Sorry im sure it doesn't help but that's my opinion.

[Woowoo]

I was once in a similar situation. I was weening off of smack and down to two bags per day. Six bags left = 3 days. The problem was on the 4th day (the first day of WD's) I had to be presentable. Well if I could just force myself to go through a day of WD early, then I'd have it again on the 4th day when I really needed it. But who among us has the willpower to go through WD's while staring right at two big beautiful bags of dope? Certainly not I.

So I figured out an incredible way to make sure I had the dope on the day I needed it and yet be completely unable to access my dope in the meantime....

I mailed it to myself.

[Black_Pony]

I mailed it to myself.

Whoa, thats smart, but risky!

And yes, i've got loperamide and tramadol and klonopin. All of which is helping me currently.

And I never get drunk during WD, being hung over and WD'ing is the worst!

Thanks for all the good words everyone and happy Good Friday back atcha. Could be ALOT happier on my end, but you win some you lose some...

:sad-smile

[Euphoricgirl]

Goodluck Love. I will be thinking about you this weekend. Hang in there.

[candy]

Whoa, thats smart, but risky!

And yes, i've got loperamide and tramadol and klonopin. All of which is helping me currently.

And I never get drunk during WD, being hung over and WD'ing is the worst!

Thanks for all the good words everyone and happy Good Friday back atcha. Could be ALOT happier on my end, but you win some you lose some...

:sad-smile

It is a fast taper and I myself have only done Methadone and heroin detox, but save the klonopins and tramadol for when things get real bad, unless you have those flowing and won't run out to fast.

I never could do any kind of taper, not to sound negative, but if you can, God bless ya! Keep around some Benadryl too, helps with nausea and it can be sedating as well(careful with the klonopins)
Maybe you could blow off the family thing and just say your sick, like in virus or bacterial sick.

My family not being either very religious or get along for more than 10 minutes at a time, I can always play the sick card(in fact when hoidays come along, we all seem to be sick, LOL!)

I would just try to get out of it and rest! But, then again for some, staying busy helps...maybe being around family would help you!

Good luck!

[kyuss]

I agree with Candy
I'd call in sick.
OC WDs are the worst
in my opinion.
Try to get some rest
and alot of good movies to watch.

[HeidiW]

The WORST withdrawals for me:

1) Methadone syrup

2) Methadone tablets

3) Oxycontin

[flipside]

How are you feeling today? I'll be thinking of you tommorrow. Any chance you can get that sick day?

[BloodIn]

Well it sounds like you have a frickin pharmacy in you house. You should be OK.
Kratom. and lop will help tremendoulsy.

I have to say, of all the things I've come off (opiate wise) H was the best. Its bad, but it's quick. I ALWAYS feel better somewhere during the third day, the four and fifth day I am alive again although I feel like i got hit by a truck. I have been strung on H for 10 years before with out ever missing a day, and came off a 1-2 bundle-a-day habit. Still 3-4 days no prob.

Here is something I have noticed that my help:

If you wait a day OR two (even better) Like the mailing it to yourself thing, and then do a little bit more (I mean a little, it can't be enough to "satisfy" but just to relieve) It's like when that wears off your body is now in the 3-4 day of w/d and you feel so much better SOON! It's like you can have only two days of w/d, and then jump straight to post w/d recovery.

Works for me everytime!!

But you HAVE to wait 2 days, and you have to only use enough to relieve and NO MORE the next day. If you do ANY the day after that, your habit is back albeit reduced...


peazzout

GOOD LUCK

[nick]

I hope you're ok man and let us know how it goes.

Sending positive energy your way.

[HeidiW]

Pony, best of luck to you. I'm sort of 'kicking' this weekend my ownself. Not that I want to, I kinda don't have a choice since I'm out of medicine. you hang in there.

[nick]

Pony, best of luck to you. I'm sort of 'kicking' this weekend my ownself. Not that I want to, I kinda don't have a choice since I'm out of medicine. you hang in there.

Time to open that safe.....one way or the other sis.

You know where I am if you need to talk or support.

[Black_Pony]

Ya, no shit Heidi. Open that safe for christs sake! Too bad you lost that key. I told you however I can get it open for you (us).

Well I pulled it off, I was pretty much a benzo'ed out zombie the whole time but my legs werent shaking and I drank and smoked so much bud that I slept a bit too (smoking bud is acceptable among my family, pretty funny one drug is ok but another isn't). I took so much immodium that I haven't been squirting very much. Cravings are bad. I'm watching Intervention on DVR and watching people shoot is making me super pissed.

I'm gonna go try and eat something small.

Heidi, I hope you get well! I feel like I'll never be well again...

Thanks for the positive energy, Nick.

BloodIn: I've never tried that before but its something I'd be willing to try.

Life sucks. Intervention on A&E sucks balls too. Peace.

[ProdigalSon]

How did it go?

[Black_Pony]

Hey Pill,

Like I said above, I pulled off easter even though I was a zombie. Now I have to face the bleak reality of possibly living a normal (boring) life. I need to decide if I should try and cop. Or count my bessings and continue to detox.

I just can't imagine life worth living without dope. Everyone's concern does cheer me up a little (and anything helps). Thanks.

[MissingOxy]

Just made it thru Easter myself. 2 HCs and a neurontin kept me from freaking in front of the family, but you can guess where my mind was the entire time.

[Chemical_Boy]

Hey Pill,

Like I said above, I pulled off easter even though I was a zombie. Now I have to face the bleak reality of possibly living a normal (boring) life. I need to decide if I should try and cop. Or count my bessings and continue to detox.

I just can't imagine life worth living without dope. Everyone's concern does cheer me up a little (and anything helps). Thanks.


Dude, if you made it this far, stick with it. Smoke some bud or something. After a while the cravings will go down and the bud makes for a wonderful past time if you ask me.

If you cop again, sooner or later you will repeat this experience and as you know it gets worse as time goes on.

Glad you made it through ok though!!

[Chipper]

Just made it thru Easter myself. 2 HCs and a neurontin kept me from freaking in front of the family, but you can guess where my mind was the entire time.

Hey, welcome to the forum!

[candy]

Methadone is one detox I would rather avoid!

Like Fucking torture to me!

[Woowoo]

you survived!!

I feel so sorry for not giving you the vote of confidence that you deserved. But I had to call 'em like I see 'em, I thought you were fucked for sure...

Well done! Now reward all your hard efforts, and go out and COP!!! :D

[nick]

you survived!!

I feel so sorry for not giving you the vote of confidence that you deserved. But I had to call 'em like I see 'em, I thought you were fucked for sure...

Well done! Now reward all your hard efforts, and go out and COP!!! :D



sometimes we suprise ourselves with what we can survive.



glad you're ok pony.

[Raz]

The WORST withdrawals for me:

1) Methadone syrup

2) Methadone tablets

3) Oxycontin
Hola,i've done the juice withdrawal,after a six week taper. Made a big mistake of drinkin too much brandy when Wd ing and wound up on another planet. It was the worse experience of my life, worse than bein shot. It got to the point i did'nt have any colour in my eyes, just big black pupils and my state of mind was hyper, hyperdrive. My wife wanted to lock me in the basement, she feared i would try and score in that state. And we were in a strange country, didn't know the lingo etc etc. She even hid my passport as she feared i would be on the next plane back to london...Needless to say i calmed down after a few days and then found the shit. But that juice Wd i would'nt wish on anyone...Raz