GLUACINE HCL?? Any experience?

[Hammilton]

After seeing a post from a new member today that claimed Glaucine Hcl is comparable to Codeine, I said: no fucking way, but then I went to search.

glaucine isn't what I thought it was, I t hought it was an eye drop stuff, but I guess not. I think it might literally burn a hole in your eye. I know the latex of the poppy it comes from is used to burn off warts. Maybe it is an eye drop thing though and I didn't see it?

Anyway, the stuff comes from some yellow poppy pretty closely related to our friend, P. Somniferum. It's also a Papaveraceae. Oh yeah, it's called Glaucum FLavum or something like that. P.g. f-something i think.

Anyway, Glaucine isn't a narcotic, but the poppy it comes from was used as a enjoyable beverage for a long time somewhere or something, and it's easy to get today still.

It does have excellent Antitussive properties, but no coughing isn't too enjoyable.

Also, in a "will monkeys inject Drug X" test, Glaucine wasn't self-sustaining. But then again, tilidine wasn't either. Caffeine was in some studies. Weird, huh? I think Benadryl was too.

let me hear from ya. I'm really interested in this stuff, and there's no Erowid info

[jacky]

its a moderately interesting compound.....
I have taken 50 milligram and 500 milligram doses......

at the higher dosage I had a crappy time sleeping, couldnt breathe well at all.

there does seem to be a small buzz associated with the lower doses 50-100 milligrams.
but nothing really interesting, and I was on standard opiates at the time.
I would compare it maybe to a mild alcohol feeling, or tryptophan/gaba supplementation.
glaucine seemed to intensify hypacognic imagery, and it might have some syngergy with cannabis as well, but then really...what doesnt?
I have a good amount of this stuff, and now realize that I would probably not use 10 grams in my lifetime as an antitussive.

as an inebriant on a scale of 1-10 I give it maybe a 2.

as an active herbal I would rate it an 8. meaning that its active properties as a medicinal are very good.

a chemist buddy of mine stated that it "hits like H" but then he didnt give me any more information, whether he meant that IV'ing the material hits great, or that it hits well when smoked I dont know.
I wouldnt suggest though that anyone buy this material to get off, I just dont think that there are really any exciting properties of the pure compound, maybe the herb has other compounds that have activity beyond that of glaucine. This chemist guy isnt a full time opiate user either, so maybe for the opiate clean individual this material might provide some interesting effect.

when I look at data that suggests a compound is similiar in potency as codeine as an anti-tussive, I might get excited....but later I find that even the kappa agonist menthol is similiar in potency to codeine, as is nigella sativa oil...both of those compounds are mild analgesics as well.
when testing the potency of a plants extracts, if you use codeine as the control compound, you might find similiar potency to codeine just cause of the visible physical effects that some poor lab animal undergoes when the animal is introduced to pain. the effect of euphoria or pleasant feelings is a long shot from just anti-tussive activity...isnt it....ohhh damn.

there is some info about the plant that contains glaucine in C Ratsch's encyclopedia of psychoactive plants....while I think this a great resource for the most part, this author has passed on mistakes or embellished descriptions before in his other books, to downright ludicrous suggestions of certian well known plants...but I am not knocking the guy, just warning people to not take all of the info in this encyclopedia to heart.

there is some company from canada selling some "pain tonic" that has kratom alkaloids, glaucine, and THP in it, the cost is too high, and I really think its rather risky for them to sell this stuff like its packaged as a clinical research material. its also sold in their addiction research section of the plant catalog.
what are we researching...how addicted you can get to THP, glaucine and kratom alkaloids? ha ha.
I respect the efforts of the company, and if they want to stick out their necks and try and implement clinical pain relief formulaes I dont see anything wrong with it, but usually when you experiment with your product on people like that you dont charge an arm and a leg, usually the research patient gets the stuff for free, even the large "evil" drug companies dont charge for an experimental process.
look what happened with the creator of Heantos....he is now risking prison maybe cause he isnt a doctor, and didnt use the right channels to become a clinical researcher. some people died under the care of the clinic that was letting him sell the heantos treatment, and now he got all his heantos confiscated.

I think that the company selling this blend of pain relieving kratom/glaucine elixir could easily get theirs confiscated if the material is sold the USA, customs intercepts it, thinking that there must be narcotics in it, and then the FDA hears wind and puts pressure on the ever too happy to convict Canadian feds to pull the plug on this ethnobotanical companies research project.

the blend might be interesting though, and a person could easily and somewhat cheaply create a combination of the same plants and pure compounds that are offered in the above mentioned elixir. I did take a mixture of kratom, glaucine, and thp recently, but the thp makes me so sleepy that I didnt find it something that I would want to take in the daytime.
I would combine kratom and ashwaghanda instead.