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Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 12:22 AM
Does anyone have any experience with using Phenergan (promethazine) to deal with the comedown from a health coke binge?
Has this worked for you? Or just been a waste of time and Phenergan?
Papa Verine
03-21-2007, 12:25 AM
Does anyone have any experience with using Phenergan (promethazine) to deal with the comedown from a health coke binge?
Has this worked for you? Or just been a waste of time and Phenergan?
Alcohol or bezos...nothing else is going to "really" work.
I wish I could send yousome valiums. You'd be feeling good in an hour or so.
chemboy7
03-21-2007, 12:58 AM
Dunno about the Phenergan but I do know that anything CNS depressant, the stronger the better, is the key to get out of that shit. I won't even do coke if I don't have some real drugs for the aftermath, who wants to feel like that?
Phenergan may work, who know's, try it. If not and you have no other options go to your local drug store and pick up some Doxylamine Succinate, DXM, and Diphenhydramine... that combo will kill the coke blues. So will booze but it metabolizes the Cocaine into a different drug that makes it harder to come down with and I'm not really a drinker.
Skript
03-21-2007, 01:01 AM
i like to get a good nod going to pass the comedown.. works for me
chemboy7
03-21-2007, 01:03 AM
i like to get a good nod going to pass the comedown.. works for me
Yeah, no crap buddy, so do all of us; I am sure if the clone had some Diluidid or Morphine he wouldn't have asked if Phenergan would be useful... just common sense.
I like to muscle a good amount of Ketamine before I slam the rest, as great as that sounds it doesn't have jack to do with whether Promethazine would combat a coke crash. My guess is it would be too weak, look over my OTC list or get plastered as a last resort... try it anyways though, curious how much of a difference it would make.
HeidiW
03-21-2007, 01:38 AM
If I'm trying to come down after a night of slammin' coke, this is what I do.
(I've got SEVERAL years experience at this, I can guarantee it works)
1) ya slam oc's/dilaudid/morphine/smack, ANY opiate you can get your hands on
2) if you have any weed, smoke a bowl/joint whatever
3) lay down in bed, turn off all lights, tv's
4) take any benzo's/sedative hypnotic's in your possession (use common sense, surely by now you know your own tolerance)
5) hope and pray for sleep, good luck, you'll need it:D
Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 03:32 AM
Alcohol or bezos...nothing else is going to "really" work.
I wish I could send yousome valiums. You'd be feeling good in an hour or so.
I hear you bro. I love Xanax for this purpose. . .it is about the only reason I like xanax these days, but it sure works a goddamn miracle for coke crash.
Yeah, no crap buddy, so do all of us; I am sure if the clone had some Diluidid or Morphine he wouldn't have asked if Phenergan would be useful... just common sense.
I like to muscle a good amount of Ketamine before I slam the rest, as great as that sounds it doesn't have jack to do with whether Promethazine would combat a coke crash. My guess is it would be too weak, look over my OTC list or get plastered as a last resort... try it anyways though, curious how much of a difference it would make.
Both the Doxylamine succinate and diphenhydramine are antihistamines, so if you find they help maybe that is saying good things about phenergen. I have a crazy tolerance to benadryl because I have taken it nearly every day for the past 11 years. A sudden, odd allergy out of nowhere that didn't respond to any other treatments prompted me to start this. The shit used to knock me out for 10 hours, now unfortunately I don't even bat an eye:(
The booze thing works. I used to take a half fifth of whiskey (beer never sounded good after coke sickness) in 30 minutes after cokin'. Worked very well in that amount/consumption time. Unfortunately I had to quit drinking since i am a fucking terminal alcoholic:cool:
I will let you know how the phenergen works. . .
If I'm trying to come down after a night of slammin' coke, this is what I do.
(I've got SEVERAL years experience at this, I can guarantee it works)
1) ya slam oc's/dilaudid/morphine/smack, ANY opiate you can get your hands on
2) if you have any weed, smoke a bowl/joint whatever
3) lay down in bed, turn off all lights, tv's
4) take any benzo's/sedative hypnotic's in your possession (use common sense, surely by now you know your own tolerance)
5) hope and pray for sleep, good luck, you'll need it:D
Those are some good suggestions miss!! I wish I could get a steady supply of the hypnotics for this!!!
OCfenatiq
03-21-2007, 03:38 AM
Phenergan may not make you feel any better, but it will knock you out if you take enough so double up on it and you should be out in a hour...
Babydollangel
03-21-2007, 05:24 AM
I have the prometh. (phenergan) suppositories---about 3 full boxes of'em in fridge right nowss, pills and the damn gel you rub on your wrists or belly ( i think that the gel must be mind over matter cuz im convinced it does NOT work..the gel that is, for anything, nausea, vomitting, sleep .whatever! just plain useless and majorly expensive without insurance, thank God i have insurance but wo it I sure as hell wouldnt have ANY expereince with the gel) butttt.....i ALWAYS double up or triple up on the prometh. when going through any wd's...that, xanax, benedryl, and immodium are lifesavers IMO....I think the phenerghan is mostly going to induce sleep, which is what I hope and pray for during full blown wds! I think the suppositories work best btw.
Good luck and let us know what happens!
Sitar
03-21-2007, 12:35 PM
Phenergan (Promethazine) is a tranquilizer in the same class of drugs as Thorazine. It would probably help the comedown of coke just fine. Take at least 75-100 mgs and it should work well.
SuperJunky
03-21-2007, 12:41 PM
I have a crazy tolerance to benadryl because I have taken it nearly every day for the past 11 years. A sudden, odd allergy out of nowhere that didn't respond to any other treatments prompted me to start this. The shit used to knock me out for 10 hours, now unfortunately I don't even bat an eye:(
Would you consider yourself addicted to benadryl? I figured I was for a while, I would take it all the time to potentiate dope and to help w/ WD. If I didn't take atleast 4-6 25mg pills a day I would start to get restless and weird sensations, a few benadryl and I felt better. Any one else?
EDIT: I had to miss it for a couple days before I really noticed, and as long as I was good and strung out I probably missed it far more than I may remember.
Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Would you consider yourself addicted to benadryl? I figured I was for a while, I would take it all the time to potentiate dope and to help w/ WD. If I didn't take atleast 4-6 25mg pills a day I would start to get restless and weird sensations, a few benadryl and I felt better. Any one else?
No I wouldn't really. Just consider that I have a tolerance to it- I can take 100mgs without any drowsiness, but I only take 1/2 a pill (12.5 mgs) on a daily basis. I miss it every once in a while with no ill effects. It just helps a bit with an allergy that I have.
I have never used it to potentiate any opies. Well, I have tried, just didn't find any noticeable effects.
I have never tripped off of benadryl- that just sounds like a very unpleasant experience. So I don't take anymore than 100mg ever, and I only do that if I am combining it with other OTC/home remedy sleep aids, because the 100mgs doesn't do anything for me by itself. I am not even sure if it contributes to the drowsiness of the home remedy shit, but when you are desperate to sleep, you do everything you can!!
Morefiend
03-21-2007, 01:59 PM
I took citalopram (ssri) for the first after a coke session and totally got rid of any crash and comedown
roxi*stardust
03-21-2007, 02:10 PM
Valium is the best thing other than some opiates. I found Roxicodone 30mg to be especially helpful. Seriously I don't think I would use Promethazine being that is is a cousin of Throazine. Thosae meds are known to do starbge things to you and I would be afraid to mix with coke. Alcohol and coke can go toxic on you, people die form the mixture. Best thing if you don't have a benzo or opiate, I would say benadryl.
scikid
03-21-2007, 02:48 PM
Booze, valiums and opiates always helped me. I also use Trazadone for sleep since I have a bunch of those. Damn I haven't touched yay for awhile. My comedowns have never been to bad though. I think it effects everyone differently as my amphetamine comedowns are always hell, yet I've heard others saw amp comedowns are a joke compared to c comedonw.s
OCfenatiq
03-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Phenergan (Promethazine) is a tranquilizer in the same class of drugs as Thorazine. It would probably help the comedown of coke just fine. Take at least 75-100 mgs and it should work well.
I'm not a pharmacist, but Phenergan is an anti-histamine, however because of its drowsy effects is given to induce sleep as well. And benadryl will work too, but should probably take a good bit to knock you out. Phenergan should be ok to mix since it is even mixed with Demeral and sold under the brand name 'Mepergan Fortis'...I have been given this several times at the doctor, I think the mixture (25mg Promethazine/50mg Meperidine) is there so the Demeral isn't abused and it works to some degree because if you take 3 or 4 of 'em it will knock you out hard...
http://www.medicinenet.com/promethazine/article.htm
Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 03:31 PM
I'm not a pharmacist, but Phenergan is an anti-histamine, however because of its drowsy effects is given to induce sleep as well. And benadryl will work too, but should probably take a good bit to knock you out. Phenergan should be ok to mix since it is even mixed with Demeral and sold under the brand name 'Mepergan Fortis'...I have been given this several times at the doctor, I think the mixture (25mg Promethazine/50mg Meperidine) is there so the Demeral isn't abused and it works to some degree because if you take 3 or 4 of 'em it will knock you out hard...
http://www.medicinenet.com/promethazine/article.htm
You are only somewhat correct. . .Yes phenergen is an antihistamine, but it is also a phenothiazine derivative which I think is where it's relation to some of the funky drugs that Roxy was talking about, like thorazine, so it definitely has some drug interaction possibilities that are a little more serious than your average benadryl type antihistamine.
Narcotics mix well with just about anything- like demerol and phenergen- as long as you watch for breathing or heartrate issues in a clinical setting. But it doesn't have all kinds of toxic reactions with much out there. Some of these other drugs have the potential for toxic interactions when mixed, even in small amounts.
I have had dem/phen combo for migraines before-usually 100mg dem and 50mg phen and it seems to work well. Problem is it doesn't knock me out, but then, not much does.
Thanks for the link though man.
chemboy7
03-21-2007, 03:48 PM
Shit, by now the coke crash should have ended on it's own right without the aid of any drugs... did you try the Prometh? Was it helpful? It's relationship with the Phenothiazines doesn't really concern me; I'd always have some Thorazine on hand in case of a bum trip and tried it with Cocaine a few times to knock myself out without any interactions, the problem is Thorazine is a hell of alot stronger than Phenergan.
Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 03:53 PM
Shit, by now the coke crash should have ended on it's own right without the aid of any drugs... did you try the Prometh? Was it helpful?
I haven't done any coke since I started this thread. It was more a hypothetical/ wishful thinking/planning my future type thread;)
I try to stay away from coke, but if (when) I do fall off the wagon, I need to have something to help me with the comedown. Otherwise that shit lasts for like 5 hours of tension and anxiety. Gets worse and worse every time I do the stuff almost exponentially.
OCfenatiq
03-21-2007, 04:32 PM
I haven't done any coke since I started this thread. It was more a hypothetical/ wishful thinking/planning my future type thread;)
I try to stay away from coke, but if (when) I do fall off the wagon, I need to have something to help me with the comedown. Otherwise that shit lasts for like 5 hours of tension and anxiety. Gets worse and worse every time I do the stuff almost exponentially.
As mentioned before if you are planning for future comedowns your best bet (in my opinion) is to get some xanies, they always do the trick...
Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 04:42 PM
As mentioned before if you are planning for future comedowns your best bet (in my opinion) is to get some xanies, they always do the trick...
Yeah, I gotta agree with you there.
I wish I had a reliable xanax contact. . .I know I could order them online, but that seems like you could have a gray area if got a UA which I could get any time (not that coke wouldn't, but hey, coke addiction is a bitch eh??). I get them from my doctor once in a while, but that is never a steady supply and I can't get them very often.
I know people seem to get a lot of benzos from their pain docs. . .I wish I new how that worked. My pain doc takes care of my pain, but the only other thing he gives me is muscle relaxers (and not even Soma, just Zanaflex and Flexeril:()
I don't know how I could get him to treat anxiety without him telling me to talk to my regular doc. Maybe further down the road I could approach this. I just don't want to be pushy and loose my good doctor's trust.
OCfenatiq
03-21-2007, 05:16 PM
Yeah, I gotta agree with you there.
I wish I had a reliable xanax contact. . .I know I could order them online, but that seems like you could have a gray area if got a UA which I could get any time (not that coke wouldn't, but hey, coke addiction is a bitch eh??). I get them from my doctor once in a while, but that is never a steady supply and I can't get them very often.
I know people seem to get a lot of benzos from their pain docs. . .I wish I new how that worked. My pain doc takes care of my pain, but the only other thing he gives me is muscle relaxers (and not even Soma, just Zanaflex and Flexeril:()
I don't know how I could get him to treat anxiety without him telling me to talk to my regular doc. Maybe further down the road I could approach this. I just don't want to be pushy and loose my good doctor's trust.
Yeah, sounds like you have a good doctor so I wouldn't be pushy just for some benzos. Hey but if he won't give you Soma and you like these they can be bought online or by phone legally in the US w/o a prescription, I will have to search but I know of several good companies and again this is completely legal...I have to head to work asap so I'll search for these later tonight if interested...
Chemical_Boy
03-21-2007, 05:59 PM
Yeah, sounds like you have a good doctor so I wouldn't be pushy just for some benzos. Hey but if he won't give you Soma and you like these they can be bought online or by phone legally in the US w/o a prescription, I will have to search but I know of several good companies and again this is completely legal...I have to head to work asap so I'll search for these later tonight if interested...
That's ok man, but thanks for the offer.
Benzos I would go out of my way for, but muscle relaxers don't do a whole lot for me. Some of them make be a tad drowsy, so those I use for sleep, but some don't do anything at all (i.e. flexeril) so I don't even really worry about those.
I had Somas before. They helped me sleep well, but other than that I wasn't really that taken. I never did try them with pain medicine though (they were prescribed to me instead of pain medicine:mad:) so I guess someday that would be worth a shot.
Oh well
Sitar
03-22-2007, 06:35 PM
Coke is such a bullshit drug. You get maybe 30 minutes of euphoric stimulation, then maybe another 30 minutes of slight stimulation, and then 4 hours of hellish crash. And you pay out the ass for that experience, too. Fuck that.
To me, the crash from coke feels just like really bad opiate withdrawal; same exact symptoms. Fortunately, I've only tried it a few times. I don't like it and I'll never do it again.
chemboy7
03-22-2007, 07:02 PM
That's ok man, but thanks for the offer.
Benzos I would go out of my way for, but muscle relaxers don't do a whole lot for me. Some of them make be a tad drowsy, so those I use for sleep, but some don't do anything at all (i.e. flexeril) so I don't even really worry about those.
I had Somas before. They helped me sleep well, but other than that I wasn't really that taken. I never did try them with pain medicine though (they were prescribed to me instead of pain medicine:mad:) so I guess someday that would be worth a shot.
Oh well
Soma is notorious for going together great with Opaites, work's real well (although tolerance builds quite fast). And OCfenatiq is right, I think California is the only state that has regulations on Carisoprodol at the moment... may even be wrong there, could swear I read that somewhere though. I actually know of a chemical supply house or two that will sell you the pure chemical in bulk for real cheap. It aint breakin' no laws and the places I speak of I know to not ask any questions what-so-ever (with chemicals of this nature anyways), just like ordering anything else online. Legit sources, not grey like RCs. You could even send a MO if your really paranoid, although that might be alittle suspicious. PM or hush if interested, I don't publicly list sources.
Chemical_Boy
03-23-2007, 09:50 AM
Well, I put this to the test.
I would say that the phenergen helps a bit with making sleep come sooner, but that is about it. Doesn't help with the anxiety or jonesing like xanax does.
I took it after I took 1200 mgs of fent suckers and it helped moderately, but it wasn't anything to write home about.
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