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halfalien_s4
03-16-2007, 01:07 AM
have any of you you tried this drug? i hear herion is nothing compared to it and unlike the uncomfortable physical withdrawl we all feel with regular opiates, this one can be deadly. guess i was just curious about this particular one. if only it werent banned....on the bright side opana and fentora are near in my fututre....yippie! :D so if you could have one or the other, would u get a script for the fenora or the opana? btw, im going to do some research on ketobemidone...when i finish i will lwt y'all know thw results! :) seenin' how ive always been into pharmacology! :rolleyes:
chemboy7
03-16-2007, 04:38 AM
have any of you you tried this drug? i hear herion is nothing compared to it and unlike the uncomfortable physical withdrawl we all feel with regular opiates, this one can be deadly. guess i was just curious about this particular one. if only it werent banned....on the bright side opana and fentora are near in my fututre....yippie! :D so if you could have one or the other, would u get a script for the fenora or the opana? btw, im going to do some research on ketobemidone...when i finish i will lwt y'all know thw results! :) seenin' how ive always been into pharmacology! :rolleyes:
If it were me I would rather have the Opana because I would assume that there would be a better rush (if using IV) and tends to have more euphoria than the fent. If Hydromorphone still ranks up there wth the best it all serve to reason that Oxymorphone is going to be that much better; not to meantion that it is longer lasting than fent. Fentanyl is a decent agonist but I think that Oxymorphone would be more enjoyable.
bindegal
03-16-2007, 06:03 AM
I fuck up trying to answer and made a new thread maybe someone with the Power would be so nice to expunge the thread http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=7114 ?
Then I will bring my answer here:
I have noted an interest for ketobemidone here, properly because is a bit exotic, I have use it frequently in periods of my life.
The product I use is Ketogan, every tab have 25 mg of dimethylaminodiphenylbuten and 5 mg of ketobemidone.
The dimethylaminodiphenylbuten have a relaxing effect on the on the “smooth muscles” ( don’t know the name in English ) and the ketobemidone is a strong opioid analgesic as strong as morphine per mg. Therefore, if you have tolerance for say 20mg of morf, you not OD with 20 mg of ketobemidone or 4 tabs.
The way is use on the street, is by crushing the tabs, mix them with water and then filter them as you will with all other tabs you prepare for IV use.
The rus is intense but you often get a bit of a strangling feeling in you throat (it has properly something to do with the relaxing effect on the muscles?)
When you get the “right dose” the high is NOT like other opiates, yes, you get all the usual effects, you head nods, you get stoned and you burn you fingers with you cigarettes – I just had that!! – and thing like that.
But there is some extras, you talk to people there is not there, you don’t know where to get of the bus because you truly don’t remember where you house is, and a lot of strange shit is going on. You can remember 100% that you just talk to friend and he was standing right beside you, the only problem is that you just remember that he is on a safari on the other side of the planet, and ……….
This goes on for some hours until you nod off and sleep.
I am a methadone user and a get around 50-100mg of methadone daily, when I am fucking around on Ketogan I use 5-10 tabs that must be something like 25-50mg of ketobemidone, I never use more than 10 tabs. I don’t think I know any one how use more than 10 because then you just nod off and go to sleep.
bindegal
03-16-2007, 07:56 AM
how do you delete a post or thread?
devilsdrug
03-16-2007, 08:40 AM
i did it dude
OxyContinuously
03-16-2007, 08:47 AM
ketobemidone is a piperadine type narcotic; extremely powerful. In structure, the next closes thing would be methadone, if you looked at their similar structures. Actually I think keto WAS discontinued cause it is that powerful. I have not heard of it anywhere except in anecdotal reports, and I am not eally sure what that would feel like. I am tempted to say it may be a really jacked up form of methadone's all day stupor type effects (in high doses)
later
OxyC
halfalien_s4
03-16-2007, 10:45 AM
sounds interesting, ebsept for the "talking to the friends that are not there" and such....i would love to try this one day but i would end up just swallowing a pill seeing how i dont do needles....
bindegal
04-01-2007, 06:17 PM
I know that this tread is a bit old, but I have been thinking :o about a way to make clear how different ketobemidone is to all other opiates I have tried. And after a bit of reading I found that ketobemidone has some NMDA-antagonist properties, the same as DXM and Ketamine.This can explain the weirdness that is so notably when using ketobemidone.
So try to imagine a drug hitting as morphine, but give you the weirdness of a dissociative!
SuperJunky
04-01-2007, 07:48 PM
I know that this tread is a bit old, but I have been thinking :o about a way to make clear how different ketobemidone is to all other opiates I have tried. And after a bit of reading I found that ketobemidone has some NMDA-antagonist properties, the same as DXM and Ketamine.This can explain the weirdness that is so notably when using ketobemidone.
So try to imagine a drug hitting as morphine, but give you the weirdness of a dissociative!
Now that makes me really want some, my two faves, opies and dissasociatives all in one.
jwalm
04-01-2007, 11:34 PM
isn't ketogan prescribed a shit load in scandinavia?
sounds interesting, ebsept for the "talking to the friends that are not there" and such....i would love to try this one day but i would end up just swallowing a pill seeing how i dont do needles....
Funny that you say that. I was younger, like 19, took these 2 pills someone gave me. I have no idea what they were. Very strange, I saw real hallucinations of people that were not there. It was very unsettling. Ruined my friday night because all I could do with myself is take my ass to bed. It is scary to talk to people or see people who are not really there. These weren't normal type hallucinations. They looked very real and convincing and I would only figure out they were hallucinations after the people disappeared. :drool:
I never want to experience that again.
1cc
HeidiW
04-02-2007, 01:40 AM
Sounds good to me, I want 100 of them.:D
jacky
04-02-2007, 03:21 AM
yeah, I am in with Heidi...something slightly toxic and delerious might be OK if its present with a heavy opiate/opioid intoxication.
nothing I would do at work.......unless it felt real good.
I remember doing sushi on codeine, dxm, kratom and having the perception of will removed...I was an automaton machine, cranking perfect sushi out and playing with the knife better than I had before, just watching, hoping that I hadnt overdone it finally and screwed the pooch.
the night went great, but I gained a perception of will in time to have to close the restaraunt by actually thinking about it. too bad it didnt last longer.
slight nmda antagonism can be nice.
stvip
04-02-2007, 06:06 PM
I remember doing sushi on codeine, dxm, kratom
Do you snort or IV the sushi? (snorting Wasabi should be an interesting experience)
jacky
04-02-2007, 06:32 PM
snort sushi no.....but tuck a bit of "fugu" under my toungue and it seems to potentiate opiates.
wasabi, well most of it is just regular horseradish powder, food coloring, and some mustard, and a LITTLE bit of real wasabi....that is what alot of sushi restaruants use.....
some places get real wasabi, some even fresh, but that is like 60$ for a 20 inch fatty bunch of wasabi. some wasabi is sold in tubes, generally that stuff is mostly real wasabi...
some places charge for real wasabi...I would rather pay for real, than eat the fake crap.
also, some forms of tobiko are just solvent boiled gelatin balls flavored with real fish oil and artificial flavorings and colorings, the fda hasnt really done much about getting this crappy false food product from not being sold in asian markets. its real easy to get the real eggs though in most nice sushi restaraunts.
I could do sushi till I am 75.........I would be happy with that job. right now I am not working at a sushi bar though, so I lament.
doing sushi, in the hot summer, in a cold restaraunt, on opiates, in a controlled steril kitchen setting, with hot miso and rice at hand.....ohhhhh. asthetically pleasing.
a nice hit of saki IN the miso is a traditional way to enjoy that booze....soaks into your teeth and throat and almost gives you that nice ether shot cough.
bindegal
04-04-2007, 07:55 PM
isn't ketogan prescribed a shit load in scandinavia?
Ketogan is the opioid of choice for Danish doctors, so is a relative easy drug to get you hand on street here, but in return we dont see many other opiate-based pharmaceuticals here, it is in this order on the street here: Methadone, Ketogan, Buprenorphine, morphine sulfates like Cotin and Contalgin and rarely morphine hcl. Never seen or heard about Oxycontin, Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone or Fentanyl on the street here, I know the are use in some form or another on hospitals from the lists of available medicine here in Denmark, but they a as good as never prescribed to the public so they don’t get out on the black marked.
From “INCB. Statistical information on narcotic drugs”:
“Global consumption of ketobemidone, which takes
place almost exclusively in Scandinavian countries (94 per
cent of the world total), continued to decrease in 2003, to
159.3 kg (corresponding to 3 million S-DDD). Denmark
remained the main consumer of ketobemidone, with 70.8 kg;
it was followed by Sweden (61.4 kg), Norway (18.9 kg), the
United Kingdom (5 kg), Germany (1.7 kg), Iceland (1.2 kg)
and Estonia (173 grams)”
As you can see 5 mill Danes use 70.8 kg of stuff and then 9 mill Swedes use 61.4 kg, so we use something like twice the amount as the second on the list.
bronyraur
04-04-2007, 08:18 PM
Now that makes me really want some, my two faves, opies and dissasociatives all in one.
sounds like a "one stop shopping" drug. also sounds like a lot of fun.
I'm going to Denmark...
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