Advice on Dilly needed!

[zen]

Aloha everyone!:)
My close relative has an opiate supplier, and today this supplier revealed his/her old and constantly replenishing stash of Dilaudid 4mg tablets. The lucky price? $4 per 4mg tablet!
( This supplier also sells my relative morph ER 100's for $10, and OC40 for $15, but thats besides the point.)

Well at $4 a pop, and no research, I said "ill just take two for now". So I paid my $8, crushed them up and snorted them. Well, it was a nice little high, but from the research I did on this website, snorting is not as fun as Banging.

I am familiar with banging, and turned to the needle a few months back. Since then I have banged 40mg oxycontin once a day, just a few times. Well I hear that the Dilly is much better to slam than OC. Heres my point...

My 4mg Dillies are orange with a 4 on one side and a fucked up looking "@" or "a" on the other. My internet research tells me that these are made by Abbott Pharm. Co. Here is a link to the website and a picture of the pill my relative has:

http://gsm.about.com/pictures/photo_us/042/dila004t.jpg

Well, my question is are these the right type of dilly to slam? Or is it some generic or ER or Unslamable form of Hydromorphine? I would really love to bang one of these after reading sooo many happy responses and good things about slammin the dilly...

All help is welcome and appreciated!

Bom Shiva,
Zen

[superman]

try it, it will either gel or it won't. if it does just take the resulting gelly orally

[Chemical_Boy]

... just take the resulting gelly orally

Regardless of context, this is always good advice.

[Woowoo]

I never encountered this variety, but I've never heard of a dilaudid that can't be shot, so my bet is that you're gonna looooooooove it. I agree with what everybody else says above... TRY IT !!! Good luck and tell us what happens.

If they shoot good (and believe me, you'll know what I mean by 'good') I advise you to sell your sister into slavery if necessary to re-up on those as big as you can. Just my advice, do as you will ;-)

[zen]

I appreciate the advice, but your suggtestion is pretty broad...
When I break down an OC40 I use about 90 units of water, and the shit still gells up to an extent...It dosent get like mollases, but it definately thickens up a bit in my spoon.. That is until I cook the stuff, and I usually cook it pretty good, probably more that I should! (like until its splatters, and I loose like 10 %). At that point my OC40 becomes like liquid...

If I slam these dillies, I will cook them, becuase I have watched sooo many dirty hands pass them around, and I aint about to inject that into my veins!
I also hear that the solution will stay orange?
When I crush these pills, they are orange the whole way through. The powder is completely orange.
There is no white at all... This is a normal dilly?
Also, a 4mg teeny tiny little pill powders up to a bigger amount than a rather large sized OC40 does!

Well here is what I am thinking to do:

1) crush my orange powder fine as hell, and then put in my special cooking spoon.
2) take the large amount of orange powder and add 90-100 units of water ( I only have 100 unit rigs)
3) Stir it up with a steril needle tip I don't plan to use.
4) wait about 5 minutes and see how thick it is... if it is ______thick, it is no good, and I should eat the solution.

How does this sound? I assume that the large amount of powder added to 90-100 units of water will have a "thickness" to it. But how thick is too thick???


I appreciate the help, thank you guys.

P.s. I snorted the two 4mg dilaudid's, one at a time. I waited two hours between each dose. The come-on was fast like oxy. I would compae it to railing an Oxy 20 up the nose.

[ProdigalSon]

Keep away from the pin man...Seriously

[zen]

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate the concern. Let's not get into the self-imposed ethical issues regarding the "pin" and instead try to focus our concern for my last fresh rig....
Which might as well go to my oxy because I can't find any reliable safety information on my particular Dilaiudid generic.

Well I just railed 8mg of the orange powder this morning, before taking breakfast. Needless to say my day is off to a very, very happy start. Yet I cant help to feel bad about one thing...That is wasting my pills because I cant find an answer....

Have a good day everyone, I hope someone out there has some specific, reliable information.

Aloha,
zen

p.s. I used the search function and read through many threads in this sub-forum. Still can't find anything.

[superman]

I also hear that the solution will stay orange?
When I crush these pills, they are orange the whole way through. The powder is completely orange.
There is no white at all... This is a normal dilly?
Also, a 4mg teeny tiny little pill powders up to a bigger amount than a rather large sized OC40 does!

these pills are not for shooting, so don't bother. the color is a definate sighn that you shouldn't shoot these unless you want to do harm to yourself!

I get green ones like this and a give them away. the time release ones that cook up great i keep for myself. usually a person is prescribed some time release ones, and some IR crap colored ones like this for breakthrough pain. You're buying the crap ones while somebody who knows more about this shit than you gets the good ones.

[Woowoo]

these pills are not for shooting, so don't bother. the color is a definate sighn that you shouldn't shoot these unless you want to do harm to yourself!
I'm a little confused. Obviously you've run into these pills so if you say they don't shoot good then I have to defer to your experience. But what does the color tell you? The grand-daddy of all shootin' pills is the Knoll K4 dilaudids, and those suckers were colored through-and-through, no white in them at all. They dissolved in cold water, no heat necessary, just shake & serve.

[HeidiW]

There will never be nothing like the Knoll Dilaudid's. You could pull the plunger out of your rig once you had the H20 in it, drop the pill in it, put plunger back in the barrel, shake until dissolved and whola! Breakfast is ready!!!:D:DYou just can't beat a set-up like that. Shit like that is just too fucking cool for words.

[Woowoo]

There will never be nothing like the Knoll Dilaudid's.
You're on my wavelength Heidi... if those pills weren't custom designed for needle use I don't know what is. Knoll knew which side their bread was buttered on. To bad that philosophy has gone out of style.

I still say, gimme some of these funky "@" dilaudids and I will find a way to inject them. I don't care what any of you say. There's too much WILL for there not be a WAY.

[HeidiW]

Hell ya, that's my motto. I've got nothing but time on my hands and an insatiable habit. If a pill can be broke down, I'll figure it out eventually. I alwayz have anyway, all except for one. That Opana shit. That garbage made me so fucking mad. I got ripped off good on that deal. I gave dude 50 'done for like 3 or 4 of them and ruined them trying to break 'em down. I ate the hard plastic mess that resulted in the spoon and I swear, I ruined any chance I had of them working right. I got dopesick like a motherfucker behind that deal. Ugh. :mad:

Another failed lesson in the school of hard knocks.:D

[roxi*stardust]

From what I understood Knoll was taken over or bought out by Abbott Pharmacueticals which is who makes this particular brand with the @ sign on them. If the Knoll's where colored, I don't see what the diffference is about these ones. I would crush them up and add warm water, see what happens. I don't see an IR tablet turning to gel. The reason certain OC's do is because of the time release matrix.

[Woowoo]

I would crush them up and add warm water, see what happens.
I would too, but Zen decided that his own greedy chemical habit takes precedent over educating the opie community as a whole! Selfish bastard!! We could have learned something but Zen uses the old "my last fresh rig" excuse to call off the entire experiment. Where's the gamble in him??

Bastard!

Zen I'm just ribbin with ya man, just a joke, no hard feelins. Gotta do what ya gotta do ;-) I did start thinking, who knows, maybe they are as good as K4's? If Abbott takes over they change the insignia stamp and keep the recipe the same, I would hope! Maybe one day I'll run into these and we'll find out. I got a lot of gamble in me!! I'm all in!!

[HeidiW]

Send me a nice 3ml, pre-mixed when you find those woo.:D

[zen]

Yeah Woowoo,
I know what you mean. In the past I have read many stories about injecting Dilly, and all experiences would speak of a yellow or orange pill. All would say the same thing: Just add water.

Well I went ahead and disenfected my used syringe (which I hate doing cause once a needle is used, it hurts much more to insert a second time).

I crushed up two 4mg pills, but took about 1/4 of the powder, at most. SO lets say 2mg went into the spoon. But not before I boiled some water and rinsed my spoon with it, along with my shot glass for holding hte steril water. I also cleand out the syringe really well with the hot, steril water.

Then I added about 80 units of water to the 2mg and nothing gelled. SO I added a little bit more powder, until I had about 3mg in the spoon. The dope-solution still didnt gel. It was still less thick thick than oxy gets with the same powder/water ratio.

I know I dont have to cook it, but I did because they have been handled too much, and its flu season. After cooking it, the yellow/orange liquid became a little more clear. It lost a lot of its color after being heated.

The liquid was as fluid was tap water, so I added a clean q-tip and filtered just to be safe.

In the end my rig held only 40units of water (do you guys have this problem too after cooking?)

As usual I missed about 10 times before pulling back and seeing red.

I slowly injected the solution, about 10 units, then waited about 30 seconds. Then I pushed a little more, and the whole shot took about 1 minute to clear the syringe. I was doing it slow to see if I had any adverse reations to the small amount.

Well,
Everything went smoothly, and I got a small buzz. I know it could be better, cause I already shot a oxy40 for breakfast, ate a 100mg morph ER, 1mg xanax, before hand....

So my conclusion is,
this pill is safe for injection!:D

Your welcome for me risking my life like a stupid asshole for the sake of your drug habbits!

[Woowoo]

In the end my rig held only 40units of water (do you guys have this problem too after cooking?)
It's not a problem it's just that you end up boiling off a little water, plus a little ends up in the cotton that you can never quite get out, etc. The remedy is to start with a little of extra water so that in the end you have exactly the amount of fluid you want. I prefer about 60-70 units in the end... but my hands are very large and I can do it that way without troubles. Most people prefer less units.
So my conclusion is, this pill is safe for injection!:D Your welcome for me risking my life like a stupid asshole for the sake of your drug habbits!
Thank you very much, sir! You know I would do the same for you ;-) Now if you get a chance try the same experiment with 8mg (or 12mg or even 16mg if you're tolerance is high) do it in one big blast when you're not high on anything else, and I promise that you'll be one shit-eatin-grinnin-droolin-on-yerself happy mofo!!

Woo

[zen]

Ive been slammen these for the last few days, and they rock. I got three more today. One is kinda dirty though, and the other two a little tarnished. I think I will have to scrape off the surface of the pills. Anyway, I did a shot of 6mg and it was beautiful! Im getting better at hitten the veins too, as the last two shots I hit it with one poke, instead of 10! Anyway, I think this is definately a better high than shooten oxy. The funny thing is, the high isnt instant, cause I never shot up this stuff sober...

All I noticed is that I feel really good after a hit, and then, five, maybe seven hours later, I realized that im fucking blazed and nodding out...

Yeah ill have to try the full 8mg shot when im sober, and after I drop my intake for a few days so my tollerence does to an "appreciative" level.

[Woowoo]

Ive been slammen these for the last few days, and they rock. ... I think this is definately a better high than shooten oxy.

FUCK YEAH!!! These are hella better than shootin' oxy, and that's saying something because IV oxy is nothin' to sneeze at. I did 12mg of dilly last night and it rocked my world so hard I'm still blown away from it. I wouldn't steer an opie brother wrong. Have fun & be safe

Woowoo

[PantyShot9]

I feel like dying just hearing about all that shit I'm so sick right now and don't know what to fucking do.

[zen]

Woowoo,
thats cool that 12mgs can fuck ya up really nice and happy:)
I wish my tollerance was that low... Infact 3 years ago, one percocet could make me nod.
As of today, I have been using daily 200mg morhphine, 2-4mg xanax, and one of the two: OC40 or 12mg Dilly. And its almost maintaining, because I get high, but its getting less special every day... Man I think I may have an addiction problem.... I need to cut back, for my drug use (Marijuana, opiates, benzos, alcohol) all cost me about $900-$1100 a month. :(
Luckily I have some weed thats in a perpetual harvest (long live overgrow) that takes care of most of that tab:rolleyes: ...So cash wise I spend only $300 a month and the rest I trade for weed... not tooo bad...
(but If I didnt use any drugs, I would save over $2000 a month, because I smoke $800 a month in weed that I grow)

Anyway I am doing an experiement for the first time!
Well I went out today and bought 10x 4mg Dillies (the same "e" or "@" ones listed in last page's link).

Tonight I did a shot of 10mg and felt a little buzz. Then I did 6mg more and felt alitte buzz. This shit makes your tollerance go up quick compared to other opies!


So I claened my rig-kit and filled my spoon with 24mg's dilly. I will slam this whole thing first thing in the morning and let you know how I feel! Yeaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!:D

[zen]

Om Nama shivaya!

Last night I pre-made a spoon full of 24mg dilaudid powder and 130 units of water. Thats 6x 4mg tablets.
I let it sit over night in a clean, plastic-wrapped up pyrex dish.

(Something strange happened while crushing the powder, for it seemed the color changed from realy yellow, to an off-white with yellow tint.)

Flame to the spoon, dropped in the rolled-into-a-ball up q-tip filter, and sucked up about 100units! There was soo little room to pull back once inserted into a vein...

Soon I hit my favorite vein: The crease of the arm fatty blue one.

The needle went in with one attempt, pushing blood into the rig before I pulled the plunder back... I Pulled back alittle, then carefully & super slowly pushed the liquid joy into my vein.

Everything went smoothly, and for the first time ever, I shot up right after getting out of bed. I didnt smoke any ganja before this experiement, so I hit the needle sober and fresh! Man what a rush!

I got close to the full pure effect of Dilaudud, and it was very, very nice.
In fact, I cannot recall a single day where an opiate for breakfast hit me so hard and beautifully. I love dillies! Too bad that they cost $40usd for ten 4mg tabs...:(

[Woowoo]

Well bro you got a big habit, at least compared to mine, so yeah you need an extra fat serving of dilly to get to the same place. But once you do that perfect big hit of hydromorph... well...


:hangloose Woooooo :hangloose Woooooo :hangloose

[bronyraur]

Since then I have banged 40mg oxycontin once a day, just a few times.

just a few times, eh?:D