Opana and other questions

[OpahPhile]

First day, second, of MANY posts..........As a TRUE opiophile, I am going to participate greatly in this

I got a script today for 70 Opana ER 20mg..........I Know you cant shoot them, they essentially have rubber and plastic in them, I know they are a new formulation of an old drug. I also get a script for 70 Brand Name Dilaudid 4mgs a month, which OFCOURSE I IV. Back to the opana.......I Know you can't shoot them, would you folks recomend plugging? I just crushed 7 and swallowed them(If i do oxy, I snort/swallow atleast 240mg at a time. CRAZY HIGH tollerance, but as a CP patient/drug addict/opiophile, it all adds up.

BTW, my dr is all about rotating my long acting painkiller, I was first on Oxycontin 40mg x3day, then kadian(morphine 24hr capsule) 100mg x1day, now Opana 20mgx2-3day.........I started IVing when i started diaudid, which was with the Kadian, never IVed oxycontin.....Which is the best of the 3 previously mentioned long acting that i mention to IV? I HAVE THE EASIEST WAY TO IV kadian if anyone is interested, let me know, but please let me know, what the best to IV is.

[OpiGuRu729]

First day, second, of MANY posts..........As a TRUE opiophile, I am going to participate greatly in this

I got a script today for 70 Opana ER 20mg..........I Know you cant shoot them, they essentially have rubber and plastic in them, I know they are a new formulation of an old drug. I also get a script for 70 Brand Name Dilaudid 4mgs a month, which OFCOURSE I IV. Back to the opana.......I Know you can't shoot them, would you folks recomend plugging? I just crushed 7 and swallowed them(If i do oxy, I snort/swallow atleast 240mg at a time. CRAZY HIGH tollerance, but as a CP patient/drug addict/opiophile, it all adds up.

BTW, my dr is all about rotating my long acting painkiller, I was first on Oxycontin 40mg x3day, then kadian(morphine 24hr capsule) 100mg x1day, now Opana 20mgx2-3day.........I started IVing when i started diaudid, which was with the Kadian, never IVed oxycontin.....Which is the best of the 3 previously mentioned long acting that i mention to IV? I HAVE THE EASIEST WAY TO IV kadian if anyone is interested, let me know, but please let me know, what the best to IV is.

ive ived oxy but i didnt find it as interesting as i thought it would be, I like to snort it more (I really like the taste of the drip from oxycontin) but dilluadid is fucking awesome to iv... or some really good dope... but i would think the dilluadid is best to iv... i would think that theres a way to iv the opana becuase oxymorphone is really potent when you shoot it... but i dont know the extraction process... but anyways have fun and be safe and sanitary....

[OpahPhile]

ive ived oxy but i didnt find it as interesting as i thought it would be, I like to snort it more (I really like the taste of the drip from oxycontin) but dilluadid is fucking awesome to iv... or some really good dope... but i would think the dilluadid is best to iv... i would think that theres a way to iv the opana becuase oxymorphone is really potent when you shoot it... but i dont know the extraction process... but anyways have fun and be safe and sanitary....

Thank you for the well wishes, I am over snorting for the most part, i find it last longer and is a little stronger if I take the oxy's crushed up on an empty stomach. Endo( the company that makes Opana) purposly made it so it is even hard to just crush up finely, the least bit of water turns it to gel, let alone snort, and impossible to shoot. As I said, they contain silicone or something like rubber and plastic.

I will only do what many before me have done, and try to be as safe as possible.

I don't think I'd even ever shoot oxy, as I've never heard anything too overwelmingly great about it. I'll stick to the dope and dilaudid, and kadian........which ill ask to go back to next month, seeing as i've taken 280mg (140 at 830pm and again at 930pm.......10pm I feel nothing...............Well, maybe because i've been shooting dope all day, i'll try it again when i wake up, on a clean bill of opiates.

[OpahPhile]

Thank you for the well wishes, I am over snorting for the most part, i find it last longer and is a little stronger if I take the oxy's crushed up on an empty stomach. Endo( the company that makes Opana) purposly made it so it is even hard to just crush up finely, the least bit of water turns it to gel, let alone snort, and impossible to shoot. As I said, they contain silicone or something like rubber and plastic.

I will only do what many before me have done, and try to be as safe as possible.

I don't think I'd even ever shoot oxy, as I've never heard anything too overwelmingly great about it. I'll stick to the dope and dilaudid, and kadian........which ill ask to go back to next month, seeing as i've taken 280mg (140 at 830pm and again at 930pm.......10pm I feel nothing...............Well, maybe because i've been shooting dope all day, i'll try it again when i wake up, on a clean bill of opiates.


did 6 more at 1030pm, right after eating a high fat meal, which i added oil to ontop of that(supposed to increase peak plasma..........) and it sedated me a bit.........Total recap in standard and military/international time

615pm 2015 Ate
830pm 2230 140mg crushed opana er oral
930pm 2130 140mg crushed opana er oral(total 240mg T+1hr
1020pm 2220 Ate
1030pm 2230 120mg crushed opana er oral(total 360mg t+2hr
1245am 0045 100mg crushed opaba er NASAL (total 360mg oral+100mg nasal=460mg TOTAL)
115am 0115 Nice, I like! bu not as strong as it could, but incase its like some other opiates where you can't just take 2 more to add to it an hour later, so i'll wait for the morning(well, when i wake up) to do the 7 total nasaly


So much for saying that i'm done snorting


I like it, this is how i'm going to describe it. Its almost like a strobe light of the rush you get from shooting dope, its there, its gone, 2 seconds on 2 second off but then again, i've been shooting dope all day(from 9 am- 6pm) i think i did way to much dope today, no, i knkow i did way to much dope today

[Boudica]

Yes, you CAN iv oxy's. SWIM sucks off the coating, dries them, then uses a pill crusher that you find on the racks of pharm-tools. Crusher NOT splitter. Then w/the crushed powder still in the bottom of the crusher, use to round, flat top of a syringe(just pull it out of the barrel to use for crushing and mixing), and finish crushing to a fine powder. works quite well. Then, he makes the next "tool" needed for this method: Take an old syringe, pull out the needle w/needlenose pliers. Dispose of needle properly. Draw up around 50 cc water per 40mgs oxy, swim uses 80cc water for 80mgs oxy, expunge into your spoon. Prepare a cotton filter, swim uses top of qtip, roll up tight and wet it. Now heat water just to bubbling, drop in oxy powder, stir w/ rubber end of plunger, the waxy stuff will detach from the liquid as you stir, and let it form a ring around the liquid in the spoon, thus is separated from oxy-filled water. Put your wet cotton in the middle of the puddle, use the needle-less syringe pressed on top of the cotton filter and quickly draw up to almost 100cc mark. Now, get your new clean rig, pull out plunger and squirt the oxy-water into it, carefull place plunger gently at the opening (swim lies back and holds it in position on his tummy while thumping the liquid down to bottom so it doesn't get squirted out when replacing the plunger), then gently push back in, moving liquid to top ready to iv. You will find yourself pleasently surprised. Save the particals left in the spoon, put btwn a folded up kleenex to dry and save to use again. There's still some good stuff left, not a ton, but enuff to make you glad you saved it when that rainy day comes along.:) Now, where's that info on iv kadian?

*This method will NOT work for shitty generic Tevas.

[Frozen]

First day, second, of MANY posts..........As a TRUE opiophile, I am going to participate greatly in this

I got a script today for 70 Opana ER 20mg..........I Know you cant shoot them, they essentially have rubber and plastic in them, I know they are a new formulation of an old drug. I also get a script for 70 Brand Name Dilaudid 4mgs a month, which OFCOURSE I IV. Back to the opana.......I Know you can't shoot them, would you folks recomend plugging? I just crushed 7 and swallowed them(If i do oxy, I snort/swallow atleast 240mg at a time. CRAZY HIGH tollerance, but as a CP patient/drug addict/opiophile, it all adds up.

BTW, my dr is all about rotating my long acting painkiller, I was first on Oxycontin 40mg x3day, then kadian(morphine 24hr capsule) 100mg x1day, now Opana 20mgx2-3day.........I started IVing when i started diaudid, which was with the Kadian, never IVed oxycontin.....Which is the best of the 3 previously mentioned long acting that i mention to IV? I HAVE THE EASIEST WAY TO IV kadian if anyone is interested, let me know, but please let me know, what the best to IV is.

Sorry, can't answer your question, but...

A) You have the world's coolest doctor. In today's prohibition plagued America, most chronic pain patients live in a state of under-medicated hell.

B) I've been saying the same thing here about "Crop rotation":

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=5944&page=2&highlight=crop+rotation

*RM's theory of crop rotation: You know how if a farmer rotates the
crops in his field, planting beans one year, corn the next year, and
potatoes the next, etc... he gets a better overall crop yield than if he
were to plant the same exact crop on that land, year after year? I strongly
suspect that opiates work in a similar manner. The only two 'serious'
opiates I currently have access to are oxy & bupe, and I feel compelled to
cycle between the two (but really wish I had access to some other good ones
to expand and complement the cycle). Crop rotation. It instinctively feels
better to cycle between opiates, rather than adhering to opiate monogamy.

C) I've also been saying the exact same thing as you about oxy (And have encountered a bit of resistance on that one) So I like how you think...:
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=6214&page=2&highlight=snorting

"Haven't you people noticed?:

Snorting oxy is wasting oxy!

Snorting is just such a horribly inefficient method of ingestion, you're wasting about 50% of the dope, when compared to normal (oral) ingestion! I'd like to see a single one of you come on to claim that you truly get more out of your oxys by snorting instead of swallowing them.

Crushing oxys to defeat the time release isn't illogical in and of itself, but snorting instead of swallowing the resulting powder would still be a waste. (I suppose rare exceptions to this rule may exist, such as for those with very weak stomachs who don't tolerate swallowed oxy very well.)"

[OpahPhile]

Yes, you CAN iv oxy's. SWIM sucks off the coating, dries them, then uses a pill crusher that you find on the racks of pharm-tools. Crusher NOT splitter. Then w/the crushed powder still in the bottom of the crusher, use to round, flat top of a syringe(just pull it out of the barrel to use for crushing and mixing), and finish crushing to a fine powder. works quite well. Then, he makes the next "tool" needed for this method: Take an old syringe, pull out the needle w/needlenose pliers. Dispose of needle properly. Draw up around 50 cc water per 40mgs oxy, swim uses 80cc water for 80mgs oxy, expunge into your spoon. Prepare a cotton filter, swim uses top of qtip, roll up tight and wet it. Now heat water just to bubbling, drop in oxy powder, stir w/ rubber end of plunger, the waxy stuff will detach from the liquid as you stir, and let it form a ring around the liquid in the spoon, thus is separated from oxy-filled water. Put your wet cotton in the middle of the puddle, use the needle-less syringe pressed on top of the cotton filter and quickly draw up to almost 100cc mark. Now, get your new clean rig, pull out plunger and squirt the oxy-water into it, carefull place plunger gently at the opening (swim lies back and holds it in position on his tummy while thumping the liquid down to bottom so it doesn't get squirted out when replacing the plunger), then gently push back in, moving liquid to top ready to iv. You will find yourself pleasently surprised. Save the particals left in the spoon, put btwn a folded up kleenex to dry and save to use again. There's still some good stuff left, not a ton, but enuff to make you glad you saved it when that rainy day comes along.:) Now, where's that info on iv kadian?

*This method will NOT work for shitty generic Tevas.

Oxy's as in oxycontin, or any sustained release oxycodone your talking about, thank you, but i'm sure there are plenty of threads on here about IVing oxyco*, but i was looking for a way to possibly IV Opana, oxymorphone, or oymo* if i'm going to go along with how i typed oxyco*(i'm not sure of the point of me saying that, but i just snorted the better part of 8 Opana ER 20mg


to update

615pm 2015 Ate
830pm 2230 140mg crushed opana er oral
930pm 2130 140mg crushed opana er oral(total 240mg T+1hr
1020pm 2220 Ate
1030pm 2230 120mg crushed opana er oral(total 360mg t+2hr
1245am 0045 100mg crushed opaba er NASAL ****(total 360mg oral+100mg nasal=460mg TOTAL)*****
115am 0115 Nice, I like! bu not as strong as it could, but incase its like some other opiates where you can't just take 2 more to add to it an hour later, so i'll wait for the morning(well, when i wake up) to do the 7 total nasaly

****245am 0245 As i go to crush 7 more to snort, i find i left one in the grinder, so i only did 4 prior, so deduct 20 from the later 2 figures..........so opposed to 100mg nasal&460mg total.........80mg nasal&440mg total


new total 360mg oral+ 240mg nasal= 600total

[OpahPhile]

Sorry, can't answer your question, but...

A) You have the world's coolest doctor. In today's prohibition plagued America, most chronic pain patients live in a state of under-medicated hell.

B) I've been saying the same thing here about "Crop rotation":

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=5944&page=2&highlight=crop+rotation

*RM's theory of crop rotation: You know how if a farmer rotates the
crops in his field, planting beans one year, corn the next year, and
potatoes the next, etc... he gets a better overall crop yield than if he
were to plant the same exact crop on that land, year after year? I strongly
suspect that opiates work in a similar manner. The only two 'serious'
opiates I currently have access to are oxy & bupe, and I feel compelled to
cycle between the two (but really wish I had access to some other good ones
to expand and complement the cycle). Crop rotation. It instinctively feels
better to cycle between opiates, rather than adhering to opiate monogamy.

C) I've also been saying the exact same thing as you about oxy (And have encountered a bit of resistance on that one) So I like how you think...:
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=6214&page=2&highlight=snorting

"Haven't you people noticed?:

Snorting oxy is wasting oxy!

Snorting is just such a horribly inefficient method of ingestion, you're wasting about 50% of the dope, when compared to normal (oral) ingestion! I'd like to see a single one of you come on to claim that you truly get more out of your oxys by snorting instead of swallowing them.

Crushing oxys to defeat the time release isn't illogical in and of itself, but snorting instead of swallowing the resulting powder would still be a waste. (I suppose rare exceptions to this rule may exist, such as for those with very weak stomachs who don't tolerate swallowed oxy very well.)"


I will respond to each letter topic in kind

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN I SAY HIGH, I ALSO MEAN TO SAY PAIN RELIEF/ANALGESIA

A. Yes, he is the worlds coolest dr, and quite possibly the best, so smart, so kind, so compassionate, loves what he does, loves being helpful, It pains him that i'm so young on such high doeses but he understands my pain and know i need it, and knows that i went to a dr prior to him that fucked me up and my pain.


C. Yes snorting is wasting, esp. if your like me and need an insane amount.....240mg to atleast feel something....your nose can only hold/absorb so much, and so much isn't 240mg

My general rule of thumb when it comes to ROA, the longer it takes to start working, the greater the duration of the high/pain relief*********This DOES NOT include injection************ and most of the time, the stronger high. From most effective to least(Anal, oral, nasal@@) Further more, the when it DOES come to injection, the same applies about duration, the longer it takes to start working the longer the duration of the high, but not the strongest as we all know. Injecting, from shortest duration of high to longest(IV, IM, SC##)

@@I'm not sure where trans dermal fits in there, as i'm not sure that is considered injesting, although, your taking it so maybe, but I think as my DR one explained to me, its similar to IV.

##I'm not sure where any spinal/epidural interthecal/cerebro spinal fits in here, but I think interthecal is very short as the interthecal pump delivers medication every hour

Personaly, i've only gotten suppositories a few times(a surgery when i was 16, when i took my grandmothers after she died when i was 16 also) so i'm not very experienced, and when i did take them i was able to be floating off of a tylenol 3(WOW) what percentage does do you need of typically something do you need when converting from oral? And how would you recomend doing it, my former roommate who was a former crackhead when i moved in, and became one again when I injured myself and stayed with my parents for a month used to tell me"I dont care if you shoot heroin up your ass with a turkey baster!..............""""" Is that the best way to do it? almost like an enema?

As for anyone who shoots dope that thinks that's gross and wants to say something, hold back, because really, we basicly do the same things to our viens, but with a much much finer tip..........Cleaner too!



I'm going to post this about ROA as a brand new post. so before you reply go here




http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=104188#post104188





As for the Kadian IV method
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=6958