Some professional expertise requested

[roxi*stardust]

Hey all, I did some reading through this forum and used the search engine, so please don't refer me to the search function as I have used it already. Anywho, a good friend of swim's was written an RX today for 60 2mg hydromorphone tablets (said they are blue). She has offered some to swim. From what I have read, IV is the best way to use these, however I have never injected anything and really don't want to go down that road. I have read the orally, these pills suck. So what is everyone's opinion of snorting these? How about anal adminstration (never tried this but would be willing to try if that is the nest method). I understand these are worth a good deal of money to those people who inject. What is the typical street price for these. She said she do them for $3 bucks a pop. Is it going to be worth the money to buy these if swim is not injecting. Thanks in advance.

[Papa Verine]

I've snorted them before and they're not bad. Somewhere between oral and IV. I'd pay $3 a piece for them.

[chemboy7]

Hmm, I dunno, at $3 a pill it's a good deal, yeah. It does seem like a waste that their never going to see your veins though. Hydromorphone is by far my favorite Opaite, but I always inject it. I have seen a few members on here talking about snorting them and getting a good effect, than again I've seen people trying to say they were good orally too, the few times I have tried insufflating Dilaudid it wasn't all that strong, but I definately felt Opaited. I suspect it's a matter of tolerance though, like if someone didn't have the D tolerance I had maybe they'd really get off on it. I dunno. I will say that I would go PR with them before I snorted them, even though I have never browned any Hydromorphone it's the obvious choice just on the fact that your going to have better/faster absorbsion.

[superman]

my expereince with hydromorphone is mainly with the time release capsules. these are good because the volume of material is very small, it is uncoloured, shoots and snorts really well.

my experience with the tablets is with two kinds, one kind (1mg) that were green all the way through, and when cooked the colour goes into the shot, thus making them unsafe to shoot, and they would colour your snot as well. IMO these are totally undesirable, and i wouldn't buy these except to take orally to fend off WD's [EDIT: on occasion i would stick one betwen my lower gum and lip to absorb sublingually]

the other kind of tablet was 4mg, and only the coating was coloured. once the coating was removed i was left with a quite large volume of powder to make a shot from, which worked fine. but the large volume of meterial, much of which would be talc makes me uneasy about shooting these regularily, and they'd be somewhat of a discomfort to snort, because for me i like to snort at least 8mg for a good buzz(whereas half that dose IV'd would be much better of a high).

so i guess if you're snorting, and have a low tolerance, and if these pills weren't coloured all the way through, they may be worth it to you. try them out for sure.

[roxi*stardust]

Thanks for all the replies and info. Someone got 4 for $10, update to follow.

[RoadHead]

wow great price roxi. you may have to get a few more for that price just so you can try out a few different roa. looking forward to your update.

i hope you enjoy them and they treat you well.

[RxQueen]

i'm new here, but i've got plentya experience with dilaudid..... IV is the best way to go with 'em fo sho (never waste dillies by eating them!) but as a girl with difficult (&sometimes mistreated) veins, if i can't find any spot decent for shooting (or if yer just not a shooter), i'd plug 'em..... it works just fine!

btw.... that IS a good price! i got the junkie-jealousy going on! :D

[CMonk]

What a steal!!

At that price, you don't really need to worry about bioavailability.

I've only shot D (hospital liquid) and it is VERY nice.

[Skript]

Hydromorphone wasnt anything i expected it to be when snorting.. If i ever bang any pills i think that would be it!

[geanine.aurora]

It's really a shame to waste them by not IVing them. Like others on this board, I would imagine plugging them would be next best option.

[betmylife]

I snorted 6 of the white generic 4s the other day and got really wasted, it was fun...I didnt nod off like on OXY but it was a good high, I was accually high after like 2 or 3 pills, but have a bit of a self control issue.

[SuperJunky]

For those that don't shoot snorting seems to work OK, but if I theoretically had some hydromorphone and my rig clogged up - or even if I didnt have a rig, I'd go the rectal way. I've never tried it but it seems the only way to go if I can't put it directly into my bloodstream. For all of those that have hydromorphone and take it orally I'm sure your gonna burn in hell some day.

[roxi*stardust]

Well here's my update! These are from my best friend (since 5th grade at least) that's why the good price. Someone gets her OC 40mg @ 12.50. Anyhow. Snorted the 2 tablets (hubby got the other 2) and got little bit out of it, not great. Next step: get 4 more today and try plugging. Would you dissolve the tablets in water and use an oral syringe? Seems strange to just stick the pill up your butt. Almost forgot, these little bitches were hard as hell to crush up, Ethex brand. Blue, 2 on one side, E on the other.

[SuperJunky]

Crush it up as fine as possible and dissolve in water. One thing I've wondered about is if the ph of the solution has any effect on its absorbtion. I remember reading in the entheogen review about using variouse san pedro and peruvianes (sp?) cacti as enemas and that different PH would give very different results as far as how much alkoloid is absorbed. Don't know if its the same for everything, as in the colon absorbs best at a certain ph or if it just has to do w/ the alkoloids in the cactus beeing tied up in the cactus snot etc. or a combination of the two. Any thoughts?

[noahzark]

I have eaten D's and had a good high. It took a lot to get there however and being on an stomach helped too. One time about 5 years ago and the last time I had no tolerance I got 25, 4's. I ate 3 4's or 12 MG and got jaw dragging noddin' and pin eyed all day. About 6 months ago I bought 100 of the generic Mallinchkrod 4's and did them all orally. I went through them pretty fast but I did really get buzzed. I mixed them with my 100 MG morphs too.

It does work but takes 3 or 4 times as much. IV is the best for D's but you can take them orally and it is fun.

Noahzark

[OpahPhile]

Well here's my update! These are from my best friend (since 5th grade at least) that's why the good price. Someone gets her OC 40mg @ 12.50. Anyhow. Snorted the 2 tablets (hubby got the other 2) and got little bit out of it, not great. Next step: get 4 more today and try plugging. Would you dissolve the tablets in water and use an oral syringe? Seems strange to just stick the pill up your butt. Almost forgot, these little bitches were hard as hell to crush up, Ethex brand. Blue, 2 on one side, E on the other.


First day, second post........


I got a script today for 70 Opana ER 20mg..........I Know you cant shoot them, they essentially have rubber and plastic in them, I know they are a new formulation of an old drug. I also get a script for 70 Brand Name Dilaudid 4mgs a month, which OFCOURSE I IV. Back to the opana.......I Know you can't shoot them, would you folks recomend plugging? I just crushed 7 and swallowed them(If i do oxy, I snort/swallow atleast 240mg at a time. CRAZY HIGH tollerance, but as a CP patient/drug addict/opiophile, it all adds up.

BTW, my dr is all about rotatingmy long acting painkiller, I was first on Oxycontin 40mg x3day, then kadian(morphine 24hr capsule) 100mg x1day, now Opana 20mgx2-3day.........I started IVing when i started diaudid, which was with the Kadian, never IVed oxycontin.....Which is the best of the 3 previously mentioned long acting that i mention to IV? I HAVE THE EASIEST WAY TO IV kadian if anyone is interested, let me know, but please let me know, what the best to IV is.

I'm going to post this elsewhere on this board for more help.

[cartone]

SWIM posted something a while back about receiving 100 1mg dillies and 100 6mg canadian palladone. he couldn't get any info on using them so he flushed em. he can get more but was wondering since they are hydromorphone, they are essentially dilaudid in a time release capsule. and the 1mg dillies are the ones that are completely green throughout. how can SWIM use both of these?
wuth the street price for the two?

thankyou

[RoadHead]

First day, second post........ BTW, my dr is all about rotatingmy long acting painkiller, I was first on Oxycontin 40mg x3day, then kadian(morphine 24hr capsule) 100mg x1day, now Opana 20mgx2-3day.........I started IVing when i started diaudid, which was with the Kadian, never IVed oxycontin.....Which is the best of the 3 previously mentioned long acting that i mention to IV? I HAVE THE EASIEST WAY TO IV kadian if anyone is interested, let me know, but please let me know, what the best to IV is.

with a dr that treats you this well, i hope that you realize how rare that is, and don't take undue advantage of his trust. sounds like you got your hands on the goose that laid the golden egg.

as for which is the best to iv, it depends on whether you are strictly looking for the rush more than any longterm pain relief. i haven't iv'd in ages so i will defer to someone who has fixed them to answer.

good luck and enjoy

[chemboy7]

with a dr that treats you this well, i hope that you realize how rare that is, and don't take undue advantage of his trust. sounds like you got your hands on the goose that laid the golden egg.

as for which is the best to iv, it depends on whether you are strictly looking for the rush more than any longterm pain relief. i haven't iv'd in ages so i will defer to someone who has fixed them to answer.

good luck and enjoy

IV shouldn't ever be considered for pain management because of how fast it wears off and how much faster tolerance develops. And I don't understand what you mean by "which is best to inject", if your talking about packing a better rush than your not going to get much better than the D, that is unless you can get those Opana into solution; I would stay away from the oxy IV though, as those contain talc.

[chemboy7]

SWIM posted something a while back about receiving 100 1mg dillies and 100 6mg canadian palladone. he couldn't get any info on using them so he flushed em. he can get more but was wondering since they are hydromorphone, they are essentially dilaudid in a time release capsule. and the 1mg dillies are the ones that are completely green throughout. how can SWIM use both of these?
wuth the street price for the two?

thankyou

Flushing 100 Dilaudid and 100 Palladone because no one here would tell you how to get them into solution? Surely your lying thinking that sympathy for your tragic "loss" will sprout the advise you need or something. Shit even if other ROAs were out of the question (which they are not, esspecially if you have that much stash) you would be able to sell them and make a killing. I just call bullshit on the whole matter; the only people that would flush all that is elderly people afraid to take them and police officers. Just my opinion. Certainly nobody that was physically addicted would have flushed them, whether they could get a rush off them or not.

[cartone]

FYI bro, SWIM is not an addict, he has done less than 30 blunts in his lifetime. yeah SWIM did flush em cuz SWIM dont wanna get addicted and hes terrified of cops. anywayz SWIM was thinkin bout sellin but he doesnt know how much he could sell for, he gets them DIRT cheap. wuts the street price? it sounds like bullshit to you but its true, SWIM's had them for over 4 months and has posted numerous times but no response. all SWIm wanna know is if the 6mg palladones are good or not? SWIM can get enough of those. i already know the green ones are worth shit all as someone had posted before.

[greenfox]

Hey all, I did some reading through this forum and used the search engine, so please don't refer me to the search function as I have used it already. Anywho, a good friend of swim's was written an RX today for 60 2mg hydromorphone tablets (said they are blue). She has offered some to swim. From what I have read, IV is the best way to use these, however I have never injected anything and really don't want to go down that road. I have read the orally, these pills suck. So what is everyone's opinion of snorting these? How about anal adminstration (never tried this but would be willing to try if that is the nest method). I understand these are worth a good deal of money to those people who inject. What is the typical street price for these. She said she do them for $3 bucks a pop. Is it going to be worth the money to buy these if swim is not injecting. Thanks in advance.

too much ACEPT>

[antigonemuse]

three dollars is a good price, even if it is two milligrams... this is a good thing in your case cause your wasting money snorting, plugging or popping.

[johnnyb420]

FYI bro, SWIM is not an addict, he has done less than 30 blunts in his lifetime. yeah SWIM did flush em cuz SWIM dont wanna get addicted and hes terrified of cops. anywayz SWIM was thinkin bout sellin but he doesnt know how much he could sell for, he gets them DIRT cheap. wuts the street price? it sounds like bullshit to you but its true, SWIM's had them for over 4 months and has posted numerous times but no response. all SWIm wanna know is if the 6mg palladones are good or not? SWIM can get enough of those. i already know the green ones are worth shit all as someone had posted before.



you are either full of shit or an idoit or most likely both.

i dont care how cheap you get them flushing them would be stupid.

why if you flushed them are you asking what to do with them??

or did you flush them and get more ???

of course the 6mg ones are good.

just depends how you use them same with the 1mg green ones they may not be good to IV but there are other ways. if you really had 100 of each you would be able to figure out a way to use them quit bullshitting us tell the truth and you may get the help you need;)

[cartone]

like i told u before they were flushed. but then i read somewhere that they are essentially dilaudid. i tought if everyone says the 4mg dillies are good why not the palladone. i read somewhere that its not good to shoot em cuz they have lots of garbage. once i realised i got a couple more to try crisping them like the post said but i just burnt them. so now i am debating on whether to get more or is it a lst cause. are the palladone just as desirable to users as dilaudid is?
for real bro im telling you theyre gone down the sewr drain, if you dont beleive me well thats ur problem but i had no intention of getting caught or gettin addicted to those things.

[chemboy7]

Cartone are you sure your name isn't MattyFatts?

[HeidiW]

Dilaudid is the Cadillac in my opinion.

For future reference, if ANY of you figure out to break down Opana, PM me STAT.

I had 4 of the 40mg ones, they were yellow, and I tried cooking them, breaking down with vinegar, you name it. They turned to a hard plastic ball. I recall getting so fucking mad, I threw the spoon across the room, fucking up the PS2 in the process. Not to mention, I traded around 30 Methadone for those 4, and really got dopesick a few days later when I was out of everything.

Another lesson in the school of hard-knocks . . . . . . .:rolleyes:

[cartone]

WTF is MattyFats? and no im not

[bronyraur]

i had no intention of getting caught or gettin addicted to those things.

dude, if you play with fire you're gonna get burned.

You're fucking nuts if you think you're gonna mess around with Dilaudid or Palladone or any fucking potent opiate agonist and not get addicted or at least feel some WDs from them.

This lifestyle is not for the faint of heart.

I also call bullshit on your story.

[cartone]

SWIM took a palladone capsule and emptied the little balls into a small container containing rubbing alcohol. he heated up the mixture just a bit and let it sit for about 20 minutes. he removed the alcohol and started to crush up the balls. SWIM noticed that the balls were softer and the powder became alot finer than it is when it is crushed dry. SWIM knows that rubbing alcohol does have ethanol in it, could that have released the hydro from the little balls. is it safe to insufflate this after the rubbing alcohol has dried? SWIM has a feeling that it is better to have it in the solution before crushing because the powder is much finer and softer.

[Chemical_Boy]

SWIM took a palladone capsule and emptied the little balls into a small container containing rubbing alcohol. he heated up the mixture just a bit and let it sit for about 20 minutes. he removed the alcohol and started to crush up the balls. SWIM noticed that the balls were softer and the powder became alot finer than it is when it is crushed dry. SWIM knows that rubbing alcohol does have ethanol in it, could that have released the hydro from the little balls. is it safe to insufflate this after the rubbing alcohol has dried? SWIM has a feeling that it is better to have it in the solution before crushing because the powder is much finer and softer.


No offense, dude, but if you know as little as you seem to about these palladones, you are going to hurt yourself if you try to play with them.


Why would you get pills and then flush them? Why not just toss 'em in your medicine cabinet or something?

I am confused. . .or maybe you're confused. . .somebody is definitely confused. . .

[HeidiW]

Goodluck MR. backyard bathtub chemist. You're gonna need it.;)

[superman]

CARTONE SAID: SWIM was thinkin bout sellin but he doesnt know how much he could sell for, he gets them DIRT cheap.

Not sure if i am the first to say it but;

YOU SOUND LIKE A COP

FUCK OFF!!!


edit:
SWIM took a palladone capsule and emptied the little balls into a small container containing rubbing alcohol. he heated up the mixture just a bit and let it sit for about 20 minutes.

Holy fuck buddy... are you just too lazy to read these fuckng forums before you go on polluting them with stupidity, or do you honestly think you're smart enough to figure out on your own how to shoot a pill?

edit2: Yes, I am an asshole. no need to comment

[cartone]

fuck u!
i get ur point.
im an asshole too, no need to tell me either.

[HeidiW]

cartone, whoever you are, all I have to say is this.

I don't know anyone who would intentionally flush ANY kind of dope UNLESS the cops were beating their door down with a search warrant, or, they'd done too big of a shot of cocaine or methamphetamine and were tweaked out, thinking the 'shadow people' were comin' to get them. People just don't do that sort of thing.

You're query sounds a little bit peculiar, to say in the very least. Hopefully you have enough common sense to see why some of us on here are speaking our minds with you, as your actions and some of your questions make very little/no sense. (at least to me, that is)

I'm not trying to piss you off or offend you. I just tell things the way they are, or the way I've seen them. I don't like anyone sugar-coating anything to me; therefore, that's how I treat everyone. If what I say offends, deal with it. Shit happens.:D

[cartone]

i totally understand where ur coming from but i am not the biggest user so i get kinda paranoid. i dont like to deal wit 5 0. theyre not nice to me and i have no intention of being nice to them. my pops always said dont do anything wrong, not because u'll go to jail but because the cops will give u a goo ol' beat down. especially if ur coloured. anywayz i totally understand ur point but try to understand my side, im no pusher and i dont like the stress of having a shit load a dillies in my closet.

[alissanurse]

Hey all, I did some reading through this forum and used the search engine, so please don't refer me to the search function as I have used it already. Anywho, a good friend of swim's was written an RX today for 60 2mg hydromorphone tablets (said they are blue). She has offered some to swim. From what I have read, IV is the best way to use these, however I have never injected anything and really don't want to go down that road. I have read the orally, these pills suck. So what is everyone's opinion of snorting these? How about anal adminstration (never tried this but would be willing to try if that is the nest method). I understand these are worth a good deal of money to those people who inject. What is the typical street price for these. She said she do them for $3 bucks a pop. Is it going to be worth the money to buy these if swim is not injecting. Thanks in advance.

2MG dilaudids here are pinkish, i say take 4 of them orally and u will feel it and be fine

also dilaudid can be taken SQ(subcutaneously) i myself would like to put in a sc lock and say fuck it to Iv unless u set up ur own iv site, caus resticking myself is just not fun, but im a nurse again, its easier,lol:D:)

[RxQueen]

2MG dilaudids here are pinkish, i say take 4 of them orally and u will feel it and be fine

also dilaudid can be taken SQ(subcutaneously) i myself would like to put in a sc lock and say fuck it to Iv unless u set up ur own iv site, caus resticking myself is just not fun, but im a nurse again, its easier,lol:D:)


this thread is 8 months old! we appreciate pros who answer questions like this, but the OP got the advice she needed long ago.

and shooting dilaudid sub-Q is NOT a good idea, when it's in pill form. the binding agents that do get into the shot (even with a micron filter) are a prime way to develop an abcess. and FWIW, most junkies are better at IV procedures than most of the nurses i've known! ;)

[alissanurse]

this thread is 8 months old! we appreciate pros who answer questions like this, but the OP got the advice she needed long ago.

and shooting dilaudid sub-Q is NOT a good idea, when it's in pill form. the binding agents that do get into the shot (even with a micron filter) are a prime way to develop an abcess. and FWIW, most junkies are better at IV procedures than most of the nurses i've known! ;)

im not talkin pill form im talking about the liquid ampules

[Duckfeet]

Aslissanurse: the poster you are replying to has been gone for a long time. I posted this yesterday: *Please* only respond to recent posts...Yesterday* is far enough back in time...again: up in LH corner it tells when they were posted.

im not talkin pill form im talking about the liquid ampules

[havok]

Snorting or eating dilaudids is a total waste in my opinion. It doesn't even come close to the high you get from IV. You should just sell them and buy OC if you want something to snort.

[Duckfeet]

Aslissanurse: the poster you are replying to has been gone for a long time. I posted this yesterday: *Please* only respond to recent posts...Yesterday* is far enough back in time...we don't want tired old posts from long-gone Opys resuscitated, ... again: up in LH corner it tells when they were posted.
I posted this *just* for you, yesterday, LOL...Please read:

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=12467

im not talkin pill form im talking about the liquid ampules


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