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noahzark
03-01-2007, 09:23 AM
I usually do mallie 100 MG morphs, about 500 to 600 mg a day taken orally. Yesterday a buddy gave me 30 oxy 40mg yellow pills for 300 bucks. He is a real buddy and we treat each other like bros. We don’t over charge each other.

Anyway, here is what happened. When he gave me them yesterday I chewed up 4 40’s right away and got a mild but nice buzz but not too heavy. I know I have a monster tollerence. That was about 1:00 pm. At about 4:00 I did one more. I went to bed at about 11:00 and had the worst night of sleep. I woke up multiple times and was really cold in bed. It is not very cold here in Chicago, it is about 40 degrees. I finally got out of bed at 8:00 and realized that it threw me into withdraws. I felt super shitty, was shivering and panicky. I did a couple of morphs and then sat on the couch for an hour doing nothing. Finally it kicked in and I felt up to showering. Then I had breakfast and started my day,

How could this happen? Isn’t oxy stronger then morph? Is this all in my mind or could this be possible?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Noahzark

Papa Verine
03-01-2007, 09:34 AM
Hey Noah, did you look up the pills he gave you to confirm they were Oxy? I know you said he was a good freind but someone could have misled him. There's a forum here for pill ID and a couple good links to sites. Maybe they're only 20mg each?

It might also be that they just wore off after a few hours. I know when I do Oxy it seems like when they wear off the high just vanishes abruptly. Like one minute I'm high and the next I'm not.

nick
03-01-2007, 09:36 AM
According to Karen's fine opiate conversion table,OC is at best twice the strength of M.So,even if you took 200mg of OC you're still short of what you normally take.Through in difference in drug action and that MIGHT be the explanation.

Take 250mg's of OC a day if you take 500mg's of M.


Check Karen's table out and let us know how you get on.

ProdigalSon
03-01-2007, 09:39 AM
Maybe because oxy and morph bind to different receptors and you were actually WDin from morph? Dunno, chalk it up to mind games

noahzark
03-01-2007, 10:02 AM
Hey Noah, did you look up the pills he gave you to confirm they were Oxy? I know you said he was a good freind but someone could have misled him. There's a forum here for pill ID and a couple good links to sites. Maybe they're only 20mg each?

It might also be that they just wore off after a few hours. I know when I do Oxy it seems like when they wear off the high just vanishes abruptly. Like one minute I'm high and the next I'm not.


Papa, I thought of that but I saw the bottle. It was direct for Walgreens. They were real and they were the yellow 40mg pills. I chew them up and that taste is something you dont forget.

noahzark
03-01-2007, 10:08 AM
I think that maybe Nick and Pillophile may be right. I may have been so used to my morphs that my body tripped out and on top of that I may have shorted my dose? Earlier today I really felt like a dead dog. Now I feel quite a bit better but I will say this. I hate that feeling of being so cold you cant get comfortable. It is the worst.

Letely I have been banging the brown Ethex 30 mg instant morhps. I have done it about 10 times. I started with one 30 mg and felt nothing. I did 2 and felt zero. I then did 3 at once and got minor pins and needles rush. I did that 3 more times and the same thing. That is my limit, I am scared to do 4 at once. 90 mg IV and only minor rush? That is strange to me, it should have knocked my socks off. I didnt miss btw, I have huge veins.

I am so glad to be here, I really felt alone in the world before I found this place.

Noahzark

nick
03-01-2007, 10:10 AM
I think that maybe Nick and Pillophile may be right. I may have been so used to my morphs that my body tripped out and on top of that I may have shorted my dose? Earlier today I really felt like a dead dog. Now I feel quite a bit better but I will say this. I hate that feeling of being so cold you cant get comfortable. It is the worst.

Letely I have been banging the brown Ethex 30 mg instant morhps. I have done it about 10 times. I started with one 30 mg and felt nothing. I did 2 and felt zero. I then did 3 at once and got minor pins and needles rush. I did that 3 more times and the same thing. That is my limit, I am scared to do 4 at once. 90 mg IV and only minor rush? That is strange to me, it should have knocked my socks off. I didnt miss btw, I have huge veins.

I am so glad to be here, I really felt alone in the world before I found this place.

Noahzark

you're not alone bro.

Papa Verine
03-01-2007, 10:28 AM
Shit, I'm cold and uncomfortable right now. Not too bad though...

Have you thought of doing a taper down to lower your tolerance Noah? Tough it out for a while to get your tolerance down?

noahzark
03-01-2007, 03:39 PM
Shit, I'm cold and uncomfortable right now. Not too bad though...

Have you thought of doing a taper down to lower your tolerance Noah? Tough it out for a while to get your tolerance down?

Yeah PV, I have thought about it. That's about all I have done was think about it. I am a wimp and I like my highs. I am not happy with life and want to be null and void. I relate to Lou Reed & Keith Richards in a big way. I have been doing my thing without missing a day for over 5 years now. Durning that time I have tapered down to about 100 - 200 mg's a day but then just used that to get slammed.

Durning the 70's and 80's I was a hard core IV speed ball user. I used to cop over near Humbolt Park and made a daily thing of it. I was in rehab 5 times, state prison once and I still never quit. One day I stopped cold but always craved the high. After getting vic's for a surgery I fell in love. I now never ever do coke. That is a weakness for me.

Sorry for the blah blah blah story.

Noahzark

Chemical_Boy
03-01-2007, 04:24 PM
Papa, I thought of that but I saw the bottle. It was direct for Walgreens. They were real and they were the yellow 40mg pills. I chew them up and that taste is something you dont forget.

Yes, that heavenly taste. . .

Maybe if you take your normal morph dose and add an oxy or two for that extra somethin'. . .

Course that tolerance might be getting a little high doing that.

noahzark
03-02-2007, 09:21 PM
Yes, that heavenly taste. . .

Maybe if you take your normal morph dose and add an oxy or two for that extra somethin'. . .

Course that tolerance might be getting a little high doing that.

I have been and I am buzzed! Today I did 240 mg of oxy and 300 mg of morph, I started out with a wake and bake with 3 oxy 40's. Then a morph here a morph there. Then after lunch at about 3:00, 3 more 40's. The mix is really great for someone like me wiht a huge tollerence, this is all oral mind you. I slam once in a while.

Woowoo
03-02-2007, 09:50 PM
Hate to break it to you bro, but the answer is very simple. Let me explain it through illustrations.

This is an 18-wheeler truck
http://www.wpclipart.com/transportation/trucks/18_wheeler.png

This is the Empire State Building
http://lattas.org/Empire%20State%20Building.jpg

This is a the state of Texas
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/texas_small.gif

And bigger than all that, is YOUR HABIT. Take care ;-)

Papa Verine
03-02-2007, 10:58 PM
Yeah Noah, We're close by each other. I'll take half of that habit off your hands...

colkraig
03-03-2007, 03:38 AM
I think i will just stick to my 160mg. of methadone and not worrie for awhile

colkraig
03-03-2007, 04:11 AM
I think i will stick to my 160mg of methadone...........

noahzark
03-03-2007, 08:24 AM
Everything you all say is true. I cannot lie.
One of these days I will back off but not today

nick
03-03-2007, 08:26 AM
Everything you all say is true. I cannot lie.
One of these days I will back off but not today

NEVER today-tomorrow always sounds better.

L0VE
03-03-2007, 08:27 AM
I usually do mallie 100 MG morphs, about 500 to 600 mg a day taken orally. Yesterday a buddy gave me 30 oxy 40mg yellow pills for 300 bucks. He is a real buddy and we treat each other like bros. We don’t over charge each other.

Anyway, here is what happened. When he gave me them yesterday I chewed up 4 40’s right away and got a mild but nice buzz but not too heavy. I know I have a monster tollerence. That was about 1:00 pm. At about 4:00 I did one more. I went to bed at about 11:00 and had the worst night of sleep. I woke up multiple times and was really cold in bed. It is not very cold here in Chicago, it is about 40 degrees. I finally got out of bed at 8:00 and realized that it threw me into withdraws. I felt super shitty, was shivering and panicky. I did a couple of morphs and then sat on the couch for an hour doing nothing. Finally it kicked in and I felt up to showering. Then I had breakfast and started my day,

How could this happen? Isn’t oxy stronger then morph? Is this all in my mind or could this be possible?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Noahzark

That happens to me when I sleep on them sometimes, but only when chewed (I sug. snorting them next time) but I would go to sleep, wake up and feel all sweaty and cold. But it's prob. because you slept the high off and ocs come out of your system pretty fast.

It could also be that the pills you were sold might have been damaged. I posted a thread on here about how my oc 80 DID NOT WORK, so maybe that's the problem.