Would this kill me?

[drugsaregood]

http://designer-drug.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/methkittynone.txt

:confused:

[george123]

That shit is even painful to read....

[AWOL]

I'd stick with these.

[HeidiW]

Are you kidding me?

Are you a chemist?
If not, you have your answer.
No offense, don't ask INSANE questions.
My god, wake up!!

[ProdigalSon]

Ummmmm rubbing alcohol blinds you...But depending on my mood, fuck,id do it. WHY NOT RIGHT
































N O T ! ! ! BIATCH

[Chemical_Boy]

My friend, if you have to ask, then the answer to your question is probably YES!!!


Let us know how it works out for you. This looks very similar to a lot of the old synth recipes that you could find at the Lycaeum, Hyperreal, and a bunch of those sites from the late 90's. I always thought they were interesting, but never trusted them enough to try. The various chromates that always show up in the cath synths that were posted are pretty fuckin toxic.

I wouldn't fuck with them unless I was a trained chemist with lab grade reagents. If something goes wrong you may not realize it unless you know what to look for

[drugsaregood]

So how does a n00b go about learning basic chemistry for informational purposes? Time to hit the books. ;]

[robojunkie]

It wouldn't kill me but it would probably kill you. Sorry, but true. Don't fuck with chrome(VI) salts. Very toxic. Besides I've heard cat sucks anyway, never did it but why would anyone make that over meth anyways?

[Chemical_Boy]

So how does a n00b go about learning basic chemistry for informational purposes? Time to hit the books. ;]

College man.

If you hit the books yourself, chances are you will only research stuff that seems pertinent to the reactions that you are going to try. This would not leave you with a well rounded knowledge and you will die:D

Take a couple years of college chemistry or something. Plus Robo is right, all accounts that I have heard say that cat is like a shitty version of meth.

[devilsdrug]

to the op , original ? only if ur lucky

[ChrisCuts]

That very recipe will still have decent (well over trace) amounts of carcinogens & toxins all up in it.

Just say no to bathtub meth/crank

That shit is dangerous and it might not kill you up front but it'll sure speed up the process.

Methcatinone is garbage anyway.

[jacky]

get some khat seeds and start growing....
do it in a small town somewhere and make sure the plants wont freeze, grow alot of them, like they are hedges....better homes and gardens used to suggest the same thing.
in a few years you will have alot of usable fresh material, in just 6-9 months you might start picking on some leaves......

short acting...does not induce as much anorexic effect....probably for the layman a much more enjoyable product than meth.

also read a few books on the subject....use the leaf to meditate and not obsess/run around town looking for gack to up the high.

and dont let the leaf dry, as the chemicals will convert to less potent material.

in certian areas I am sure khat growing might attract the wrong attention...but small towns out west might be somewhat safe.

[OxyContinuously]

I agree w/ jacky, also, methcathinone is not really all that pleasureable, it's a ketone, it smells, and is highly addictive.

little hint from s'one who *knows* potassium dichromate/ permanganate are not to be fucked w/ by kitchen kems, don't do it.


later


oxy

[Paregoric Kid]

a lot of people underestimate this drug. it's not the best stimulant ever or anything but it's pretty damn good considering how easy and cheap it is to make.
methcathinone is pathetically easy to synthesize. the synth you posted is not very good, use this one http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/methcatfaq.22.html, it uses KMnO4 as the reagent instead of toxic chromates. as long as you follow the steps you won't be left with any KMnO4, because you add isopropyl alcohol so any excess KMnO4 will be used up while it oxidizes that into acetone. you filter out the little particles that settle on the bottom and once you dry it you should be left with methcathinone hcl and perhaps a small amount of regular potassium. you have to adjust the pH anyways to convert the freebase into a salt, so it's not like the final product will be caustic.
you don't need to take college chemistry to make methcathinone, you don't even need high school chemistry, any idiot that can read and follow directions can make this stuff. it's easier to make than methamphetamine.
why would someone want to make mcat over methamphetamine? it's easier to make, in some places goes for about the same amount of money, all of the ingredients in the synth are widely and easily available, as long as some common sense and care is used in the handling of the KMnO4 and the HCl acid it is a lot safer than the chemicals used in some of the methods for making methamphetamine.

speaking about khat, someone in PA got busted last year with a shit load of khat plants and tried to use the defense that because the plant wasn't specfically scheduled in the state that he wasn't in violation of drug laws, but I don't think it worked since it contains cathinone and cathine which are controlled.

[nick]

Hell,I can buy Khat over the counter in Somali cafes in North London.What you want is FRESH khat.

[IceCold]

That synthesis is outdated. Especially the extraction of the pseudo-ephedrine. Also you want to use clean solvents not crap like coleman fuel. There are many much better Methcathinone synthesis instructions to be found on the web.

Khat is something different altogether. Khat contains two psychoactive chemicals cathinone and cathine the latter of which is weaker. Fresh khat is more potent because over time the cathinone in khat is converted to the less potent cathine. Khat is used alot in africa for religous purposes it makes it easy for its users to stay up for days praying.

[superman]

methcat won't kill you. just follow a decent recipe to a T. it's actually very euphoric, but otherwise not at all that interesting.

if you're paranoid about chromates, then use KMnO4 instead

[Paregoric Kid]

that synth I posted from the rhodium archives hosted at erowid is a tried and tested method that definitly works and does not use toxic chromates. follow the steps exactly though, don't skip shit or try and rush it. some pharmacies carry pseudoephedrine by roxane but you have to ask for it and sign, 3 grams for like $3 (100 30mg tablets [all you need for one batch following the rhodium recipe]). no washing is required since they don't have that stupid red shell like most brands. funny thing is they look just like the 5mg methadone tablets roxane makes and start out with the 54 over some other number too.

[nick]

That synthesis is outdated. Especially the extraction of the pseudo-ephedrine. Also you want to use clean solvents not crap like coleman fuel. There are many much better Methcathinone synthesis instructions to be found on the web.

Khat is something different altogether. Khat contains two psychoactive chemicals cathinone and cathine the latter of which is weaker. Fresh khat is more potent because over time the cathinone in khat is converted to the less potent cathine. Khat is used alot in africa for religous purposes it makes it easy for its users to stay up for days praying.


Use it for fun in north London.-no pretence at religous purpose.