Minimized Withdrawls with common antidepressant

[Papa Verine]

I started taking Cymbalta a month and a half ago. The two times I've gone on a heroin binge in this past month and a half, I haven't felt even the slightest withdrawls. I usually feel them even after doing dope for two days. Not strong but noticeable and irritating. Anyway, since taking Cymbalta I'm not getting minor withdrawls like I used to without it. Anyone else notice this??? Anyone else take this shit???

[nick]

I think Zed mentioned a very similar experience-I thought it was just Satan protecting him,but maybe you guys are on to something.

[repeek]

I hope others will chime in on this one, if they in fact help someone get through W/D it is worth investigation.

I want to hear more, thanks for sharing.

[Papa Verine]

It makes sense to me that it would help with the depression associated with W/D but it's the other things that just aren't happening. No weakness, cold, muscle aches, cravings... I mean I'm not feeling the W/D's as I should be. I used to feel slight W/D's after just a couple days of doing H or other strong opiates. These last 2 times I was expecting the usual when the dope ran out but it just isn't happening. I should be feeling minor W/D right now but I just shoveled snow for 2 hours outside. I'm not cold or weak. Feel OK...

I highly doubt it would be as effective for someone with a serious habit but anything to help right?

[blenderqueen]

Just a FYI I was on this med *cymbalta* for only a few months at 60mgs a day for nerve pain & it made my BP go very very high. like stroke levels high. not trying to scare you just letting you know you may want to monitor your blood pressure while on this med as it can be a side effect to experience increased BP! Now dont be dumb like me & just stop taking it cold turkey as the withdrawals from that stuff are HELL!!!!! So if you ever do decide to go off of it be sure to do a taper preferably with your Dr. overseeing it. After day 3 when I realized what the hell was going on with my by looking it up & finding other ppl reporting the same symptoms (awful headaches & dizziness are just one) I don't want to overwhelm you with the details but
if you find you are ready to stop this med or need to stop this med just a heads up a BIG HEADS UP , TAPER DO NOT STOP CT!!! I Feel strongly about this b/c too many Dr's do not tell their patients that this med does have major w/d's if you just stop. Hell mine didnt' even know but I was one of the earlier cymbalta ppl when it was first released so hopefully they are better informed now but just wanted to let you know !

I don't remember any effects it had with my pain meds but I dont' think I ever stopped them either so that is moot. I just want ppl to be careful with this as coming off of it (IMHO ) was worse than being dopesick so if you are going to use it to help with w/d's dont use it for long or you will have to deal with coming off of it then. Didn't mean to be a downer but would rather everyone who is thinking of or using this med know!

Glad it helps you, just keep an eye on the BP & if it really helps even if your BP goes up apparantly now they will sometimes give you beta blockers with it so you can stay on it.

xo
BQ

[repeek]

How did you take the daily 60mg dose of Cymbalta (once, twice or whatever).

[blenderqueen]

How did you take the daily 60mg dose of Cymbalta (once, twice or whatever).


once in a 60mg capsule. Started at 30mgs but went up to 60 pretty quickly from what I remember. This was almost 2 years ago. In the AM if I recall correctly. HTH's.

Anyhow it does come in 30mg & 60mg capsules. I am not sure if it comes any higher than that.

have a good one
BQ

[Papa Verine]

once in a 60mg capsule. Started at 30mgs but went up to 60 pretty quickly from what I remember. This was almost 2 years ago. In the AM if I recall correctly. HTH's.

Anyhow it does come in 30mg & 60mg capsules. I am not sure if it comes any higher than that.

have a good one

BQ

Fuck what this bitch says. I'm telling everybody from an experienced opiate addict what has happened to me recently. This stupid bitch is talking about blood pressure???? Fuck you, who gives a fuck????

I take 60mg a day and W/D from opiates are much more manageable. Also, there's an over-all feeling of well-being. (Isn't this what it's supposed to do??)

I see NO reason for other opiate users to get on it. You'll see... Beleive me!

[doctor diesel]

Fuck what this bitch says. I'm telling everybody from an experienced opiate addict what has happened to me recently. This stupid bitch is talking about blood pressure???? Fuck you, who gives a fuck????

I take 60mg a day and W/D from opiates are much more manageable. Also, there's an over-all feeling of well-being. (Isn't this what it's supposed to do??)

I see NO reason for other opiate users to get on it. You'll see... Beleive me!


Well...err.. I just thought she was being wise and helpful???!

[blenderqueen]

Anyone else take this shit???


Good greif! what the fuck got your panties in a wad b/c I shared for others to know it can fucking KILL you if your BP goes too high! (Not to mention others have committed suicide coming off this med & while using it) Not all experienced opiate users want to drop over dead in the spirit of helping withdrawal. plus since you are on it, I thought you might like to be warned but hey if your BP is of no concern to you good, however others may just give a fuck. It's not a med to be fucked around with if you don't know what you are doing. Bear in mind your BP is already likely to be elevated due to serious W/d's so may not be a good mix I dunno. Glad it helps you but others deserve to make an educated choice. anyhow was simply answering your question.

have a good day
BQ

[OxyContinuously]

Hey Papa: Good for you, brother. Not having WD is a fucking godsend! I heard some peeps say the anti's are good for that, good to see it actually does work.
Ignore that blood pressure nonsense, if you take it like the bottle says, you'll be fine.

take it easy PapaV!!! ;-)


Oxy

[Papa Verine]

Man! What was my problem??? I guess the mention of high blood pressure evokes the demons in me. Sorry about that hun... I was wasted, drunk... I know, still no excuse to go off on someone for NO REASON. I'm an asshole to begin with, give me 2 40's of Steel Reserve and I'm a BIG asshole.

High Blood Pressure huh? OK, everybody be warned. If you're going to try my Cymbalta for W/D idea, monitor your blood pressure. There. That's better right?

[blenderqueen]

actually the reason I even mentioned the BP was just a side note & why I ended up stopping it cold turkey & wanted to warn YOU & any others taking it currently or considering taking it that W/Ds from it are HELL I mean HELL!!!! & it's a slow long taper. google it & you will see it referred to as Satan or the devil by ppl who have been on it, ( SO Nick may be onto something about Satan looking after ya LOL!) many who cannot even get off of it b/c they can't tolerate the W/D's. I know BP sounds stupid to hardcore addicts right? but dont' we have enough to deal with, why add another issue into the mix & using it to ease WDs especially major ones could result in someone taking it for a week or more, therefore probably enough time to suffer the WD's from hell that drug from hell causes. So honestly just wanted you to be warned. it may be fine & a good help only used for a day or so but then again if you aren't on it regular like yourself, it may not b/c it won't be built up in your bloodstream causing the effects you describe. Anyhoo I don't mind being called a fucking bitch & told to fuck off lol I certainly have been called worse. ok I mind:rolleyes: but appollgy accepted. Seriously though the BP was really NOT even my main pt. just kindof a FYI for anyone considering or already taking this med. I had no fucking idea I was walking around in danger of having a stroke until I happened to get it checked at a yearly OB appt & that Dr. was floored & majorly concerned about it being so high made me get all kinds of tests & blood work done (also b/c of the weight gain it caused) . & it took weeks & weeks to come back down, had to check in with reg Dr. every few days & keep a chart monitoring it 2x a day blah blah so it actually wasn't real fun. Also took weeks to recover from the WD off that med which was really what I was trying to give a heads up about just so no one else would stop it CT like my dumb ass did & suffer the way I did. TAPER!

CPers do end up on that med b/c it is prescribed for nerve pain & other pains that is why I thought it would be relevant to get the info out there. dont' want anyone else to suffer needlessly. So when you mentioned no other opiate takers would need to be on it I disagree especially the ones with chronic pain and/or depression....

I have a boatload of that expensive shit left in my closet. so if ever I do end up in w/d's I'll try it for a day & see if it helps & report back since that is what the real topic was about. I just would rather you be pissed & call me a fucking bitch & an asshole etc a 1000x over then see someone else suffer like I did. W/ds are bad enough why end up prolonging the miserable. so maybe if nothing else take out of this dont' use it for a long period of time if you do use it to ease the wd's & if you are on it, don't stop suddenly & if you do happen to care about your BP being higher than your hypertension grandma check it once in a while K? :rolleyes: what is it about BP that angers you so much anyhow may I ask :D fuck I am fucking all stoned again & wrote another way too long post sorry about that. I"ll try to edit it when I sober up a little bit & shorten it.
PEACE!
queeny blender

[blenderqueen]

Hey Papa: Good for you, brother. Not having WD is a fucking godsend! I heard some peeps say the anti's are good for that, good to see it actually does work.
Ignore that blood pressure nonsense, if you take it like the bottle says, you'll be fine.

take it easy PapaV!!! ;-)


Oxy


Actually that is not accurate taking it like the bottle says sure can cause extreme high BP. trust me I lived it & it sucked ass (that is what was causing some major massive headaches, nosebleed & other shit that i had no idea what it was coming from). and again that wasn't even my point LOL it was just to warn papa v & anyone else on it not to stop CT as the WDs are like being dope sick but worse. with a small habit or binge & just for a day or maybe 3 max it probably would be just fine as an aid but at least ya'll now know all the other nasty shit that goes along with that drug.

take care. I can tell we are gonna be good pals:D:p
peace
BQ

[Papa Verine]

actually the reason I even mentioned the BP was just a side note & why I ended up stopping it cold turkey & wanted to warn YOU & any others taking it currently or considering taking it that W/Ds from it are HELL I mean HELL!!!! & it's a slow long taper. google it & you will see it referred to as Satan or the devil by ppl who have been on it, ( SO Nick may be onto something about Satan looking after ya LOL!) many who cannot even get off of it b/c they can't tolerate the W/D's. I know BP sounds stupid to hardcore addicts right? but dont' we have enough to deal with, why add another issue into the mix & using it to ease WDs especially major ones could result in someone taking it for a week or more, therefore probably enough time to suffer the WD's from hell that drug from hell causes. So honestly just wanted you to be warned. it may be fine & a good help only used for a day or so but then again if you aren't on it regular like yourself, it may not b/c it won't be built up in your bloodstream causing the effects you describe. Anyhoo I don't mind being called a fucking bitch & told to fuck off lol I certainly have been called worse. ok I mind:rolleyes: but appollgy accepted. Seriously though the BP was really NOT even my main pt. just kindof a FYI for anyone considering or already taking this med. I had no fucking idea I was walking around in danger of having a stroke until I happened to get it checked at a yearly OB appt & that Dr. was floored & majorly concerned about it being so high made me get all kinds of tests & blood work done (also b/c of the weight gain it caused) . & it took weeks & weeks to come back down, had to check in with reg Dr. every few days & keep a chart monitoring it 2x a day blah blah so it actually wasn't real fun. Also took weeks to recover from the WD off that med which was really what I was trying to give a heads up about just so no one else would stop it CT like my dumb ass did & suffer the way I did. TAPER!

CPers do end up on that med b/c it is prescribed for nerve pain & other pains that is why I thought it would be relevant to get the info out there. dont' want anyone else to suffer needlessly. So when you mentioned no other opiate takers would need to be on it I disagree especially the ones with chronic pain and/or depression....

I have a boatload of that expensive shit left in my closet. so if ever I do end up in w/d's I'll try it for a day & see if it helps & report back since that is what the real topic was about. I just would rather you be pissed & call me a fucking bitch & an asshole etc a 1000x over then see someone else suffer like I did. W/ds are bad enough why end up prolonging the miserable. so maybe if nothing else take out of this dont' use it for a long period of time if you do use it to ease the wd's & if you are on it, don't stop suddenly & if you do happen to care about your BP being higher than your hypertension grandma check it once in a while K? :rolleyes: what is it about BP that angers you so much anyhow may I ask :D fuck I am fucking all stoned again & wrote another way too long post sorry about that. I"ll try to edit it when I sober up a little bit & shorten it.
PEACE!
queeny blender

I can't fucking believe you accepted my apology for that druken post. You must be a good Christian or one stand up lady. Thanks. Would you like to go get some coffee?

[blenderqueen]

ROFL if I stayed mad at everyone who ever called me a bitch or worse while drunk I"d be lonely. for that matter if everyone stayed mad at me who I acted like a complete hose beast to when I was drunk (especially on jack) I'd be minus a few friends heh!

coffee? only if it has baileys & franghelico in it:)

[Papa Verine]

ROFL if I stayed mad at everyone who ever called me a bitch or worse while drunk I"d be lonely. for that matter if everyone stayed mad at me who I acted like a complete hose beast to when I was drunk (especially on jack) I'd be minus a few friends heh!

coffee? only if it has baileys & franghelico in it:)

You can drink your coffee however you like. A little off-topic here but I read in another thread you were from Western PA. Do you know where Greenville is? Meadville? Sharon? My mother grew up there and I've spent A lot of time there. It's beautiful and the people there ARE very freindly.

[OxyContinuously]

Actually that is not accurate taking it like the bottle says sure can cause extreme high BP. trust me I lived it & it sucked ass (that is what was causing some major massive headaches, nosebleed & other shit that i had no idea what it was coming from). and again that wasn't even my point LOL it was just to warn papa v & anyone else on it not to stop CT as the WDs are like being dope sick but worse. with a small habit or binge & just for a day or maybe 3 max it probably would be just fine as an aid but at least ya'll now know all the other nasty shit that goes along with that drug.

take care. I can tell we are gonna be good pals:D:p
peace
BQ


oh no, you misunderstood, BQ. I was trying to poke at the embers of PapaV's drunkenness!! When he went off like that, I figured maybe he was high or some shit cause papav is pretty even tempered. Actually it's funny, cause a couple buddies of mine take cymbalta, and BQ, you are right on, so my fault, I was adding fuel to the fire, but I didn't mean to fuck w/ you. It WAS funny, tho, and i don't know how or why blood pressure spikes, but it can def be serious.:) :) SHit, I'm sure you've heard of Effexor (vanlafaxine) and its terrible WD's, so I can only *imagine* what cymbalta would be like LOL..

anyway, take care

OxyC

[candy]

I thought I would pop in here at this point.

Cymbalta works by increasing seratonin and norepinephrine levels in the brain. Both of which control emotion and sensitivity to pain, which could help with the withdrawals from opiates for someone taking it for a long period.

I wasn't sure if it was used only for a few days or longer for something such as depression. So, it could be that it is possible to ease w/d symptoms.

As far as blood pressure goes, it is a side effect that needs to be noted and anyone starting Cymbalta should have their blood pressure taken prior to even starting the drug and at intervals after starting, especially as you increase dosage.

Unfortunately there are side effects for all drugs and anyone with a prior history of say high blood pressure should avoid or be monitored carefully when on medications.

Everyone responds differently to medications and before starting any new medication, your doctor should make sure you are OK before prescribing it.
Just a reminder to anyone who monitors their blood pressure at home. Your B/P will change when you change your position from say standing to sitting or lying down to sitting up. Take your blood pressure when you are calm and before any type of exercise or activity.
Just some FYI's.

And one more thing...It is best not to stop taking any antidepressant without talking to your doctor and tapering off slowly. This goes for many others meds as well and always ask your doctor first before stopping any med.

Well, except for those of you taking opiates, you will want to ask for an increase, LOL!

[Papa Verine]

Thanks for confirming that Candy. I actually have, and always have had, real LOW blood pressure. I've gotten it up there during alcohol withdrawls but under normal circumstances my BP is low. I've been told by doctors and nurses that it's not dangerously low and that it's actually a good thing.

[blenderqueen]

You can drink your coffee however you like. A little off-topic here but I read in another thread you were from Western PA. Do you know where Greenville is? Meadville? Sharon? My mother grew up there and I've spent A lot of time there. It's beautiful and the people there ARE very freindly.

actually I went to school in western PA but live in the eastern part of the state. I know where all those places are from many ppl from all those towns went to IUP. lots of my friends were from "Gibo" Gibsonia & my BF at that time was from the Wexford area. Best part of being in w.pa when i was is that the Penns won the STanley cup. Happy fans made for fun bars LOL. I had to crack up the one place I was in ( around that area i mentioned forget hte exact name anymore) every time they'd get a goal he;d run around & Hug everyone & fill up our beers out of his pitcher. just a fun laid back type of ppl in that area. unlike snotty ppl from around here (closer to Philly LOL)

Oh & Oxy I was thinknig you are the one who was calling me stupid in my meth thread. maybe you still were I forget must be the meth I took to lower my tolerance. haha just/kidding.!!!!

now back to cymbalta. what are you taking it for papav? It did help my sciatica well but the weight gain & that EVIL DEMON INVOKING BLOOD PRESSURE ;) sorry couldn't resist was a real PITA. my DH took it & made him so duh head he backed into a tree (while we were camping LOL) so no one hurt & a parked car at work. did make his asshole demeanor much nicer though in fact he's thinkin gof going back on it that's how I know about the beta blockers they are now giving ppl who are benefiting from it to curb the BP issue.

gotta go to a work meeting FUCK FUCK FUCK not what I want to do WAHHHHH. (sorry that is wayyy off topic but since its your thread hope you dont mind)
ok cymbalta cymbalta.................................

xo
queenyblender

[blenderqueen]

Thanks for confirming that Candy. I actually have, and always have had, real LOW blood pressure. I've gotten it up there during alcohol withdrawls but under normal circumstances my BP is low. I've been told by doctors and nurses that it's not dangerously low and that it's actually a good thing.


me too it's usually like 110/62 or some shit &t hey take it twice to see if I'm alive so when it went up to like 150+/110 they were not happy!!!:eek:

work memeting FUCK
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