What Methamphetamine Does

[bi11i]

Me mum forwarded this article on to me - some of these before-and-afters are way too much. The worst that I've ever been is nothing compared to the irreversible damage these folks have done. I'll post attach a couple of them below (a before and then an only 3-year after), here's a link to the rest: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/photos/gallery.ssf?cgi-bin/view_gallery.cgi/olive/view_gallery.ata?g_id=2927

Some relevant links:

http://www.oregonlive.com/special/oregonian/meth/

http://www.oregonlive.com/special/oregonian/meth/pdfs/1003meth_superlab.pdf

And VERY interesting: The language of meth (http://www.oregonlive.com/special/oregonian/meth/stories/index.ssf?/oregonian/meth/languageofmeth.html)

The language of America's meth users

Crank, meth, crystal, ice: Methamphetamine
Cooking: Making meth
Spun: High
Spun monkey: Chronic meth user
Slamming: Injecting
Rig: Hypodermic needle
Run: Multiple days of using meth without sleeping
Crash: Long period of sleep following a run
Tweaking: Going on a long run
Tweaker: Chronic meth user
Shadow people: Image commonly cited by meth users in periods of paranoia
The language of California meth cops

User lab: Ounce-quantity lab for a tweaker's personal use
Smurfing: Buying small quantities of pseudoephedrine at many stores, a tweaker practice
Real nice lab: 10-pound (or larger) superlab operated by Mexican cartels in California
22: A 22-liter glass flask, the key component of a superlab
Step on it: Dilute meth with an inactive ingredient
Mope: Migrant farm worker hired to operate a superlab
Low crawl: Police technique to approach a superlab unseen
Leg bail: What mopes do when surprised by low-crawling cops, to flee
The language of meth traffickers

Chili: Methamphetamine
La medicina: Mexican trafficker term for pseudoephedrine, from Spanish word for medicine
Dawa: Middle Eastern pill broker term for pseudoephedrine, from Arabic word for medicine
Jesus Malverde: Turn-of-the-century bandit known as the patron saint of Mexican drug traffickers
Yeah, no shit - can you believe that? That's 3 years, 5 months. That poor woman, I feel so bad for her - I want to reach out and shake some fucking sense into her, I do.

[Peripat]

Jesus H Christ on a 12-inch bun...

I'd seen parts of that oregonian article, but not the before and after pics.

That's just terrifying.

If ever I needed justification to stick to the H (and I don't - but if I did, well, that would be it, right there.)

[paesan]

Meth is the fucking scourge of all drugs, it is the definition of plastic. Man made GARBAGE!!! Tweakers are some scary fucking people let me tell ya. I knew a tweaker that used to duct tape his blinds shut and was known for (and also arrested for) occasionally chasing the mail man down the street for trying to "get him". He also thought a lamp in his room was possessed and that it didn't like him because it would shock him every time he tried to turn it on. He once disapeared for the better part of a day and no one could find him. Turns out he spent the day hiding in dumpsters because he thought the coast gaurd helicopters were the Feds out looking for him (he lived in a beach house).

[Paregoric Kid]

methedrine has been around for a long time. it's demonized much more than the other amphetamines, just like heroin is much more demonized than other opioids/opiates. just say no to drug hysteria. people make bad choices, don't take care of themselves, that's caused by laziness not methamphetamine. meth itself can be used safely

[paesan]

Want to know what else pisses me the fuck off??? Here in Texas meth is everywhere, and those stupid suburban tweakers will sit there and bad mouth opies saying how fuckin bad they're while there in their houses smokin shards for days on end. And in reality tweak is 10 fold as physically & mentally detrimental as any opioid, even H. At least opioids don't cause psychosis and permanant brain damage. Dumb fucking tweakers.

Sorry I'm a little irate as you can probably tell. It's just that I've been saying for years how bad meth is and it's finally starting to show, and I continuously get yelled at by my tweaker friends about my opie use saying that "your fucking crazy, we're going to be going to your funeral soon" Think again psycho, the only way you'll be going to my funeral is if your crazy tweaked out ass kills me cause the demon in your shoe tells you too!!!

[Paregoric Kid]

I think you guys are buying a little too much into the DEA and media's effort to get people into a hysterical frenzy over meth. like it's some new big killer. meth flowed like water in the 50s when it was available over the counter in the US. it was also probably more widely abused then than it is now.

[paesan]

Yeah PK you are right, almost anything can be used safely it's pretty much up to the individual. But as far as frequent use & abuse goes, meth is far worse than any opiate in regards to the damage it does to your body and brain. I recently (about 3 months ago) had a friend OD and die from meth. He was selling it so he had a lot around, and him and another buddy were up for days smoking it and they started getting the tweaker paranoia. One of my other friends knocked on the door and they thought it was the cops so he started eating it by the gram. He put down 3-4 grams before he realized it wasn't the cops. Within an hour he went into seizures and died. The guys that were there were so fucking tweaked out and worried about getting arrested that it took them 2 hours after he stopped seizing before they called 911, he was dead long before the EMT's got there.

[Paregoric Kid]

perhaps more meth users need a benzo or opiate to mix with it. there used to be pills that combined both amphetamine and benzos.

[paesan]

Yeah I heard about those pills, I think they used to give em to house wives back in the day for stress or some shit. A friend of mines hippy mom tells me stories all the time about the good ole days of pharmaceuticals when K4's were a $1 and fentanyl rained from the sky. I heard you can still get em in mexico, though I've never cam across em...

[bi11i]

I think you guys are buying a little too much into the DEA and media's effort to get people into a hysterical frenzy over meth.looking at that picture above is enough to tell me that we're not in the middle of a media hysteria over meth. i've seen what it can do. picture the worst junky you know and then picture the worst meth user you know. see the difference? dea and media aside - meth is shit and I'd personally have ZERO problems with it finding it's way under the rug.... fucking shadow people.

[george123]

I read a book that came out recently called "Saying Yes" and it explains how drugs are hyped in the
media. For example during the 80's crack was called "worse than heroin", and recently meth "worse
than crack"...when they decide heroin is a big epidemic again it will be "worse than meth", witch won make sense because they already said that heroin is worse than crack wich is worse than meth...the whole thing is bullshit really

[bi11i]

I'm personally all for the quelling of mass drug hysteria - by all means, that's exactly what opiophile.org and Junkylife.com are about - but I've got to give some credence to the article done by the Oregonian. Maybe I feel some sort of allegiance to them, having lived in Portland or maybe the pictures of those folks is just too much for me. I've certainly never seen a heroin user come out after a 3 year binge looking like that broad up there, has anyone?

Either way, I can't imagine having to look back at my life 3 year prior and see myself looking 20 years younger. The tracks and other incidentals I can handle, but her up there - no way.

[anthropod]

I think there are very real differences between the effects caused by pharmaceutical methamphetamine and what's sold as methamphetamine on the streets. Theoretically, it would be possible to take fertilizer, battery components, match heads, aluminum foil and all the other ingredients used in clandestine labs, and come up with fairly decent meth, but in practice the end results are always toxic to at least some degree. Some of the toxicity is immediate, and some takes years to appear, but the immediate side effects from these poisons affects the behavior of meth users. The lousy side effects contribute to the addictiveness in that using more helps to mask the discomfort of poisoning. So what we really have here is yet more negative consequences of the war on drugs - sickness, antisocial behavior, chronic disease, environmental pollution, and hazardous waste that costs a lot to clean up and poisons innocent children.

If Desoxyn were available OTC, many of the really bad things we're seeing as the media runs with this latest drug scare would not be happening. There would still be many people taking unhealthy quantities and there would still be bad health effects and antisocial behavior, but it wouldn't be the "scourge" that it is now. I believe that most methamphetamine users would switch to cocaine if both were legalized, and that most cocaine addicts would either quit or learn how to manage their usage in a short period of time if a constant, stable supply were made available. Too often, the source of temptation takes the form of immediate availablity of the "good stuff." One has to decide right then and there whether to do it or not. If it were always available, it would be much easier to postpone usage. This is all just my opinion, of course, based on my own observations of peoples' behavior. The more unstable the supply of something is, the more many people seem to lose control of their usage on those occasions when it is available, and this is frequently characterized by seeking it and settling for substances significantly more adulterated than what was originally binged on. And the cycle of frustration and binging to relieve the frustration sets in. Crack addiction is a perfect example of this, and so is what passes for "meth" these days.

[Paregoric Kid]

the solution: make methamphetamine legal OTC again

[bi11i]

I believe that most methamphetamine users would switch to cocaine if both were legalized, and that most cocaine addicts would either quit or learn how to manage their usage in a short period of time if a constant, stable supply were made available. Too often, the source of temptation takes the form of immediate availablity of the "good stuff." One has to decide right then and there whether to do it or not. If it were always available, it would be much easier to postpone usage. I would love to see this theory in action. I'm all for legalization and would have no problems whatsoever with the legalization of meth as opposed to wiping it out. Some of the toxicity is immediate, and some takes years to appear, but the immediate side effects from these poisons affects the behavior of meth users. The lousy side effects contribute to the addictiveness in that using more helps to mask the discomfort of poisoning. So what we really have here is yet more negative consequences of the war on drugs - sickness, antisocial behavior, chronic disease, environmental pollution, and hazardous waste that costs a lot to clean up and poisons innocent children.
I hadn't thought of that - good point. It never occured to me that meth in it's purest form might do less damage then ye olde bathtub cut.

[COLONELWAYNE]

Bi11i and anthropod have summed it up in a nutshell. You can't compare street grade meth to pharmacuetical grade. Yeah it may have been sold over the counter 50 years ago but I guarantee it wasn't made out of toulene, arsenic and farm fertilizer! The methamphetimine a doctor prescribes you won't make you look like this before and after picture above in three years,the bathtub crank which is basically what you get off the streets WILL make you look like this woman in a few years and the aging process is irreversible. This form of meth is NOT safe nor healthy and thats not drug hype or mass hysteria thats talking, thats the honest to Gods truth.Take it or leave it!I've been there and done it. Just for the record, it DOES cause long term brain damage as well as psychosis and anti-social disorder.Fact! later..... C.W.

[Buckshot]

For the record...Yes meth can be nasty, I hate it becuase I've been there. Shit... I even know people who used to cook the stuff up, and I personally know in detail the 3 most common methods used to cook meth. Yes there are dozen of methods used to cook meth, but 90% of clandestine lab use variations of 3-4 common methods to make it.

And I have never...ever...ever heard of people using arsinic or fram fertalizer. And solvents like toluene or ether for example dont end up in the finished product. Its not possible because they evaporate clean. There isnt any remains of the ether, its a clean solvent that leaves no residue. That's like saying pure herion contains acetic anhydride.

Clean meth is pure methamphetamine. If you could get it clean the harm to the user is because the body can't function right when you dont sleep for days at a time. And during the time with no sleep your system is REALLY pumping hard, you should be exhausted from an hour of meth use. Like running a marathon. But you dont feel exhausted whatsoever. So your body is pumping blood like crazy and your heart is pounding, and you are burning calories like crazy. Calories give us energy, but the meth user will goes days without eating a thing. And your tonuge is flipping around inside your mouth for so long that it becomes all cut up from rubbing on your teeth, that if wanted to eat it you cant because your mouth is so sore.

After say about 30 days of sleeping every 7 days or so for only a few hours, while hardly eating. I assure you that you would also look like the girl from the faces of meth picture above. You begin to hear things and see shadow people that look very realistic.

That type of tweak experience happened to me only one time, I didnt sleep for 3 days AFTER my last line of pure crystal. After that I gave the rest of my meth to someone for free and haven't touched the stuff since. That was about two years ago.

There is the equivelant of opiophile.org for meth users/cooks called wetdreams.ws Register at that site...... If you dare.

[COLONELWAYNE]

Hey ,I've been around my share of the above mentioned, anahydrous ammonia IS a farm fertilizer, toulene is a type paint thinner used to soak the sudafed to remove blockers and arsenic is a toxic waste left over after the fact. Just the fact that the finished product comes anywhere near the chemicals mentioned above in the process leaves room for human error to kick in and mistakes to be made with dire consequences.Especially among people who are tweaking. There is just no way to justify saying this stuff is as safe to use as prescription amphetimines. It's not! And furthermore,not everyone's formula for making is the same.That's another thing quality and purity are sacrificed due to lack of certain things being available and not having ample time to prepare, therefore you don't know what you've actually wound up with in the end.

[Soda]

These pictures don't look like the same person was used. Gender, haircolor, and age are all the consistent - but ears, noses, and even ethnicity seem to change. I admit I'm not sure. But look at this guy below. In three years, it's possible that he cured his acne, got a tan, and cut off his sideburns. Nonetheless, could he have also pointed his ears, grown fuller eyebrows, developed fuller lips, and made his hairline actually increase?
Like I said, I'm not sure. They both have a scar over the left eyebrow. In any case, definately check out that link - it even looks like a brother snorted meth that made him into a cracker, sucking the blackness from his soul.
(Yes, the one on your left is the BEFORE picture)

[Curio]

yeah, this guys pic almost looks like he has lost about four inches in heighth, not just adipose tissue...

[Sitar]

That's totally the same person in that picture! How can you not tell?

And I agree 100% with what Paregoric Kid is saying.

A lot of the problems with meth stem from the nasty white trash that use most of it, more than anything else. And everyone is forgetting the number one worst and most damaging drug of all time: ALCOHOL. It STILL kills more people than all other drugs combined.

And by the way, ParegoricKid, I have had the pleasure of trying real Paregoric. It was an incredibly old bottle, but since it's mostly alcohol I figured it would be safe to try. It tasted like a nasty licorice and camphor shot. Didn't do much of anything, as the morphine level is so low in Paregoric. Much lower than Laudanum. Oh well, it was neat to try it.

[RobOC]

I hate meth. I have seen good people become worthless lowlives in a matter of months. The whole tweaker culture is fucked up, but I guess that is what happens when people dont sleep for weeks on end. I just dont get it; how could you not want to sleep?

[Curio]

I'm just saying I don't believe even a picture anymore, esp. not with how technical/real things look these days that aren't, but were touched up with Photoshop.....the govt. and certain "powers" that be will do and create whatever images, etc. necessary to promote their own causes and further the advance of their politics...

I used to think people who said stuff like I just wrote ^^^
were paranoid freaks....now I'm learning it's often the left and the right that point the way to the biggest "truths"....

[slugbone]

that is my biggest question with meth. i mean, some folks dig the up, but for christ sake staying awake for 4-5 goddamn days in row? no way man. me, i am hard wired to dig depressants and opiates. the worst upper type thing i ever tried was mini thins, that pussy trucker ephedra and i hated the feeling. god knows how much worse meth is man gimme opiates, a couch and TV and i am set for days.

[Sitar]

No drug is evil. None. But some of the use or forms of use can be pretty bad.

The dumb white trash that use meth for days and weeks on end and cause a ton of trouble are the problem, not the drug. Alcohol is still worse.

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

[quote=Soda]it even looks like a brother snorted meth that made him into a cracker, sucking the blackness from his soul.
quote]
LOL

[Opiyum]

Apples and oranges are great this time of year not to mention pot's and black kettle's.


So can we agree that DRUGS ARENT BAD BUT WHAT THEY CAN DO TO PEOPLE IS!

I think one thing that says alot is the fact that these people must have had some sort of traumatic experience for this to happen in three years. The majority of them looked very straight to me so this leads me to believe that some sort of loss(you can all imagine many different forms) befell them and they fell into the comforting arms of meth. If someone has relativley no experience with use drugs and they start out with or quickly get into Meth is, to say the least, a disastor waiting to happen. But I wouldnt blame it on "laziness" either I would chalk it up to the human condition. These people apparently needed some sort of release and they sure found it unfortunatley there is no quick fix for situations that I imagine must have happened to these people. I'm not saying that all people who start using drugs start using because of a traumatic experience but when your average sober middle-aged american starts using Crystal Meth out of the blue....well it stirs my suspicions that's all. Maybe you disagree? If you do let me know in a hrash tone.
Of course this is all based on an assumption and im pretty sure I've been a hypocryte in one or two ways too....human condition 2 human 0.

So all in all the unfortunate thing is that these people had noone or nothing to reach out to and apparently noone was reaching out to them. I lay blame upon a lack of community in the states(and if we get our way(Lord I hope not)then the rest of the wordl is soon to follow).
COME TOGETHER....RIIGHT NOOOEWOWWW....WOOOVER ME. bumbump titititishhhhh doodolley doodelly doodelly bump bump....

I should have stopped at "Human Condition 0"

PEACE

PS Would they have been better off begining an anti-depressants regimen that will cause further problems down the road only leading to more symptoms, more prescriptions, more bills, more debt(causing more depression) and a higher dependance on the pharmaceutical entities?...oh excuse me I must take my medication now....until later.

[caesee]

Meth Teath!!!!!!!!!!1


http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/drugs/methamphetamine/meth_mouth.jpg

[Hammilton]

Meth really fucks with the teeth, thats for sure. Its probably from smoking the residual acid left in the shit. When meth is pure, it's rather safe. Its the shitty meth on the streets that is so bad for people. Yeah, its bad for people. It literally hurts them because of what it is. It is the drug that harmed them (or rather the impurities). Is it the persons fault that they took it? Sure.

Meth is surprisingly addictive. Dirty drugs plus a high rate of addiction can cause some severe problems. The more dopamine that gets released, the higher the rate of addiction. Meth releases more dopamine than standard amphetamine. Plus the higher rate it gets into the brain, causes a lot more addiction.

Sure, a drug itself isn't dangerous if you look at it. Once it starts being used it can be. Once your an addict and literally can't say no, maybe it can be a little bad. I dunno.

[goagirl23]

As with any drug, I think the user has control as to what extent they're going to let the drug take on their body/life. I agree that sleep deprivation is the main reson "Tweakers" are paranoid, loosing teeth, etc. One doesn't have to choose to stay awake for a week straight! I known meth users whom nobody would have suspected were using. They got sleep, ate healthy, etc. etc.

Even as an opiate user, one can make the choice to get high all day and spend all their money on dope, miss work, get fired, not pay bills or rent, get evicted and end up homeless etc. etc.

People just need to make the decision to be a responsible drug user or not.

[Opiyum]

^^^yep its definatley that simple...when someone says something like that they remind me of god-damn conservative christian cocksuckin' republican's...
ah well. Whatever flicks your switch

[goagirl23]

^^^yep its definatley that simple...when someone says something like that they remind me of god-damn conservative christian cocksuckin' republican's...
ah well. Whatever flicks your switch


I wasn't implying that it's easy at all. Drugs have often been my tool for coping with rough times. You definitley can get caught up in over your head before you know it, but I still feel like we can make a decision to change things.

[Sitar]

I'm really surprised that such conservative opinions on drugs are permeating a drug-addict website.

I mean, all these horror stories and pictures only come from a small percentage of overall meth users. There are a hell of a lot that DON'T wind up like all that, but those are the ones that you DON'T hear about. Why? Because the media cannot sensationalize THOSE stories!

You guys really are giving into exactly what the media wants you to think.

As for the question about seeing heroin turn someone into a lifeless skeletal wreck after just a few years... that happens quite a bit!!! The same things being said in the media about meth are the SAME THINGS being said about heroin junkies before the whole meth "epidemic" (media scare tactics) came into play a few years ago.

Get with it, people. Stop listening to the scare-media. You KNOW they're winning when a bunch of drug users believe scare stories about other drugs.

[Opiyum]

I'm really surprised that such conservative opinions on drugs are permeating a drug-addict website.

I mean, all these horror stories and pictures only come from a small percentage of overall meth users. There are a hell of a lot that DON'T wind up like all that, but those are the ones that you DON'T hear about. Why? Because the media cannot sensationalize THOSE stories!

You guys really are giving into exactly what the media wants you to think.

As for the question about seeing heroin turn someone into a lifeless skeletal wreck after just a few years... that happens quite a bit!!! The same things being said in the media about meth are the SAME THINGS being said about heroin junkies before the whole meth "epidemic" (media scare tactics) came into play a few years ago.

Get with it, people. Stop listening to the scare-media. You KNOW they're winning when a bunch of drug users believe scare stories about other drugs.

ditto

[superman]

meth is great. especially in lower doses. the trick to keeping it in check is to never take any after 12pm. slam 50mg at 8am or when you get up, and another 25mg at noon. as long as meth doesn't conflict with your personal neurochemistry this will make for an awesomely productive day.

it's when UNEDUCATED people buy a gram of top notch meth for a mere $80 and... wow... realize they can stay wide awake and feel great for a several days on end that trouble begins.

as I said, meth is great, if you know how to use it.

[Set]

http://www.coolnurse.com/images/ice_meth.jpg

I am living in the Tweak Capital of the USA....Tulsa Oklahoma! We have soooo many 'tweakers' here that you gotta sign for pseudoephedrine here. 'Smurfing' is done when all the users contribute whatever pseudoephedrine they can get....Ice is the BIG thing here...and Mexican Cartels are making up for the loss in domestic mobile meth labs...;)

http://www.rbdesignlab.com/portfolio/drugsuspicion/images/DRUGS/ice_meth_crystal.jpg

[Sitar]

meth is great. especially in lower doses. the trick to keeping it in check is to never take any after 12pm. slam 50mg at 8am or when you get up, and another 25mg at noon. as long as meth doesn't conflict with your personal neurochemistry this will make for an awesomely productive day.

it's when UNEDUCATED people buy a gram of top notch meth for a mere $80 and... wow... realize they can stay wide awake and feel great for a several days on end that trouble begins.

as I said, meth is great, if you know how to use it.
I found that pretty much true as well. I always used it (in my dreams only), in what would be considered "theraputic" doses; no more than 30 or 40 milligrams in one day. Since I actually have adult ADD, it affects me a little differently than the average person. I felt that it made my brain function MUCH more efficiently.

I never got crazy or did anything unusual because of meth. And the longest I ever stayed up on it was maybe 36 hours, and that only happened a few times; usually because I used some too late in the evening. Most of the time, I didn't really stay awake much longer than I normally would have. If you take it easy with it and don't go nuts with doses, it won't make you stay up for days.

It's when dumb white trash use half a gram a day for days on end that it will cause them to stay up for a week at a time. And virtually all of the crazy shit that they do is actually because of the sleep deprivation, and not necessarily because of the meth itself. And again, severe sleep deprivation is a result of reckless use of meth, and won't occur with responsible use.

As for the teeth rotting- I never had a problem with that! Again, it's dumb white trash users that don't brush their teeth ever and eat nothing but crap junk food with which this is occuring.

[blackdog]

the pics r fer real when you put poisen in your system you die a slow death from the inside out. the fucking peeps in the pics are actually shrinking untill theres nothing left just like lepers with pieces falling off and all.
da/dawgg

p.s. 30 years ago i was trucking over the road and we had crstal meth and we used to buy contact and shit capsules and empty them and refill with the crystal..hell n.y. to l.a. and back not a problem.
and that shit was hairraisers youd feel each folicle tweaking

[Opiyum]

Im pretty sure im never going to go on a Meth amphet binge again but one thing I'd really love to try is Dexedrine. I think they only prescribe it for morbidly obese (sp?) people so as far as i can tell its very hard to come by...
I have a feeling its really fuckin clean though...that would be nice

[Sitar]

the pics r fer real when you put poisen in your system you die a slow death from the inside out. the fucking peeps in the pics are actually shrinking untill theres nothing left just like lepers with pieces falling off and all.
da/dawgg


I never said the pictures weren't real. I know a few people with "meth mouth", and it definitely isn't pretty.

However, this phenomenon appears to primarily occur with people of the lowest strata of society. Adolf Hitler never got meth mouth. Then again, he had his meth shot straight into his veins, instead of smoking it.

[superman]

Im pretty sure im never going to go on a Meth amphet binge again but one thing I'd really love to try is Dexedrine. I think they only prescribe it for morbidly obese (sp?) people so as far as i can tell its very hard to come by...
I have a feeling its really fuckin clean though...that would be nice

it's actually widely prescribed to anyone who's been taking stims for add for a long time. basicly in most people ritalin becomes ineffective at reasonable doses so you get bumped to racemic amphetamine or dextroamphetamine(dexedrine)

[Soda]

Im pretty sure im never going to go on a Meth amphet binge again but one thing I'd really love to try is Dexedrine. I think they only prescribe it for morbidly obese (sp?) people so as far as i can tell its very hard to come by...
I have a feeling its really fuckin clean though...that would be nice
Dexedrine is not fun for me, the crash is bad. Some people like it : /. It's for ADD.

[CUBErt]

Being a user of heroin and other widely demonized drugs, I'd have to sympathize a bit with the responsible meth users (yes there is such a thing), who have to be dealt with so harshely during this hype. However, in my experience opiate users have been MUCH more pleasant to deal with, not because of my prejudice but because of the nature of the drugs. An upper can get you all wound up and exciteable and possibly violent. Both junkies and tweakers can turn into monsters when their supply runs out, but I have found tweakers to be equally unpleasant while on their drug, just in a different way.

My distaste for tweaking reached an all time high with this event:
The H hookups I know were out of town/unreachable, so I accompanied a friend to pitch on some dope from his hookup. I was driving. We picked him up from the trailer park and he was heavily sedated on his own dope supply, but was also in the midst of a tweak binge. As part of the deal we had to take him downtown to sleep on the beach, because he was convinced that there was a bunch of people that were trying to jump him and take his drugs. So we had to drive around to find the perfect spot for him to weigh out our 3G's of black and be done with him, but he was sketched about every spot we went to. My friend said, "why not my house?" because his parents were out of town. The guy refused. My friend started mentioning other places we could go and the guy started freaking out, saying shit like, "Why the fuck are you saying all these places out loud man?! Its really fuckin' suspicious!" He takes my friends phone for a minute to make sure he hasn't called anyone in his pocket to collaborate on a place to jack him. Well even after seeing the phone he still thinks my friend might have a wire on him. So he gives me directions to get to somewhere to weigh it out, and when approaching an intersection he'd say "go left" really loud and then at the last minute he'd start hitting me on the shoulder and frantically pointing right in an attempt to fool whoever might be listening in on the wire. Well long story short we drove around like this for 1 or 2 hours downtown until finally he had seen the same cop car one too many times. He told me to pull over, so I pulled into this truck yard. He then abruptly got out of the car and without saying a word he just walked off.... without ever selling us some dope. Thankfully his neighbor back at the park was able to take care of us but God damn what a fuckin hassle!

[HeidiW]

Uh, I fucked up big time Sunday afternoon. After three years off of this shit, I went a got a bag. I was quickly reminded why I quit in the first place. I stood at my window all night long, with the lights off, just ready and waiting for my door to blown in. Ha, what an ass! And then yesterday morning, I lost the shit, only to find it laying on the floor, about 3 ft from my old man. I got REAL lucky, thank God he didn't see it. It would've been curtains for me:o

[Soda]

Uh, I fucked up big time Sunday afternoon. After three years off of this shit, I went a got a bag. I was quickly reminded why I quit in the first place. I stood at my window all night long, with the lights off, just ready and waiting for my door to blown in. Ha, what an ass! And then yesterday morning, I lost the shit, only to find it laying on the floor, about 3 ft from my old man. I got REAL lucky, thank God he didn't see it. It would've been curtains for me:o

What were you thinking? Did something happen that triggered your need foh speed?

[Narkotikon]

This is really scary. I'm glad I'm not a meth user. From what I've read about it, meth has got to be the worst thing anyone could ever do.

[Ragdoll]

Nark, I'm with you there.

[antony]

that is my biggest question with meth. i mean, some folks dig the up, but for christ sake staying awake for 4-5 goddamn days in row? no way man. me, i am hard wired to dig depressants and opiates. the worst upper type thing i ever tried was mini thins, that pussy trucker ephedra and i hated the feeling. god knows how much worse meth is man gimme opiates, a couch and TV and i am set for days.
http://i12.tinypic.com/4c0u8gn.jpg

[Narkotikon]

that is my biggest question with meth. i mean, some folks dig the up, but for christ sake staying awake for 4-5 goddamn days in row? no way man. me, i am hard wired to dig depressants and opiates. the worst upper type thing i ever tried was mini thins, that pussy trucker ephedra and i hated the feeling. god knows how much worse meth is man gimme opiates, a couch and TV and i am set for days.

Exactly. I agree, I'm also a big downer person. I think it has something to do with the theory that introverted people (like myself) are naturally overtly stimulated, thereby shunning extra stimulation. Whereas extroverted people are understiumlated and need the extra stimulation. I admitt, I've done meth (in the form of crystal, smoking it) twice, but I really didn't like it. Well, I kind of liked the euphoric effects, but not as much as I like coke. Coke is the only stimulant I like, and I only do that once or twice a year, usually when someone offers or mentions it. It's just too expensive for me to do, it doesn't last long enough, and I don't like the comedown. It's just a money hungry bitch. My only problem with meth is the bad effects. When I was doing it the first time, I stayed up for four days, and was totally paranoid. I was looking out my dorm room window, thought I could hear my hall neighbors talking outside my door (actually, I do think that was true, because my RA was this really conservative frat guy who didn't like me because I was liberal and "strange" to him. He ended up calling the campus police (department of public safety) to do a hall search, where they searched everyone's rooms. Luckily, I had my window open and heard them talking outside and immediately got my stuff. I had a pot pipe, a pack of syringes, whippits, a cracker, and of course the meth bag and light bulb. Anyway, I got out in time and they didn't find anything). So, yeah, I'm not a big fan of meth just because of the paranoia and the horrible affects it does to your body. The jitteryness, the acne breakouts, how it eventually errodes your teeth, etc.. So, you may ask why I did it the second time. Because I was offered it and was a dumbass. Never again.

[Seedy]

I really don't see why meth is so popular. I've always got a better buzz off amphetamine sulphates (prescription and illicit). I find it has a much more noticable happy speedy buzz than pure crystal and I can actually sleep it off with a bit of effort. While meth does get me wired for much longer I don't find it recreational at all. It makes me emotionally void, ie not really interested in anything. Yeah gimme opiates & downers any day;)

[poonwhalla]

meth sucks it always makes me feel just awake no euphoria. the only time I felt shit was on a 2 day H and crack binge where I didn't really sleep and I found myself hanging with a bunch of tweekers that were smoking it out of a hand blown meth pipe well after I took 3-4 hits I was high and could not see in front of my face or focus on the conversation this tweeker was talking about because I couldn't see his face but I am guessing it was mostly from being up for 2 days and introducing something new there to nail my eyelids open.

[Beautifully_Broken]

trying meth doesn't interest me at all

by contrast, i dont think the govt has done SHIT to stop the meth problem here. I'm from rural georgia, ive seen whole towns hooked on that shit, and the best thing the gov has come up w/ is regulating the sale of sudafed???? but marijuana is still considered a very dangerous drug, cause they still show those stupid fucking anti-pot comercials w/ stoners running over kids in the drive-thru. Does this seem warped to anyone else, or is it just me? last time i checked stoners dont often rob and kill people to fund their habit (at least not the ones i know)

[InneedinFla.]

Damn!!! Is all I have to say. Except that I agree about the guy with the pointed ears. Doesn't look at all like the same person.

[CUBErt]

Changed my mind, shards are sweet.... only with H though.... only with H!

[madnesscult]

I don't know if anyone's seen these ads, but some of them are pretty amusing.

http://www.notevenonce.com/

They were really big on 4chan for a while...with people changing the pics/text (pic of homeless guys having oral sex in a van with the caption "you never thought you'd loose your virginity here. 4chan wil change that".

[CUBErt]

dude fuckin funny

[CUBErt]

Dude just watched them all, havent laughed so fuckin hard ina while

[AWOL]

Meth is the fucking scourge of all drugs, it is the definition of plastic. Man made GARBAGE!!! Tweakers are some scary fucking people let me tell ya. I knew a tweaker that used to duct tape his blinds shut and was known for (and also arrested for) occasionally chasing the mail man down the street for trying to "get him". He also thought a lamp in his room was possessed and that it didn't like him because it would shock him every time he tried to turn it on. He once disapeared for the better part of a day and no one could find him. Turns out he spent the day hiding in dumpsters because he thought the coast gaurd helicopters were the Feds out looking for him (he lived in a beach house).

A-fucking-Men. I'm not doggin on anybody, there are plenty of problems with opiates too. But god almighty, if you've ever known a tweaker you will stay far away from picking up a habit on this shit.

I'm just saying I don't believe even a picture anymore, esp. not with how technical/real things look these days that aren't, but were touched up with Photoshop.....

No offence here at all comatoes, just offering my opinion up here. I have a degree in Multimedia and just wanted to say that you are absolutely right about how easy it is to change anything you want and make it look 100% real. However that being said ... if someone did take two different people and make them look the same. The scar would have been easy shit to add on either of them. The color of the individuals skin however, would have been EASY SHIT to match. If someone where messing with those photos, the first thing they would have done was matched the color of their skin. So I tend to believe that it is the same person with a lot of weight lost etc. Atleast meth took care of his acne problem =)

The majority of them looked very straight to me so this leads me to believe that some sort of loss(you can all imagine many different forms) befell them and they fell into the comforting arms of meth.

That's my story right there. Not with meth, but I agree 100%. Not knowing the background is missleading, it appears as though someone one day goes to the grocery store, visit's their sick friend, snorts some meth and immediatly turns into a tweaked out maniac.

[madnesscult]

I'm wondering about how they got the "before" photos. I mean, did they just put an ad in the paper asking for people who were planning on becomming tweakers and take their pictures? At first I was thinking mug shots, but a lot of the people do appear to be pretty "straight" in the before pics, as others have mentioned.

Oh hey, look at that, I made it to "junky" status with this post!

[chemboy7]

Oh hey, look at that, I made it to "junky" status with this post!

Sound's like it's time for you to admit you have a problem. :D

[Soda]

Good point about the before photos, madness. If they were already tweakers, and being paid to do this project to show damage, thats a lot of unscientific protocol right there. They arent exactly a random sample of the tweaker population. This guy is a heavy user, but he hasn't turned into a black midget with an extra thumb, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-sBTfG-Hso.
Spun is a good film about tweaking, a bunch of good actors.

[covv799ss]

Want to know what else pisses me the fuck off??? Here in Texas meth is everywhere, and those stupid suburban tweakers will sit there and bad mouth opies saying how fuckin bad they're while there in their houses smokin shards for days on end. And in reality tweak is 10 fold as physically & mentally detrimental as any opioid, even H. At least opioids don't cause psychosis and permanant brain damage. Dumb fucking tweakers.

Sorry I'm a little irate as you can probably tell. It's just that I've been saying for years how bad meth is and it's finally starting to show, and I continuously get yelled at by my tweaker friends about my opie use saying that "your fucking crazy, we're going to be going to your funeral soon" Think again psycho, the only way you'll be going to my funeral is if your crazy tweaked out ass kills me cause the demon in your shoe tells you too!!!


I know what you're talking about, I'm from Texas too. I remember being told by someone that he wouldn't touch oxys because they were "almost as bad as heroin" as he was taking giant rips out of a speed bong and moving erratically all over his house...

[covv799ss]

No drug is evil. None. But some of the use or forms of use can be pretty bad.

The dumb white trash that use meth for days and weeks on end and cause a ton of trouble are the problem, not the drug. Alcohol is still worse.


Alcohol sure is disproportionately portrayed negatively by "anti-drug" media like DARE (what can you expect by an alcohol-lobby front org), but worse than meth... :xmas-smil?

The day after the first night I spent smoking speed, I wasn't really craving it per se...but faces on the posters in my wall would turn into rotting skeletons out of the corner of my eye, and I kept seeing black shapes darting around out of my peripheral vision...oh, and while walking down the stairs I blacked out from the exerting my body so much the night before.

I'd take my worst hangover over that anyday.

[superman]

The day after the first night I spent smoking speed, I wasn't really craving it per se...but faces on the posters in my wall would turn into rotting skeletons out of the corner of my eye, and I kept seeing black shapes darting around out of my peripheral vision...oh, and while walking down the stairs I blacked out from the exerting my body so much the night before.

you did too much.... i did my first time too... didn't know any better so i sniffed half of the 1/2 gram i purchased. obviously this is far too much for a first timer. i am surprised those god-like feelings i experienced did inspire me to try and assault every man in the bar i was at....

definately evoked an insane superiority complex. felt like a giant among midgets.... a god among mere mortals....

did i ever kick ass at pool that night though :)

[madnesscult]

but faces on the posters in my wall would turn into rotting skeletons out of the corner of my eye, and I kept seeing black shapes darting around out of my peripheral vision.

Apparently seeing the "shadow people" is pretty common for people who have been doing meth for extended periods of time. I wonder if the hallucinations are from the drug use or the sleep deprivation?

[AWOL]

Apparently seeing the "shadow people" is pretty common for people who have been doing meth for extended periods of time. I wonder if the hallucinations are from the drug use or the sleep deprivation?

I'd guess both? But after a high dose of DXM I used to see all sorts of weird shit in my periphrial and hear voices and things if I didn't go to sleep. Expecially if I listened to music, it really freaked me out.

[SpecialGuy69]

The voices thing happens to me with ambien- like I'll be laying in bed in the dark, and think I heard someone say something, it's always almost intelligible, but not. As soon as I turn the lights on, it stops. It only happens when I'm spaced out and sleepy. It's kinda creepy until I remind myself it's just a side effect.

[slugbone]

The voices thing happens to me with ambien- like I'll be laying in bed in the dark, and think I heard someone say something, it's always almost intelligible, but not. As soon as I turn the lights on, it stops. It only happens when I'm spaced out and sleepy. It's kinda creepy until I remind myself it's just a side effect.


you know your ambien story got me thinking, i used to take quite a bit of that, and even though i never got sleepy i would take it for the buzz, such as it was. i would hear things while up laate and night and get kinda paranoid. i never knew it was a side effect though.

[chemboy7]

Apparently seeing the "shadow people" is pretty common for people who have been doing meth for extended periods of time. I wonder if the hallucinations are from the drug use or the sleep deprivation?

I suffer from extreme insomnia (even when using Opaites) and the times when it is at it's worst and I am up for 3 or 4 days I will start to hallucinate too, without any stimulants at all. Lack of sleep alone will do it to you.

[Soda]

your brain needs to dream, sleep or no

[greenfox]

The hippies of the 60's said it best:

SPEED KILLS!

[moviebuff927]

Meth in either street or pharmaceutical form is not generally healthy. I do believe that street meth is worse for your body than pharmaceutical grade. But if you abuse both of them, then the effects are similar. But I believe the worst is smoking meth. That's what really gets you hooked. Injecting is probably just as bad, but I don't know since I've only done meth one time and I smoked it. I didn't like it and that was years and years ago and I haven't done it since. And I never will again. I would smoke crack long before I'd do meth again.

And I don't like meth heads saying that we junkies are so much worse than they are. We don't get so paranoid that we shoot somebody or hear the lamp talking to us. We simply sink into our little paradise and don't want to be too bothered with anything else. But we won't kill you if you do happen to want something.

But it is a drug and I have sympathy for those who are addicted just like I have sympathy for those who are addicted to opiates. Addiction is a sad thing to witness and even worse to have. At one time I thought that addiction discrimination only existed between alcoholics and drug addicts. Now I see that it exists between addicts of every drug. But I do believe that opiates are the least desctructive addiction. And I know I'm not alone here. I'm not going to go rob a convenience store because I don't have any opiate. I can't say the same for tweakers, crackheads, and even alcoholics. There are some people who would be willing and do rob people or places for money to support a smack habit. But not nearly as many as meth and crack/coke heads.

But I do believe every addict should at least once try to get help with their addiction once they realize they have one. If you don't try to get help, you'll never know what could have happened. If you've tried and didn't like it, then fine, keep using. I got help and I discovered that I'm not ready to quit right now. Maybe one day I will be. But it's not right now.

[madnesscult]

I'd guess both? But after a high dose of DXM I used to see all sorts of weird shit in my periphrial and hear voices and things if I didn't go to sleep. Expecially if I listened to music, it really freaked me out.

I used to do DXM all the time, but I never experienced auditory hallucinations...but if you're into that kind of thing, dimenhydrate (dramamine) is great for that. I did that a few times, but stopped because I found out how damaging it can be. A friend of mine used to research extensively whatever drug we were thinking of trying, and dramamine was the only one we looked up after the fact. Apparently it can really fuck you up - I don't remember all of the things that it can cause, but it was all related to brain chemicals (like causing severe depression, stuff like that), and many of the effects were permanent. But the 2 times we did do it, it was pretty fun. I remember we were riding the bus while on it, and I was having a conversation with my friend, and about halfway through I realized that the whole conversation was going on in my head, so I started it over in real life, and it was really strange because it went EXACTLY as I had imagined it.

[AWOL]

I used to do DXM all the time, but I never experienced auditory hallucinations...but if you're into that kind of thing, dimenhydrate (dramamine) is great for that. I did that a few times, but stopped because I found out how damaging it can be. A friend of mine used to research extensively whatever drug we were thinking of trying, and dramamine was the only one we looked up after the fact. Apparently it can really fuck you up - I don't remember all of the things that it can cause, but it was all related to brain chemicals (like causing severe depression, stuff like that), and many of the effects were permanent. But the 2 times we did do it, it was pretty fun. I remember we were riding the bus while on it, and I was having a conversation with my friend, and about halfway through I realized that the whole conversation was going on in my head, so I started it over in real life, and it was really strange because it went EXACTLY as I had imagined it.

Well that's creepy. I took it once, but I took so much that I was hearing voices (like 10 at a time) that were all garbled and I couldn't understand. They were pretty loud. I lay in bed for two days waiting for that one to pass :( oh the dumb things I've done.

[AWOL]

Well that's creepy. I took it once, but I took so much that I was hearing voices (like 10 at a time) that were all garbled and I couldn't understand. They were pretty loud. I lay in bed for two days waiting for that one to pass :( oh the dumb things I've done. What a fucking idiot, I bet he did some brain damage with that one.

[alowishus]

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[Chipper]

Having spent some time as a tweaker, I have to say the problem with meth is the DOSAGE. You only need about 10-20 mgs. but people usually start with 100 mg minimum and then rapidly go up from there.

Now that's asking for trouble.

Fallout is directly proportional to dosage and purity.

[HeidiW]

I started out as a tweaker, and eventually progressed to a cook. I have nothing good whatsoever to say about meth. What we see today is chemically bad dope, believe this. P2P (phenyl-2-propanone) was outlawed by the DEA in the 80's. Meth/crank/tweak/whatever you want to call it, has NOT been good since.:mad::mad:

If y'all want to here some real horror stories relating to the use of methamphetamine, ask me.
I turn into a blundering, babbling, janked IDIOT on that shit. I can't even go outside. TOO many shadow people and conspiracies!!
I maintain a hell of a lot better since I switched to opiates, thats for sure.

[AWOL]

I started out as a tweaker, and eventually progressed to a cook. I have nothing good whatsoever to say about meth. What we see today is chemically bad dope, believe this. P2P (phenyl-2-propanone) was outlawed by the DEA in the 80's. Meth/crank/tweak/whatever you want to call it, has NOT been good since.:mad::mad:

If y'all want to here some real horror stories relating to the use of methamphetamine, ask me.
I turn into a blundering, babbling, janked IDIOT on that shit. I can't even go outside. TOO many shadow people and conspiracies!!
I maintain a hell of a lot better since I switched to opiates, thats for sure.

Maybe you could share your WORST experience with the shadow people here? I for one would love hearing it, if you care to share.

[ProdigalSon]

I love the shit. Its around alot with the rednecks. And moonshine, can get that all the time, just gotta go to the barn. But meth I can get it easy as a pack of smokes. Havent touched it in years and have no desire to but I think its great

[colkraig]

just like anythang else.You control it dont let it control you.

[Boudica]

Okay, I've tried to keep my mouth shut about this "issue", but the more posts I read, the more unrestrained I am finding myself. Wanna hear about my "experiences" w/meth? If not, skip this post. I won't blame anyone for not wanting to hear this. And please take note, that I am stating my experiences, NOT my opinion.

I've been dealing with my daughter's addiction to meth since she was 14 yrs. old. She's now 29. Every time she's been in the tweaker life, it is like she has been possessed by Satan himself. I'm not going to waste our time and energy by writing a book here, just a few of the "incidints" that I've "shared" with her. Like her physically attacking me, punching me in the face and getting me down on the floor and beating the shit out of me when I wouldn't give her money to buy crank. Like her punching holes through the wall of my room to unlock the door and steal everything of value I had worked for, to sell, to buy crank. Like calling me at 3:00am, freaked out of her mind, begging me to come and get her. It took me over an hour to find her, at a phone booth in the middle of nowhere walking in circles and speaking incoherant gibberish to whatever god she was addressing, with my 6 mo. baby granddaughter, in her carseat ON THE FLOOR in the back of her car with a look of terror on her little face that I will never forget as long as I live. Like the baby's father showing up at the door with court papers and cops and ripping her out of my arms as she screamed in terror. The depth of the losses I have had to feel every fucking day of my life and the tears that I still shed right now as I write this. What I've said here is only the tip of the iceberg and I cannot even go to the other places this "great drug" has taken me through my daughter's addiction to it. Use "responsibly?" Within "control?". Does anybody really believe that a person chooses crank over their own children, over their own mother, and is able to be in control of their use?

My daughter (who is STILL my little girl) is clean for almost a year this time. But I know that it can change tomorrow, today or in the next 5 minutes and I CAN be grateful for the times when I have my daughter back. Clean, she's a loving, giving, spiritual young woman I am so proud of. ON CRANK, she becomes inhuman. It is like a death, and I have had to grieve for her way too many times.

Think crank's a great drug? More power to you. Just keep away from me, please.

[ProdigalSon]

^^^^^^I do not know what to say. Ive seen many people go down hill from meth. Thats the stone cold reason I wont touch it or be around it or deal with people strung out on it. And you fucking know that a little habit of that shit turns into full blown addiction in a week flat. IT, I wish you the best with your daughter. Hope she is doing well

[HeidiW]

Meth. is horrible shit, no doubt. I'm lucky I never blew myself up behind that shit. Yeah, I lost my 10 year old son Colin PERMANENTLY behind meth. Opiates are the only way to go, with a little yay now and then..

Irishtart, good for you posting what you did. Some people need to hear about the awful, inevitable bullshit that happens as a direct of result of methamphetamine abuse. I'm glad to hear your daughter is better now, help her stay clean, as I'm sure you well know that relapse is high with meth.

[Boudica]

I had expected to check back in here this morning and find myself getting slammed for that post. Heidi, Pil, Thank You. That's 'bout all there's left to say. And Heidi, my heart aches for the loss you''ve suffered. When you lose custody of your child, that's a wake up call so terribly painful there are no words anyone can say to "make it better". But I DO understand, and I do have you in my heart. Your experience with this shit just hits too close to home for me not to feel the pain you hold. No wonder we all like opiates. Stops the body pain, blocks the emtional pain. And when is the last time anybody heard of someone killing there entire family while high on opiates? Pot? Need I say more? Think not.

[AWOL]

Nobody is going to slam you for posting a true story. Thank you for your tale.

[Boudica]

Thank you for that reminder , dv. Almost every person I've "met" at this board has raised, jumped and cleared the bar by at least 100 feet. I will never be faithless at this board of extremely fine, caring people. Promise made, promise will be kept.

[Overdoze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegLdHfUsoY

WOW^^^

[superman]

I wish i took a before and after. see before i was a gangly little 18yr old. and after i was a tweaked up, muscle cultivating 19yr old with a 6 pack and all.

Methamphetamine, when used right is not a dangerous drug. It's great for changing habits, eating right, getting into shape, excelling in school and work, coping with stress, doing housework, you name it.

except for a couple reminders of why meth is not good in large amounts, the shit has never done me wrong. I think the problem here is that in places where anti-drug efforts are intense, meth abuse soars and problems ensue. but if you look at places with more lax drug law enforcement, you will not see these issues. At least that's how it looks to me.

Anyone else lived in both types of places that can comment on this observation?

[blackdog]

I wish i took a before and after. see before i was a gangly little 18yr old. and after i was a tweaked up, muscle cultivating 19yr old with a 6 pack and all.

Methamphetamine, when used right is not a dangerous drug. It's great for changing habits, eating right, getting into shape, excelling in school and work, coping with stress, doing housework, you name it.

except for a couple reminders of why meth is not good in large amounts, the shit has never done me wrong. I think the problem here is that in places where anti-drug efforts are intense, meth abuse soars and problems ensue. but if you look at places with more lax drug law enforcement, you will not see these issues. At least that's how it looks to me.

Anyone else lived in both types of places that can comment on this observation?

geez superman if'n meth is all that great for ya and can help ya come out of your shell good for you .you sure musta been a basketcase to pay homage to a shit drug as that! i mean
if that was the case how come my school shrink never put anybody on the shit?have fun! nothing personal cuz?
dawgg,

[OxyContinuously]

geez superman if'n meth is all that great for ya and can help ya come out of your shell good for you .you sure musta been a basketcase to pay homage to a shit drug as that! i mean
if that was the case how come my school shrink never put anybody on the shit?have fun! nothing personal cuz?
dawgg,

well they sure didnt put people on meth but how many do you know on Adderall? or Ritalin/Concerta for that matter. Different animal, same idea,pharmacologically.

later folks

Oxy

[Curio]

I don't recommend to anyone else what I did, but let me share this with folks here and see what you think:
Back in 1996, at a time when my life had some measure of balance, I made a conscious choice to start insufflating meth for two major reasons: repeated sinus blockages and weight gain due to treating the sinus problems.
I have had sinusitis resistant to all medical procedures, including two back to back "roto-rooter" surgeries...I continually had to be on antibiotics, including two separate incidents lasting several weeks that required a PICC line(semi-permanent IV access/port) and IV antibiotics.

Problems with blockages, and pain continued even after each surgery to OPEN UP my sinus cavities...I figured people got holes in their septums and sinuses as a side effect, so why not just cut to the chase and "burn" the hole I needed to breath through without doing the doctor, surgeries, file bankruptcy over medical bills route again? I actually wanted to use cocaine, but was unable to get any....and I found that the use of the meth would damage the nerve endings enough that I still got that same pain-relieving effect if I used it frequently enough.

The extra weight was gained from having to go through two surgeries in one year, being sicker than a dog almost 24/7, plus snacks all the time attempting to stave off nausea from repeated rounds of regular and IV antibiotics due to resistant staph infection, two infections became life-threatening after the first surgery....and all the steroids I had to take that were supposed to prevent scar tissue from forming but never did anything but make things worse....I still got the scar tissue, and then gained 30lbs in a year, developed terrible acne, etc...yea doc, I feel MUCH better now, thanks so much!

That being said...I was employed full time, single, responsible for taking care of my own bills, etc., so naturally, I had to set limits...I woke each morning, had one liter of bottled water, then a slim fast, then did ONE SINGLE LINE of crystal, then went to work....at noon, I had a slim fast, ONE MORE LITER of water, one more line of crystal... and NO MORE METH after lunchtime....if it was a Friday night then I might do an afternoon bump...or if I went out to the bar after work and ended up drinking and felt I was getting too drunk to drive, etc.. I would do another bump...but usually I just drank Pepsi at the bar and sang karaoke (don't laugh!) and stayed "alert" while I watched people make total asses of themselves being drunk in public...

Presently, it seems the worst of the sinus problems are past, plus I relocated to a drier climate and they've come out with much better allergy medications that prevent flare-ups of that sinus tissue in the first place.

BTW: I called it the Jenny CRANK diet...lol...

[Overdoze]

Jenny crank diet LOL!!!