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Seedy
02-17-2007, 11:51 PM
I read a while back that an herb used in Ayurvedic medicine, ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) has been reported to reduce opiate tolerance. A couple of weeks back I stumbled across some dried ashwagandha root at an Indian food store (great places!) for a reasonable price & decided to buy & try some.

After taking slightly more than the recomended dose for a few days my monster tolerance really does seemed to have dropped. Today, after doing a bit more reading up on the stuff (which is a sedative itself) I decided to take a bigger dose with my regular opiate dose and I've got to say, I haven't fely this kind of buzz for a while. :)

Here's some more random info on ashwagandha. This herb definately has potential:

Today, Ayurvedic practitioners use this dietary supplement to enhance mental and physical performance, improve learning ability, and decrease stress and fatigue.(2 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn114938)) What’s more, ashwagandha is a general tonic that can be used in stressful situations, especially insomnia, restlessness, or when you’re feeling overworked. Studies have indicated that ashwagandha possesses anti-inflammatory, antitumor, antistress, antioxidant, immune modulating, rejuvenating properties, and more.(3 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109920), 4 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109921), 5 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn100988), 6 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109922), 7 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109923), 8 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn100995), 9 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn113550)) Scientists have explored several causes for ashwagandha’s soothing and medicinal properties. First, studies suggest that the herb may increase the red blood cell count, helping needed oxygen to get to the tissues.(8 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn100995)) Mulitple animal studies have indicated that ashwagandha may also enhance various elements of the immune system such as the number of white blood cells.(10 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109926)) Ashwagandha has also boosted the immune system after cyclophosphamide chemotherapy.(11 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109927))
Ashwagandha is rich in iron, which contributes to increased red blood cell count. Additionally, scientists have discovered that ashwagandha contains significant amounts of the amino acids arginine and ornithine. These amino acids are needed for proper nervous system function.(12 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn101011))
A very small study of 6 individuals with mild type 2 diabetes and 6 other individuals with mildly elevated cholesterol were treated with ashwagandha for 30 days. A decrease in blood glucose was noted as was a decrease in cholesterol and triglycerides.(13 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109932))
Ashwagandha has shown promise in other areas. An animal study indicated that ashwagandha may stimulate thyroid function by enhancing serum T4 concentration.(14 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn109919)) One study reported that men who used the herb enjoyed higher sexual performance.(15 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn100998)) Also, ashwagandha may be useful in opiate withdrawal and addiction treatment.(16 (http://content.nhiondemand.com/psv/monoAll-style.asp?objID=100037&ctype=ds&mtyp=1#fn100975))

edit: holy crap, it seems I'm a junky now. scary!

HistoryofMadness
02-18-2007, 12:10 AM
thanks for the info seedy character... i've been wanting to get into this stuff for sometime...

can you post trip reports/bioassy? or more details about the effects with different things, and time passing etc?

saying you haven't had a buzz like this in a while is good to know, but is that good for you? is it an opie buzz?

just curious b/c i wanna try it

Seedy
02-18-2007, 01:04 AM
^^ It just potentiated the opiate buzz, maybe with an extra bit of mood enhancement / decrease in anxiety. No extra sedation. It's now been 5 hours since a standard dose of seed tea & I'm still buzzing. I'll keep you updated.

Seedy
02-18-2007, 01:47 PM
Also had a great nights sleep (got to sleep straight away, which I can never do) with some crazy vivid dreams.

AWOL
02-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Did you have any nauseau that you noticed?

jacky
02-20-2007, 11:10 AM
I have been consuming this herb for about 5 years, a couple times I week.

the extracts taste good in chocolate milk, a complimentary bitterness.

I think I need to take higher doses to use it for detox/reduction.

euphoria2002
02-20-2007, 07:26 PM
I just bought some Ashwagandha recently... mfc'd by NOW foods. Not exactly cheap at $18 for 90 caps 450mgs apiece. The plan is to take a tagamet, wait 60 mins, then take two of these with my regular dose of oxys.

Hopefully, there will be a noticeable improvement in effects. If not, it was worth a try.:)

Euphoria

Seedy
02-20-2007, 07:35 PM
I just bought some Ashwagandha recently... mfc'd by NOW foods. Not exactly cheap at $18 for 90 caps 450mgs apiece. The plan is to take a tagamet, wait 60 mins, then take two of these with my regular dose of oxys.

Hopefully, there will be a noticeable improvement in effects. If not, it was worth a try.:)

Euphoria

Are they an extract? If so that sounds like an ok price. I'd advise taking more than 2 for potentiation but then again you never know how strong they're going to be. How many is advised to take daily?

Oh, DV - no nausia. This was on top of a maintenence dose of seed tea which would have barely got me good. I was slightly euphoric, just above that baseline. Found some poppies today so gonna try it with a proper dose & see what happens. Always hard to guage potentiation with pods though.

Euphoricgirl
02-21-2007, 07:52 AM
I take exactly what you described on a daily basis. I also take something called Neurozyme, which is a supercritical mental clarity herb, its has in it, Omega, rosemary, ginger, chamomille, tumeric, sage, clover, ginkgo, gotu kola, ashwagandha, cats claw, bacopin, peony, holy basil, red wine it in. Works great to. Also might want to try Bacopa. Just my two cents.