phytoextractum's bali

[greenfox]

OK it FINALLY came and I'll say this: they are VERY good about things. The shipping got screwed up so I have a $40.00 credit (wow) AND I only ordered 5g of the fortified Bali, they sent me 8. Started out with a g. cold brewed,.. 10 minutes later little or nothing. Just did another 2g in hot tea w/ lemon + honey, 5-10 minutes later (now) still nothjing. Am I doing somehting wrong, or is it the subs? I've had ONE very low dose of subs (2mg) yesterday night, and that's IT! So what's up? What am I doing wrong? thanks.

[I-Nod]

Sometimes it takes upto a half hour, 45mins. I'd chill for a few and see. Don't know what you ordered, but I've heard the saying "less is more" very often w/ kratom.
Very cool about the store credit too! Can't beat that, heh.

[tptptp]

You didnt give much info on the product, if its straight up commercial leaf and your an H user you're gonna need alot of the stuff, tis its straight up leaf that dose aint shit.

[greenfox]

You didnt give much info on the product, if its straight up commercial leaf and your an H user you're gonna need alot of the stuff, tis its straight up leaf that dose aint shit.

it's the fortified bali leaf extract (under extracts) it's kicking a little bit I may take more in a bit. I didn't really brew it so... it's only been like an hour. Does food destroy the buzz/?

I mean if you don't brew it with tea ie just stick a thingy in the microwave and dump the powder in I'm assuming that's more like eating it.. how long does eating it take? Is it the same ? I'm kinda new to the whole kratom thing. RIght now it's been like 3 hours since first dose, two since second, one since third.. I'm getting waves of warmth no real euphoria.. thinkjing it could be subs or just the plain ol' fact that I ate it. d unno.

[tptptp]

it's the fortified bali leaf extract (under extracts) it's kicking a little bit I may take more in a bit. I didn't really brew it so... it's only been like an hour. Does food destroy the buzz/?

I mean if you don't brew it with tea ie just stick a thingy in the microwave and dump the powder in I'm assuming that's more like eating it.. how long does eating it take? Is it the same ? I'm kinda new to the whole kratom thing. RIght now it's been like 3 hours since first dose, two since second, one since third.. I'm getting waves of warmth no real euphoria.. thinkjing it could be subs or just the plain ol' fact that I ate it. d unno.

You should START to feel kratom kick in NO LATER than 30 minutes after eating 10 minutes after making it into Tea

By the way extracts suck

[orchidfanatic]

I am a daily PT user and 10 gm is the dose for me .. made into a tea you will DEFF feel it after 45 mintues.. depending on your tolerance .. you might need more than 5 or 10 grams of kratom tea or the source is not good..

[HistoryofMadness]

don't wait an hour to redose, that's too long. if you took a sub, that could be it. if you've been on an H bender, you might want to give all opies a rest today and try again tomorrow.

i wouldn't take less then 7g in a single dose.

are you brewing and straining? you should just chug the grit. just take small sips and have a good cold chaser with a strong flavor.

i have seen someone with a high tolerance do a very good dose and not feel it very much. you may need taper w/dxm or something, then potentiate with some of our fav's. that's the beauty of kratom, your tolerance goes down too.

[greenfox]

Check it:

http://www.phytoextractum.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1&zenid=a70207f5f54e4539e65ceaee897373ef (http://www.phytoextractum.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1&zenid=a70207f5f54e4539e65ceaee897373ef)

ok.... how good is their Bali? I've ordered some extracts from them before, not too satisfied. People said stay away from the extracts, so now I'm just going with some raw Bali. Reports? Dosage instructions? THanks in advance.

[HistoryofMadness]

haven't had that strain yet, getting some soon possibly...

the resin is really good this time around.. still got some sittin here, very pleased...

wish i could help on the bali

[greenfox]

s'ok im sure ill find out soon enough

[tptptp]

Just try it, im imagine kratom is kratom different strains i cant imagine being hugely different. Works different for different folks anyways

[greenfox]

Just try it, im imagine kratom is kratom different strains i cant imagine being hugely different. Works different for different folks anyways

i had to search around for this since it got moved HoM btw- it wasn't a double post. The first thread was about the extract, this was about the leaf.

[OxyContinuously]

Yeah, greenfox, I'm with tp on this. If you are a heavy user, you probably just need a little more. Also, it *does* take up to an hour to reach full effects like I-nod was saying, so that could be a reason too, you know? Phytoextractum is cool, they have excellent turnaround and cust. service. jsut my 2 cents.

later bro



Oxy

[HistoryofMadness]

i had to search around for this since it got moved HoM btw- it wasn't a double post. The first thread was about the extract, this was about the leaf.

hey i just merged them... they were both already here... and the dates at the top of the posts should clarify what you're saying...

and if you wanna find something you posted, just go to your drop-down list (quick links) and view your profile, and then click on 'all posts made by greendragon oh i mean dragqueenie oh i mean greenfox

[greenfox]

hey i just merged them... they were both already here... and the dates at the top of the posts should clarify what you're saying...

and if you wanna find something you posted, just go to your drop-down list (quick links) and view your profile, and then click on 'all posts made by greendragon oh i mean dragqueenie oh i mean greenfox

u luv me u know u do.

[RR1203]

Check it:

http://www.phytoextractum.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1&zenid=a70207f5f54e4539e65ceaee897373ef (http://www.phytoextractum.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1&zenid=a70207f5f54e4539e65ceaee897373ef)

ok.... how good is their Bali? I've ordered some extracts from them before, not too satisfied. People said stay away from the extracts, so now I'm just going with some raw Bali. Reports? Dosage instructions? THanks in advance.

I got their Bali crushed leaf and I'm not so impressed. You have to drink a shit load of tea to get any true effects and it takes forever to prepare this stuff. So not worth it. I would try the powder and just eat it! Worth the extra few bucks and less of a pain!

I had great luck w/ Jennymacs.com stem & vein blend, as well with the 15x. I'm about to try her Bali powder, so we'll see how it goes. I also tried kratomking.com Thai: green and red. Didn't like it much and didn't get any effects from it. So far, only Jennymacs.com has produced anything worth buying for me that is!

Good luck.

[Boudica]

I've been experimenting w/kratom for about 2 mos. now and I've found that different folks get different results from different kratoms. I've ordered the Bali crushed leaf from Phyto. 3 times now, because it just has worked quite well for me. As RR said, the prep is kind of a hassle, but worth it to me because it really does help to supplement my pain meds with. I've had to use alot of it tho, about 25 gms. or so at a time, but their prices are pretty good . The more you buy, the better the price. From Jennymacs I like the 7% full spectrum extract, I just whip in into a bowl of whole milk w/a little cream and it goes down really smooth. Also have had good results with her 5-in1 Blend. I'm still playing around with different stuff, and will get some Thai leaf from the new vendor Urbantealeaf.com this week. So far, the crushed leaf has worked best for me, and will let you know re: the above. Check them out, their prices are good and communication was fast and curteous. Phyto. and Jennymac both have outstanding customer service.

[greenfox]

I've been experimenting w/kratom for about 2 mos. now and I've found that different folks get different results from different kratoms. I've ordered the Bali crushed leaf from Phyto. 3 times now, because it just has worked quite well for me. As RR said, the prep is kind of a hassle, but worth it to me because it really does help to supplement my pain meds with. I've had to use alot of it tho, about 25 gms. or so at a time, but their prices are pretty good . The more you buy, the better the price. From Jennymacs I like the 7% full spectrum extract, I just whip in into a bowl of whole milk w/a little cream and it goes down really smooth. Also have had good results with her 5-in1 Blend. I'm still playing around with different stuff, and will get some Thai leaf from the new vendor Urbantealeaf.com this week. So far, the crushed leaf has worked best for me, and will let you know re: the above. Check them out, their prices are good and communication was fast and curteous. Phyto. and Jennymac both have outstanding customer service.


well this happens to be on the way, so whats yer magic prep method? WOULD LOVE TO KNOW!!! :)

[Boudica]

This is what I've been doing: Dump about 25 gms ( about a scant 1 cup measure) in to a med. saucepan. Add water to about 1/3 full. Bring to a gentle boil, turn down the heat to low and cook for 30 min. Keep your eye on the pot, check every 5 or 10 min. to make sure the water doesn't boil out. Take it off the heat and strain. I use one of those wire mesh strainers with a regular size coffee filter in it. Let it cool enough so you won't burn your hands and gently squeeze the liquid from the leaves. Dump them back in the pan, and repeat the process. After the second cook and drain, combine both liquids in the pan, and gently boil till reduced to about a 1/2 cup. If you want to kick it up a notch and have any of the extracts or resin around, add a spoonfull to the hot brew and whisk in in. Let it cool enough to drink, pour into a glass, knock it back and chase with whole milk (I add some half and half), as the milk will take the taste right out of your mouth and coat your tummy. I haven't had any nausea with this method, and it's been consistantly working quite well. Let us know how you do with yours!

[suboxoneeater]

I hate kratom, the serotonin qualities make everthing boring as hell. If it hit the mu receptors without touching my serotonin it would be a good drug. But i know it raises serotonin, because SHIT IS BORING.

Ill get off my soapbox now.

[HistoryofMadness]

I got their Bali crushed leaf and I'm not so impressed. You have to drink a shit load of tea to get any true effects and it takes forever to prepare this stuff. So not worth it. I would try the powder and just eat it! Worth the extra few bucks and less of a pain!


you can powder your own kratom leaves... just put the leaves in a coffee bean grinder and viola! powdered.. i like to handle all aspects of preperation, plus it saves $...

as for making tea, screw it... just dump the powder in a liquid... you couldn't do that with 25g (wow irishtart that's quite a pile!)...

if you make tea w/25g, you could probably 'just' encapsulate and swallow 10 2g caps... sure it will take a few minutes but its a helluva lot easier than making all that tea!

[I-Nod]

I hate kratom, the serotonin qualities make everthing boring as hell. If it hit the mu receptors without touching my serotonin it would be a good drug. But i know it raises serotonin, because SHIT IS BORING.

Ill get off my soapbox now.
Explain more about kratom and serotonin, if you don't mind. Pure curiosity.

[greenfox]

you can powder your own kratom leaves... just put the leaves in a coffee bean grinder and viola! powdered.. i like to handle all aspects of preperation, plus it saves $...

as for making tea, screw it... just dump the powder in a liquid... you couldn't do that with 25g (wow irishtart that's quite a pile!)...

if you make tea w/25g, you could probably 'just' encapsulate and swallow 10 2g caps... sure it will take a few minutes but its a helluva lot easier than making all that tea!

OK now I'm confused. Tea or eat the powder straight? Wat the hell? :)

[Boudica]

:) From all the threads I've read re: kratom (and I did read them all before I started experimenting), it's like the old saying goes "different strokes for different folks". For me, I already have to swallow so many pills every day I probably rattle when I'm shaken. The methods I've tried were the results of combining others' ideas/experiences, finally landing on what works best for me and am glad to have found it. But remember, that's "me". Like I said earlier, it seems that you really have to play with this stuff, and if you find that you can encapsulate and swallow it, GREAT!!! It's the one method I've not tried yet, but think I should give it a shot. That's the nice thing about crushed leaf: it's much cheaper and you can change it's form by powdering it yourself. Let me know it you try this and if it works for you.