almost a year to the day

[bi11i]

on the bup, whether it subutex, suboxone, buprenex, whatever. i gotta say, my life is healthier and happier than if i would've done the last year on smack, but certain things are definitely out of order. my sex drive is down, my appetite is fucked, my energy level is of course WAY down there, and my patience and passion for life are both nill.

maybe time for a switchover? i miss that ride....

[Peripat]

Who knows, bi11i? Heroin fucked with my sex drive, my menstrual cycles, and of course my finances. The first is no longer a problem as I am celibate, but it continues to screw with the last even though I'm simply a chipper, these days.

Anyone else notice that their tolerance just skyrockets after six or seven (or eight or nine) years on (and off) the gear?

[1badrabbit]

on the bup, whether it subutex, suboxone, buprenex,whatever. i gotta say, my life is healthier and happier than if iwould've done the last year on smack, but certain things are definitelyout of order. my sex drive is down, my appetite is fucked, my energylevel is of course WAY down there, and my patience and passion for lifeare both nill.

maybe time for a switchover? i miss that ride....

Sub definitely fucks with my energy, appitite, etc. too.

[bi11i]

i'd hit the ibogaine in a heartbeat, if there was a program here for that. in fact, i'd probably make a run for the methadone if it was local and I knew I could get back into the sub program.

there's something to be said about switching from opiates to not. i think it was burroughs that had a good schpeel about the process, although I'd never find it in this stack of books here - i bet jacky knows what i'm talking about....

[shaunclo]

Billie, I am glad to hear its almost been a year. I have been on suboxone since May of last year and I gotta say I still had a hard time changing from H to the sub's. It was a change I needed though. You said a few posts back that you were on the sub's for only a week? I started at 16mg's and am now at 4 mg's a day. If I dont take my 4mgs' by atleast 3:00 that day, I start withdrawing. Is it all in my head? does anyone else feel this? I know the buprenorphine sticks to those receptors like fuckin super glue, but seriously I dont feel right until I take my dose......I wont be able to reply till monday.....but anybody that feels like me please let me hear your experience......thanks

[1badrabbit]

I think a good deal is mental because I have a friend who is also on that didn't do near as much dope as I did and she gets wd's long before I do. But she are also much more anxious and stuff. Anyway I too had a hard time transitioning to sub. Mostly because I just didn't wanna quit doing heroin and didn't for a while. I was on 24mg per day and I slowly tapered down to 2mg. Then I just stopped about 3 days ago, and the only symptoms I have had are mild chills and mild pain.

[bi11i]

you know, i had that same feeling - like if i didn't dose before 3 would be sick. i'd also noticed strangely that once in awhile I'll be so busy that I'll miss a day. i wouldn't notice too much physically. must be a build-up...? of course i'm on 40mg's day so I've plenty in there as reserve....
I started at 16mg's and am now at 4 mg's a day. If I dont take my 4mgs' by atleast 3:00 that day, I start withdrawing. Is it all in my head? does anyone else feel this?
You said a few posts back that you were on the sub's for only a week?
maybe sub's - was on buprenex before that....

[deepinsyn]

Wow, peripat I'm sorry to hear about your sex drive, but to be honest I've been making my rounds trying to get info on how H has affected folks Sex life, not because I use or used, but my ex uses and it fucked him up....but it did do a number on my head...for a long time now I thought maybe it was something wrong with me, like he just didn't find me attractive anymore or shit like that....but I see that perhaps it wasn't me at all......Thats too bad, for him......I still am Madly in love with him....though.....I realize, he's got a new Love H.:(
Respectfully,

[COLONELWAYNE]

I have'nt a clue as to what a heroin addict goes through in withdrawl.If it's anywhere close to the feelings of withdrawl from 40-120 mg of oc's a day after 4 or 5 long years of use, my heart goes out to him or her.The hardest thing I had to overcome was the depression.That" crash to the rock bottom feeling" that hits you shortly after you stop using and stays with you I guess,"forever." Seriously it dosen't,just seems like it.The clicker for me,the two things I acredit most with my on going recovery and change from feeling guilty and worthless (because of the money I blew and the years I missed in my kids life)to a half ass positive outlook is a new found faith in GOD and a combination of buproprian 150-300mg a day and methylphenidate and they have to be taken together everyday at the same time.It's not an instant fix, nothing is.But within a couple of weeks my life had turned from suicidal tendencies to doing things with my family again and to actually getting all this halfway into perspective,to a point I can control it again.Just for the record,most doctors probably won't buy this combination for treatment.Give'em HELL.P.S If you have high blood pressure or seizure activity it probably is'nt a good idea.