jacky
01-06-2005, 05:45 PM
I having been thinking about getting an Ibogaine experience under my belt. both for the psychoactive/spiritual effects and for the "cure" aspect of this drug. I am not talking about treatment at a clinic, rather a group rate type of trip to mexico or canada. I think Mexico would be preferable. a group of individuals could rent a small villa for a week, and have ibogaine mailed from canada or europe to a p.o.box rented in advance. then they could administer the drug to themselves with other likeminded supporters to aid them. the drug is supposed to leave metabolites in the system of the user for weeks or even months after the experience that support abstinence from exogenous opioids. the drug is supposed to potently potentiate opiates as well. one method I wonder about is a gradual dosing of ibogaine instead of the massive dose approach. that is: if the drug leaves metabolites in the system for even days at a time , one could possibly build these supportive metabolites up gradually , rather than overnight. the opiate in question could be tapered off of at an increased rate, due to the potentiation effects of the ibogaine. this method may be more tolerable for some individuals, and given the dangerous nature of both opiates and ibogaine , could be safer for some individuals. I myself would want to experience the psychoactive effects of a full blown entheogenic dose, laying on a beach at night vibrating under ibogaines effects could be a potentially beautiful experience. I am not knocking Ibogaine clinics of course, but I am far from able to afford that experience. i also want to experience the whole root, and not a standardized extract. I figure a person could easily do this trip by flying to san diego, walking into mexico and renting a car and drive down to the baja, picking up the pre delivered ibogaine package in Ensenada. Doing this as a group of people I could see the price being potentially under a thousand bucks per person, especially if tents were brought along for those who are not dosed up, or who do not mind sleeping outside. with ibogaine being legal in canada and mexico and some european countries I am looking for user/experience reports detailing the effects, it does not appear to be a very popular ethnobotanical, or people just arnt fancy to writing about their experiences. the drug is effective in low doses as a stimulant, that alone makes me expect to hear of different types of approach to the use of the plant on the internet. the plant has been commercially available in canada for several years now, and still erowids experience vaults are devoid of many experience reports. who is using this plant? are there many opiophiles experimenting with detox with this plant? or is the use predominantly those seeking spiritual/thrillseeking experiences? what does the drug feel like used as a moderate stimulant? how about mixing ibogaine with codeine to potentiate the effects as a type of maintenance regimine? in canada and mexico this approach might be cheaper than buprenorphine. this approach also might lend to greater control of side-effects than dosing with a singular active ingredient. many many questions...... a great book on Ibogaine is " The Ibogaine Story" staten island project , autonomedia.