Posting of Suppliers -vs- Illegal Suppliers

[bi11i]

I've changed our notice a bit to kind of clarify our policy on the posting of suppliers. Being that we obviously have an entire discussion group dedicated to the posting of LEGAL suppliers, it seems silly to add a header to each page saying exactly the opposite.

Opiophile.org has no problem with the posting of legitimate and legal sources for medication - what we'd like to avoid is the posting of menus with an AOL contact in some foreign country.

"Define legal?", you ask - A legal supplier in our book means pretty much any operation/business/site that is accessible to the general public and accepts major credit cards.

Opiophile.org is not in the business of policing right and wrong, although we're definitely interested in your experiences with purchasing from ANY online pharmacy. Posting your reviews and a link to the site you've ordered from could help someone else from making the same mistake, or from making a mistake in ordering from somewhere else. The best way to increase your reputation points and power is by posting confirmed and legitimate sources for review. While some of you may not yet meet the requirements needed to leave reputation for others, reputation can certainly be left for you (and will!)

Please keep your post to the point and without intent. There are other forums to discuss dosage and experience.

Please take a minute to complete the attached poll. We're trying to decide on how to present the 'Supply & Resource' forums. Should we keep them publicly viewed like the rest of the board, or should we require membership and email activation for the viewing of our Supply & Resource forums?

[SomniGod]

I agree with the the majority. Although security could possibly be an issue this way... maybe opening it to all would not implicate members?!?!?! Any comments here?


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[bi11i]

I'm thinking the best way to handle this is to make the 'Supply & Resource' forums joinable. Meaning that you only see them if you 'opt in' just like the Junkylife forums. This would keep the posts from becoming useless, however at the same time leave it open to those that want to look a little deeper.

I could also just code it like the whole board was before - you can't view them unless you're a registered, verified member, or even adding to it a minimum post and reputation count - what do you guys think? It must ultimately be viewable by all, even if it takes some work to get there. An 'equal opportunity' forum or so to speak...;)

Ideas?

[kramorph]

I reckon for members only, but then dirty dogs would become members anyway, so whats the dif.Make it free for all.

[bi11i]

the only would be the search engines exploiting the info... i'm yet to iron this out - still working on it.

will be free for all, regardless...

[kramorph]

Anyone got things to supply me, pm me, I have acetic anhydride sitting in the dark waiting to react,lol.cheers all.Can get boron tribromide perfectly legally here, only catch is it costs AUD$500 for 100ml, dearer than H?

[Juicy fruit]

How much codeine can you convert to morphine with 100ml BBr3?, sounds like it itd be cheaper to buy H.

[rebo]

Kramorph ,do you know how to change glacial acetic acid to acetic anhydride ,please take into consideration my chemistry sucks.

[kramorph]

From what I can recall, HEAT THE FUCK OUT OF IT. As far as I know if you heat glacial acetic acid it will "join together" giving off water(H2O), and leaving acetic anhydride.But I would assume the acetic acid would boil first so some sort of special apparatus might be needed.I think it is easier to get AA, than to try and make it. But there is probably a catalyst or something that helps.But anyway it would have to be heated above 100C to drive off all the water.

[asaqwert]

just fyi, there are two ways to make Acetic Anhydride

first, you can take glacial acetic acid (pure acetic acid) and boil it at 800 degress celsius, assumedly in some sort of chamber which will allow the water to boil out, but keep the acetic anhydride in

also, the whole point IS to boil the acetic acid, so you want that, it isn't something you need to worry about. you aren't going to get your acetic acid evaporating, well, not at lower temps anyways. at 800 cels, i'm not sure, but i doubt it to be honest, because if it evaporated, and the water did, then you would be left with nothing, and no way to separate the two, unless u used two temps, in which case you couldn't do it at 800. i know the process is 800 cels, so i'm pretty sure you just have to let the steam boil off and wait until there is no more, the container has to basically isolate the acetic acid/anhydride from the heat source, as though not to light it on fire

secondly, you can do it by completely some sort of chemical reaction. i can't even honestly remember exactly what it is, but it requires chemicals equally as difficult (or moreso) to obtain than acetic anhydride itself. i forget the actual reaction, but i'm sure you can search google and find it right quickly

now, a question for you all. does anybody know how to get, and how legal it is to get, acetic anhydride in canada? i would like to use it for legal purposes only, of course, but i cannot find it, nor do i have any idea where i'd look. i'm not asking for sources here, but i would like to know if it is legal, and if so, what type of place i would purchase it at, and would i need to explain myself in anyway, or could i just buy it, because of the small quantity (i would only really want, at this point, 100-500ml of the stuff)

thanks for the help, and hope i was helpful also

[caesee]

B1ll1...for the "supplier" part, and for new members some site's require you to write a small "essay" of why u want to join the forums, to a certian extent...this can route people of might not be here for the wrong reasons...ect...just an idea "the lycaeum forums" u must do this to register...i was allowed to my buddy was not for some reason they pick and choose there memebers...

[antigonemuse]

I think it should be viewable to registered members, what you said about web searches inclines me to feel that way. I see no reason those interested in this site would not want to register. (It is addictive in itself)

Anyhow, that my opiated babble :speechles

[exitwound]

An extremely good set of guidelines Bi11i....I'll do my best to help keep them enforced with the lightest possible touch!