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SobrietyBinge
02-03-2007, 02:03 AM
before I start this I want to be clear that this isn't a macho self-congratulatory opiate tolerance cry for disdain.

swim is not a frequent opiate user. swim has been a severely reclusive person for the last 3-5 years of his life with major social anxiety since childhood.

swim recently acquired a 100mcg duragesic fent patch that was three months shy of its expiration date. swim decided to smoke this fent patch on foil--cautiously. two other people decided to give it a try with him. these two were completely floored after 1-2 hits and vomited repeatedly afterward. one had consumed some alcohol, the other had not. Both were advised that this was (as far as swim knew) the most potent opiate there was and that this was potentially dangerous if they did not take care. both of these other people did enjoy the experience, although one wished he had not done partaken before a party.

swim was frustrated because he was not getting the same results as these other two. swim repeatedly smoked drops of fent from around 1am to 8am, exhausting the patch. before this time swim definitely was smoking the stuff correctly. swim had the straw low over the foil and inhaled consistently as the drop burned away, there were some pronounced effects: a dizzy kind of head rush after each session followed by a calm sense that distant noises had dropped away and a strong but not overwhelming sense of drowsiness. it was not until suddenly around 6am that swim had a breakthrough of euphoria after smoking that continued to happen after each subsequent smoke. swim finished the fent patch in fewer than 24 hours, only sharing perhaps four drops with others, never experiencing any sort of nausea.

swim concludes that this may be evidence to suggest an irregularity in swim's brain chemistry (or maybe lungs for that matter, swim is not a doctor) but swim can't ask his doctor for obvious reasons. Swim is hopeful that perhaps this experience could shed light on some of swim's lifelong psychiatric peculiarities. Swim wishes to add he takes a popular SSRI as well as a very low dose of a certain anti-psychotic mood stabilizer prescribed (incorrectly it seems [presumably off-label]) to treat depression.

any insights graciously appreciated.

nick
02-03-2007, 04:40 AM
Sorry,but when I saw the thread title one word went through my mind-trouble.

SobrietyBinge
02-03-2007, 06:12 AM
could you elaborate?

nick
02-03-2007, 06:29 AM
With pleasure.High tolerence means higher doses(more dope which=$$$$$$$$$.So unless you're very rich,as I say trouble.

Some people do have a very high natural tolerence and they have my sympathy.

SuperJunky
02-03-2007, 08:47 AM
I have a higher tolerance naturaly than most of the people I get high w/ to. I thought the same exact thing and used it as an exscuse to do opates, thinking I was correcting a natural endorphin deficiency etc. I dont think this is true anymore, and its not a good idea to head for the drugs w/ that type of mindset. The mind will play strange tricks on yeah. Its possible your meds interfered w/ it, every one reacts to every thing differantly. Dont make too much of it, some people just are natural hardheads. I suppose this could be just as much as a result of your body producing more endorphins than normal thus you need to raise the levels higher than most to notice it. And regaurdless of wether your endorphin defiient or not if you keep using you will be, and when you stop things are going to be worse than they were. Just my 2 cents.

alowishus
02-03-2007, 10:26 AM
Sorry,but when I saw the thread title one word went through my mind-trouble.

My too.

I couldn't, no I could not, get through my begining days of drug abuse and near fatal things and nasty places and worse people if I wasn't getting SOOO high, of course then it all went down hill from there, and those days when I actually felt just a little something of a buzz was like winning the lotto.

Of course I've found if I think about my buzz, it helps it. Well did.

Dolomiti
02-03-2007, 12:47 PM
This reminds me of something I have been wondering about:

What does a low natural tolerance mean?

SWIM, I know they're not lying, but they enjoy the buzz of just say 3-7mg of hydro. Even after taking it almost every day for 3-6 weeks. 50mg of darvocet is a happy dose for them as well, I remember SWIM saying they would do half of a 100mg pill. Oral ingestion for either substance.

nick
02-03-2007, 12:52 PM
This reminds me of something I have been wondering about:

What does a low natural tolerance mean?

SWIM, I know they're not lying, but they enjoy the buzz of just say 3-7mg of hydro. Even after taking it almost every day for 3-6 weeks. 50mg of darvocet is a happy dose for them as well, I remember SWIM saying they would do half of a 100mg pill. Oral ingestion for either substance.

A Low natural tolerence means DANGER.Be careful-two in the arm is better than one in the ground.

jacky
02-03-2007, 01:11 PM
I have read that only about 10% of the population as a whole gets euphoria from opiates.

many other people cant stand them. the side effects are too much.

perhaps 10% of the population is opioid deficient, and the euphoria is mostly relief.

Dolomiti
02-03-2007, 01:49 PM
I have read that only about 10% of the population as a whole gets euphoria from opiates.

many other people cant stand them. the side effects are too much.

perhaps 10% of the population is opioid deficient, and the euphoria is mostly relief.

That's probably them trying it once and not wanting to do it again because they got sick. Figures though,.. seems really common to get sick from the first few tries. Nausea isn't exactly something to want to come back to! Ugh.
Is there a particular percentage that gets no effect from opiates at all? Like 1-5%? I'm on faint memory. Maybe it wasn't opiates, but rather just codiene. And then there is also a percentage of those with an allergy.


nick, you bring up a useful point... I'll be sure to try to make it clear to SWIM. When SWIM is at zero/low tolerance, even just 10mg of hydro usually causes too much nausea. SWIM tried a really low methadone dose before and just got nausea-near vomiting. Could be particularily dangerous if they try different drugs, especially with the needle!

nick
02-03-2007, 02:09 PM
Be careful man and be thankful that you can get stoned cheap.

Never pick up the needle.