Herbal Opium AKA Herbal O synergy with Opiates

[Zogledan]

SWIM has Low tolerance.SWIM is having fun weekly with CWE of ether Vics or Darvos some success with Canadian 222s.SWIM needs to know if any else has used INTERNET bought legal high crap called "Herbal Opium" to help there highs?SWIM finds that it can give his waining euphoria a jump start by smoking a couple of hits herbal O off his bong.Seems to intensify to a near NOD buzz.

SWIM doesn't get much from the stuff alone any more.Nothing like the first time he tried it.SWIM felt like 2 OCs worth from from one bowl of the gooey Herbal O.

Any science info gurus?

[Frozen]

Do you know what's in that? Kava kava, Valerian root, wild lettuce, red rock incense, kratom...?
(Those are guesses)

[HistoryofMadness]

i'm going to go out on a limb and say if they're advertising like that its probably not great. we all know that good shit sells itself.

"if its too good to be true, ..."

then again i'm into herbs, and like them, but i make my own combos that kick the shit outta any i've bought.

but especially if you think you may use it to maintain a habit or to go through WD you might wanna find out what's in it and do the research.

[Euphoricgirl]

Low tolerance.....ahhh...those were the days.

[OxyContinuously]

i think it has kava kava, wild dagga, and some other shit--- passion flower maybe? the ingredients may be different, but i know it sure has no opiate in it, obviously

oxy

[Zogledan]

Do you know what's in that? Kava kava, Valerian root, wild lettuce, red rock incense, kratom...?
(Those are guesses)
still waiting for reply from vendor on ingredients.
I'm very sure is from the California poppy.
SWIM just found a new toy at the thrift shop yesterday
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Its the Ice-O-Mat "Vogue" Model from the proud people of the Rival manufacturing Company of Kansas City,MO U.S.A.
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Who says CWE can't be done with a bit of style.

[Paregoric Kid]

it's a scam, they put plant matter together to get products that look and smell like weed or opium (those assholes even make fake hash). if you're trying to find a legal potentiator just try kratom first, something that actually works. don't be duped by people that sell the kind of crap you see in the back of high times. I don't really know why you'd need to use potentiators anyways if you have a low tolerance, unless you can't get much. you'll get way more of an effect from poppin an extra vicodin or maybe taking some kratom than you could ever get from smoking a baseball size glob of that fake opium crap. the stuff they are selling is garbage, just like the fake weed "herbal smoke blends" that assholes try to rip kids off with.

[Papa Verine]

it's a scam, they put plant matter together to get products that look and smell like weed or opium (those assholes even make fake hash). if you're trying to find a legal potentiator just try kratom first, something that actually works. don't be duped by people that sell the kind of crap you see in the back of high times. I don't really know why you'd need to use potentiators anyways if you have a low tolerance, unless you can't get much. you'll get way more of an effect from poppin an extra vicodin or maybe taking some kratom than you could ever get from smoking a baseball size glob of that fake opium crap. the stuff they are selling is garbage, just like the fake weed "herbal smoke blends" that assholes try to rip kids off with.

I'll second that!

[HistoryofMadness]

all poppies are active on some level, and you can take just about any herb, boil it down, and extract it, and feel something. some are nice and relaxing, and peaceful.

most don't make you want to sell your shit to buy more.

but nothing holds a candle to getting plowed under the the somni train if that's what you're looking for.

[I-Nod]

...but nothing holds a candle to getting plowed under the the somni train if that's what you're looking for.

Now that's poetry in (loca)motion! :D

[HistoryofMadness]

Now that's poetry in (loca)motion! :D

hehe creative mixed metaphor... who says they wouldn't work (any english profs wanna give me a go for this?)

[Zogledan]

of all the Philosophies on your planet I find capitalism the most loathsome so I will not even disclose the name of the Herbal O vendor.I got a reply and the ingredients are from the California poppy.
And yes I know is not real and all the crap in back of high times is a scam.
While on this planet my corporal host SWIM still enjoys boosting his REAL opio-high with these fakes and it seems to work according to him.I don't pay much attention to him though because he's always in a semi comatose state watching Gamera movies on old MST3K disks.I tell him the tracers are just from the poor refresh rate on his laptop screen but he just drools and scratches himself.

[HistoryofMadness]

yeah i agree, california poppy isn't bad as a potentiator... prickly poppy i've heard is interesting but i've never tried... mexican poppy and a couple of others are supposed to be pretty active.

california poppy, rhoeas stems, and passion flower make a good sleep combo... that and a melatonin and yer ass is OUT

[Zogledan]

the over the counter L - Phenylalanine seems to help with the monday blues that SWIM encounters.
not enough to count as any type of high but a mellow everthings alright
much like http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/52/200252.jpg

[HistoryofMadness]

much like http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/52/200252.jpg

one of the best drug movies of all times (but not like some might think!)