Opiate Availability in Other Country's? [Archive]

moviebuff927

01-29-2007, 01:27 AM

Dude I think you would have to be out of your mind to try fuckin around with stuff like that in the middle east. The punishments tend to be a little harsher than here in the states or in western Europe. You know, things like chopping off your hands or lopping off your head. . .maybe a nice caning...

That's just me though

It's an exagerration, but not that far from the truth. I think besides the UK and Amsterdam, the USA is one of the most liberal when it comes to drugs. If you look at someplace like China, the penalty for even small amounts is decades in prison and a really hefty fine.

I don't know what it's like in the Middle East, but if you're serious, I would research it first, and I wouldn't bet on pharmaceuticals. You might could get heroin with some ease, but pharms are a lot harder if not impossible.

Chemical_Boy

01-29-2007, 01:42 AM

It's an exagerration, but not that far from the truth. I think besides the UK and Amsterdam, the USA is one of the most liberal when it comes to drugs. If you look at someplace like China, the penalty for even small amounts is decades in prison and a really hefty fine.

I don't know what it's like in the Middle East, but if you're serious, I would research it first, and I wouldn't bet on pharmaceuticals. You might could get heroin with some ease, but pharms are a lot harder if not impossible.
Check this out. . .Member of the Kuwaiti royal family sentenced to death for cocaine and some other stuff. This wasn't that long ago. I am sure not all of the countries in the area are as conservative as the fundamentalist regimes like the Kuwaitis, but i don't think I would want to be the one to find out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16638044/

The only thing that I would do over there would be to see a doctor and take medications that were prescribed. As far as trying to score real party goods, I wouldn't go rolling through the ghetto hollering "rock" or "dope" at people on the corners like I would here in the states.

Dolophine

01-29-2007, 07:42 AM

HA you will never be prescribed opiates/opioids in the middle east you are insane if you think your gonna go there to get high ohhh my god horrible question. lol. They do prescribe alot of Benzo's though. But never opiates. never! In fact I would not travel to the middle east right now unles you are brown and arab or muslim and not lilly white skinned or you may end up kidnapped and beheaded.

Sorry but unless you're wanting to be sacrificed like a goat then go do heroin in the middle east or do drugs in the middle east. Even drinking alcohol in some arab countries carries death penalty. lol.

In a few arab countries and somalia you get your right hand and left foot chopped off for stealing or vice versa. In Saudi Arabia/ Iran If a woman gets raped it takes her word plus like 4 male witnesses to the crime to set her free. Women can't drive. Women get stoned to death for being raped in Saudi Arabia/Iran or they are killed by executioners sword. (beheaded) or shot in the head sometimes but not very often. Fuck arab countries they are so messed up and backwards. It's sick and the people who believe in that shit deserve to live a horrible life. It's insanity to blame a woman for being raped against her will and then kill her for it BY BURYING HER UP TO HER HEAD IN SAND AND THEN HAVING THE FAMILY aND PUBLIC THROW ROCKS AT HER HEAD UNTIL SHE DIES!

HistoryofMadness

01-29-2007, 08:20 AM

well just like anywhere else the trick is not getting caught. if you go during holiday season (summer) you will likely run into brits, aussies, and the like (i'm assuming you only speak english) and packs usually have 'that guy' ...

of course you might look into poppy seeds you'd get a decent source there i think.

but at least know what the punishments are. the good thing is in israel we have such a close diplomatic relationship with them, you'd likely get off fairly easily. but you'd have to play off the dumb american youngster didn't know (or if you're old, then that).

nick

01-29-2007, 09:25 AM

Pack your bullet proof vest and head east,lots of junk in Iran.Of course you'd be better off staying home or clean.

Dolophine

01-29-2007, 09:27 AM

Yah Iran does have a fuckload of Opium and heroin. If you went out to the opium growing areas you could probably bag some opium. And i'm sure you could find heroin almost anywhere around there and in Tehran. The drug penalties in Iran aren't as strict as Saudi Arabia but they are still not that good. Not worth finding out. According to something I read, Heroin is like 5-10$ a gram in Western Pakistan. Tempting. May not be true though.

SuperJunky

01-29-2007, 09:34 AM

I bet it would cost a bit more if your white or american, and even more if your both.

nick

01-29-2007, 09:35 AM

it always does bro.

stvip

01-29-2007, 10:14 AM

the good thing is in israel we have such a close diplomatic relationship with them, you'd likely get off fairly easily.

You really can't compare Israel to the rest of the Middle East. Israel is one of the most liberal countries worldwide, whereas the rest of the Middle East - well, the above descriptions are true, at least in some areas. Jordan is supposed to be considerably more modern than other Arab states, though.
In Israel users generally aren't harassed, and if the police absolutely have to arrest them (as when they receive complaints from neighbours and such), the judge will usually release them with a warning (maybe a fine). Heroin is exceedingly easy to acquire, and I'm told it is of good quality. At least that's the current climate in Tel Aviv.
Sadly, pain sufferers are often undermedicated. I had my impacted wisdom teeth removed with nothing but naproxen for pain (the naproxen precipitated much more problems than it was worth, those problems themselves being undermedicated). Codeine (with no other pharmaceuticals) is available OTC, though.

alowishus

01-29-2007, 10:23 AM

Let's not forget the set-ups, local peeps that got caught, they have can go out and set-up others, I think like 5 peeps, then they get theirs reduced.

So if you have a guy, asking you if you want some drugs, right off the plane, etc. becareful. It'll be the cops picking you up.

Also their was a case of a woman, on a plane from somewhere to somwhere else, but they had a stop over in S.A., she was searched, taken off the plane, piss tested, found to have benzo's in her system, she got them from her doc for flying, but didn't have the bottle, they were gone. She's still in jail in S.A. I believe.

Disclaimer, it's been awhile since that happened & I can't remember it all.

Point being, if you go there and want/look for drugs, be smart, be VERY careful, tell them your from Canada. :D

Check Here.

http://hrw.org/

nick

01-29-2007, 10:32 AM

Always be careful in other countries even the Netherlands.In our thing a lack of local knowledge can be very expensive.Better straight than jail.

HistoryofMadness

01-29-2007, 11:09 AM

You really can't compare Israel to the rest of the Middle East. Israel is one of the most liberal countries worldwide, whereas the rest of the Middle East - well, the above descriptions are true, at least in some areas. Jordan is supposed to be considerably more modern than other Arab states, though.

liberal for first-class citizen isrealis maybe. i'm just criticising the gov policymakers not you nothing personal.

Sadly, pain sufferers are often undermedicated. I had my impacted wisdom teeth removed with nothing but naproxen for pain (the naproxen precipitated much more problems than it was worth, those problems themselves being undermedicated). Codeine (with no other pharmaceuticals) is available OTC, though.

holy shit that sucks! i'd have to find alternative means of medicating myself.

stvip

01-29-2007, 11:50 AM

liberal for first-class citizen isrealis maybe

From where are you taking your information? Israeli Arabs have full rights, including voting (which often goes to Arab parties, who always win seats in the Knesset) and equality before the law. They are not required to serve in the IDF; some consider that treating them as second-class citizen, others as showing sensitivity towards their identity dilemmas; either way, it's mandated by the reality of security concerns. Anyhow, it's not a simple issue: many of them are clearly not loyal to the country. Don't confuse this with the issue of the Palestinians and the Occupied Territories.

holy shit that sucks! i'd have to find alternative means of medicating myself.

I didn't make a fuss about it, because the four teeth were extracted in three different sessions, and the first two times, I experienced minimal pain and discomfort. The third extraction, though, resulted in grotesque swelling and incredible facial pain for the following days. Fortunately, my parents had about 50 100mg tramadol pills to donate.

HistoryofMadness

01-29-2007, 12:12 PM

From where are you taking your information? Israeli Arabs have full rights, including voting (which often goes to Arab parties, who always win seats in the Knesset) and equality before the law. They are not required to serve in the IDF; some consider that treating them as second-class citizen, others as showing sensitivity towards their identity dilemmas; either way, it's mandated by the reality of security concerns. Anyhow, it's not a simple issue: many of them are clearly not loyal to the country. Don't confuse this with the issue of the Palestinians and the Occupied Territories.

This is what I've been trying not to do so I'm taking my politics outta here for a while. Its like a drug for me, I can go without doing it, but once I start I'm like a monster.

I was just talking about the settlement / expansion policy, where land that wasn't Israel, is now. "Occupied territories" appear, or at least to many who study the issue here, to be little more than Israeli land under martial law.

But I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy; I think both sides should be ashamed of their fighting tactics.

But it is very complex, and it hasn't been solved for many years, so you and I won't do it now. Ok, now I'm taking my politics outta here for a while.

nick

01-29-2007, 01:12 PM

Don't do it HOM,better you a monster than straining your underwear again.

P.S. Let's not get into the occupied territories-please.

HistoryofMadness

01-29-2007, 01:30 PM

Don't do it HOM,better you a monster than straining your underwear again.

P.S. Let's not get into the occupied territories-please.

well its an ebb and flow.

and no not the territories that's a debate that goes in circles

nick

01-29-2007, 01:35 PM

Hell bro,most debates go in circles.

P.S.I got my degree in PPE(Leeds uni) and if I hadn't fucked up so very badly,I'd be working in politics.Many of my peers are slaving away in Westminster(suckers).Thank god for fuckin up on dope.
Actually,I'm full of regret-and shit.

alowishus

01-29-2007, 01:53 PM

Actually,I'm full of regret-and shit.

As most of us are, but you can never grow if you can't grow past that. ;)

Regret should always feel bad, but not longer then you need it too.

Insofaras "territories" what are those, what do you mean by that?

Do you mean this?

Ale

02-04-2007, 04:15 AM

Pretty much any of the western European countries has got less severe penalties than the us to tell it straight

Euphoricgirl

02-04-2007, 09:02 AM

Wow. NO WAY...You'd be better off to go to your local pharmacy and stick a gun in their face. Jeez...

alowishus

02-04-2007, 09:11 AM

Wow. NO WAY...You'd be better off to go to your local pharmacy and stick a gun in their face. Jeez...

Naaaaaaw, I've never though of doing such a thing before, NEVER.

AWOL

02-04-2007, 09:15 AM

Euphoricgirl

02-04-2007, 09:22 AM

Naaaaaaw, I've never though of doing such a thing before, NEVER.

God, Me neither Alow!....:D up until today....:p

alowishus

02-04-2007, 09:25 AM

So is the US an occupied territory, or did we officially finish off that whole genocide of an indigenous ppl thing by now? :rolleyes:

Shit happens, has since the beginning of time. I don’t imagine too many ppl had good things to say about the Romans back in the day either. (or the Brits, or the French, or the Etc.)

Peeps like the roman's when they took over your city they brought in running water, which they didn't have before, heated baths, sewers, all the concrete buildings, and well some gods too, oh and slaves, but really they loved them for it. :D

EDIT: Has anyone EVER had anything good to say about the French? :jerkoff:

Only the french.

alowishus

02-04-2007, 09:26 AM

God, Me neither Alow!....:D up until today....:p

When Katrina hit the 1st thing I though was, "GOD ALL THOSE PHARMACIES.......wher are my car keys!!!"

AWOL

02-04-2007, 09:41 AM

Peeps like the roman's when they took over your city they brought in running water, which they didn't have before, heated baths, sewers, all the concrete buildings, and well some gods too, oh and slaves, but really they loved them for it. :D

We didn't do that same thing with the Native Americans? Time frames dude, Rome wasn't built overnight (or however that goes)

Point being, I'm starting to take the stance of I could give a fuck about the rest of the worlds bitchin. They bitch so much about the problems with the US that it's just starting to make me smile larger and wider about how fucked up their countries are. No matter how good they all pretend they are (and I've been to a lot of them, they still lick my balls).

I used to agree with them about a lot of our problems .... well that was right up until I had to watch bowling for columbine in Buenos Aires. I had to hear about what a large gun problem we have here in the US for MONTHS .. so I get around to looking it up on the internet and Argentina was like, baredly below us. Then I look up stabbings ,,, oh geez. So next time the argument comes up, I point out that they have FAR more deaths just from stabbings alone and that they should wipe their own ass before worrying about other peoples problems. Their answer was (I don't know why I was so surprised) Well we're a third world country, and you are a first world country, you should take care of your problems and then help us to catch up on ours. How can we fix our problems if the US sucks so bad ......

So yeah, fuck em. The more they bitch now-days, the happier I get. This is all just normal, look at history. This is how it always has been / always will be. Might as well just go with the flow and hang my balls out there for the rest of the world to kiss. Besides, I have citezenship in Europe too, I'll just move there if things get bad. Or to whatever other country. Fuck everyone, fuck em all. Bunch of whinney bitches.

alowishus

02-04-2007, 09:50 AM

We didn't do that same thing with the Native Americans? Time frames dude, Rome wasn't built overnight (or however that goes)

Point being, I'm starting to take the stance of I could give a fuck about the rest of the worlds bitchin. They bitch so much about the problems with the US that it's just starting to make me smile larger and wider about how fucked up their countries are. No matter how good they all pretend they are (and I've been to a lot of them, they still lick my balls)

Well true, BUT we all hate that older person growing up that wouldn't let you do stuff, go places w/ them, etc.

That is what we are becoming, and the rest of the world hates us for it, well that and anything named BUSH from Texas.

AWOL

02-04-2007, 10:00 AM

Well true, BUT we all hate that older person growing up that wouldn't let you do stuff, go places w/ them, etc.

That is what we are becoming, and the rest of the world hates us for it, well that and anything named BUSH from Texas.

I hear yah, and I'd be right on board with them if I hadn't already spent so much time living in other countries and getting shit on. I always minded my own bizz dude, I NEVER brought shit up ..... and without fail every fuckin taxi driver / waiter / EVERYBODY had to rip into me about what a piece of shit americans are ... so now I just sit back and smile. What else can you do? I used to be a huge proponent for fixin shit in the US / globally .. now I could really give a fuck.

alowishus

02-04-2007, 10:11 AM

I hear yah, and I'd be right on board with them if I hadn't already spent so much time living in other countries and getting shit on. I always minded my own bizz dude, I NEVER brought shit up ..... and without fail every fuckin taxi driver / waiter / EVERYBODY had to rip into me about what a piece of shit americans are ... so now I just sit back and smile. What else can you do? I used to be a huge proponent for fixin shit in the US / globally .. now I could really give a fuck.

The only other countries I've been too were europe and philly.

Had a frined come back from the 'Dam saying he got jumped in a bar, of course someone said something about USA and sucks at the same time.

AWOL

02-04-2007, 10:17 AM

The only other countries I've been too were europe and philly.

Had a frined come back from the 'Dam saying he got jumped in a bar, of course someone said something about USA and sucks at the same time.

I use the European passport to travel, and a hat with a flag from the country where I have citizenship. I've been Canadian a few times too. It's not like I personally caused all of these problems, fuck. I used to be willing / wanting to fix some of them ... used to be.

cracksinthepavement

02-12-2007, 07:48 PM

I've been all over northern and parts of southern europe. You can get 15mg max codeine in france OTC. You can get 12.8mg codeine max OTC in england. You can't get shit in holland, germany, or switzerland. Amsterdam is NOT the mecca for drugs, trust me. 9 times out of 10 you will get fucked dealing on the streets, and that is the only way to score(unless the obvious). In my experience only a few have true h and be warry. Even my best intuition and experience led to 2 ripoffs. The drug district is absolutely full of immigrants who have come to amsterdam specifically to prey on americans. They make you walk, ask questions and size you up, then rip you off appropriately.

But for real, when travelling always bring your own. I don't care what anyone says about the risks.

Canis aureus

02-13-2007, 09:46 AM

Good points!!!

But is there available medicines in other country?

Does that (in other country) mean, in Europe? In India? In Polynesia? Africa? North Pole? Where-ever?

HistoryofMadness

02-13-2007, 10:30 AM

Good points!!!

But is there available medicines in other country?

Does that (in other country) mean, in Europe? In India? In Polynesia? Africa? North Pole? Where-ever?

of course there are drugs available in other countries... ? is that a serious question?

Canis aureus

02-14-2007, 12:01 PM

I ment, this thread is so wild... heheh.

But as a matter of fact, I guess that in America there is much more medicines sold in streets than in EU, for example. I bought much heroin back in the day, there wasn't much meds, before I got one oxy deal. Or there was, but I got lots from doctors, and couple particular doc, not from dealers. Dealers sold H...

As I have understood it, there are lots of dealers who sell pills in America? Am I correct? It is more usual to buy meds in streets in USA than in EU, though I believe that pill dealers are getting more usual also here...

ZodiacKiller

02-15-2007, 03:51 AM

For Pinion, if he is somehow able to read this: I've watched you insult HoM for three pages worth of thread and watched him respond and good-naturedly take your bullshit like the stand-up guy that he is. But now you've crossed the line. First off, it is against the rules to insult other forum members period, but to re-route a thread that a mod deleted through Google so that you can insult him again is inexcusable, and for that you are banned. Good-bye.

ZK