Kratom question

[greenfox]

Does Kratom get blocked by suboxone? Thanks in advance.

also: I ordered the Mitragyna Speciosa (Kratom) Fortified Bali Leaf from Phytoextractum; anyone had experience with this particular product? Thanks thanks thanks in advance!!

[HistoryofMadness]

Well I know from a member here that it can help the WD from kratom, if you're on it bad. But I don't know if it will block it. I'd think it would block some but not all, since kratom isn't necessarily an opiate.

[greenfox]

Hey curious here about two things,

1) With extracts/fortified powder, what is the *best* ingestion teqnique? (sp>?)

also:

2) I ordered ph's Mitragyna Speciosa (Kratom) Fortified Leaf - 5 grams? what would be a good starting dose for someone VERY opiate tollerant, and, how good is this stuff? I haven't tried too much Kratom- would LOVE to hear some stuff on this!

[HistoryofMadness]

Hey curious here about two things,

1) With extracts/fortified powder, what is the *best* ingestion teqnique? (sp>?)



if it were mine i'd wash the powder down with some juice. most effecient method.



2) I ordered ph's Mitragyna Speciosa (Kratom) Fortified Leaf - 5 grams? what would be a good starting dose for someone VERY opiate tollerant, and, how good is this stuff? I haven't tried too much Kratom- would LOVE to hear some stuff on this!

you will probably need to combine it with an opiate if you have a high tolerance. but start low to avoid stomach issues. but if you're starting low, don't wait too long (more than 15 or 20 min) til the next dose, it has a short lifespan.

[SuperJunky]

While kratom isnt an opiate its opiate properties are caused by stimulation of the opiate receptors, so I would think that it would block the majority of the opiate effects. I could be wrong. I know it does a pretty good job of blocking WD (the kratom that is) so I would assume it stimulates the receptors, that or my entire view of the world is wrong....

I havnt tried the particular product but I've found eating the powdered leaf is a lot more effective than tea, extracts etc.

[greenfox]

so just eat it straight, then, huh? OK will do, I will report back. this shit is a 5 gram bag, I wish I knew how much to start with.. (that fortified leaf?) not quite an extract, but close enough. Thanx anyways for the help, any other info is of course appreciated.

[HistoryofMadness]

i'd start with one g

[OxyContinuously]

greenfox, start with a gram or so, to assess how it affects you, and then go up or down from there.

[astro]

i understand that kratom's effects are blocked by buprenorphine/naloxone. let me know what you find out

[Zogledan]

Swim too is awaiting his first shipment of Kratom.
SWIM has had some success with near opiates to obtain a euphoria like high before. SWIM used Herbal Opium smoked it and felt like he had took 3 OCs for the first couple times he smoked it then it was just a fake high that helped him quit drinking.Much like Richard Burton's character in Night Of the Iguana.Thankfully no one had to tie up SWIM in a hammock.SWIM still keep some Herbal O on hand to add a little kick to his CWE experiments when he feels the effects waining.Nice synergy.
What is the best OTC to synergy with Kratom tea?
Or is it best by its self?