Pharmacies

[ProdigalSon]

How easy do ya'll think it would be to steal pills if you worked at a pharmacy? I would think when the pharmacist isnt looking you could technically pour some pills out of the bottle(not a script, the bulk bottle) into your pocket. Roxi? Id have to imagine this is were the majority of black market pills come from. Or maybe the actuall company. Some shady ass workers in the factory. Id love to know the percentage breakdown of were black market pills come from. Time fo' some research

[superman]

Stealing is wrong

[greenfox]

How easy do ya'll think it would be to steal pills if you worked at a pharmacy? I would think when the pharmacist isnt looking you could technically pour some pills out of the bottle(not a script, the bulk bottle) into your pocket. Roxi? Id have to imagine this is were the majority of black market pills come from. Or maybe the actuall company. Some shady ass workers in the factory. Id love to know the percentage breakdown of were black market pills come from. Time fo' some research

actually I'd love to hear an answer to this one. I've also thought that maybe when the SHIPment comes in; how guarded do you think a drug delivering oxy's to the backdoor of a walgreens' really IS? Probably just a junkies' dream, but still.... tempting. :)

[mrrice11]

stealing is right

[mrrice11]

sorry for double post but, greenfox if you looked in thr search engine you would find that the subject of pharmacy deliveries and all that has been talked about quite a bit, i remember just a little while ago ppl were discussing that

[HistoryofMadness]

Pharmacies count and track meds constantly. They would be able to narrow down the event to within a few days. There are discrepancies but only the manager and pharmacist would know them.

Plus there may be cameras.

And if you get caught, getting fired is just the beginning of your problems.

I'd recommend you not do it unless you know exactly how things work regarding inventory.

[roxi*stardust]

How easy do ya'll think it would be to steal pills if you worked at a pharmacy? I would think when the pharmacist isnt looking you could technically pour some pills out of the bottle(not a script, the bulk bottle) into your pocket. Roxi? Id have to imagine this is were the majority of black market pills come from. Or maybe the actuall company. Some shady ass workers in the factory. Id love to know the percentage breakdown of were black market pills come from. Time fo' some research
I will for the record say that I have never attempted this and never would. First because I would lose my career and most importantly because I'm afraid to go to jail. Not that I never considered it but I'm way too afraid of the consquences and wouldn't want to let my family down by getting busted.

It would not be easy to do this and not draw a great deal of attention. Most pharmacies have video surveliance and ALL CII meds have to be tracked in a log book for the pharmacy, DEA, and state board to review and track. So every time CII's come in, they are double checked against the packing slip and then added into the Pharmacy log book, when they are dispensed they are subtracted from inventory. They have to be counted at least every week by a pharmacist. Some places count them daily. The state board of Pharmacy can audit a pharmacy at anytime, so doctoring the log books is not an option. Most places also keep track of other scheduled drugs too, they just aren't required to have a log book, though most do.

One place that I worked the techs never touched CII's, only the RPH (pharmacist) and they were locked up in a cabinet. The last place I worked the techs did fill them, they were not locked up, they were out on the shelf with all the other meds. At this place OC, Roxicodone and Morphine kept coming up missing. Needless to say they busted the girl who was stealing them. She's in a shitload of trouble. I just read about some technicians at another pharmacy around here stealing something like 1500 hydrocodone pills over a 6 month period, apparently the place knew, they just kept mounting evidence against them.

[superman]

I'd reccommend you not do it unless you know exactly how things work regarding inventory.

Do you publicly advocate theft or does it just appear that way?

[HistoryofMadness]

Do you publicly advocate theft or does it just appear that way?

i'm not discussing the morality of it, i'm answering the question objectively. i've made the assumption that the OP has made that particular decision.

did the OP ask if we thought it was right? i didn't think so. he asked how easy it would be.

and i made it clear that it would be very difficult. so that seems to be the opposite of what you're accusing me of anyway.

do you publicly advocate being an asshole?

[insaneike]

I'm going to school to be a pharm tech, start next fall, and it's NOT to get acces to pills, as i already got everything I need(i mean u know what i mean lol). Like already stated every single Schedule II narcotic is accounted for. The only way you're gonna get jack shit is the drop one or two pills in which case would have to be 'thrown away' for sanitary reasons. Now you couldn't do this but maybe once every 1-3mos for obvious reasons. If you're thinking of doing this for pill access, stop dreaming and start thinking. Don't ya think we'd all be doing it if you could just swipe all extra pills or tumble out a few extra? lol.

sorry, but it'd be easier to fake a pain and get them(which i'm totally against too).

[Chemical_Boy]

I don't know personally, but I would imagine pharmacy security is right up there with bank security and casino security. I'm sure the shit happens, but I would also bet for every successful pharmacy tech drug diverter that there are 9 who get fired or prosecuted.

[moviebuff927]

sorry, but it'd be easier to fake a pain and get them(which i'm totally against too).


I would bitch n bitch and go to a hundred docs till I get some relief though. What I did till I found a really freaking cool one, my fam doc!

That makes sense.

[insaneike]

^^

would u rather get stuck with percs or keep trying new docs till u get something that helps ur pain??

and thats the best bet, keep trying n trying, and yeap, im not for faking pains...

[Euphoricgirl]

^^

would u rather get stuck with percs or keep trying new docs till u get something that helps ur pain??

and thats the best bet, keep trying n trying, and yeap, im not for faking pains...


Uhhhhh. I'm with moviebuff on this one. Half the people on this board fake pain, slam.........

[ProdigalSon]

If you're thinking of doing this for pill access, stop dreaming and start thinking. Don't ya think we'd all be doing it if you could just swipe all extra pills or tumble out a few extra? lol.

sorry, but it'd be easier to fake a pain and get them(which i'm totally against too).

Nope

[superman]

do you publicly advocate being an asshole?

absolutely!

[HistoryofMadness]

absolutely!

gat dern right! me too!

[wafflehead77]

At both retail pharmacies I have worked at, there was a counter top directly above the locked safe where CII's were stored. It was required that you count pills on this counter only. If you carried the pills anywhere else, it was considered extremely suspicious, and counts were made to make sure nothing was missing(there was a camera that watched the counter-top to make sure nothing shady happens).
When I did my internship at a hospital pharmacy, it was much easier for people to get away with theft, as powder for reconstitution was used. I know someone that would steal small amounts of the powder, or make an extra amount of reconstituted solution that they would pocket. He eventually got caught, as everytime she would reconstitute dilaudid, morphine, or demerol, she would make 1/4-1/3 more than needed. Once thae bottles started running out really early in comparison to what was logged as being dispensed, they investigated, and eventally busted him. He laot his license for five years, and may never have it returned (more than likely). Alot of the hospital nurses would pocket the un-used parenteral meds that were supposed to be disposed of. I never heard of them being caught though.

[insanesteveo]

cant you just short a person getting the meds like one or two? think if you just took one from each bottle. wouldnt that work? youd have to have some pretty quick hands.

or is that whole idea just wrong, taking from people that need the meds?

[Hammilton]

When I think about all the pills I've seen being sold, 99% of them were coming from peoples scripts.

Fuck, I've never heard of them coming from anywhere else.

[ProdigalSon]

When I think about all the pills I've seen being sold, 99% of them were coming from peoples scripts.

Yup me too. I used to have a connect from my hometown whose grandparents owned a pharmacy (Let me tell you, very, very small town, pop 200). Id just tell her what ID want and VOILA! I could tell her by the back door and shed walk right in and in 3 min be out with what I wanted. I usually only wanted Xanax. Onother guy who I can only get vics from actually has a bottle the size of a quart of milk. He got it from a friend who works in a pharmacy in Detroit!!! Guy just crotches the bottle, walks out with it at closing time. The guy is the head pharmacist though. I kinda thought that shit went on alot but guess not.

[Opilover]

Well I know for a fact,what happens around here I know someone who worked as a tech and stole about 100 oxy's,well not only did she lose her job but she is in prison right now for it.Very tempting but not worth the risk

[greenfox]

Roxi another very stupid question, I'm sure: what if you were able to forge a script? How easy/hard would this be? I know you need the DEA number, but follow me on this one for a minute: let's assume you've got the DEA number and access to a VERY good scanner. Now I know the procedure is usually to call back on CIIs, so... what if you were somehow able to change the callback number to say...a pay phone... and had a buddy waiting, the "doctor" of sorts..? Is the trouble mostly in understanding the doc's lingo on the scripts, and forging it properly, or the DEA number, or are there other pitfalls? And if one WERE to try it, would one have better luck going after say... Kadians...rather than oxys...and LASTLY... if the number was very low (like 10 Aqtiq suckers vs. 60 80mg oxys..) this is all dream/fantasy talk, but I love hearing it from a pharm. who is on "our" side... and btw... please don't answer if any of this could get you into trouble. This is all just hypothetiocal... btw.. I'm in (not so) oh-HIGH-o if that makes any sort of real difference...