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I came across these pills, there 50mg of tramadol (ultram) and I have no info on them, haven't taken them before or even heard of them. So my questions are:
How much can they be sold for on the street (if at all)?
Can they really cause CNS stimulation (instead of cns depression :confused: )? (I'm not taking them if they do)
Are they even an opiate?
How is this high?
How long till they kick in if chewed?
Any other advice and anyone have any bad side effects or experiences with these?
Thanks.
Please use the search.There should be quite a lot on tramadol.Oh and I wonder how that godess of rats broad is.
HistoryofMadness
01-28-2007, 12:32 PM
they suck.
they suck.
Beautiful bro,says it all.
slugbone
01-28-2007, 12:39 PM
I came across these pills, there 50mg of tramadol (ultram) and I have no info on them, haven't taken them before or even heard of them. So my questions are:
How much can they be sold for on the street (if at all)?
Can they really cause CNS stimulation (instead of cns depression :confused: )? (I'm not taking them if they do)
Are they even an opiate?
How is this high?
How long till they kick in if chewed?
Any other advice and anyone have any bad side effects or experiences with these?
Thanks.
i've used them quite a bit. they are a synthetic opiate. easy to obtain via OP's. as you have seen some people thnk they are worthless. i wouldnt chew them they taste horrible and it doesn't help the effects coming on faster. snorting is painful and not recommended.
you can't sell them for shit they can be purchased for .50 cents a pill on line.
while they are not stimulants some reports on erowid state they get at least a mood enhancement and energetic feeling. they are good for moderate to severe pain by themselves or mixed with acetaminophen.
some report seizures when taken at higher levels above 300mg. i like them to stave off w/d, and sometimes i mix with other opiates. they high isn't comparable to other opiates but it is a decent substitute if you are out of everything else, and i keep them around for backup.
I hope this doen's apply to you love,but Tramadol are embryo toxic.
insaneike
01-28-2007, 12:44 PM
It's complete crap... nuff said
and it's a quasi opiate, i personally wouldn't call it an opiate.
slugbone
01-28-2007, 12:51 PM
Please use the search.There should be quite a lot on tramadol.Oh and I wonder how that godess of rats broad is.
i remember her nick, she used to take like 100 trams a day or something crazy like that. she was a tramadol freak.
i loved DD when he said that, he called her that rat broad haha
doctor diesel
01-28-2007, 12:52 PM
Tramadol is no good for getting high, but is excellent for a) maintaining when you've run out of dope, and b) waking you up and getting you moving when you're feeling lethargic and unmotivated, c) painkilling (surprise surprise).
Don't bother with any method of ingestion other than swallowing, then typically wait 40 minutes for the effects to become noticeable.
Hope that helps.
Doc D
GnosisX
01-28-2007, 02:11 PM
Well they are no good if you looking for a strong opiate feeling, took 150mg yesterday with some Klonopin and it just gave me a mood lift that lasted a very long time, but no euphoria, no nod, no money to be made from them, just a mood lift.
Fuck. I snorted my last oc thinking these would work and all, I didn't take them yet but fuck, I should have save that shit, fuckkkk. I'm not even going to try these out, trash can is where they will be.
slugbone
01-28-2007, 02:23 PM
Fuck. I snorted my last oc thinking these would work and all, I didn't take them yet but fuck, I should have save that shit, fuckkkk. I'm not even going to try these out, trash can is where they will be.
they will help quite a bit with withdrawals, i wouldn't throw them out.
tptptp
01-28-2007, 02:25 PM
Yeah, thats really dumb.....why the hell would you throw them out if you've never even tried em?
I'm really upset now. I thought they might be like vicodin or lorcets, but guess not =(. See someone in my house hold was suppose to get something stronger but she does not take any type of painkillers, so not knowing this was a painkiller she got the script and then found out they were a pain killer, threw them out, and guess who confiscated them?;) .
But anyway I have a drug test soon and decided to do my last oc today, bad idea and I should have saved it so I'm kinda upset now. I really should have saved it for tuesday. DARN. But will these show up on a drug test or no? I need a front this week.
Yeah, thats really dumb.....why the hell would you throw them out if you've never even tried em?
I have a drug test soon, so I can't test them out till tuesday but I am gonna find myself a guinie pig. If anyone is even going to want to try these out, I have someone in mind if he can get me tombstones but I heard they work like a stimulant and if so, then fuck no there getting trashed or I'm gonna give them to a friend.
from what I've read on erowid, people thought they were like vics and were like amazing but what the heck, so are they good or are they bad? :confused: (very)
They are what they are.Most people here wouldn't bother with them apart from wds and pain relief.
slugbone
01-28-2007, 02:38 PM
from what I've read on erowid, people thought they were like vics and were like amazing but what the heck, so are they good or are they bad? :confused: (very)
if you try em start at 100mg, and see how you feel. you may actually like the feeling. if not they can also help you stretch out your product. taking 50-100 mg along with your OC's and you could have some days when you taper down on the oc's and reduce your tolerance.
trams have helped me in that way, and they are truly helpful when you are out of everything else. esp with the restless legs at night. worth keeping for just those reasons, even if you don't dig the high they work well for reducing tolerance and staving of the most painful of w/d symptoms
lstar7
01-28-2007, 05:26 PM
I personally feel that trams are better than nothing, and they do kill pain quite well. I sure would hate to see you throw them out! I dont think they show up as opiates in urine tho, anyone have any knowledge on that?
ProdigalSon
01-28-2007, 05:31 PM
Ive never even had pain relief from them. Ive heard from a few on this site that it is a mild relief so it must work for some. Probably have sumpin to do with my OC habit. I got a script a while back for 20 of em. Took 15 of them and didnt feel squat.
tptptp
01-28-2007, 06:13 PM
from what I've read on erowid, people thought they were like vics and were like amazing but what the heck, so are they good or are they bad? :confused: (very)
They arent as good as hydros but they work, def better than nothing, only use for WD, and no they dont usually show up in drug tests! BUT they can, I forget the whole shpeel on 'em but supposedly they only show up on some drug tests...
HistoryofMadness
01-28-2007, 07:06 PM
well if you have a drug test soon the last thing you need to be doing is popping OCs any later than today.
SuperJunky
01-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Tram definatly wont show up on a standard 5 panel test. I was tested twice a week and used when I could and filled the wholes in w/ these. Some people suggest using these to boost stronger opies but I dont find this to work, If I take some tram it takes a lot more dope for me to get off, it kills the rush and screws the high untill I do enough to basically nod/borderline black out. I do mix them w/ small amounts of putty and kratom for WD. I find I get better effects by spacing out my dosing, say 100mg 3 times a day instead of 300mg at once. I get fairly wide range of affects sometimes completly different from one day to the next. I much prefer the 100mg time release pills, those seemed to work much better for me. Also I found that pressed pills are better than the capsule kind. They seem to keep wd at bay for 12-16 hours once the proper dose is found. Less can be more seeing as at higher doses they seem to act more like an ssri for me. I also notice that when I take them it makes smoking cigs less enjoyable. Sometimes I cant even finish a turkish silver w/ out feeling this weird feeling that reminds me of a mix seratonin syndrome and a nicotine od but passes in 15 minutes so I know its not that. Dont mix w/ dxm. I wouldnt mix w/ ssris either but a lot of people are prescribed both. I'd say you should eat before hand, as they seem to screw my apatite up pretty bad. Snorting 50mg can help get WD off my back quicker, but I say oral is the best route. DO NOT IV. I think that covers everything I've experienced w/ them.
edit sometimes about 1/2 hour after I take them i'm hit w/ severe drowsiness. I also had a friend w/ little opiate tolerance that said he got a kind of strange nod by mixing tram and weed.
Well I took a 40mg at like 7am this morning of oc, then look 3 50mg trams. I feel great they worked for me (maybe because I got them from a pharm not online) but I also mixed xanies in. My backpain went away too. I guess they are good for when your oc wears off, they remind me of lorcets. I like them =) and I feel somewhat high and happy, just not off the wall messed up.
SuperJunky
01-28-2007, 09:36 PM
One more thing I forgot to add, for some reason when I switch from dope/oc/morph/hydromorph/etc to tram things seem to go much better if I take a shot of dope after they kick in, even though I know they'll mostly block it, it still seems to ease the transition big time. I loved them at one point but they seem to give me more and more side affects and less and less opiate affects the more I take them.
One more thing I forgot to add, for some reason when I switch from dope/oc/morph/hydromorph/etc to tram things seem to go much better if I take a shot of dope after they kick in, even though I know they'll mostly block it, it still seems to ease the transition big time. I loved them at one point but they seem to give me more and more side affects and less and less opiate affects the more I take them.
I'll make sure I only take them when desperate or don't have $$$ for an oc.
HistoryofMadness
01-29-2007, 08:55 AM
well shit now that i have no tolerance i'm maybe second-guessing? L. Ron knows i've tried everything else that i could again, maybe giving this one a second shot it...
naahhh. . . its still crap
SuperJunky
01-29-2007, 09:03 AM
When I said I loved it I meant that it gave me a mild opie buzz and kept WD away which was great when I had to quit due to court ordered drug testing. I was on H at the time but didnt have too huge of a tolerance. I really have found the 100mg time released tabs to be a lot better than the 50mg IR tabs or capsules. Like the 50mgs are crap and if I werent dependant I wouldnt take them but w/ the 100mg Time released I'd take them for recreation on occasion. Seeing as you go for the more natural high thing at the moment I wouldnt bother, tram has a definate chemical feel to them.
HistoryofMadness
01-29-2007, 09:12 AM
Seeing as you go for the more natural high thing at the moment I wouldnt bother, tram has a definate chemical feel to them.
well that settles it in all seriousness, at least for now, because i am really tired of the pharmy high, the chemical buzz.
Phoshaman
02-04-2007, 10:29 PM
SWIM prefers Tramadol to Hydrocodone, but that's just SWIM.
300mg in the morning, 200mg in the afternoon, 100mg in the evening. The best anti-depressant SWIM has ever used (combined with Clonazepam to prevent seizure).
prhighmalrage
02-06-2007, 11:28 AM
me TOO!! ^^
I am not addicted to any opiates nor do I have much of a tolerence but I absolutely LOVE tramadol. I can't explain it but I seem to get much more of a mood lift/opiate buzz/anti depressant effect from tramadol than I do oxy, hydrocodone or codine. I have been trying to figure this shit out for a while. I actually get sick if I take more than 100mg IR tramadol at the same time. I dont know why but I love this stuff.
Phoshaman
02-11-2007, 01:12 AM
Tramadol is a fantastic drug for treating depression.
I prefer it as a maintenance med moreso than anything else.
Substance-P-Inhibition
02-14-2007, 12:19 AM
I think tramadol is great. I had severe pain in my kidneys, and the doc gave me some. It worked wonders, especially considering my ridiculous tolerance to opiates.
I'm taking suboxone and i'm getting tested for opiates mostly, so would tramadol show up on that drug test?
I know they test for methadone, codeine, and maybe one or two more opiates.
I also heard kidney health can affect drug testing, and the amount of time after using you can have a positive test. any ideas?
JahRed24
02-14-2007, 01:38 PM
i just got a bottle of 60 50mg Tramadols...so they are good? are they good to mix with Hydrocodone? good to mix with OxyContin? Good to mix with benzos?? :confused::confused:anyone know?
slugbone
02-14-2007, 03:20 PM
i just got a bottle of 60 50mg Tramadols...so they are good? are they good to mix with Hydrocodone? good to mix with OxyContin? Good to mix with benzos?? :confused::confused:anyone know?
you can mix with whatever you got. i have mixed with percocet, empacod, other opiates. never tried with benzos. i find that trams help stretch out the product, but do some research on the search engine some folks consider trams to be quite useless.
i would not recommend taking more than 250 mg per day of trams, they can cause seizures in amounts more than that.
Alice Mudgarden
02-24-2007, 11:23 PM
you can mix with whatever you got. i have mixed with percocet, empacod, other opiates. never tried with benzos. i find that trams help stretch out the product, but do some research on the search engine some folks consider trams to be quite useless.
i would not recommend taking more than 250 mg per day of trams, they can cause seizures in amounts more than that.
I used the search engine for a bit, but couldn't really get a definitive answer on this.....Do you think the trams along with another opiate(like hydro or oxy) potentiate the other opiate to make the overall experience better than either one alone? Some people think it helps, others think it blocks the effects of the stronger opiate. You say it "stretches out the product", meaning it makes it better or helps with WDs?
Morefiend
02-27-2007, 03:21 PM
I Think those who say tradamol is shit have expereined powerfull opiates like h so its going to be shit to them. Anyway i took 200mg 50mg <-snorted (for the first time)and for the first few hours it felt way to strong of a dose and felt like a dxm trip not a opiate but then it started to mellow out and i felt intense wellbeing and happyness i played with my little staffy (my dog) for over 1hour i was so happy and i go into that nodding stage which most opiate user love its great i would say its stronger then codeine way stronger.
P.S When you snort it it hurts like hell for about 10 seconds then the pain fades away
Have fun :)
doctor diesel
02-27-2007, 03:31 PM
I tried smoking the tramadol powder and it damn near took off the lining of my nose and throat.
Fuck me, I can still taste that shit now.
Never again.
Damn good for staving off the WDs though!
Doc D
REVEREND
02-28-2007, 12:02 PM
I've been getting off methadone using only Tramadol and TONS OF POT.The trams are working great for pain and I havent felt any w/ds from the trams. I take bout 200-250 mgs a day and been able too cut down the done from 60mgs to 5mgs in bout a month.
The one thing that sucks is I took 40mgs of oxy one night instead of done and I got sick as shit.Not w/ds butt nausea, dissy, sweating,itchy ect..I didn't feel that high either no nods not even that warm feeling I luv so much.I was up all night thinkin I was gonna puke.
Could opiates not like me anymore?:mad:
I'll guess I'll try just keep tryin more untill they feel good again:rolleyes:
REVEREND
Sitar
02-28-2007, 12:48 PM
That's odd. I know that Tramadol is known to slightly antagonize Methadone, and I've actually had it happen. I took Tramadol on top of my normal methadone dose, and it made me feel yawny and really tired and sluggish.
If you're not having that kind of effect, then don't worry. It probably doesn't affect everyone the same.
noahzark
03-02-2007, 10:11 PM
I have never tried that stuff yet. I have a bottle that a buddy gave me and I tossed into a drawer. It came from from a South American country and is meant to be dropped into water or a drink, has a built in dropper. It says "Tramal Gotas" and then Tramadol. It is a 10 ml bottle. This guy said it was supppsed to be some kind of Vic alternative but I never got around to checking it out yet.
I bet I can't even get off on it, better save it for WD's?
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