jacky
01-27-2007, 02:21 PM
different species of trees known as Elaeocarpus grow in different parts of the world, Australia, Nepal, India, Hawaii, and I am sure many other places.
Rudraksha refers to a bead made from the seed of Elaeocarpus ganitrus/sphaericus. a really cool looking, hard, textured seed, that is divided into sections that vary in number from 1-36ish. the different numbers are supposed to have various different magical powers.
These seeds are sacred to the Hindus predominantly, and are seen hanging over Shivas image on arms, neck and legs.
The most common number of sections is 5, but on my necklace of 5 sectioned rudras I found some 4 section, and 6-8 section beads as well.
The malas/necklaces that are made of these seeds are incredibly strong, giving me the idea that a type of chain mail armor might be made of the strung beads.
The plant is used medicinally, leaves I believe, and the seeds are ground up and consumed internally. The seeds are also used medicinally it is purported without being consumed, just dropped whole in water and then just the water consumed.
I am fascinated by the jewelry made of seeds, and the history of the seed, and also the ethnobotanical/entheogenic uses that are recorded.
Late the other night I decided to go hunting for data regarding organic opioids, and within a minute pulled up a somewhat familiar name in a report on active delta opioid agonist compounds.
Elaeocarpus Grandis an australian species, was researched using the leaf material.
it contains some indolizidine alkaloids: grandisine A, and isoelaeocarpine B.
If I am reading the report right, these compounds have some delta opioid
activity.
I believe, but could be wrong the symbol that stood for the opioid subtype was the o-receptor...which I remember as being the delta. if I am wrong, please correct me.
This species has the same type of deep, bright blue fruits that the other species have, though I dont know if the seeds of this species are used to make the hard jewelry quality beads that most people consider a rudraksha. I know a Hawiian species produces large, softer seeds, that look nice, but lack the shine and toughness of the E. Ganitrus/Sphaericus species.
I have searched for information about any commercial source of this leaf, and also searched for information about alkaloid content in the rudraksha producing species Ganitrus/Sphaericus.
So far I havnt found anything interesting.
The Ganitrus/Sphaericus species are know for medicinal properties, I have read a little info about Sphaericus and analgesic properties as well as potentiating the hypnotic effect of phenobarb. I would expect that the Ganitrus species has similiar use, as these two seperate species are interchangeably used as the classic rudraksha.
so now the question I want to answer for myself, is does the obtainable powder of the Sphaericus/Ganitrus seed contain similiar o-opioid agonist compounds to those found in the leaf material of the E. Grandis species, or other possible opioids?
Wouldnt be hard for me to confirm that there is similiar chemistry, all I need is a few grams of correctly identified E. Grandis leaf, and to order some seed powder. send the material to my chemist freind, and hopefully interest him in doing TLC/HPLC research. He has done this before for me with leaves from Tabernaemontana Pachysiphon that I ordered from Africa, and the Taberneamontana Holstii leaf material that I harvested from my live specimens of that species. He confirmed that many of the alkaloids of the two species were similar or the same. including the active materials that I was interested in.
While I dont get too excited over this "find" I think it is really interesting, and I think that despite the outcome in obtaining rare leaf material, that I will still order some E. Ganitrus seed powder and see how that material is as an herbal. anything analgesic is welcome in my house
OM NAMA SHIVAYA.
Rudraksha refers to a bead made from the seed of Elaeocarpus ganitrus/sphaericus. a really cool looking, hard, textured seed, that is divided into sections that vary in number from 1-36ish. the different numbers are supposed to have various different magical powers.
These seeds are sacred to the Hindus predominantly, and are seen hanging over Shivas image on arms, neck and legs.
The most common number of sections is 5, but on my necklace of 5 sectioned rudras I found some 4 section, and 6-8 section beads as well.
The malas/necklaces that are made of these seeds are incredibly strong, giving me the idea that a type of chain mail armor might be made of the strung beads.
The plant is used medicinally, leaves I believe, and the seeds are ground up and consumed internally. The seeds are also used medicinally it is purported without being consumed, just dropped whole in water and then just the water consumed.
I am fascinated by the jewelry made of seeds, and the history of the seed, and also the ethnobotanical/entheogenic uses that are recorded.
Late the other night I decided to go hunting for data regarding organic opioids, and within a minute pulled up a somewhat familiar name in a report on active delta opioid agonist compounds.
Elaeocarpus Grandis an australian species, was researched using the leaf material.
it contains some indolizidine alkaloids: grandisine A, and isoelaeocarpine B.
If I am reading the report right, these compounds have some delta opioid
activity.
I believe, but could be wrong the symbol that stood for the opioid subtype was the o-receptor...which I remember as being the delta. if I am wrong, please correct me.
This species has the same type of deep, bright blue fruits that the other species have, though I dont know if the seeds of this species are used to make the hard jewelry quality beads that most people consider a rudraksha. I know a Hawiian species produces large, softer seeds, that look nice, but lack the shine and toughness of the E. Ganitrus/Sphaericus species.
I have searched for information about any commercial source of this leaf, and also searched for information about alkaloid content in the rudraksha producing species Ganitrus/Sphaericus.
So far I havnt found anything interesting.
The Ganitrus/Sphaericus species are know for medicinal properties, I have read a little info about Sphaericus and analgesic properties as well as potentiating the hypnotic effect of phenobarb. I would expect that the Ganitrus species has similiar use, as these two seperate species are interchangeably used as the classic rudraksha.
so now the question I want to answer for myself, is does the obtainable powder of the Sphaericus/Ganitrus seed contain similiar o-opioid agonist compounds to those found in the leaf material of the E. Grandis species, or other possible opioids?
Wouldnt be hard for me to confirm that there is similiar chemistry, all I need is a few grams of correctly identified E. Grandis leaf, and to order some seed powder. send the material to my chemist freind, and hopefully interest him in doing TLC/HPLC research. He has done this before for me with leaves from Tabernaemontana Pachysiphon that I ordered from Africa, and the Taberneamontana Holstii leaf material that I harvested from my live specimens of that species. He confirmed that many of the alkaloids of the two species were similar or the same. including the active materials that I was interested in.
While I dont get too excited over this "find" I think it is really interesting, and I think that despite the outcome in obtaining rare leaf material, that I will still order some E. Ganitrus seed powder and see how that material is as an herbal. anything analgesic is welcome in my house
OM NAMA SHIVAYA.