Just got home from jail.

[chemboy7]

So the other night subs just weren't cutting it and I needed to make a stop out at the partyhouse to get some whiskey in my system; and the plan worked as I knew it would, until my car met a tree... couple of trees I guess. And I decided that the best solution was to crawl from the burning wreckage and try to hide deep in the woods; the dogs of course found my drunk, sorry ass trying to conceal himself with snow. Long story short, my car is a lump of charcoal, I'm an idiot who just got home from a day in a half stay WDing in the bulltank (which is meant to house around 25, we were packed upto about 60 at one point) taking turns sharing the bathroom with another inmate who had what was assumed is a staph infection... which is great because I have open sores all over my body and I was sleeping on the floor/sharing bits of vomitting and explosive shitting with this guy. Oh yeah, and the county jail has a bug and heat problem... it was absolutely lovely. Anyways, I am home and licking my wounds right now; probably going to go to the hospital tommarrow (more like definately) because I seriously fucked my jaw up on my steering wheel. So for all the people that were waiting for me to respond, sorry I was alittle tied up, I will get with you very soon. Promiss. Although I am still in a good deal of pain, I have sub in my system, I got out of jail, and they didn't notice the open liquer bottles in the car or paraphenalia, plus I don't think I am being charged with fleeing the scene or driving w/o insurance so that's really good. A hell of alot better than I was a few hours ago, that's for sure. But now my family has gone all fucking intervention on my ass, and you know how trying that is... not something that's comforting me at the moment. I am sure that there is a lesson to be learned in all this, it'll probably start sinking in alittle deeper on Jan. 29 when I am sentenced.

I'm an idiot (and not trying to shift the blame at all), but alcohol is a nasty, disgusting, horrible drug; and I don't think I will be fucking with it again. Although I have said that before. I have to drop the title off to the tow yard sometime this week so they can junk it, I'll try to get some pics to post; looking at that wreckage it appears I am lucky to be alive.

[moviebuff927]

Glad to hear you're okay and you survived! Were you wearing a seatbelt? Sorry to hear you had to spend a day or so in the bulltank (been there on many occassions, though I don't think it ever reached 60 deep in there).

I wish you the best of luck when you are sentenced.

I, too, have stayed away from alcohol since a bad accident several years ago. I can't even stand the smell of it. I can damn near vomit just smelling any alcoholic beverage. And I used to be a damn heavy drinker, too.

Anyway, good to hear you're okay and hope things look better for you!

- m o v i e b u f f

[chemboy7]

Glad to hear you're okay and you survived! Were you wearing a seatbelt? Sorry to hear you had to spend a day or so in the bulltank (been there on many occassions, though I don't think it ever reached 60 deep in there).

I wish you the best of luck when you are sentenced.

I, too, have stayed away from alcohol since a bad accident several years ago. I can't even stand the smell of it. I can damn near vomit just smelling any alcoholic beverage. And I used to be a damn heavy drinker, too.

Anyway, good to hear you're okay and hope things look better for you!

- m o v i e b u f f

I was definately fastened in, I always wear my seatbelt. Had I not I know I would have made my way through the windsheild and probably not been able to even think of fleeing. Ah, just alittle pissed at myself for getting piss-faced and getting behind the wheel. I honestly don't even like the high alcohol produces, never really have, so why do I keep returning? Fuck all if I know, I was just feeling alittle empty with the subs and... there's no excuse really. Hopefully this incident sways me from it, maybe I will blow the photo up to poster size and have it plastered where I have to see it everyday; this is your car on alcohol. Hahaha. Thanks for the concern though; I am doing my best to try and keep my mind off of the court date at the moment. It won't make it go away but I just don't feel like dealing with it right now. The time will come. And my record is realitively clean and it's my first offense of this type; other than paying out my ass and losing my car and licence for 6 months (and all that lovely shite) I don't think I will have too much to worry about... fingers crossed, of course. Still trying to think of ways to hide shit on my body incase I do get some time out of it... nothing worse than being that desperate in those settings. Trying to taper it down before then is probably a better bet, I tend to only be screwing myself lately... don't need a drug charge added, ya know?

edit: ever notice how the smell of jail comes with you? I can't seem to wash this stench off me. It really isn't pleasant.

[Curio]

glad to hear you made it out of the wreck and the jail alive!

[robojunkie]

Hey chem,

That sucks, man! (Or I could be an optimist and say wow its good to hear you're not more fucked up from it, but I'm a pessimist, so as I said, that sucks!) Three of four arrest for me involved alcohol, shittiest fucking drug. Hopefully you won't get time though if the only victim was your car and a tree...I drove wasted and slid into a tree, totaled the car and the cops found a near empty bottle of black cherry cisco (tums, please!) on my floor and tracks on my arm once they searched me at the station...but once I got to court the lawyer (and lucky for me an old school seemingly drunken Irish judge) got me a deal where all I had to do was go to drug counseling cause the system apparently felt that more important than the mandatory DWI school that you have to pay out the ass for. The counseling was paid w/ insurance...judge even suspended all the fines/penalties except for two months no license. Blew a 0.19 too, and was under 21 way back when.

[chemboy7]

Blew a 0.19 too, and was under 21 way back when.

I blew a 2.5 something or other, alittle hazey, that is why it was a day and a half in the bulltank... had to be 0.00 to leave, even if I was sick and in need of medical attention. The jail actually has nurses, but I was not allowed to talk with them one on one and have doubts about whether the officers relayed my cries for help at all, fucking pricks. Cops are worse than alcohol; if cops were drugs they would be Naltrexone... they serve a purpose but they just don't gel with who I am.

[geanine.aurora]

Wow, It sounds like you learned a serious lesson that luckily no one -except yourself- was hurt by. Alcohol can be a crazy drug, So can benzos in moderate to high doses. I'ts weird once you know that something so messed up can happen so easily you know you have to set some major limits. One of the things I have usually found true with drugs llike opiates is that you usually are aware when it's time to say I can't get behind a wheel.

[Duckfeet]

So the other night subs just weren't cutting it and I needed to make a stop out at the partyhouse to get some whiskey in my system; and the plan worked as I knew it would, until my car met a tree... couple of trees I guess. And I decided that the best solution was to crawl from the burning wreckage and try to hide deep in the woods; the dogs of course found my drunk, sorry ass trying to conceal himself with snow. Long story short, my car is a lump of charcoal, I'm an idiot who just got home from a day in a half stay WDing in the bulltank (which is meant to house around 25, we were packed upto about 60 at one point) taking turns sharing the bathroom with another inmate who had what was assumed is a staph infection... which is great because I have open sores all over my body and I was sleeping on the floor/sharing bits of vomitting and explosive shitting with this guy. Oh yeah, and the county jail has a bug and heat problem... it was absolutely lovely. Anyways, I am home and licking my wounds right now; probably going to go to the hospital tommarrow (more like definately) because I seriously fucked my jaw up on my steering wheel. So for all the people that were waiting for me to respond, sorry I was alittle tied up, I will get with you very soon. Promiss. Although I am still in a good deal of pain, I have sub in my system, I got out of jail, and they didn't notice the open liquer bottles in the car or paraphenalia, plus I don't think I am being charged with fleeing the scene or driving w/o insurance so that's really good. A hell of alot better than I was a few hours ago, that's for sure. But now my family has gone all fucking intervention on my ass, and you know how trying that is... not something that's comforting me at the moment. I am sure that there is a lesson to be learned in all this, it'll probably start sinking in alittle deeper on Jan. 29 when I am sentenced.

I'm an idiot (and not trying to shift the blame at all), but alcohol is a nasty, disgusting, horrible drug; and I don't think I will be fucking with it again. Although I have said that before. I have to drop the title off to the tow yard sometime this week so they can junk it, I'll try to get some pics to post; looking at that wreckage it appears I am lucky to be alive.

Yeah, I've got one of those two, in my past. Sounds like a horrible time, bro. Take care of yourself, now that it's happened. I got my dui dropped to a reckless driving, or something like that, seemed like a better deal, but I saw some shyster lawyer, and this was before MADD got all crazy w/mandatory sentencing and shit...

Well, I'm off to hit the rack, just wanted to tell u to take care of yourself, go easy, maybe get a lawyer, spend a day just watching movies, drink some juice, don't be too hard on yourself...those miserable drunk tanks hit a man's soul hard...best wishes to you....

[robojunkie]

if cops were drugs they would be Naltrexone...

Can't wait for a chance to use that line...funny, but true!

[Chemical_Boy]

I'm an idiot (and not trying to shift the blame at all), but alcohol is a nasty, disgusting, horrible drug; and I don't think I will be fucking with it again. Although I have said that before. I have to drop the title off to the tow yard sometime this week so they can junk it, I'll try to get some pics to post; looking at that wreckage it appears I am lucky to be alive.

I agree about the alcohol. I was a binge-drinking alcoholic at one point but was able to give it up pretty easily because it is not my drug of choice. In fact the only time I really like a booze buzz is when I have a booze buzz. If you are like me, and have a good reason to quit and really decide to, I don't think that you will have a problem. I decided to stop drinking about 8 or 9 months ago and haven't touched a drop since. Course I started fucking around more with other stuff, but that is a different story. . .

I am glad you made it out of there in one piece, and that is cool that they didn't find the party goods in the car. Good luck man!

[oxymoron]

bummer, glad to hear you weren't seriously injured. I've done my share of drunk driving, but have always been lucky, knock on wood. I drink everyday, but very rarely get drunk, just a nice relaxing buzz, so I can calm down and sleep after a usually stressful day of work. Drinking a quart of cheap ass miller right now, would rather spend money on real drugs. I've never been arrested while drunk, only while on speed, being in jail on speed sux too.

[nick]

Oh man,I don't know what to say,but I'm sorry and take good care-you'd be missed.

[vicious86]

Everyone has there bad days. At least your still able to get high and maby the hospital will give u something really good. Withdrawing in jail is the absolute worst experience of my life . I totally know what u went through. My toilet didnt flush though. Go treat yourself . The smell and sight of booze makes me sick too. Havent had a driknk in yrs and i dont miss it at all.

[devilsdrug]

dammint , i guess we knew the was about to happen what with the benzo skirminises, so unless u go totally fukken psycho i d say this type of behavior wont happen agaiin for a long time, ur sharp enough to figure the lessons learned here , watch out now

[chemboy7]

Hmm, looking over my tickets it look's like I was wrong, I am being charged with fleeing the scene. The box next to felony is checked but it is wrote on a misdeminor slip and misdeminor is circled above the checked box in a different color ink. Totally look's like I tampered with it but it's comforting to know that it's on a misdeminor slip... can't forge that. Either way its making the possibility of jail time more real. It would probably be a short amount of time, I would assume, and atleast I would have my own cell. Ugh. Still no sign of the open containers or my not having insurance (not that I hurt anything but myself) so that is good; don't think they can spring extra cases at you at the last minute... hope not anyways. Looking at OUI, fleeing, and refusing to submit to a breathilizer (I don't even remember that, remember them taking blood though) all of those are misdeminor charges though. Other than a slighter more rapid taper and contacting an attorney I'm gonna try not to even think about any of that mess until I'm standing in court.

dammint , i guess we knew the was about to happen what with the benzo skirminises, so unless u go totally fukken psycho i d say this type of behavior wont happen agaiin for a long time, ur sharp enough to figure the lessons learned here , watch out now


Hahaha, I knew somebody was going to bring that up.

[reddragon3668]

dammint , i guess we knew the was about to happen what with the benzo skirminises, so unless u go totally fukken psycho i d say this type of behavior wont happen agaiin for a long time, ur sharp enough to figure the lessons learned here , watch out now

That's good advice! And, can't help myself here, but damn! I understood all of that on the first on the first read! :D

chemboy, sorry to hear about your ordeal! Reminds me of a lapse of sanity that I had back in 1999... and here I am thanking god they didn't get the dogs out on my ass... I got lucky and laid in some bushes long enough to sober up...but a k-9 would have got me in no time flat! Alcohol is the worst drug I know. I've gotten lucky over the years, but the only real trouble I've ever been in was due to it.... I gave it up several years back and agree with others, I get sick myself at the smell of it.... I'm a bad alcoholic, and the last time I went through a drinking binge/spell, I did not have allot of money... I guess it was too many mornings waking up to shots of cheapass burnettes vodka.... god I could puke right now thinking of it!

Hope everything works out for ya! Living to learn is well worth it!

[devilsdrug]

what i wanna know did u get any sos for breakfast?

[southernbelle]

Sorry to hear about your ordeal, Chem! At least you weren't hurt too badly. Good luck with the courts and all. Let us know what's going on and if there's anything we can do to help....And, PLEASE take care of those open sores. A staph infection is nothing to play with!

[Euphoricgirl]

Sorry to hear about your misfortune Chem. Hope all goes well for you and keep us informed.

[HistoryofMadness]

goddammit man that's hard to hear. glad you at least made it out alive. multiplicity in charges is a classic way for 'the system' to force you out of open court and into a plea. since its open and shut for them you should be able to at least get the fleeing or refusing to submit dropped... miminize penalty and get off with some probation or light time or house arrest or something.

anyway good luck and we're rootin for ya!

oh and thanks for the reminder about alcohol i really almost forgot how nasty it was

[ZodiacKiller]

Glad to hear you're ok, Chem....if you need to, you may wanna look into getting a lawyer. But at least you're alive!

State laws are fucked--remember that van accident I had this past summer? Well, apparently one of the insurance companies has filed some bullshit w/ the state and if I don't provide a notarized payment agreement for reimbursement by Feb 6th, I will lose my lisence indefinitely. So, more hoops to jump through and more money to pay that I don't have.

Anyway, glad you're ok, and here's hoping for no jail time!



ZK

[vicious86]

Hmm, looking over my tickets it look's like I was wrong, I am being charged with fleeing the scene. The box next to felony is checked but it is wrote on a misdeminor slip and misdeminor is circled above the checked box in a different color ink. Totally look's like I tampered with it but it's comforting to know that it's on a misdeminor slip... can't forge that. Either way its making the possibility of jail time more real. It would probably be a short amount of time, I would assume, and atleast I would have my own cell. Ugh. Still no sign of the open containers or my not having insurance (not that I hurt anything but myself) so that is good; don't think they can spring extra cases at you at the last minute... hope not anyways. Looking at OUI, fleeing, and refusing to submit to a breathilizer (I don't even remember that, remember them taking blood though) all of those are misdeminor charges though. Other than a slighter more rapid taper and contacting an attorney I'm gonna try not to even think about any of that mess until I'm standing in court.



Hahaha, I knew somebody was going to bring that up.


Is it possible to refuse a blood test as well?

[nick]

Chem bro,you aren't going to thank me for writing this,but YOU did it,you were drunk and fleeing arrest.
Maybe time to think of a route forward that keeps you out of jail.
I only wrote this because I enjoy your presence and don't want to see BAD things happen and your recent posts don't fill me with optimism.
I wish you nothing but luck and as my dear old mum says it's better to be lucky than rich.
Get your head straight-told you,you wouldn't thank me.

[alowishus]

What's up chem, my brother, sorry to hear mate. Intervention? for what, being a bad driver? :D

Yeah, agreed, get a blood sucking lawyer, no matter what. Don't fuck around w/ your freedom.

Glad, for the most part, your alright.

W/o all these fun little moments, we'd have nothing to link the long, dull, times of nomalcy together.

[jab]

Is it possible to refuse a blood test as well?

In most states you agree to submit to any alcohol test as part of having the lisence. So, no, you can't really refuse. And if you try they'll get a court order and take what they want. pigs!

Good luck Chem.. I'll say a prayer for you.

Be sarfe.

[alowishus]

In most states you agree to submit to any alcohol test as part of having the lisence. So, no, you can't really refuse. And if you try they'll get a court order and take what they want. pigs!

Good luck Chem.. I'll say a prayer for you.

Be sarfe.


They can't do a invasive search, w/o your say so, unless your in the hospital, and the doc's have to draw/test blood it could be called in to court or you are covered in it, then they can take as much as they want, they got a few people like that, even though it could be someone else's - gotta love red tape killers like that.

You can do it here in FLA, you lose your lic. for a yr, but no DUI and all the other crap, unless of course if there's prop. damage or some body's hurt. My bubby did it, he got pulled over for 51 in a 45, had drinks in him, said no thanks to the breath test, he went to get proccesed and released for a court date, they let me drive the car and wait for him, and I was as drunk as he. :rolleyes:

[nick]

THEY can do what they want.The question is how much do they want you.

[alowishus]

THEY can do what they want.The question is how much do they want you.

Never heard true'er words.

Even for you over there w/ mouth swabs outside the bars and clubs; random on the street or did they stop that one yet? :rolleyes:

[Chemical_Boy]

Chem bro,you aren't going to thank me for writing this,but YOU did it,you were drunk and fleeing arrest.
Maybe time to think of a route forward that keeps you out of jail.
I only wrote this because I enjoy your presence and don't want to see BAD things happen and your recent posts don't fill me with optimism.
I wish you nothing but luck and as my dear old mum says it's better to be lucky than rich.
Get your head straight-told you,you wouldn't thank me.


Might be true but go easy on the guy. I would guess that more than 90% of the people on this site could or should be changing the direction of our lives. I don't think there are any saints on here you know? We all have times where we make some choices that might not be the best, I know I sure as hell have.

[Eacey]

Ive had my share of drunk driving, but I never got caught. I emphasize the never got caught, because that was just lucky. I look back on it and driving as drunk as I was, thats just asking for shit to hit the fan. Glad youre ok man, and I hope everything works out.

[zombiewoof23]

Might be true but go easy on the guy. I would guess that more than 90% of the people on this site could or should be changing the direction of our lives. I don't think there are any saints on here you know? We all have times where we make some choices that might not be the best, I know I sure as hell have.

There's nothing wrong with a little wisdom coming from an older respected member of the site, even if it's not something we want to hear. He's just trying to look out for chem since he is also a long time respected member and friend of the site.

[chemboy7]

Well, I just got done talking with one hell of a schister lawyer; came highly reccomended from the criminal crowd that I know. He says he is pretty sure he can get everything but the OUI dropped, even though he is sure the judge wants to make an example out of me (guess I got a real demon up there on the stand) due to how many different police agencies came out of the blue to find me out there in the woods... I actually made the paper. Anyways, going to run me pretty deep; but I'm asshole over head in debt right now... might as well add to the heap if it's going to save my freedom. He said he is also going to have a good bail bonds man to look out for me in case the judge sets a bail at my arraignment so I don't have to go back to jail, not on Monday atleast. I just hope that smooth talking mf can grease the rails enough to get me out of there without too much of a spanking.

[Chemical_Boy]

There's nothing wrong with a little wisdom coming from an older respected member of the site, even if it's not something we want to hear. He's just trying to look out for chem since he is also a long time respected member and friend of the site.

Yeah I hear you man. And I don't mean that I disagree with Nick it is a good point. The only thing I meant was that we usually know when we have messed up especially when it comes to drugs or alcohol as it tends to be a reoccurring theme in a lot of our lives. I know that it is in mine anyway. Some of us have fucked up things happen to us and we turn our lives to a different direction- if only for a while- based on the consequences of those fucked up things and some of us keep going down the same path. But either way we usually know what we are doing and accept the consequences. Guess I don't really have a point I am trying to make other than I feel for Chem as I have done some unwise shit in the past (and present) even though I knew what I was doing and the possible outcome. That doesn't mean it's right and I am not trying to justify anything. . .It's just that this probably isn't the greatest of times for Chem and we all have enough people to tell us where we went wrong, whether or not the error was on purpose or not.

That said, I am not trying to say Nick didn't have a point or that he was wrong to speak his mind. And I definitely didn't mean any disrespect to him or anything like that. I enjoy reading Nicks posts as they are often filled with good advice and knowledge and this one was no different. I just know how it feels to be in Chem's shoes.

[HistoryofMadness]

Is it possible to refuse a blood test as well?

there has actually been a court case, state appeals i think, that ruled drawing blood for alcohol/drug testing to be unconstitutional... but the grounds were totally different - i think the cops were trying to charge the guy with possession..

hell i might be wrong about the whole thing, but i KNOW this came up in constitional law class - fuck weed man that shit has ruined my life. and thank L. Ron for westlaw!

[nick]

Sure guys,I meant no harm,I just want someone I respect to make it though in one piece.

[Cybershark]

Good luck Chemboy, I am glad you survived the crash and are o.k. I sure hope they do not really fuck you up in the court system. Maybe you will get by with like probation and alcohol classes. I sure have loved your posts over the last 8 months or so. Fuck I hate cops so god damn much! Shit I got busted ten years ago for selling pot and they put me away on my first offense for 14 months in Prison :mad: . They can all lick my ball sack. I mean damn it was only weed and only a pound at that. :(

[Duckfeet]

what i wanna know did u get any sos for breakfast?
Ohh mann, I'm gettng all sentimental, now: tube steak and shit ona shingle...how good can it get?!: them 3 hots bro, had it made! Best was always Louisiana, all around, and OC jail out here, taco nite...whoop whoop!!! Oh wait, don't wanna forget throwin a 3muskateers zoozoo late at nite in cup w/water, and heatin up that bitch over a toilet paper stove: man, that was *livin!*

[alowishus]

Ohh mann, I'm gettng all sentimental, now: tube steak and shit ona shingle...how good can it get?!: them 3 hots bro, had it made! Best was always Louisiana, all around, and OC jail out here, taco nite...whoop whoop!!! Oh wait, don't wanna forget throwin a 3muskateers zoozoo late at nite in cup w/water, and heatin up that bitch over a toilet paper stove: man, that was *livin!*

We got Mac D's every other fri. :D :p

"Are you ready to rumble?"

[kyuss]

Hate hearing that CB.
At least they didn't
find the dope-coulda
been a lot worse.
You're still breathing,
that's the main thing.
It will be a bitch
but,you'll get through it.
Definitely get a good lawyer.

[Duckfeet]

Well, I just got done talking with one hell of a schister lawyer; came highly reccomended from the criminal crowd that I know. He says he is pretty sure he can get everything but the OUI dropped, even though he is sure the judge wants to make an example out of me (guess I got a real demon up there on the stand) due to how many different police agencies came out of the blue to find me out there in the woods... I actually made the paper. Anyways, going to run me pretty deep; but I'm asshole over head in debt right now... might as well add to the heap if it's going to save my freedom. He said he is also going to have a good bail bonds man to look out for me in case the judge sets a bail at my arraignment so I don't have to go back to jail, not on Monday atleast. I just hope that smooth talking mf can grease the rails enough to get me out of there without too much of a spanking.


Chem: sounds to me like ur doing what u need to do...once u get out of the hellhole, make some kind of bail, then u've got a leg to stand on, and the fact that it's misdemeanors, not felonies all looks good to me...usually once yer out, all they want to do is clear the books, so they'll probably offer u a deal, where u just cop to some lowlevel beef, and time served. Good on the lawyer-bailbondsman thing too...I mean, there is *nothing* worse than those damn holding cell/drunk tank shirtbirds...I think one of the main reason, sometimes, guys who can't make bail, cop a plea, is just to get to the pen, where u can eat better, get outside, get organized. Again, u've made bail, gotcha a lawyer, being hardnosed about it, I admire that, is only way to fly, not crying, doin whatcha need to do, hang in there bro...

[Chemical_Boy]

Sure guys,I meant no harm,I just want someone I respect to make it though in one piece.

Cheers to that man!
I meant no harm or insult either.

[chemboy7]

Yeah, I feel alot better about the situation having this lawyer sticking up for me... from what everyone tells me he works maricles and is worth every dime of the small fortune he is charging me. On top of that the county jail is severely over populated. Like I said, cells were full and all new arivals were packed into the drunktank. That thing is made for 25-30 people tops and there was damn near 60 of 'em the tank at one point. They had the two of 'em right next to each other merge for like 20 minutes while they cleaned out the empty tank with antibacterial (a la the staph infection guy and my sickness and blood); that was just too packed. So if I do get any time out of it I have a good feeling that I will be released early; that or they'll just ship me off elsewhere. Either way, that's the nastiest I have ever seen the county and anywhere would be better than that. Then again they can hold you in that tank for 40 some odd nights before they HAVE to move you. I totally agree though, your own cell beats the fucking bulltank everytime; shit atleast there you can try to sleep through most of the time (and they don't try taking your blanket away from you at 7 in the morning).

[devilsdrug]

i consider myself a connasuer(expert) on sos , ive sampled approximately 12 co. jails, 13 state prisons in ca. and or. , countless coffee shops and rest. and of course make my own, the best is a coffee shop in rio dell , calif the shit of all shit

[oxymoron]

i consider myself a connasuer(expert) on sos , ive sampled approximately 12 co. jails, 13 state prisons in ca. and or. , countless coffee shops and rest. and of course make my own, the best is a coffee shop in rio dell , calif the shit of all shit

I only sampled the sos in one county jail (placer county, ca), and it was one of the favored menu items, we all kinda looked forward to it, the lasagna was really good too, I even made it myself once when I was workng in the kitchen. Jailhouse cuisine, and jail in general ain't all that great though. Surely one of the lowpoints of my life, and I have a few.

[nick]

Good lawyer=good thinking.You can't put a price on freedom.

[tptptp]

Dude, glad you're alright and all but drinking and driving is a big no no in my book, and im a junky....endangering yourself is one thing but risking endangering others is another.

I know sometimes when your f'd up you dont even remember what you did and again I hope you're alright.....good luck in court and all drinking and driving problems are expensive $$$$$$$$$$$

[Chemical_Boy]

Good lawyer=good thinking.You can't put a price on freedom.

That's the truth. Only chance to have anything work out well in a situation like that is with a money-draining lawyer. It never ceases to amaze me how the same charge can end up with such a different punishment for someone with a private lawyer vs someone with a public defender.

[scikid]

Glad your okay... live and learn

[chemboy7]

I got around to taking the title upto the tow yard today and got to snap some pictures of the wrech in question; I'll post a few of 'em so you guys can see what an idiot and how lucky I really was.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9338/cartotallytrashedqk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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Here's SWIM trying to get a half way melted tire out of the trunk... it didn't bulgde but got him afully dirty. The whole car went up in flames, everything from the hood to the trunk is burnt to a crisp. Anything that could burn did. You can see in that pic with the blocked out shit they wrote on my door that the whole inside is burnt out and all that is left of my seats is the wire that once held the fabric up. When I finally came to the inside of the car had already started fire and I could hear sirens... I just ran. It was a bad choice, but you don't have many options in that state and I was in no possition to be making important desicions. Anywho, that was my car. I went through it as best I could but there was nothing salvagable... I think it got so hot that it destroyed all evidence against me; so that's a good thing. Hahaha, if you don't want them searching your car and finding your shit all you have to do is set it on fire... it's fool proof.

[HistoryofMadness]

running from fire is a natural reaction. running from cops is also a natural reaction.

[nick]

Chem's a lucky boy,but luck only lasts so long.Then you're fucked.

P.S.Amen to the running from cops,sirens et al.The gig is living in such a way that you don't need to run.

[southernbelle]

Dear God Chem!! It's a miracle you made it out of that alive. You're a lucky guy..

[Duckfeet]

yeah, reminded me of my paragliding accident last june. To me, it seemed like the end of the world, all kinds of bad shit happened...but everybody else kept saying how lucky I was, and I'm like "what?!" But I get it now. So I guess it's the same with you. You were really lucky bro! May not seem like it now, but eventually you'll see just how much worse this whole thing could have been, legally and otherwise. but u seem to be dealing with it pretty good, and I wish u well.

[AWOL]

[sorry, only read first post but wanted to chime in while I had a chance to]

omg, I saw the title about jail and I said to myself, I bet it was from driving intoxicated, and it was! holly shit. I'm sorry to hear about the situation, and 4 pages was just too long for me to read through right now but just wanted to say I hope ya make it out alright and all that. Just be glad that you didn't head on another car, or worse run over and kill someones little girl or some kids or another person or something ya know. Could have been a LOT worse, always that silver lining bro. Lucky it was a tree and not killing someone else. After your coulpe of accidents now under the influence I imagine it's been one of those tough lessons learned, but whatever doesn't kills us right? Hang tough man, I know it sucks right now bro but just remember it could have been A LOT worse. Good luck with the courts bro, hopefully since it was just a tree you'll get comunity service or something. Maybe it's about time to get a vespa like duck ;) What if you had to live your life knowing you murdered a little kid or something.

[mrrice11]

Holy Fucking Shit man, thats what cars look like after someone gets blown up or hit by a train or somthing. You could be a vegetable in the hospital, on life support, with no possible hope for recovery, and your fine except for the jaw problem and legal shit. I'd be a new person if i was you...

[devilsdrug]

ok next, didnt u get whiplash or some such horrendous malady for the purpose of being properly medicated

[AWOL]

I read waht I wrote and don't want to come off as sounding like a preachy asshole. I didn't mean that, but it kinda sounds a bit like it. Dude, I've wrecked my car under the influence more than one time and I learned the hard way that even though I feel ok to drive, I'm probably not. I'm really fuckin loaded right now obviously cause I'm makin no sense, but I was just tryin to say .. hey man it does suck bad, but hey atleast it wasn't worse! You're alive, no harm done but to the ego, so I'm glad it wasn't something worse for ya bro. Would have really sucked bad to hear that you got sentanced to prison or something like that. I was quite releived to hear that it was just a tree. :)

[jacky]

take those photos into court and try and fight the fleeing the scene charge by saying that you were in shock and didnt know what the hell was going on.
perhaps that will work.
unless there was conversation and such that you admitted to guild already.

and also, I want to know, did you waive your right to a hospital visit?
did you go direct to jail?
sounds like no one even attempted to see if you were injured?

man, good thing you didnt have a passenger. looking at the photo it seems most likely they would have been mangled.

glad to hear your ok chemboy.
take it easy, and maybe youll have some help quitting alchohol like I did. by getting a big ass swollen liver that pinches and pulls every time you have more than a beer.

let us know what happens in court.

[sebastian869]

if cops were drugs they would be Naltrexone... .
LOL, that the first laugh I had today.

[moviebuff927]

LOL, that the first laugh I had today.

If cops were drugs they would be Naltrexone...

Well, I wouldn't say that...Naltrexone does save lives and does reverse the effects of opiates. I would say that if cops were drugs they would be methanol. You know, the toxic substance you get when you don't do all the right steps when trying to make ethanol, aka alcohol? Well, methanol is the reason that the government legalized alcohol after prohibition because people were getting it although it was illegal but the only problem was some were making the toxic substance methanol because they were doing it half-assed. It can make you go blind, it tastes like ethanol, and it was really disorienting. That's the thought I get when I think of cops.

Or maybe cops are more like alcohol.

Needless to say, cops are by no means the cream of the crop when it comes to drugs.

[chemboy7]

Needless to say, cops are by no means the cream of the crop when it comes to drugs.

Agreed. Don't go bumming that shit. :D

[milkybarkid]

I, slightly, beg to differ. Naloxone saves lives. Naltrexone is for relapse prevention. I once took one by mistake during a period of heavy using. The only time i've ever ended up in hospital. A real fucking awful experience.. hellish

MBK

[chemboy7]

Alright, it's been about 4 days since my accident, if I remember correctly, and I am getting really nervous about some symptoms that just keep getting worse. For one thing my left ear canal is swollen up upon itself so much so that it is painful and hard to get a Q-tip into. My tympanic membrane (ear drum) is full of a constant sharp pain and surrounded by an orangish, sticky yet watery, ear wax that I don't think I have ever encountered before. Not to meantion that I have been unable to wake myself up fully today at all, which is a sign of a head injury. I wasn't too concerned about it until I started waking up and hallucinating half of my family (the drug nazi side) sitting around my bed and searching through my room for what I assum was dope. It all ends the same way everytime, I get annoyed that no one will answer me what the fuck is going on and they are all wispering in each other's ear and then I storm out of the room to see what is happening, tell someone else about it (I actually stopped doing that around time 2 or 3 because it just made my family assume I was hitting back into the good stuff) and then returning to my room to find it empty. I'll tell you guy's its freaking me out. My family has made the group decision that they are not going to be driving me to my courtdates, hospital appointments, community service, P.O. mettings, or any of that good stuff so I think I am going to call an ambulence here in an hour or so to try to get it taken care of... just enough time to smoke alittle weed and calm down a bit. Hopefully the Suboxone won't fuck up their proceedure. I am sorry I have not been up to answering my PMs and Emails lately; I'm starting to think this may be alot more serious than I first assumed. Anyways, I don't know if I will be around for a bit (either because of incarceration or being hospitalized) but I will get ahold of a really good freind on here via phone tonight and at the very least leave a message and let her know what is going on with me incase anyone is wondering. Thanks to all those who showed concern; This place and it's members are awsome. As of right now I am hoping some ear drops and careful suctioning will take care of it and I am just blowing it out of proportion. I am hoping and praying it is though because ear/brain surgery doesn't sound like my idea of a good time tonight, you know?

[Euphoricgirl]

God Chem. Hope you feel better. You better go get that checked out. Thinking of ya.

[milkybarkid]

Go to the doctor - obviously. Hope you don't get bad news

MBK

[nick]

sorry to hear this bro,but look on the brightside at least the family drug nazis aren't in your room.Getting medical help is a wise move.

Go with god-I've got my fngers crossed for you.

[alowishus]

Get yourself well mate, we'll still be here.

It might well just be something in the ear, causeing this. But get looked at either way..


& I have to say, not giving a ride for a court date, Dr.app., etc. is fucked.
THIS is the time you need family, we can't give you a ride but we're still famliy. ;)

[robojunkie]

Alright, it's been about 4 days since my accident, if I remember correctly, and I am getting really nervous about some symptoms that just keep getting worse. For one thing my left ear canal is swollen up upon itself so much so that it is painful and hard to get a Q-tip into. My tympanic membrane (ear drum) is full of a constant sharp pain and surrounded by an orangish, sticky yet watery, ear wax that I don't think I have ever encountered before. Not to meantion that I have been unable to wake myself up fully today at all, which is a sign of a head injury. I wasn't too concerned about it until I started waking up and hallucinating half of my family (the drug nazi side) sitting around my bed and searching through my room for what I assum was dope. It all ends the same way everytime, I get annoyed that no one will answer me what the fuck is going on and they are all wispering in each other's ear and then I storm out of the room to see what is happening, tell someone else about it (I actually stopped doing that around time 2 or 3 because it just made my family assume I was hitting back into the good stuff) and then returning to my room to find it empty. I'll tell you guy's its freaking me out. My family has made the group decision that they are not going to be driving me to my courtdates, hospital appointments, community service, P.O. mettings, or any of that good stuff so I think I am going to call an ambulence here in an hour or so to try to get it taken care of... just enough time to smoke alittle weed and calm down a bit. Hopefully the Suboxone won't fuck up their proceedure. I am sorry I have not been up to answering my PMs and Emails lately; I'm starting to think this may be alot more serious than I first assumed. Anyways, I don't know if I will be around for a bit (either because of incarceration or being hospitalized) but I will get ahold of a really good freind on here via phone tonight and at the very least leave a message and let her know what is going on with me incase anyone is wondering. Thanks to all those who showed concern; This place and it's members are awsome. As of right now I am hoping some ear drops and careful suctioning will take care of it and I am just blowing it out of proportion. I am hoping and praying it is though because ear/brain surgery doesn't sound like my idea of a good time tonight, you know?

Dude,

Get that fuckin checked out yesterday! Don't fuck around with head injuries man...ya never know what's going on in there damage wise. I got a head injury with days of blackout and dumbass doc just sent me home to rest and vomit, be tired dizzy and different size pupils (key sign from what I've been told of TBI type injury). Wasn't even 15 yet and this fucked me up for years. Some, if not most, TBIs or other brain trauma can be mitigated if dealt with very quickly. Once past though its on the brain to heal and for me under 15 then with a very mildly still "elastic" brain was able to get over most, but not all, effects in, oh, several years. "Normal" one day, then a sudden clinical OCD, major depression, clinical anxiety and total inability to focus and organize shit. All but the last slowly receded over the years for the most part but if you're hallucinating, dizzy, etc after already 4 days you gotta get it checked. The older you are the more permanent any damage can be...Hopefully it's just a ruptured eardrum or some inner ear damage, I think that would explain most of the symptoms, but still...I can trace virtually all of my downward spiral shit when I was younger to this event.

[chemboy7]

& I have to say, not giving a ride for a court date, Dr.app., etc. is fucked.
THIS is the time you need family, we can't give you a ride but we're still famliy. ;)

You know, I had read that part of your response before I left for the ER tonight and I gotta say, you took the words out of my mouth verbatium. I don't hate saying it so much as I hate realizing the validity ot the statement.

The fucked up thing is it is my mom who is spearheading this drug czar campaign... seriously messed up when it is a fact that I know no bigger cokehead than my mom. There are so many times I have to end up paying her share of the rent and bills and shit because she goes and gets rocked out with her money without thinking. I am not living with my mom solely because I am not making enough to be a full time student and afford to have my own place. Sure, it helps... I have more money left over for "recreational activities" and what not; but the main reason I am here is because my mom is not mature enough to live on her own yet. And she has the fucking gull to threaten to sign out of the lease early and fuck me into being homeless until God know's when. I got back from the ER tonight with a script for 10mg of Valium 2x a day (which is just a drop in the bucket really) and she snatched them from me and said some shit like "I will let you have 5mg 2x a day... you don't need anymore than that". Gee, thanks for saving my life Doctor Mom! How much does anyone want to bet that I see maybe half of that script if I am lucky. Not to meantion she has confinscated all my dope except small amounts of pot and 1 of my favorite glass pieces; she was going to let me keep my subs to keep me from getting sick but she decided today that that was just too humane of her so she went ahead and filled my bottle with water and flushed them all down the toilet. I don't have a script for that shit and it is impossible for me to get anymore. It would be one thing if she were honestly concerned about my well-being but she is doing all this to be vindictive... no other reason at all. She has always been like that to me, not any of my siblings; she just likes to see me suffer. I love her for being my mom and all but if she keeps pulling this shit I am going to find it near impossible to act christianly toward her in the future. I am so beyond fucking close to waiting until a few days before rent and everything is due and just raid her stash and leave her high and dry like she thinks is so funny to do to me. It's not like she needs the dope anyways... she isn't even a chipper she is hardcore into stimulants and that's about it; it's more about getting personal satisfaction just from the act of fucking me over at my lowest point. I know I couldn't do it just yet, and not just because I couldn't affort to do it either; I have many freinds that would be more than happy considering the circumstances to let me stay as long as I needed to get back on my feet... just feel's wrong to me. But let's see where I stand after another 3 weeks of this shit. Grr. I am starting to see why the majority of my family has written her off now. That IS fucked that she could laugh about doing shit like that to her first born son though, I agree. I just don't understand it. I thought it was bad when I tried getting ahold of her from jail (just to pick me up by the way, I had no bail and offered to fill her tank and get her stoned, and she just did this *heavy sigh* type bitchy throat noise in the phone and hung up on me, I really thought that was the worst she was gonna get... I guess that was just the beginning to her little game though. Tough love my ass, I am damn near going on 30 and helping her out a hell of alot more than she is me; bout time for a fucking reality lesson I'd say. Sorry for being blunt mom, but fuck you. Naw, I couldn't do that really; but I am going to start stashing money away and move back to my old house. I would be paying significantly less per month, my frends (who are real freinds) are always bitching that I live too far away anyways, I'd be closer to work, hook-ups, court, probation officer, school and likewise drunk horny college chicks, and although there were crazy parties almost every weekend mostly full of people I don't know from Jack; I had alot less shit stolen from me there and had to deal with so much less drama. It's sounding better by the minute, let me tell you.

Anyways, just kind of steaming about that, didn't mean to go off on a rant. The good news out of the deal is that although the ER doc was baffled by the hallucinations; he was pretty sure it was an interaction happening somewhere between the Suboxone, Oraflex (think that's what it was called, it twas my first time with that muscle relaxer. I think), Benadryl, and Loperamide... I have my doubts but he wrote me a refillable script for Valium, and it look's like there are prospects of getting that bumped to whatever benzo I want if I play my cards right; and he hooked me up with a specialist that wants to start me on pain management for my neck problems (that are new from the accident) and my unidentified lower back problem that the ER doc had noticed me dancing around bending doing his little movement tests. I guess this guy is one of the "good docs"... he actually said that, hahaha, made the gooseflesh stand up on my skin man. Plus the specialist in question works with the insurance that the good old ER doc was good enough to point me in the direction of. This is my 4th trip to the ER in the past, I dunno, month and a half; and the first time I got someone who I actually gave me the impression that he is honestly concerned with my well-being and willing to hook me up with some half-way decent scripts all along the way. That news outshines all right now, I'm so ecstatic to go and meet with this guy sometime this week. Even if I get locked up I will get my meds so no jailhouse kick for me; just bones, bullshiting, and stashing away pills. Fuck it sounds better than where I am right now. Hahaha.

Still no MRI, so with just the original x-rays (which didn't get the side of my head the ear thing is on) and CAT-Scan I am unsure whether there is damage done or not. I assume so with all the symptoms of TBI/MTBI that I am exhibiting not to meantion all the blows I took when I was into sports and boxing when I was younger. That isn't something I am looking forward to (well, not the head injury... I look forward to copping the meds; as much and as strong as I can manage to weasle out of his script pad) but I KNOW that if I can get that guy talking about my lower back that I have a pretty good chance of working my way up the ladder ever so carefully to finally get myself a decent monthly script. Didn't expect all that out of it, guess I am a lucky bastard... I luck out someimes. Granted, I am going to be going through some shit here very shortly regarless or added to my legal toubles; just no getting around it that I can see, with how locked down I am now... but it look's like if I can hold out and grit my teeth long enough that this whole thing just may work out in my favor after all. Provided I didn't fuck myself up in the head too severely. :rolleyes:

[Dolophine]

Uhhh I hate to be a dick but your mom seems like a total bitch! If my mom did that I would smack her in the face. Who the fuck is she to preach anti-drug shit to you if she's a fucking crack-head or stimulant user or whatever she is. And to throw out your subs? thats just unforgiveable, i would've shanked the bitch. IF my mom did that to me, and i was going to have to go through suffering now ALONG with the fucking MAJOR SUFFERING from the legal troubles, car crash etc, i would fucking snap and dunk her head in a toilet. Like why the fuck wouldn't she just leave your shit there so you can at least stop from being sick as a dog while trying to figure out your shit. Man, what a fucking grrr that makes me so mad. Sorry your gonna flame me but I'm speaking my mind. You will always love your mom, but fuck man, moms can be such twats. I love my mom but sometimes she's a total cuntscab. Sheesh....Good luck with your legal troubles. If you had someone next to you in the car they would be dead I hope you know that. You're really "lucky". You're lucky you don't have to think about the person you killed while driving drunk. You're lucky you didn't give someone a ride home and kill them in that accident. Your car was totally totalled. Fucking ridiculously totalled.

See if you can use the shock thing to explain running away too. If there is fire your instinct is to run like hell. Just say you didn't know what was going on you were shocked and you were in pain and soothing your wounds in the snowbank or something. Cuz fuck i would run if that happened to me, just from the shock alone. I would book it far far away from any bad accident like that. That's a serious wreck. Good luck

[Curio]

why on earth did the ER write you a Valium script when you had back pain and signs/symptoms of a head injury???? and not only no new x-rays or a CT, but no MRI either? all these tests weren't done but the idiot thinks it was a medication reaction? you have hallucinations and he gave you valium to take home? uh....okay, that will really CLEAR your head...

and yeah chem, your mom's gotta get kicked to the curb....it's weird what we put up with because we've gotten used to it...until we tell people and suddenly realize what our stinking reality is....that's how it's been recently talking to a few opiophiles about the family situation here...call the cops ON ME? kick ME out? restraining order ON ME? as YOU yell and come flying across the room AT ME???

family....they pretty much suck arse..

[chemboy7]

why on earth did the ER write you a Valium script when you had back pain and signs/symptoms of a head injury???? and not only no new x-rays or a CT, but no MRI either? all these tests weren't done but the idiot thinks it was a medication reaction? you have hallucinations and he gave you valium to take home? uh....okay, that will really CLEAR your head...

and yeah chem, your mom's gotta get kicked to the curb....it's weird what we put up with because we've gotten used to it...until we tell people and suddenly realize what our stinking reality is....that's how it's been recently talking to a few opiophiles about the family situation here...call the cops ON ME? kick ME out? restraining order ON ME? as YOU yell and come flying across the room AT ME???

family....they pretty much suck arse..

Well, I wasn't going there for the lower back pain; I was more worried about a counter coup off my dash or steering wheel going that fast... and yeah, the hallucintations for sure. He noticed that I was having troubles with my lower back because whenever I would push it to far he had to basically guide me in the front and back to hold me up (he was wanting me to slowly sway back and forth on my tip toes and then on my heels and I about fell on my ass). He also noticed how my hands were shaking, that's normal sometimes and I told him about my past anxiiety presciptions so he wrote me the Valium to calm my nevers, relax my muscles, and hopefull illiminate the mild shakes I muscle spasms that have been waking me up late at night thus bringing with them the hallucination and extreme. He gave me those and is sending me off for further test with the specialist to take more test and talk about my back, getting on better benzos, and taking care of my back with therapy maybe braces, hopefully some Narcotics. This part looks good to me, it gives me high hopes.

[Coddfish]

you remember in 'the wrath of khan' when ricardo montalban put that slug thingy in chekov's ear? you know that goopy, orangy crap that the thingy left on his ear? that's what i thought of when reading your story. have you been hanging out with ricardo montalban? if so, i bet you have one of those slug dealies wrapped around your brain stem. i think they can cause hallucinations, so that would make sense. once you get it out, go put it in your mom's ear.

[robojunkie]

you remember in 'the wrath of khan' when ricardo montalban put that slug thingy in chekov's ear? you know that goopy, orangy crap that the thingy left on his ear? that's what i thought of when reading your story. have you been hanging out with ricardo montalban? if so, i bet you have one of those slug dealies wrapped around your brain stem. i think they can cause hallucinations, so that would make sense. once you get it out, go put it in your mom's ear.

Probably the best way yet I've heard of to deal with hypocritical abusive parents who pile on when at you're lowest...scared the shit outtta me as a kid that scene...

Yeah CT I get the impression that a lotta docs are for whatever reason totally ignorant about brain injury things...I mean hell who wouldn't want the valium or even some M but good luck differentiating anything then. I TA a lot of future MD's (the ubiquitous "pre-med") and my confidence in the medical profession is not reassured in any way. There might be 5% of students I'd even think of lettin' cut me 20 years from now... Mine as a kid eventually lost his license. Go home and rest with different size pupils repeating same questions every couple minutes (parents others filled me in on all these details...) Moron, if I/my parents knew better then wouldda sued his touchy feely it'll be allright ass.

Yeah chem I hope shit gets better for ya, seems like the shit just keeps pilin' on...probably is best to get the fuck outta there if ya wanna make it to the grad school thing and all that. Jesus christ, steal her powder/rock and be like, hey mom, I think this one or two lines should cover ya for now, I'll make your decisions for you because you're not perfect. Fuck. You seem pretty lucid and shit though, you ain't countin' all your footsteps and having to redo everything "right" over and over, etc and in a total haze like you're on haldol, are ya? I think that's about where I was at by then when I got the STM back. Get outta dodge man!

[nick]

Sorry about your Mom,any decision is going to be hard.
Good luck with the pm doc.-start practicing the puppy eyes routine.
Good luck with court.

Fingers crossed for you bro.

[alowishus]

It's time to cut that string, w/o going deep into head shrinker stuff, all the "issues" you been having lately could be a direct result of this unhealthy relationship.
The normal bounds of adulthood aren't there.

[AWOL]

It's time to cut that string, w/o going deep into head shrinker stuff, all the "issues" you been having lately could be a direct result of this unhealthy relationship.
The normal bounds of adulthood aren't there.

Yeah I agree. I don't want to sound rude or anything, but I say you need a place and some space man. Or you'll end up doing something like me and run off to South America for a few years. It's hard with school, I was in that same situation. But mom needs to mind her bizz.

[chemboy7]

Fuck me sideways! I just got off the phone with the courthouse trying to see when my arraignment was reschedualed and they said that now they are trying to persue it as a FEDERAL matter and that it would be a completely different courthouse that I would have to call and that it could be a month from now until I actually have to appear. Fuck man, I don't want these charges to turn into felonies. She also told me that "there appears to be drugs involved". Which would make sense because they took blood from me being that I refused a breathlizer. Man this aint looking good for old chemmy-boy. Just what I need ontop of all this other shit. What a fucking week.

[nick]

Fuck me sideways! I just got off the phone with the courthouse trying to see when my arraignment was reschedualed and they said that now they are trying to persue it as a FEDERAL matter and that it would be a completely different courthouse that I would have to call and that it could be a month from now until I actually have to appear. Fuck man, I don't want these charges to turn into felonies. She also told me that "there appears to be drugs involved". Which would make sense because they took blood from me being that I refused a breathlizer. Man this aint looking good for old chemmy-boy. Just what I need ontop of all this other shit. What a fucking week.

How far are you from Mexico!!!!!

BE COOL and talk to your mouthpiece.It might not be that bad.

BE STRONG BRO.

[HistoryofMadness]

Fuck me sideways! I just got off the phone with the courthouse trying to see when my arraignment was reschedualed and they said that now they are trying to persue it as a FEDERAL matter and that it would be a completely different courthouse that I would have to call and that it could be a month from now until I actually have to appear. Fuck man, I don't want these charges to turn into felonies. She also told me that "there appears to be drugs involved". Which would make sense because they took blood from me being that I refused a breathlizer. Man this aint looking good for old chemmy-boy. Just what I need ontop of all this other shit. What a fucking week.

Was this the courthouse or the DA's office? You may want to contact the DAs office (of course don't bring fed shit up) and find out the details. I'm sure you already know to do that.

I am being hopeful here, but to me this sounds like a move to get the bargaining process started. Maybe they know you've got a good lawyer and want to make sure you plead out.

Either way contacting your attorney is a good idea before you wig out. He'll tell you when to panic.

[Chemical_Boy]

Fuck me sideways! I just got off the phone with the courthouse trying to see when my arraignment was reschedualed and they said that now they are trying to persue it as a FEDERAL matter and that it would be a completely different courthouse that I would have to call and that it could be a month from now until I actually have to appear. Fuck man, I don't want these charges to turn into felonies. She also told me that "there appears to be drugs involved". Which would make sense because they took blood from me being that I refused a breathlizer. Man this aint looking good for old chemmy-boy. Just what I need ontop of all this other shit. What a fucking week.

Damn dude, that fuckin sucks!
I don't know what to say except I hope some good luck starts heading your way for this shit.

I hate it when something looks like it might work out without being too damn bad and then takes a nasty turn for the worse out of the blue. I hope you are able to get some good "council". It is a damn travesty what money can do in these types of situations. A good lawyer is the difference between being screwed and getting off relatively easily......Sorry man, I don't mean to be telling you what we all know, I just always think about that crap when things like this happen.

At least you are getting some medical treatment. That head injury stuff sounds scary. At least you got some Vs out of it, but I know if you are like me that is probably all gone now. Hope it took the edge off of the nerves for a few days though.

Good luck again,


Damn!

[robojunkie]

Chem,

They gotta be playing shitass scare tactic cop/prosecutor games with you man. I mean from what I understand about the crash, one car (yours), no one else hurt/dead, want to charge you with fleeing, and possibly drug DWI as well as DWI. All state stuff. I never heard of feds having jurisdiction on any of that stuff unless you had the insanely bad luck to crash into the "now entering the lovely state of west bumfuck" sign on a tree and stumble across the state line after the accident. I mean I don't even know if they have federal laws on this shit directly. I don't know but I'm sure the good lawyer that you already got can say for certain. Sounds like intimidation games...I mean you said they "wanted to/considering pursuing this in federal court..." and things like that...sounds like ambiguous stalling/fucking tactics...If they could easily or had a good federal case worth the US DA's time in your area or "circuit" or however they divide it up you'd probably already have a paper in hand and a date on the calender. Get that lawyer on this DA's ass...DA's-sneakiest most Machiavellian type cops out there. Devious manipulative bastards they are, innocent, guilty, inbetween? No, its all a big dick waving (or I don't have one and beat your as anyway) contest with these people...

[kyuss]

Fuck me sideways! I just got off the phone with the courthouse trying to see when my arraignment was reschedualed and they said that now they are trying to persue it as a FEDERAL matter and that it would be a completely different courthouse that I would have to call and that it could be a month from now until I actually have to appear. Fuck man, I don't want these charges to turn into felonies. She also told me that "there appears to be drugs involved". Which would make sense because they took blood from me being that I refused a breathlizer. Man this aint looking good for old chemmy-boy. Just what I need ontop of all this other shit. What a fucking week.

Damn bro
when it rains..
Talk to your lawyer
shouldn't he be the one
informing you of this?
Hang in there bro

[oxymoron]

That sux donkey dick man. Hope it pans out for you. At least no one else was hurt. I was in jail with a kid that had felony dui and felony hit and run with great bodily injury looking at state time no doubt. Best of luck bro

[chemboy7]

That sux donkey dick man. Hope it pans out for you. At least no one else was hurt. I was in jail with a kid that had felony dui and felony hit and run with great bodily injury looking at state time no doubt. Best of luck bro

Yeah, Chem's probably gonna have a stay within the walls... he know's that. But I'm trying not to think about that right now. I look at it like this: my bitch of a mom flushed my subs but today one of my buddies snuck me one in a bag of weed he brought over; so no sickness today (or tomarrow cause I am stretching it out with 2 4mg doses) :D . Although my Valium script is being slowly doled out to me I have the option of stock piling pills, another super good freind is also going to help me out so I can actually get some pain relief and alittle compensary buzz going on, I got's me a doctors appointment Thursday to see about getting some pain meds and benzos, and I have a great lawyer. Things aren't all bad (or atleast I am not looking at it that way) so for the time I have before I have to worry about sentencing I am just going to try my damnedest to enjoy myself and keep it loose.

edit: Oh yeah, the thought just came to me that even prison might not be so bad (with a possitive attitude anyways). Shit, who knows, maybe I'll run into some half assed meth cook and actually get some good conversation going. Not to meantion I already got one of the coolest people I know willing to write me. That's a good idea; who want's to write me in prison? It'll be just like I'm posting here on the site, someone could scan it and post it in my name. I could let you guy's know what kind of slop they're serving us, what kinda dope is going around my cell block, how pumped my guns are getting from the weight lifting... hahaha, even cement and bars wouldn't be able to keep me away from the 'phile. Shit I like it; potential volunteer's hit me up PM.

[oxymoron]

Yeah, Chem's probably gonna have a stay within the walls... he know's that. But I'm trying not to think about that right now. I look at it like this: my bitch of a mom flushed my subs but today one of my buddies snuck me one in a bag of weed he brought over; so no sickness today (or tomarrow cause I am stretching it out with 2 4mg doses) :D . Although my Valium script is being slowly doled out to me I have the option of stock piling pills, another super good freind is also going to help me out so I can actually get some pain relief and alittle compensary buzz going on, I got's me a doctors appointment Thursday to see about getting some pain meds and benzos, and I have a great lawyer. Things aren't all bad (or atleast I am not looking at it that way) so for the time I have before I have to worry about sentencing I am just going to try my damnedest to enjoy myself and keep it loose.

edit: Oh yeah, the thought just came to me that even prison might not be so bad (with a possitive attitude anyways). Shit, who knows, maybe I'll run into some half assed meth cook and actually get some good conversation going. Not to meantion I already got one of the coolest people I know willing to write me. That's a good idea; who want's to write me in prison? It'll be just like I'm posting here on the site, someone could scan it and post it in my name. I could let you guy's know what kind of slop they're serving us, what kinda dope is going around my cell block, how pumped my guns are getting from the weight lifting... hahaha, even cement and bars wouldn't be able to keep me away from the 'phile. Shit I like it; potential volunteer's hit me up PM.

You have a good attitude about it for sure, just be sure you kick before your turn in date if you are gonna do time. Much more comfortable in your bed or on the living room couch than in a cold ass holding cell. Once again best of luck. Let us know when you get sentenced, besides myself I'm sure other folks on here would be happy to write you if yer gonna be down for a little while:)

[alowishus]

Yeah, Chem's probably gonna have a stay within the walls... he know's that. But I'm trying not to think about that right now. I look at it like this: my bitch of a mom flushed my subs but today one of my buddies snuck me one in a bag of weed he brought over; so no sickness today (or tomarrow cause I am stretching it out with 2 4mg doses) :D . Although my Valium script is being slowly doled out to me I have the option of stock piling pills, another super good freind is also going to help me out so I can actually get some pain relief and alittle compensary buzz going on, I got's me a doctors appointment Thursday to see about getting some pain meds and benzos, and I have a great lawyer. Things aren't all bad (or atleast I am not looking at it that way) so for the time I have before I have to worry about sentencing I am just going to try my damnedest to enjoy myself and keep it loose.

edit: Oh yeah, the thought just came to me that even prison might not be so bad (with a possitive attitude anyways). Shit, who knows, maybe I'll run into some half assed meth cook and actually get some good conversation going. Not to meantion I already got one of the coolest people I know willing to write me. That's a good idea; who want's to write me in prison? It'll be just like I'm posting here on the site, someone could scan it and post it in my name. I could let you guy's know what kind of slop they're serving us, what kinda dope is going around my cell block, how pumped my guns are getting from the weight lifting... hahaha, even cement and bars wouldn't be able to keep me away from the 'phile. Shit I like it; potential volunteer's hit me up PM.


Maybe you'll bunk w/ someone that knows how to make AA.....:p

Hey man, your doing what you need to do, be up beat, but of course prepare for the worst...:(

Have you heard anything more about the FED charges, like some have said, unless theres more, like taking a minor a crossed a state line or some such shit. How /why would they be doing that?

Keep us up dated.

[Porgie]

I too had my share of driving under the influence....luckily I did all mine before the mothers got mad. Dang I'm old!

[nick]

Flushing your subs wasn't tough love,it was stupid and sadistic,That's what winds me up about tough love folks use it the wrong time.


P.S.Maybe you can get a nice Opiophile tat in the can bro.

[alowishus]

^^ yeah there's a time and a place AND a certain person for tough love, if you try it on the wrong person or wrong time, it'll bite you in the ass.

Beside I'd NEVER not help my son no matter what. I might not be happy, but he's my son. :o

[Curio]

chem
I think someone mentioned it earlier, but to take blood after you refused a breathalyzer is BATTERY (aggravated assault kind of thing).

I know this because as a medic I CANNOT take blood or start an IV on someone who refuses to allow it....if I THREATEN THEM that I am going to do it anyway, I can be brought up on ASSAULT charges; if I ACTUALLY PROCEED to to the needlestick, then they could press charges of BATTERY on me....

Most states say that if you refuse the breathalyzer or blood tests, then you just flat out lose your license...many people will refuse the breath test as it could be inaccurate...I think your attorney could have a field day with these folks...HECK, contact the ACLU online and email your story and ask if being forced to have a blood test is wrong....

The only time I've ever allowed the police to get blood from one of my patients is if I was already in the course of doing an IV and the patient was aware of the fact...my job as I see it is to help the patient, not incriminate or gather evidence against them...

speaking of which: did the police EVER have EMS/Fire or a nurse evaluate you before they took you off to jail? There's another matter entirely in your favor....this whole head injury thing should've begun to be addressed back then...DAYS ago....if the medic interviewed you and knew you'd lost consciousness, you should've gone straight to an ER that night...that is my standard protocol around here...esp. if alcohol is involved, because differentiating between ETOH and TBI is something only an ER doc and CT, MRI & x-rays, other tests can determine...

[alowishus]

chem
I think someone mentioned it earlier, but to take blood after you refused a breathalyzer is BATTERY (aggravated assault kind of thing).

I know this because as a medic I CANNOT take blood or start an IV on someone who refuses to allow it....if I THREATEN THEM that I am going to do it anyway, I can be brought up on ASSAULT charges; if I ACTUALLY PROCEED to to the needlestick, then they could press charges of BATTERY on me....

Most states say that if you refuse the breathalyzer or blood tests, then you just flat out lose your license...many people will refuse the breath test as it could be inaccurate...I think your attorney could have a field day with these folks...HECK, contact the ACLU online and email your story and ask if being forced to have a blood test is wrong....

The only time I've ever allowed the police to get blood from one of my patients is if I was already in the course of doing an IV and the patient was aware of the fact...my job as I see it is to help the patient, not incriminate or gather evidence against them...

speaking of which: did the police EVER have EMS/Fire or a nurse evaluate you before they took you off to jail? There's another matter entirely in your favor....this whole head injury thing should've begun to be addressed back then...DAYS ago....if the medic interviewed you and knew you'd lost consciousness, you should've gone straight to an ER that night...that is my standard protocol around here...esp. if alcohol is involved, because differentiating between ETOH and TBI is something only an ER doc and CT, MRI & x-rays, other tests can determine...


Coma I got some questions about that stuff, I've heard/seen them take blood from a guy, who was knocked out, they said it was evidence of a crime....????

Also a cop friend said they just take some from you if your bleeding, how that holds in court I don't know, doesn't seem that thye could use it, maybe bluff w/ it????

[Curio]

The other thing I would say is if they went and took blood and yet didn't give you a medical evaluation, that is SOOOO backwards....

[chemboy7]

chem
I think someone mentioned it earlier, but to take blood after you refused a breathalyzer is BATTERY (aggravated assault kind of thing).

I know this because as a medic I CANNOT take blood or start an IV on someone who refuses to allow it....if I THREATEN THEM that I am going to do it anyway, I can be brought up on ASSAULT charges; if I ACTUALLY PROCEED to to the needlestick, then they could press charges of BATTERY on me....

Most states say that if you refuse the breathalyzer or blood tests, then you just flat out lose your license...many people will refuse the breath test as it could be inaccurate...I think your attorney could have a field day with these folks...HECK, contact the ACLU online and email your story and ask if being forced to have a blood test is wrong....

The only time I've ever allowed the police to get blood from one of my patients is if I was already in the course of doing an IV and the patient was aware of the fact...my job as I see it is to help the patient, not incriminate or gather evidence against them...

speaking of which: did the police EVER have EMS/Fire or a nurse evaluate you before they took you off to jail? There's another matter entirely in your favor....this whole head injury thing should've begun to be addressed back then...DAYS ago....if the medic interviewed you and knew you'd lost consciousness, you should've gone straight to an ER that night...that is my standard protocol around here...esp. if alcohol is involved, because differentiating between ETOH and TBI is something only an ER doc and CT, MRI & x-rays, other tests can determine...

No, medical attention was not even offered when the polive drug my ass out of the woods... it was just striaght to jail. Even while in the jail the refused to let me see the jailhouse nursestaff; it was rediculous, esspecially after a crash that severe and how tore up I was. I am praying and hoping my best that when I have my MRI (just had one schedualed for the 13th today) shoes some kind of injury like TBI or something because if I had that and they refused me medical care there is a good chance that this whole thing could get thrown out of court.

As for the blood test, I am pretty sure that (atleast in this state) as soon as you sign up for your licene=se you agree to take atlease a breathilizer and if that is refused then they take blood from you, automatically suspened your licemse for 6 months+, and get thrown in the drunk tank until. you can blow a 0.00. I don't think legally they did anything wrong with that, but they are going to have a hard time explaining withholding medical attention. Me thinks that's the best thing I have going for me at this point.

[nick]

oh bro,you know things are bad,when the best thing you've got going for you is being refused medical attention.I guess it's a case of do they want you badly enough to risk looking like the bunch of nazis that they are.

Is the 13th pain med day?Oh,keep practising the puppy eyes-how could a doc resist?

[HistoryofMadness]

hey chem i do hope you weren't seriously injured from the wreck, but take karen's advice... if you were the bright side is you will own the city's police department in a couple of years...

[OxyContinuously]

chem definitely see a doc if your head is fucked up, bro

[AWOL]

Yeah dude, get your head checked out, that could be serrious.

Protect and serve my ass. Fuckin cops.