Huey Lewis said right....

[Opiyum]

"I want a new drug. One that won't make me sick." -Huey lewis and the news

Do you think there will ever be a new recreational drug for the masses, in a classification of it's own, to sweep across the world? Not a hallucinagen, not an amphet nor methamphetamine, not an opiate. Something unlike anything human kind has ever known. Are we past that point? Are variations of drugs that already exist all we have to look forward too? Improvements on our favorites?
I would think that it's an inevitability but it's just so hard to imagine. MAybe, if we live this long, people will be getting high on balloons filled with a tenth of a cubic centimeter of gas from Jupiter. Jupiter is the Gas giant right?
Enough questions.

I expect somewhat logical responses mixed with some creative ideas as to what our children's children might be getting high on.

[AWOL]

MDMA ? ............ (the message you typed is too short blah blah blah)

[nick]

Lots of new dope to come.Many drugs sold on the street are really chemical variants.The question is what could be better than H.
Apart from nonaddictive H.

P.S.DV bro,I really thought you were going to suggest psychedelic laxative or some other fun.

[Opiyum]

MDMA ? ............ (the message you typed is too short blah blah blah)

Your not catching thr point mmy friend. I mean MDMA was aroudn a lolt loner than most people think. This is beside the point.

Im talkin hundreds og new chemicals....Ill addmit seeing that im os tired and bezo up I come back to this and fix it

[pharmboy]

Electronic stimulation of the pleasure/euphoria centers in the brain

with out putting wires in the pudding.:cloud9:

[Hammilton]

I don't think there's gonna be any totally new drugs coming out. I mean, there'll be variants on already known drugs, but I doubt there'll be anything entirely different.

There's only so many different neurotransmitters available to tweak, though.

So, there can be combos of existing drugs, drugs from new classes that work on the same receptors- that may have more or less addictive potential (think benzos after quaaludes)

[Black_Pony]

Our childrens children will be so repressed they wont even be able to take drugs. Everyone will have a computer chip implanted in their brain that alerts law enforcement as soon as someone gets high. If the human race still exists at that point.

"I want a new drug. One that won't make me sick." -Huey lewis and the news

Do you think there will ever be a new recreational drug for the masses, in a classification of it's own, to sweep across the world? Not a hallucinagen, not an amphet nor methamphetamine, not an opiate. Something unlike anything human kind has ever known. Are we past that point? Are variations of drugs that already exist all we have to look forward too? Improvements on our favorites?
I would think that it's an inevitability but it's just so hard to imagine. MAybe, if we live this long, people will be getting high on balloons filled with a tenth of a cubic centimeter of gas from Jupiter. Jupiter is the Gas giant right?
Enough questions.

I expect somewhat logical responses mixed with some creative ideas as to what our children's children might be getting high on.

[moviebuff927]

I've seen some of the responses being about computer chips implanted into someones head and stimulating the pleasure centers. I think there would be too much controversy and damage if that was the only way people go high.

I think in the near future someone will either create by accident or discover by accident a whole new class of drugs that have effects totally different than today's drugs. Like a drug that you dissolve in your mouth and once absorbed (matter of seconds because of the high potency and high lipid solubility) that will put you in the state of mind like when you were a kid (without the bad experiences)

Or one that has the incredible euphorica of cocaine and amphetamines, but actually relaxes you...oh wait...they've already discovered opiates :):):):):)

But seriously, I don't think we could really be as creative as a new class of recreational drugs could be.

I don't know about right around the corner, but it will be in some of our lifetimes...especially the younger people


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I remember when I was younger, in middle school, and I was riding my dirtbike back in the many acres of land behind our house (wasn't our land but everybody went back there) and I met this older dude and we got to talking about weed somehow. He told me something I'll never forget after discussing how weed should be legal. He simply said:

"One day soon, marijuana will be legal".

And deep down, he was right.

[The Lurker]

Our childrens children will be so repressed they wont even be able to take drugs. Everyone will have a computer chip implanted in their brain that alerts law enforcement as soon as someone gets high. If the human race still exists at that point.

Hey BP, enough with all the ebullient optimism, already!


What concerns me sometimes is the pace at which new and designer drugs are being created. Eventually they'll tweak some analogue of an existing substance, or create an entirely new one, that has effects similar to Pax from the movie Serenity, or a pill form of the droud found in Niven and Robinson's work. People will lay down and simply choose to stop functioning. Spreading like wildfire and becoming all-pervasive.

Until then - have a drink, on me! :drink:


Wow - always interesting to see old threads pop up again months or years later.

-TL

[Hammilton]

The only reason I severely doubt these sorts of things is that we now know of all or nearly all of the neurotransmitters in our brains.

Sure, new binding sites are sometimes found (CB1 & 2), and things that weren't considered to be transmitters are being recognized for what they are (think: GHB)- but those are going to come less and less in the next 10 years. Odds are good that they won't come at all. Not real good, but fair enough that I wouldn't bet on it happening.

But we can do new things with old transmitters, and combine actions or limit actions to create new sensations. It simply isn't a realistic position to suppose that there's gonna be something that's absolutely different or capable of causing something grossly seperated from what we have today.

The classes of drugs have remained the same for centures. Stimulants (cocaine and caffeine), Depressants (Bromides, EtOH), Psychedelics (Cannabis, Mescaline, Mushrooms), Opioids (Papaver somniferum) and Deleriants (Mandrake). The only new classes of drugs discovered really have been the Dissociatives and Entactogens, and theres some real evidence to say that entactogens aren't really seperate from psychedelics or stimulants.

They're a little bit of both, but not a lot. Hugely euphoric, though, for sure.

I think the best chance, if there is one, to create something entirely different will have to come from electro-cranial stimulation (did I get that right?) or something similar.

[WarmCyanide]

goddamn hammilton, you seem to like the chemistry aspect. you should be a teacher seriously