Ever had pure dxm?

[2muchgarbage]

The one and Only time i've done dxm was in pure form in a pill that you can take apert and take the powder out. I don't know the technical term for the pill, but people put dxm or molly in it. Anyway, I didn't believe the kid who said I would be completly fucked from the pill, and i smoked alot of good weed and drank about a pitcher of beer. Needless to say, I tripped so hard it was ridiculous. So has anyone evr found dxm in this form? Or is it just around once in a while in nyc?

[Seedy]

Yeah, about 10 years ago when dxm wasn't classified here people were just ordering it off the net and putting it in gell caps to sell. Unfortunately, as it was being sold pretty cheap, and doses are hard to guage, people were having bad times on it, some ending up in hospital so it was soon criminalised. You can still buy cough syrup though!

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

The one and Only time i've done dxm was in pure form in a pill that you can take apert and take the powder out. I don't know the technical term for the pill, but people put dxm or molly in it. Anyway, I didn't believe the kid who said I would be completly fucked from the pill, and i smoked alot of good weed and drank about a pitcher of beer. Needless to say, I tripped so hard it was ridiculous. So has anyone evr found dxm in this form? Or is it just around once in a while in nyc?

You can find it like this here and there, but it is not as common as it used to be. The problem is that people do not know how to dose with dxm powder. It needs to be placed into alcohol, or suspended in polyethylene glycol (PEG) to be properly absorbed and metabolized.

[Sitar]

Pure DXM powder was widely available online up until just very recently. And it was fairly cheap, too. Much cheaper than any DXM products in stores.

And I never heard of anyone having a problem absorbing or metabolizing it in that form.

[SuperJunky]

You can find it like this here and there, but it is not as common as it used to be. The problem is that people do not know how to dose with dxm powder. It needs to be placed into alcohol, or suspended in polyethylene glycol (PEG) to be properly absorbed and metabolized.

I've never heard of this dissolved in alcohol or PEG to be properly absorbed shit. They put dxm in dry pills like coricidin (sp? which you shouldnt take high doses of, its dangerouse) . I've taken pure dxm powder, chugged vicks and robo max, robotussin pills and did the acid base dxm extract, using country time lemonade as the acid. You could reduce 10 bottles of chepo equate brand into a shot. Split 3 ways and head for the third plateua.

You can still find pure dxm powder if you look hard enough. I've never heard of it being regulated in any way but I can see selling it in a headshop setting drawing some heat.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

I've never heard of this dissolved in alcohol or PEG to be properly absorbed shit. They put dxm in dry pills like coricidin (sp? which you shouldnt take high doses of, its dangerouse) . I've taken pure dxm powder, chugged vicks and robo max, robotussin pills and did the acid base dxm extract, using country time lemonade as the acid. You could reduce 10 bottles of chepo equate brand into a shot. Split 3 ways and head for the third plateua.

You can still find pure dxm powder if you look hard enough. I've never heard of it being regulated in any way but I can see selling it in a headshop setting drawing some heat.


Actually, a lot of people end up ODing by NOT doing what I suggested. The main reason DXM powder is not available as readily as it used to be is because of uninformed people. DXM needs a bit of help getting to your liver to broken down, and dosing as you are suggesting causes to molecules to hit your liver in clumps. This causes a higher DXM to DXO amount in your blood, and DXM unmetabolized is NOT good for you. Please, for the sake of harm reduction DO NOT post in a manner that may harm users or guests passing through here looking for ways to dose with powder.

[satori]

You can buy pills (still) that have just DXM in it. There called Dex-a-lone (dexalone).

[tofunun]

its still not hard to get pure dxm from what i understand. I used to get that crap from my doctor all the time due to bronchial problems, but personally I don't care for that stuff, so I don't get it anymore. And what about mucinex? isn't that pretty much mostly dxm? oh, in regards to your question, yeah, I've had it and I don't really understand the hype over it. Diffr'nt Strokes for diffr'nt folks, I guess

[Sitar]

The original question was referring to actual pure DXM powder sold illicitly on the streets, not a store product with just DXM in it. Various internet sources used to sell pure DXM hydrobromide before the big research chemical crackdown a couple years ago.

[tofunun]

oh. my bad. then no, i haven't had it.

[somadude]

The one and Only time i've done dxm was in pure form in a pill that you can take apert and take the powder out. I don't know the technical term for the pill, but people put dxm or molly in it. Anyway, I didn't believe the kid who said I would be completly fucked from the pill, and i smoked alot of good weed and drank about a pitcher of beer. Needless to say, I tripped so hard it was ridiculous. So has anyone evr found dxm in this form? Or is it just around once in a while in nyc?

yes, about 5 years ago I order pure powder ( I think it was about 10 gm) from a company online. I recall it was pretty cheap. I went to a health food store and bought empty capsules the largest they had. Since i worked in a lab I had a very good balance so I wieghed the powder out precicely. I think each cap held about 200mg. I was used to taking 600-700 mg of dxm in syrup or gelcap so I started at 600 mg. WOW! there was a lot of difference between pure powder and syrup or gelcap. I was very messed up fast. I didnt OD or anything I just was not expecting it to hit me so hard. It was great.

somadude

[OxyContinuously]

I have had the pure Dex hydrobromide powder, but I also had a good scale to measure the dose properly. I absolutely agree a hundred and ten percent with Dexter the Meth Orphan cause a dxm OD is horrible and it absolutely pays to weigh it properly

Oxy

[insaneike]

Every time I've done DXM was the 99%+ pure powder from an online research chemical supplier. Well I used DexAlone once and meh lol. The pure DXM powder flakes is MUCH stronger than any form u will ever find in a commercial available cold/w.e product. I noticed that you need like 80-150mg less of the powder to aceive the same effect that you would get from X dose of DexAlone or w/e you use. I personally HATE the DXM high though. It's 110% crap. I've done it 5-7 times by itelf and round 12-15 times in combo with other drugs. It's such a SHITTY drug, but hey, some call me insane :rolleyes:

The best and one of the only enjoyable exp. I had with DXM was when it was combined with moderate dose of mescal. Made a tea from 2oz of San Pedro cacti and eva'd the tea down to a slightly sticky flaky yellow dried up snot looking powder lol. It was such damn good exp(another story unless someone wants it hehe). another time was in combo with dexidrine and scotch which was pretty nice but the whole exp felt like a huge 4day meth binge crash... and another time was like 4-600mg of DXM with half an OC40, I WAS TORE!!! baaadly! that 20mg of OC felt like 60+mg i swear, i was literally noddin balls going in and out of it with that dxm's shitty effects lingering around my head. That night was so hazey, i member me and my ex was watching The Wall and then the making of DSOTM and the next day i watched it again and was like wtf, i don't member HALF this shit last night hehe. DXM potentates opiates soooo damn much it's not even funny! Hell if u do 120mg of dex and 2/3 ur usual opi dose you'll get the same effect but a bit of a 'stuffy cloudy head' feeling, but i would highly recommend like 30-60mg doses to cut back on a few mg of opis. ok enough of that, dxm in combos can be fun but alone it's a shitttty high to me.

all in all ike doesn't like dxm on it's own and only likes it in combo with mescaline lol:cool:

god i just gotsta talking and... :D

[Sitar]

I totally agree with ya, Ike. DXM is one shitty drug in general for a high by itself. Yucky stuff. I always felt like my brain was a second behind my body or vice versa. The nausea didn't help either.

[robojunkie]

Wow, just reading this thread it occurred to me why most people I know/talked to that take methadone in pill form feel it within an hour or less whereas me when I was on the clinic with the juice (PEG's and another di- or tri-block copolymer, forget which) would take way longer to kick in and peak after several hours...

Yeah, I know off topic, I myself love the robo when not in the midst of a habit, but I never got the pure RC powder. Didn't robe when on done and that's when all the RC companies sprang up/went down. When I was like 18 or so robing every day (not the way to do it) I tried ordering like an idiot from a regular bulk pharmaceutical supplier...bunch of questions about my company, formulations, etc. No, just want the powder, ship it now bitches! As I said, never had the powder and never took the time to do the extraction process although if I were to robe tomorrow or next year I probably would instead of cutting up gelcaps and drinking with OJ. Robidone?

[superman]

DXM needs a bit of help getting to your liver to broken down, and dosing as you are suggesting causes to molecules to hit your liver in clumps.
Sorry but this has to be a load of bullshit. the digestive system did not evolve to send 'clumps' of alkaloids rushing through your blood. The metabolic pathway that DXM is subject to is what determines which metabolites will be present. cytochrome P4502D6 produces two main metabolites with the ratio varying according to each individual with the ration also being affected by other load put on this pathway by other foods and drugs.
The form that the dxm is injested in shouldn't matter, unless it causes a very slow release, in which case the that ratio may be slightly altered

I always felt like my brain was a second behind my body or vice versa.
i love that feeling. at very high doses it can feel like centuries have passed, this is what i strive for when using NMDA inhibitors

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

Sorry but this has to be a load of bullshit. the digestive system did not evolve to send 'clumps' of alkaloids rushing through your blood. The metabolic pathway that DXM is subject to is what determines which metabolites will be present. cytochrome P4502D6 produces two main metabolites with the ratio varying according to each individual with the ration also being affected by other load put on this pathway by other foods and drugs.
The form that the dxm is injested in shouldn't matter, unless it causes a very slow release, in which case the that ratio may be slightly altered


i love that feeling. at very high doses it can feel like centuries have passed, this is what i strive for when using NMDA inhibitors


Not clumps per se, more like they stick together a bit. DXM is sparingly soluble in water, and freely soluble in alcohol. The issue is absorption for the most part, though it was my mistake in mis-wording, I really don't care for the tone of your post. You obviously have done some amount of research on this chemical but not enough to know that this is one of the most common ways people end up ODing on DXM. They dose powder, as you would suggest, expecting the fast come up of a prep with alcohol or PEG and get instead a very slow come up. Then, on occasion they re-dose and make their first crucial mistake.

Mind you, if you dose powder without putting it into suspension it is not ALWAYS a guaranteed absorption rate per the dose. Even in the stomachs bile, dxm will clump together if not properly suspended. This is a known fact, and I think the only thing that you were disputing was my improper choice of wording.

[insaneike]

I dunno what is being discussed fully as I just skimmed through the above posts but everytime I did the pure(99%+) DXM it kicked in a wee faster(maybe 10-25min faster than the usual 1.5hr peak as u get with dexalone) and I needed like 150mg less than you'd need with any OTC DXM only products. Me and at least 6 other ppls I know all swallowed powder as is and all got the same difference in effects and dose needed. You don't need as much, it kicks in a bit faster, and is more 'intense' if you swallow pure dex powder as is. Just figured I'd has some first hand exp. on the subject since i noticed a bit of discussion going on(if it doesn't relate just ignore).

all in all witht his post is that the pure powder swalowed as is kicks in faster and is more intense than regular dxm in any OTC syrup or pill form will...

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

Note that I stated not "always" will the same effect be had. The reason I state what I do is because of the deaths of the illinois students from dosing powder without dissolving it or putting it into a suspension. They dosed, felt very little and then re-dosed and bad things happened. If anything, I am simply trying to make sure that some level of harm reduction remains in this section. I would like to be able to continue using this drug without any more complications coming about.

[Dolophine]

BLah, do some real drugs!

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

BLah, do some real drugs!

Pathetically small minded!

[SuperJunky]

Note that I stated not "always" will the same effect be had. The reason I state what I do is because of the deaths of the illinois students from dosing powder without dissolving it or putting it into a suspension. They dosed, felt very little and then re-dosed and bad things happened. If anything, I am simply trying to make sure that some level of harm reduction remains in this section. I would like to be able to continue using this drug without any more complications coming about.

Not clumps per se, more like they stick together a bit. DXM is sparingly soluble in water, and freely soluble in alcohol. The issue is absorption for the most part, though it was my mistake in mis-wording, I really don't care for the tone of your post. You obviously have done some amount of research on this chemical but not enough to know that this is one of the most common ways people end up ODing on DXM. They dose powder, as you would suggest, expecting the fast come up of a prep with alcohol or PEG and get instead a very slow come up. Then, on occasion they re-dose and make their first crucial mistake.

Mind you, if you dose powder without putting it into suspension it is not ALWAYS a guaranteed absorption rate per the dose. Even in the stomachs bile, dxm will clump together if not properly suspended. This is a known fact, and I think the only thing that you were disputing was my improper choice of wording.

I agree that harm reduction should be kept in mind, I was just relating my experience. I had never heard this whole clumping business and I'm pretty skeptical w/ these types of things simply because of the amount of misinformation about DXM in general. Any one that takes something and redoses w/ out waiting a good deal of time isnt to smart in my book. I always personally found that the purer the produc the quicker the come up w/ cough syrup and robo cough gels being on the slower end. I used to use the acid base extraction method w/ cheap cough syrup. I dont know how things worked out and I definatly know I lost some of the dxm in the process, but shouldnt the DXM have ended up in citrate form seeing as country time lemonade was used for an acid? Or ascorbate? Is this more or less soluable in water? From what I understand the hydrobromide form is used because the other forms are unstable. There were all sorts of tales of the extract breaking down, some suggested into dxo. I never used the extract after a day for fear this could happen but a friend of mine took some of the shit w/ him and didnt take it for several days. It gave him a real bad trip but this could have been because he was alone. Any thoughts? This is all from memory so dont shoot me if I mixed something up here, I dont robo that much anymore so its not all fresh in my mind.

As for the tone of the post I didnt really apreciate you reporing my post on the grounds it was misinformation, but these things happen. Its one of the downsides of written online communication, things are misunderstood and misinterpreted. I'm not trying to start a flame war anything of the like. I would like to continue discussing things in an intelligent manner.

BLah, do some real drugs!

Pathetically small minded!

I think it is small minded to right off dxm as an "unreal" drug, as most people do for anything thats legal or uncontrolled. But a lot of people dont like dissasociatives in general. Depending on whether dolophine ever tried DXM would really be the deciding factor on whether this is a small minded statement. Just my 2 cents.

[HistoryofMadness]

i think she was joking.

but since this is an opiate-lover's board primarily you can't get too offended...

suck it up crybaby! (walter, 'big lebowski')

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

i think she was joking.

but since this is an opiate-lover's board primarily you can't get too offended...

suck it up crybaby! (walter, 'big lebowski')


Since the creator of the board took the time to put in this subsection, I can get as offended as I please. I use opiates as well, and that's why I am a part of this board. I also use DXM, which a lot of people do not respect, and I respect others opinions so long as you don't act like an asshole like the person I quoted.

SuperJunky I would love to discus more on this subject with you. I am sorry for coming off a bit strong, I get so used to defending this drug and the likes.

[HistoryofMadness]

Since the creator of the board took the time to put in this subsection, I can get as offended as I please. I use opiates as well, and that's why I am a part of this board. I also use DXM, which a lot of people do not respect, and I respect others opinions so long as you don't act like an asshole like the person I quoted.

SuperJunky I would love to discus more on this subject with you. I am sorry for coming off a bit strong, I get so used to defending this drug and the likes.

whoah man didn't know you were that sensitive relax please its just a drug. i mean i'm sure its godsend to you and all but really don't take it personally if someone else doesn't like it.

and i think there's a difference between 'being an asshole' and 'joking' which is why i said that. or at least just fucking with whoever about the drug. i'm sure she wasn't taking a personal shot at you.

relax.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

whoah man didn't know you were that sensitive relax please its just a drug. i mean i'm sure its godsend to you and all but really don't take it personally if someone else doesn't like it.

and i think there's a difference between 'being an asshole' and 'joking' which is why i said that. or at least just fucking with whoever about the drug. i'm sure she wasn't taking a personal shot at you.

relax.

I was unaware that I got that excited.

[HistoryofMadness]

I was unaware that I got that excited.

Not excited, just insulting. But hey to each his own.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

Well then, I guess the insult was returned. The funny thing about people is that they might say a thing and forget that somtimes people fire back with a return comment. I was not the first to become witty...

[Hammilton]

There's absolutely no scientific evidence to support the claim that not putting it into a solution with Alcohol or PEG will cause it to be absorbed as clumps. In fact, there's no evidence that it's even possible for an orally absorbed drug to be absorbed in clumps the way you claim.

I can't find any evidence that "most dextromethorphan overdoses are caused by redosing too soon." Lots of evidence for methadone deaths caused by that. Most Dextrometorphan-related deaths I could find information on were caused by the other stuff in the cold medicines, or mixing it with other drugs. Couldn't find much at all related to direct overdoses.

If we want to toss around erroneous claims of misinformation, lets talk about attempts to pass off opinion as fact and anecdotes as evidence.

You seem to be pretty tense and defensive- and yet have no problem insulting anyone who doesn't agree. There's a major difference between discussing facts and experiences and coming off as real arrogant because someone disagrees with you. You may get as offended as you like- but you're bitching at paying members who're regulars.

It's ridiculous to take a joke about a drug as a personal attack. It's a fucking chemical for christs sake. You've got my permission to make fun of methadone, morphine and dilaudid- my personal favorites. I promise to take it gracefully.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

There's absolutely no scientific evidence to support the claim that not putting it into a solution with Alcohol or PEG will cause it to be absorbed as clumps. In fact, there's no evidence that it's even possible for an orally absorbed drug to be absorbed in clumps the way you claim.

I can't find any evidence that "most dextromethorphan overdoses are caused by redosing too soon." Lots of evidence for methadone deaths caused by that. Most Dextrometorphan-related deaths I could find information on were caused by the other stuff in the cold medicines, or mixing it with other drugs. Couldn't find much at all related to direct overdoses.

If we want to toss around erroneous claims of misinformation, lets talk about attempts to pass off opinion as fact and anecdotes as evidence.

You seem to be pretty tense and defensive- and yet have no problem insulting anyone who doesn't agree. There's a major difference between discussing facts and experiences and coming off as real arrogant because someone disagrees with you. You may get as offended as you like- but you're bitching at paying members who're regulars.

It's ridiculous to take a joke about a drug as a personal attack. It's a fucking chemical for christs sake. You've got my permission to make fun of methadone, morphine and dilaudid- my personal favorites. I promise to take it gracefully.


Looks like some one needs to read the DXM FAQ...

[OxyContinuously]

There is nothing wrong with DXM, per se, but it really is a "poor man's" high. I can think of a dozen or so things that i would take before DXM, tylenol #3 being one of them, just to give you an idea. DXM is more of the "rebellious pizza faced teenager" type thing, and it's not my thing.

Great for coughs, though!!

[Hammilton]

Looks like some one needs to read the DXM FAQ...

You're still using anecdotes as evidence. I prefer studies over what some rebellious pizza-faced teenager happened to put together between smearing on acne meds and slurping 12 ounce bottles laden with sugar and everything needed to add some brain lesions.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

You're still using anecdotes as evidence. I prefer studies over what some rebellious pizza-faced teenager happened to put together between smearing on acne meds and slurping 12 ounce bottles laden with sugar and everything needed to add some brain lesions.

Brain lesion eh?...now who's spouting anecdotes. Olneys tests were never proved to be conclusive as to whether the same effect would occur in humans. So much for the studies that you must tout as being so high.

Also, most of the people serious enough about getting DXM would not be buying 12oz preps of tussin as that would likely be a prep that contains Guaifenesin. Further more, the person that wrote the DXM faq (William White) is actually pretty well respected for the lengths that he went to in his research. In fact, I would go as far to say that his knowledge of this subject is greater than yours.

[SuperJunky]

Gaufasein is one of the only ingredients you dont really have to worry about. Its only side affect is nausea, and if you use the acid base extract on a product containing only that and DXM it isnt carried over into the final product in any meaningful level.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

Gaufasein is one of the only ingredients you dont really have to worry about. Its only side affect is nausea, and if you use the acid base extract on a product containing only that and DXM it isnt carried over into the final product in any meaningful level.

That is a given yes, but what I was getting at is that even moderately informed teens know to use the DXM ONLY preps for the best buzz. Hammilton listed the substance like so many have, giving it a negative image. (i.e. pizza faced teenager)