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SuperJunky
01-18-2007, 10:05 PM
I wasnt 100% sure were to put this, or exactly how it will be recieved, but here it goes.

I dont remember who said it or exactly when but it went something along the lines of "too bad we opiophiles cant make our own personal supply of drugs like the tweekers can..."

Well, recent events in my life combined w/ this statement got me thinking, while you can't make opies cheap and easy you can crank. You can then sell the crank to tweekers, and buy opies w/ the $. A quick search of the net gives you tons of methods to make the shit, but I have no idea which are real and which will yeild posion or explode. So does any one know what methods work best? Or is any one w/ some formal chem training willing to look over some methods and sort them out? I dont like the idea of the Anhydrous amonmia, I could never rob a farmer. I was leaning towards the Iodine Red phosphorouse method.

As a rule of thumb (atleast from what I've seen) even the most strung out junkie is a lot more rational and level headed than a tweeker, so why dont they just leave the kitchen chem stuff to us? I know I could use the money, and if some of the people I've seen make meth can do it, I know I could. I dont have a real good understanding of chemistry, but I have some idea what I'm doing and I atleast understand you shouldnt smoke around ether and the consecuences of lithium ending up in the final product.

I'm not completly seriouse here, just one of those demented thoughts I like to cultivate in my mind. I'm sure a lot of the people here like meth as well as opiates even if I hate the shit. Regaurdless I'm still interested in which synths are real and which are bunk, maybe it would stop some one from killing themselves or some one else. Here are a few synths I found. Any and all input is greatly apreciated. If I have offended any one that uses crank I'm sorry, I am just yet to meet anyone in real life that uses the crap and isnt a complete and total peice of shit, and I'm sure some were in an alternate forum a tweeker is asking some one to look over fent synths so they can sell the shit to dumb junkies and pay for there meth.


Acidmelts Slacker Reaction
This reaction is brought about the same as every other push/pull rxn in the book. You have to know how to extract psuedoephedrine(E) and clean it, you have to know how to extract the red phosphorus(RP) off matchbooks (or where ever you get it from), and how to properly clean the red phosphorus. you must also know how to clean up your iodine(I2) to a proper grade.
I am not going to go into how to do these procedures as they are covered in seperate pages on Chemhead. with this easy to follow synth, i will start at mixing the reactants and where to go from there. keep in mind that this is only a dream and a very simple dream at that. i have never tried this and i have never met someone that has tried it. its just well organized thoughts in a well organized matter. i don't condone this activity or any illegal activity for that matter. don't try this at home. (try it at a neighbors house when they are gone for the weekend)
What you will need:
1.Flask with nipple connection
2.Stopper (that fits the flask)
3.Electric Burner
4.Candy Thermometer
5.1and 1/2ft. of plastic tubing to fit on the nipple of your flask
6.Separatory Funnel
7.Chemical Resistant latex gloves
8.Visionware Glass Bowl or pot.
9.Regular cooking pot
10.Distilled H2O
11.RedDevil Lye
12.Hydrocloric acid (Muriatic Acid)
13.Duct Tape
14.Litmus Paper
15.Non-Polar Solvent (Colemans Fuel, Toluene...)
ok here is how it goes... use the 1 part E, to 1.2 parts I2, to .8parts RP ratio for reactions under 1oz. So for example you would use 10g of E, 12g of I2, and 8g of RP. First take the RP and the E and mix well in a plastic baggie. Take this and pour it into your flask, covering the bottom of it. Next pour in your I2 and close with a solid rubber stopper. Duct tape this on so it dont pop off during the reaction. you should all ready have your foot and a half of plastic tubing secured onto the nipple of the flask, and a pair of your chemical resistant gloves on. After you get the 3 goodies mixed in the bottom of the flask you will want to hold the end of the tubing closed with your thumb.(gloves on!)(safety glasses too)
Sit back and watch it start to react. Sometimes it will react right away and sometimes not. Just watch and see. It will start turning to a muddy texture, and then to a liquid. Every onece and a while release pressure in the flask by moving your thumb. now it will not always turn liquid before the cook. not totally liquid anyway. Just sit back releasing pressure when it gets great and wait for the reaction to really slow down.
All right, everything going good so far? Not too hard heh? Now you will want to cook the reaction to get it going again. Before you start all of this put your regular cooking pot on your electric burner and find out where the dial is at 150F. So turn on your burner and set it at 150F. Put your cooking pot with a little water or vegetable oil in the bottom on the burner, and put your flask in that. after a few minutes this bitch will really get cookin. It will start bubbling and the mixture will expand. All in all it is going to start to get a little crazy. Every few minutes pick up the flask and shake and stir it up a little. And usually release a little pressure every shake or every other shake. You will be able to feel the pressure building up on your thumb. When it gets bad release a little.
Just keep this going for while. You will want to slowly turn up the heat to about 180F over a 20 minute period. The push part of the reaction will keep going for about 20 minutes to 45 minutes. It usually lasted for about half an hour in my dreams. You will know when to stop cooking when the push stops. (when no more gas is being pushed out of the flask. When this has occured be sure to keep your thunb over the tubing and take the flask out of the pot and just set it on the counter. From this point on, you are going to keep your thumb tightly over the tubing until the flask has cooled down. During the cooling you want to pick up the flask with your other hand and stir and shake the ingredients in the flask every few minutes. It will probaly take about 20 minutes (if that) for the flask to cool down. You want it to be cool enough to hold in your hand with out burning yourself. You will feel the pull start as your vessel cools down. it will be trying to suck air back into the flask now. You are aloud a very little bit of air into the flask but not much at all. Remember to keep stirring and shaking the flask during the cooling.
When the flask has cooled down to a suitable state, (keeping your thumb over the tubing still) stick your thumb and the end of the tubing into a bowl of distilled H20 and release. The vacuum in the flask will pull water into the flask. Dont let to much into the flask just a little. now pull the tubing out of the water and let it suck air into the tubing. Thats it. thats the reaction. not to hard hey? Now lets clean up that chilli. All ready smelling success? wait and see.
Shake up the chilli/H20 in the flask, take off the duct tape and the stopper, and pour directly into the clean visionware bowl. now pour a little more distilled water into empty flask (just a little) and shake up real good. this is just to get out the rest of what ever is left in the flask. put the bowl on the burner and turn on high. bring to a boil while stirring with a clean plastic spoon. This will get the some chilli that is stuck on the RP off of it. turn of burner and let sit for a minute or two. be sure to save all your RP so you can wash it and reuse it later.
While this is cooling off a little, grab your funnel and put in 3 coffee filters and stuff a cotton ball in the tip of the funnel. put this over a clean glass jar. now pour everything that is in the visionware bowl into the funnel. it will take a while to filter because of the RP. once all the meth water is filtered through, into the glass jar, pour it back through the same filters (with the RP in it) again. you will want to do this at least 4 times. just keep pouring it through the same filter/cottonballs. now it should have a yellowish collor, but not foggy at all. it should be very clear.
Pour this into your separatory funnel, and add just a little ice. now pour in a little colemans fuel (or toluene). add a little less than the amount of water/meth you have in there. now slowly add a little lye to the sep. funnel, and shake well. drop a small drip onto your litmus paper to test the Ph. (you will be testing the water/meth layer, NOT the colemans fuel layer) you want the Ph to be 12. (yellow) if it is not a Ph of 12 then add a little more lye and shake the hell out of it and test again. keep doing this till it test out at 12. After it test at 12 drop in a tablespoon of table salt, and shake well. Now we are going to seperate the layers in the funnel. We want to keep the NP Solvent (Colemans), not the water/lye layer.
Put the water layer in a jar and set aside. you can test for meth later. Keep the colemans fuel/meth in the seperatory funnel. microwave a big glass of new distilled H2O till it is hot. pour in one third the amount of water (compared to the colemans) and shake well. drain the water out. repeat this 4 times. you are washing the NP Solvent. now once again, add one third the amount of water to the sep. funnel and drop in a few drops of Hcl. (Muriatic Acid) Shake for a few minutes. then test the ph of the ph of the water layer. you want it to test at 7.2 or at least close to that. if it doesnt, add a few more drops of Hcl and shake the hell out of it again and test again. after it is the proper ph, drain the water layer into your visionware bowl and put it on the burner and boil down. you can finish with a hairdryer if you want. now go back to your colemans fuel in the seperatory funnel and add a little more distilled water. we are going to do a second pull on the non-polar solvent. add a few more drops of Hcl and shake it up again. test the ph again. looking for 7.2 again. once you reach 7.2 again drain your meth/water into your clean visionware bowl (you should have all ready scraped out the crystals from the last pull that you all ready evaporated. now evaporate again. remember that if your not in a hurry, evaporating it with a hair dryer will increase yeilds. Some chefs even do a third pull.
Thats it. you now have clean and pure crystal meth. if you want to clean up even more read up on it on the recrystalizing page on Chemhead. Have Fun, and be safe.




Here's a VERY easy way of makin' meth. My friends say this METHod works, I've seen the end product and it seems to be meth although I haven't tried it. Here's how to make it.
The chemicals you'll need:

Ephedrine/Pseudoephedrine.
Iodine.
Red phosphorus.
Ether.
Hydrochloric Acid.
Sodium hydroxide.
Methanol. Equipment you'll need:

3 Plastic jars with lids.
Coffee filters.
Eyedropper.
Glass dish.
Funnel. Here's how to extract the ephedrine/pseudoephedrine:

Firstly the pills are washed with acetone (we use ether) to remove the red colour.
Crush your pills and put them in a jar.
Add the methanol and fit with lid. Shake jar hard for approx. 15 minutes.
Leave it to settle and your pseudoephedrine will be dissolved in the alcohol while the waxes and fillers will settle to the bottom.
Carefully pour the top layer into a funnel with coffee filter and onto a glass dish.
Evaporate the alcohol (gentle heat and/or hair dryer.) And you'll be left with pseudoephedrine. METHod:

Add the Ephedrine/Pseudoephedrine to iodine, red phosphorus and hydrochloric acid in a jar. And fit with lid. Shake it for approx. 20-30 mins. Then leave it to settle for approx. 15-20 mins.
Add sodium hydroxide to the ephedrine/pseudoephedrine mix, fit with the lid and was gently shake. repeat this step until the mixture remains cloudy. (fit the lid after the sodium hydroxide had stopped reacting).
Add ether to the Ephedrine/Pseudoephedrine mix, fit the lid and shake for approx. 8 mins.
Leave the mixture to settle for approx. 5 mins and a thick middle layer can be seen, tap the side of the jar to get this layer a thin as possible.
Remove the top layer using an eyedropper making sure not to get any of the middle in there. save the top layer and throw the rest away.
Fill another jar half-way with water, and add about 10 drops of acid. Add the saved top layer to this, fit the lid and shake for approx. 3 mins.
Once the mix has settled remove the top layer and throw it away, keeping the bottom layer.
Evaporate the bottom layer and the remaining crystals are methamphetamine.

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/revisededitedi173100.html

http://www.okienarc.org/nazilab.htm I found this one humerouse, its a cop telling other cops how meth is made and why the labs are so dangerouse. Tells everything you need to make it.

Curio
01-18-2007, 10:20 PM
:speechles

robojunkie
01-18-2007, 11:46 PM
Interesting idea, don't make your own, makes someone else's and trade (doc that is)! I like it...Since that's obviously from a certain site based on the "phraseologly" I figure it would be a good idea to point out that I have always heard that one wants to mix the P/I/water first in order to activate the catalytic cycle (too many arrows and shit to draw here) where you get the HI from the P/water initially and as it heats the HI goes to hydrogen and iodine. The benzyl alcohol then is iodized via PI3 and reduced via H2. the PSE/E keeps the cycle going. Hope that makes sense. Also always heard, even on less than an ounce that generally 8-12 hours is required. Oh yeah, a balloon helps isolating the system preventing any possible phosphines from escaping a fucked up reaction and keeps the hydrogen generated from leaching out over time, fucking up the equillibrium.

Sorry I'm bored and got nothin else to do. I don't go on that site but I've read just about all the "underground" procedures and that 's what I usually hear. Not that anyone here probably cares about makin' it with tina. Well, on second thought retract that last statemtent.

As I've said I've read most of the variations on the benzyl-OH reductions via P/HI and from what I know I would say that rhodium's (or at least the one he hosted, don't know if its his) detailed procedure is one of the best, and realistic.

Oh and crap, almost forgot here's one of the differences between clean and gacked meth...forgetting the step where 1) add thiosulfate to decomp any aziridines and 2) quite important, extract with toluene/whatever immediately after filtering spent phosphorous to remove junk (and there will be lot's of it from what I hear, hell even phenylacetone, ie P2P, gets formed in this, that gives the whole thing a certain fruity smell from what I've heard, never smelled it myself). You should do this until the toluene comes clear, then basify, extract and hit with the gaseous hcl to precipitate. Much cleaner way of doing it. The guy you cited does it in reverse...you don't wash non-polar impurities out with water, this is the first thing you do after filtration...In fact having all those impurities (you can look them up, they've been all analyzed by bored analytical dea chemists, though these are just reaction ones, not post reaction) in the basic solution in not good...

I know no one's gonna do this, after its opiophile not crystal methophile so I don't mind detailing it a little, like I said I'm bored. Plus these "recipes" are ubiquitous on the web. It's kinda funny to read some of those sites...total opposite of here...people flaming each others' techniques, callin' BS on everything, personal attacks...never "joined/posted" them but used to love reading that shit...

Papa Verine
01-19-2007, 12:11 AM
Fuck making meth! Because you're going to use the proceeds to buy opiates, this is a brilliant idea???? I'm not getting it...

jacky
01-19-2007, 01:49 AM
not my favored compound. tried to take it for 3 days in a row and I just couldnt, I got too damn depressed.
the stuff is HOT HOT HOT on the radar, and it seems more than a few narcs are floating around in that scene.

better off trying to make caine from arecoline.

get busted with heroin, they feel sorry for your drug addicted ass, sometimes just throw the stuff away, get busted with meth and you are instantly a threat to everyone around you and swiftly removed the problem gets filed away....

robojunkie
01-19-2007, 02:01 AM
Fuck making meth! Because you're going to use the proceeds to buy opiates, this is a brilliant idea???? I'm not getting it...

Note sarcasm in first line (if for me)...regardless that procedure is so ghetto as to guarantee crappy yield/crappy product, that's why I commented on things about it primarily...

Although, in principle its not that much different than dealing H to support one's own use of H; or dealing coke to support H, or dealing [fill in the blank] to pay for H. Right? At least in the sense that it doesn't take any special skills to deal whatever "right" whereas the other thing, well maybe you'll have some happy repeat customers if you don't mind dealing with tweakers, or you'll fuck it up, make people sick/give them weak as shit and well wind up making a target out of one's self. Personally I prefer the poppy farming concept...wish I had land and lots of it.

youwonhundred
01-19-2007, 03:21 AM
I have to object simply because god damn I hate dealing with tweakers. Junkies, I can undertsand and relate to. We make sense (ok maybe we don't make sense and this is all rationalization but maybe not)... Tweakers I just want to slap

OxyContinuously
01-19-2007, 12:26 PM
thats a mickey mouse meth recipe if I ever saw one (joking, joking)

HeidiW
01-19-2007, 12:37 PM
No offense, but there are much easier ways to make $. It is almost impossible to acquire all the ephedrine needed nowadays to make a batch. All Sudafed and likewise cold meds. are behind the pharmacy counter now. You have to show ID to buy it and your information is recorded. To hell with all that scrutiny. My days of bathtub chemistry are long over.

Paregoric Kid
01-19-2007, 04:29 PM
good luck finding red phosphorus. methcathinone is much easier to make and goes for about the same amount of money.

SuperJunky
01-19-2007, 07:29 PM
good luck finding red phosphorus. methcathinone is much easier to make and goes for about the same amount of money.

I was kicking that idea around too, most people have no idea what they're putting in thier bodies, and wouldnt know what it was even if you told them. What ive seen these people make isnt even real methamphetamine. Its weird shit, it dissolves in air sometimes, and if you put a bump in a spoon and add water it doubles the vloume ie 10 units of water goes in the spoon suck it up and you have 20-25. The methcsthinone does seem really easy to make, I wasnt completly seriouse when I first posted this but its seeming like a better and better idea. But of course any idea that could make you money sounds good when your broke. I doubt any one would know the difference between this and real meth seeing as most people around here have never had real meth. Hell i've seen people get away w/ selling some crappy amphetamine as coke. Every thing went ok untill one kid was allergic to amphetamines and dropped dead. Buy the ticket take the ride.

greenfox
01-20-2007, 12:06 AM
I'm not a narc, but that's about the one thing that could *almost* push me to be one, (key word being "almost") I've seen soooooooooo many people fuck their shit up with that damn "high speed chicken feed"... there are ENOUGH death drugs in the world: fuck meth!

greenfox
01-20-2007, 12:08 AM
Hehe but wait! Wanna do meth? Sure! Smoke SOME!

HeidiW
01-20-2007, 01:11 AM
where in the hell did you find those pictures???

robojunkie
01-20-2007, 01:38 AM
Come on guys, lets not hate on the tweakers too much...after they could just as easily post pics with horrible abcesses, amputated arms from missed shots/gangrene, etc. Just like with us junkies its always the worst examples of a given drug subculture that gets all the media attention and are used as gov propaganda. Not that I disagree at all that I'd rather chill with junkies any day of the week and sometimes the real hardcore tweakers with the paranoia/no benzos/anti-H/no comedown craziness can be pretty fucking unnerving...

greenfox
01-20-2007, 01:58 PM
where in the hell did you find those pictures???

rotten.com

SuperJunky
01-20-2007, 03:11 PM
Does any one know if it would look funny if I were to order chromium trioxide? I dont think it would, I couldnt find anything saying it was a watched chemical. I need to order sulpheric acid as well, I'm assuming that would be fine as well. What about together, or should I play it safe and order them from different companys? There are no chemical supply places any were near were I live, atleast not that I know of, a google search and the phone book turned up nothing.

blackdog
01-20-2007, 03:35 PM
1160 like these opios??

1161

1162



sulpuric acid can be found in hardware stores
masons use it to clean concrete tools and brickface etc etc......i think?

Opiyum
01-20-2007, 03:40 PM
good luck finding red phosphorus. methcathinone is much easier to make and goes for about the same amount of money.


I think it's pretty common to simply scrape red match heads. Don't know if it is Red phosphorous but I know that whatever it is it serves as a substitute.

SuperJunky
01-20-2007, 04:03 PM
Also, any one know the ratio of sudaphed in to methacathinone out? Is it different for ephedrine? A synth I found suggested using 25 grams of ephedrine, if you used 1000 sudafed tabs that would give you 30grams of sudafed. It would take a long time to buy that many pills w/ out raising suspicion. A couple people told me that some stores dont save the records, ie they have you sign for it but toss it at the end of the month. I was under the impression that the records were saved and given to the dea or some other gov organization.

Any one know if it would be practical to grow ephedra and extract the ephdrine from it? Or what about buying aphedra tablets and extracting from those, or bulk herb? Is this cheaper than buying sudafed? Would a simple acid base extraction do the job? Any one know what else is in ephedra? Would it get extracted w/ the ephedra? Now that I have all this out here time to research.

SuperJunky
01-20-2007, 04:12 PM
I think it's pretty common to simply scrape red match heads. Don't know if it is Red phosphorous but I know that whatever it is it serves as a substitute.

Its not the match heads, its the part of the books you strike the matches on, not the diamond pattern but the smooth ones. On another note wood chuck bombs contain up to 15% red phosphorouse as well as some other toxic things. Dont know how hard it would be to extract/seperate out. If I find one of the old ones w/ the red phosphorouse in it I'll post the ingredients.

SuperJunky
01-20-2007, 04:20 PM
Does any one know if it would look funny if I were to order chromium trioxide? I dont think it would, I couldnt find anything saying it was a watched chemical. I need to order sulpheric acid as well, I'm assuming that would be fine as well. What about together, or should I play it safe and order them from different companys? There are no chemical supply places any were near were I live, atleast not that I know of, a google search and the phone book turned up nothing.

And to answer my own question chromium trioxide is used as a pigment in glazes for ceramics, so no, it wouldnt look funny to order it. And I cant find a company that sells both, so I dont have to worry about them together. I've always used muriatic (sp?) acid for HCI but for the sulfuric acid I think I'm going to order some reagent grade, I dont like the idea of buying battery electrolyte and boiling it down.

Any one ever bought "Crank" on the street? What does it sell for, aprox how pure is it? I've heard $70/gram 15% pure.

Also before any one starts giving me shit for trying to fallow a "recipe" I've had good luck extracting DXM from cough syrup (back in the day before pure DXM pills) and have sucsessfully made LSA and extracted pure DMT crystals from phylaris grass. I'm not saying that makes me qualified for anything, and I dont claim to b a chemist but I know more than alot of people in this area. Also the chances of me really making meth or cat are almost ), seeing as there isnt really a market for it were I am, and I dont like it. I guess its back to growing poppies to get cheap dope. I still like to think about it though.

Also sorry for multiple post in a row.

nick
01-20-2007, 05:24 PM
Look bro,I'm not getting on your case,but I don't think this is a good idea.There are better ways to make cash(as heidi points out).Just my two cents worth.

SuperJunky
01-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Look bro,I'm not getting on your case,but I don't think this is a good idea.There are better ways to make cash(as heidi points out).Just my two cents worth.

I know, I dont really plan on doing this, I just like to entertain the thought, make the plans etc. A few years back I made up a big plan to make $30,000 on exstacy for less than $700 of materials and equipment. Just a neat idea, plus if someone does really want to do this, personal use or what ever, I havnt found any good solid info on it. I've never understood tweekers, I have no idea what they pay what there culture is etc, I just find it interesting. I have 5 or 6 books on making acid but I dont plan on doing that either, I just find these types of things entertaining.

I work my ass off to pay for my habit. Everything I do is legit, I dont steal or partake in any illegal activities other than doing opiates and other recreational substances. I'm a farmer, winters are long and boring and pretty tight on cash. Its all just an appealing fantasy. If I really wanted to cash in on the illegal drug trade I could grow pot and make a killing.

chemboy7
01-21-2007, 08:30 AM
Any one ever bought "Crank" on the street? What does it sell for, aprox how pure is it? I've heard $70/gram 15% pure.



Well, besides not wanting to deal with tweakers you got to think that every sale is another potential to get busted; I would think, if it were to be done, the proper way to do it is to find 1 or 2 people that you can deal quantity to exclusively. I'd sell it by the ounce, uncut, to a select few. Just too dangerous for the production side of the market to be dealing with the consumers.

flipside
01-21-2007, 08:49 AM
Personally I prefer the poppy farming concept...wish I had land and lots of it.

Need lots more opios willing or able to grow thier own. Now this seems like a feasible plan for those of us who partake in the poppy trade.

sorcerer745
02-17-2007, 09:10 PM
K bro, I don't think its a great idea but if your going to do it the anhydrous amonia method is by far the easiest, the methcat is very easy to make also but they both suck as far as i'm concerned and it just seems like there a hole difrent tribe then opie heads and there just not nice to deal with

HeidiW
02-17-2007, 10:59 PM
I promise you this. If you start making your own speed without a thorough knowledge of chemistry, you'll possibly kill yourself or others. Not to mention, you'll be inviting surveillance from the pesky pigs, guaranteed. The penalties, if you're caught, are are many, many years.

Trust me, it ain't worth it.

Do any of you know what anhydrous ammonia is and what it can do to your lungs and extremities? It's liquified gas with a normal holding temperature of -40' C. Not, to mention, being caught trying to buy or steal it is a Level 1 Drug Felony. Do you have any idea how to get out of the buggy or mother tank without blowing yourself to shreds?

Not trying to be a bitch, you really need to think about what the hell you're doing. You CANNOT go out and cook dope unless you know what the fuck you're doing.

youwonhundred
02-17-2007, 11:17 PM
I promise you this. If you start making your own speed without a thorough knowledge of chemistry, you'll possibly kill yourself or others. Not to mention, you'll be inviting surveillance from the pesky pigs, guaranteed. The penalties, if you're caught, are are many, many years.

Trust me, it ain't worth it.

Do any of you know what anhydrous ammonia is and what it can do to your lungs and extremities? It's liquified gas with a normal holding temperature of -40' C. Not, to mention, being caught trying to buy or steal it is a Level 1 Drug Felony. Do you have any idea how to get out of the buggy or mother tank without blowing yourself to shreds?

Not trying to be a bitch, you really need to think about what the hell you're doing. You CANNOT go out and cook dope unless you know what the fuck you're doing.

Wise words right there. Besides, meth is some pretty nasty shit. I guess I am just spoiled, or a chemical snob, or whatever. I just dont like the shit. And thats ALL there is here in my neck of the woods.

cracksinthepavement
02-17-2007, 11:43 PM
I have to say this is just about the worst idea I have ever heard of.

HeidiW
02-17-2007, 11:44 PM
Yes, like playing hot potato with a landmine or grenade.

HeidiW
02-18-2007, 09:59 AM
Yeah, I was a HARD-CORE tweaker for 10 years, I can't knock 'em too much, it's just not for me anymore. .. I prefer my opiates now.

SuperJunky
02-18-2007, 10:50 AM
I don't like crank, I do know something about chemistry, just not everything. Its not something I really plan on doing, I just like to discuss how it should be done correctly. I know some people that cook and they have no clue, they put a whole buncha shit in a pot, mix it up, add water and pick the crud out and sell it. Really sketchy shit. I seriously just wanted to discuss theory here.

As for anhydrous ammonia its also a commercial fertilizer. I could easily order it seeing as I work in the Agriculture business, but I have no desire to do so. We had a small tank of it at one point but, you guessed it, it was stolen, and it wasnt that great of a fertalizer anyways.

Does anyone know about making anhydrous ammonia from ammonium nitrate? I've never heard of such a thing but thats what these tweekers I know say they do. But these people also have no concept of even acid/base extractions, I have no idea how they havnt killed some one yet.

HeidiW
02-18-2007, 10:52 AM
Super junky, you need to PM me right now.

HeidiW
02-18-2007, 10:56 AM
you cannot get anhydrous ammonia anymore unless you are a farmer, and you better have the documentation to back it up. NH3 is waterless ammonia. there is no way I know of to synthesize it from nitrate pellets.

would you please trust me about this shit? I grew up on a farm using annie. We'd kill rats with the hose, freezing them into place.

chemboy7
02-18-2007, 12:07 PM
you cannot get anhydrous ammonia anymore unless you are a farmer, and you better have the documentation to back it up. NH3 is waterless ammonia. there is no way I know of to synthesize it from nitrate pellets.

would you please trust me about this shit? I grew up on a farm using annie. We'd kill rats with the hose, freezing them into place.

Anhydrous Ammonia, while severely watched, can be gotten in different ways than just jacking farmers. Sure some places may require documentation and ask you crucial questions about your "business" that you'd have to be on your toes and be able to answer but if you think hard enough and look you can find about any chemical. Everyone on here is always going on about how difficult it is to get your hands on Acetic Anhydride but I know of a place right now where I can order small quantities of it with hardly any problems at all. But if you have to ask how to get the chemicals you shouldn't be messing around with trying to cook your own dope.

There are ways to make Methamphetamine without Anhydrous Ammonia anyways.

superman
02-19-2007, 02:14 AM
sorry superjunkie, but your 'recipe' won't work for at least two obvious reasons; the first being that you're lacking in the prerequisite skills, the second being that it applies to ancient psuedo tabs.

don't expect soaring profits from pseudo tabs without an assload of effort and reading and shopping and asking lots of quesitons to which people will reply 'utfse'.

rockbottom
05-17-2008, 07:43 AM
did meth for 25 yrs have all my teeth,im 46 dont look it , i got good raises, had great sex , think ijust naturally quit speed while getting older. i always had the shit and did it every day. while i did it i loved it FUCK THE HATERS!!! make sure you carry around a bottle of water at all times(beer works) eat mega vitamins and try to force feed yourself. like when your coming down eat then. by the way smoking came along later we always slammed it or snorted it. seemed like smoking was such a waste. now days im an old man who loves his benzos and opiates. ~Peace~ ---Rockbottom-- god i had fun as fuck thinking spys were trying to kill me and shooting up the place when super paranoia hit--luckily ilived in the desert-- wouldn't have lasted long in the city~Peace~---Rock---:cool:

Raz
05-17-2008, 09:21 AM
did meth for 25 yrs have all my teeth,im 46 dont look it , i got good raises, had great sex , think ijust naturally quit speed while getting older. i always had the shit and did it every day. while i did it i loved it FUCK THE HATERS!!! make sure you carry around a bottle of water at all times(beer works) eat mega vitamins and try to force feed yourself. like when your coming down eat then. by the way smoking came along later we always slammed it or snorted it. seemed like smoking was such a waste. now days im an old man who loves his benzos and opiates. ~Peace~ ---Rockbottom-- god i had fun as fuck thinking spys were trying to kill me and shooting up the place when super paranoia hit--luckily ilived in the desert-- wouldn't have lasted long in the city~Peace~---Rock---:cool:

Reminds me of back in the day Freebasing,(nothing free about it)....Looking out from behind the curtains with my 9ml stuck in my belt...I didnt want no one messing my buzz...Thats all....And i used to have to chase huge amounts of smack to come down.I mean a good ol teaspoon full,on a peice a foil that was a metre long...Ha an i wondered why i had a corony spasm at 27....DUH:o
Oh yeah, an i got eight false caps in my mouth, was honest with my dentist,an he told me coke will do that to ya,along with the shitty sugar they put in UK methadone...:rolleyes:....

RxQueen
05-17-2008, 01:51 PM
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another damn zombie thread resurrected! please check the dates on the posts before responding, rockbottom. if it's this old, it's not worth bringing back.