propoxy...?

[SomniGod]

What the hell is propoxy...sumthins...... some form of methadone...or opiate?
please advise ASAP.


thanks


~S~


btw~
They are large, pink, shaped like the icon for this post, and have :
z4980
imprinted on one side.

I have tried 2 pill iddentifier sites (they suck) which didn't turn up any info.

[jacky]

Propoxephine..................is darvon..........
An old junkie saying goes" darvon is to methadone what codeine is to morphine"

propoxephine , I am not sure that is the correct spelling, is an ok opioid, but pretty TOXIC....so be careful with it.
people seeking euthenasia have used darvocet for its toxic qualities, as it is a more deadly overdose than endogenous opioids like morphine or similiar compounds to morphine such as heroin, codeine etc.

I used to love propoxephine in my younger years, and drank quite a bit while taking darvocet, gobbling pills with acetominephan and drinking is pretty toxic, and I am lucky I didnt suffer any side effects besides euphoria and addiction.

I used around ten darvon a day for a few months in between occasional heroin scores out of state......it always helped me come off the H.
when I had to kick the darvon I just weened down to a few pills a day and then dropped it. it sucked but wasnt too bad, just anxiety and sleeplessness.

[SomniGod]

yup....that's exactly what I have out together from my searches.....

not sure the miligram or anything and wondering how many is enough......
thinking that 5-7 would be a mild start for a head like me.....

any input?


~S~

[JoyDivision]

In the US it's called propoxyphene hydrochloride or a stronger variant is called propoxyphene napsylate. But the napsylate salt takes longer to metabolise than the hydrochloride. So in fact the hcl variant is the better choice. I've been prescribed both and I really hate propoxyphene napsylate.
In AUS they are called dextropropoxyphene hcl & napsylate.
130mg of dextropropoxyphene hcl is a very good dose. But even if you are a regular say codeine user 65mg dextropropoxyphene will work (not as big a buzz) but it will work because it doesn't get converted to morphine it gets converted to something else which I forget the name of :-).
Wish we got 65mg dextropropoxyphene hcl in Oz. We only get shitty 32.5mg + 450mg apap (I think, I forget the exact amount but you can safely have 12 in a day. I consider 4g of paracetamol a day a safe limit. That's if you are like me and don't drink alcohol :-).

[Dirtyrockstar]

dude, we do get dextropropyphene in Oz, doloxene, 100mg dextro napsylate = 65 mg dextro hcl, but its kinda weak and from what i understand theres nothing to be done with it apart from swallowing it, if u try to mix it up to IV u get glug. if ne1 knows different pls feel free to enlighten me coz certain persons get 100 at a time but only use em to stop the hangs when theres no nothing opiate/opiod and its a week til the next dose of bupe or worse a month til the next bottle of xanax. personally (hypothetically of course) id rather swallow 10 dollys than a bunch of fortes coz the lack of paracetamol (acetimowhatever to you shermans) theres waaay less chance of ruining ur liver. anywhoo, if anyone knows a way to enhance the shit, apart from being drunk or benzo'd ie. iv luuurv to hear it. dunno how old this thread is but were all here to share info right? and i needs me some info. u kno... for a friend.. of a friend.. whose name i dunno ;)

[doctor diesel]

I used to take 180mg of dextropropoxyphene at a time for a buzz, and that was before I found H - I was merely a codeine junky then, so didn't have too much of a tolerance.
Mixed with 200mg tramadol that amount of propox took me to Heaven for about six hours. Unfortunately I've never been able to repeat the experience - must be a tolerance thang.

Doc

[doctor diesel]

I really don't think one 65mg pill will do anything detectable - if 65mg is what they are.

[Duckfeet]

I'm embarassed how strung I got on propoxyphene...it's considered so low rent as to be almost objectionable to even mention on here...but anyway, I was down in Tampico, Mexico a buncha years ago, me and a pal riding our Harleys screwing around down there. and we kept trying to find opiates and nothing worked, and shit, I see these "Neo-Percodans" and I bought a bunch of boxes of them, and me and my pal split a box of ten, five apiece, and wash'ed them down with the beer we steadily drank....and all I know, is about fifteen minutes later I got that thing we all know, that come-on that opiates do, and I remember us both jabbering to each other, we were like *stoked* finally, something worked, and he had a bunch of money, and we spent almost three months down there in the bars and riding around town. All they had in'em was propoxyphene, and again, I know most people seriously scorn that shit, but hey, it worked....god knows what it did to my liver, but I'm still around, and I'm older than dirt. for years after I came back, whenever me and my old lady had to escape dillaudids and other problems in Louisiana, we'd hop down to the border, and stock up on those mex. percs, and gobble'em down daily....terrible thing to admit, I know ;-)

[the morphine the better]

It's ok DuckFeet, I use to be all about the Darvocets. It was my main jam for a while because it was all I could get from the hospitals I used to scam. It is completely worthless to me at this point. I'm at about 160 of Oxy a day and 24 mg of Dilaudid, so uh Darvocet is a waste.

[Duckfeet]

Oh, I hear you: hell, it's been a long time since hydros did anything for me, either, much less codeine, or anything with propoxyphene...I'm on 80mg methadone, so nothing works...including the damned methadone itself...I catch myself looking at my watch an hr after dosing, thinking, "come-on, I must feel *something*..."


It's ok DuckFeet, I use to be all about the Darvocets. It was my main jam for a while because it was all I could get from the hospitals I used to scam. It is completely worthless to me at this point. I'm at about 160 of Oxy a day and 24 mg of Dilaudid, so uh Darvocet is a waste.

[NastyZilla]

"...I am lucky I didnt suffer any side effects besides euphoria and addiction."

OMG, that line is hysterical. Who is it that has the sig line full of other opie's quotes? Here's one to add!

About Darvocet - my Granny the Junkie always says, with the utmost contempt in her voice, "The only thing the doctor gave me was Darvocet!"

[insaneike]

Somni man, if you're the guy I'm thinking of you won't feel jack shit form propoxyphene, the stuff is right next to worthless for most ppl.
I tried 5-6 of them before I had ever touched a real opioid and didn't get anything really noticeable. Felt like the come up of something that was going to happen 'maybe' but nothing ever did. Plus they contain large amounts of acetaminophen, like 650mg a tab and shit. Plus if you get toward the doses that it'd be worthwhile at the shit gets very toxic due to what it motabalizes into.
I honestly don't see why they haven't pulled this shit from the pharms and stores yet! It is literally no more effective at pain relief than aleve/naproxen or ibuprofen! It is addictive, and it becomes very toxic when people abuse it, and we all know every abusable drug is indeed abused. So you can bet it has done harm to many.

It is also the weakest opioid around, much weaker than codeine, and that should say it all:rolleyes:
I'm rpetty sure you're the smoni guy I've talked to a few times, if so you sued to be doing Roxis, well, throw this shit out to some n00bs for a buck or two if you can get it and buy pods even with the $ man...

[Seedy]

^^ Ike, you're right, I read through the whole thread thinking I must be thinking of something different but you've just summed it up. We get it as paradex over here and I found it completely useless back when codiene used to get me nicely high

[Paregoric Kid]

propoxyphene is to methadone what codeine is to morphine is a perfect analogy.
it is good when you are in withdrawal. the racemic version is common in the US mixed with tylenol. pure dextropropoxyphene is twice as strong in its opioid properties than the racemic mixture (100mg of dextropropoxyphene = 200mg propoxyphene). the reason it is toxic and sometimes used in suicides is because of its anesthetic properties. at high doses it acts as a local anesthetic, it's actually stronger than lidocaine. it causes problems with your heart through cardiac membrane sodium channel blockage and increased PR, AH, HV, and QRS intervals.
it can kill, just look at gonzo/punk journalist Lester Bangs, he died from a darvon and valium overdose.

[Dirtyrockstar]

Its the weakest shit there is no doubts there, 2/3 the strength of codeine, but seeing its pure i feel safe dropping 1200mg at a time, still no real buzz i think someone said earlier it feels like something MIGHT happen but then it doesn't.

So any info on making the shit dissolve? i been trawling for as much info as possible and apparently while the pure hcl is water soluble and abusable (provided ur a lightweight naturally) the napsylate is only really soluble in alcohol and seeing i dun drink im hardly likely to stick it in my arm.

also re: propoxy is like comparing codeine is to morph, fuckn spot on!
AND the napsylate takes twice as long to reach peak plasma concentration. you just cant win can you?

im australian. our words for these stupid fuckn things are poxys (unsure if poxy means shitty in other parts of the globe) or dollys (short for doloxene)