Dillaudid IV questions

[Somnifere]

Hi all. I've been reading posts on this site here and there and decided now to post my own since I have a few questions. ;) I've recently gotten my hands on 10X4mg dillies for 50$. Is that a good deal? Also, I'd like to know the prep for IV'ing them. I know that someone just posted something about it recently but this is my understanding: crush the pill up and put it in spoon-add (how much in ml??) of water-heat but do not boil-add a cotton ball (have about 1inchX1inch) and let absorb-put needle in cotton and extract (does it all extract of some is always left behind?)-then do the normal IV thing (do I inject myself with this HOT liquid now or wait 'til it cools off?)-last step...enjoy. ;) Well, those are my questions and I hope some of you can answer since for now I've been crushing and snorting 'em and I read that IV'ing is the way to go with the dillies. Last question: I keep getting this space of air in the syringe when I test out the process with water...is that normal? Thanks all. :):cool:

[HeidiW]

Hi all. I've been reading posts on this site here and there and decided now to post my own since I have a few questions. ;) I've recently gotten my hands on 10X4mg dillies for 50$. Is that a good deal? Also, I'd like to know the prep for IV'ing them. I know that someone just posted something about it recently but this is my understanding: crush the pill up and put it in spoon-add (how much in ml??) of water-heat but do not boil-add a cotton ball (have about 1inchX1inch) and let absorb-put needle in cotton and extract (does it all extract of some is always left behind?)-then do the normal IV thing (do I inject myself with this HOT liquid now or wait 'til it cools off?)-last step...enjoy. ;) Well, those are my questions and I hope some of you can answer since for now I've been crushing and snorting 'em and I read that IV'ing is the way to go with the dillies. Last question: I keep getting this space of air in the syringe when I test out the process with water...is that normal? Thanks all. :):cool:
Me, I typically put 60 units of H20 on 1 pill from a 1cc syringe. Do not use a 1inchX1inch cotton ball, too much cotton. Pull you a little piece off a Q-tip, as small possible. Smaller the better. There won't be too much left in the spoon. If you picked 10 K4's for $50, you got a hell of a good deal!!:D

[nick]

Good advice from Heidi,but if you're asking these questions,think about it again.

[Somnifere]

Thanks for the tip Heidi...the Q-tip. ;) Still not sure about the units or cc's thing...I'm in Canada so it's in ml...do you know what that would be? And Nick, why do you say think about it again? Thanks.

[OxyContinuously]

Nick knows what he's talkin' about and he is just telling you to think long and hard before you embark down the road of shooting junk/morph/dilaudid/etc., cause you don't turn back, know what i mean?


Oxy

[chemboy7]

Thanks for the tip Heidi...the Q-tip. ;) Still not sure about the units or cc's thing...I'm in Canada so it's in ml...do you know what that would be? And Nick, why do you say think about it again? Thanks.

A ml and a CC are the same thing, units should be guaged at the same measurements also I would assume.

[tptptp]

Thanks for the tip Heidi...the Q-tip. ;) Still not sure about the units or cc's thing...I'm in Canada so it's in ml...do you know what that would be? And Nick, why do you say think about it again? Thanks.

Basically he saying if you havent shot yet don't start. Words of wisdom from a 20 year shooter. I've had friends really fuck up their lives end up in jail etc. from shooting, but thats another story.

[Somnifere]

Thank you for your concern guys. I know you have good intentions and I appreciate it. I'm an adult who takes full responsibility for my actions so let's move on to the rest of the info...so we've figured that a cc = 1ml, which seems correct after doing a little research. Now the thing that still baffles me is how much water do I mix to the powdered dilly? I have a 3ml or 3cc syringe...so how many ml's should I add? And what's a unit? Heidi mentioned adding 60 units...my last inquiry was about whether you wait to let it cool off or shoot up while the liquid is hot, after heating it, which sounds painful. hehe Also, does it matter if there is like a little space of air on top when you shoot? Thanks to all. :cool:

[tptptp]

Thank you for your concern guys. I know you have good intentions and I appreciate it. I'm an adult who takes full responsibility for my actions so let's move on to the rest of the info...so we've figured that a cc = 1ml, which seems correct after doing a little research. Now the thing that still baffles me is how much water do I mix to the powdered dilly? I have a 3ml or 3cc syringe...so how many ml's should I add? And what's a unit? Heidi mentioned adding 60 units...my last inquiry was about whether you wait to let it cool off or shoot up while the liquid is hot, after heating it, which sounds painful. hehe Also, does it matter if there is like a little space of air on top when you shoot? Thanks to all. :cool:

I'm sure someone may come along and help you but many people dont wanna have the weight of giving this advice out to someone whos never shot man, which is why I'd say theres been no response as of yet.

Good luck

[motorcitycheeze]

let's say you are doing one pill at a time

1.) crush pill,put powder in cooker.
2.) draw 40units of h2o in spike
3.) heat mixture till it clears.
4.) draw up mixture into spike shake, flick barrel of spike with finger
slowly push plunger until no air is left in barrel push a couple of drops of mixture through tip of spike
this will make sure no air left in your rig.
5.) Run cold water over barrel to just cool mixture. DON"T SHOOT HOT bad for veins.
6.) HIt mixture in favorite vein and enjoy.

I have been fixing for 37 years, and by rotating my sites I can still hit in my arms. I don't have to go in my feet or neck or groin.

[flipside]

Oxy[/quote]

Thank you for your concern guys. I know you have good intentions and I appreciate it. I'm an adult who takes full responsibility for my actions so let's move on to the rest of the info...so we've figured that a cc = 1ml, which seems correct after doing a little research. Now the thing that still baffles me is how much water do I mix to the powdered dilly? I have a 3ml or 3cc syringe...so how many ml's should I add? And what's a unit? Heidi mentioned adding 60 units...my last inquiry was about whether you wait to let it cool off or shoot up while the liquid is hot, after heating it, which sounds painful. hehe Also, does it matter if there is like a little space of air on top when you shoot? Thanks to all. :cool:


.6 ml. The number 6 on your syringe. Would be 60 units.

Do not inject hot liquid.

You could also go as high as 1 ml of H2o depending on the amount of dillies you are using. I always prefer less water..but that's just personal prefence.

It seems apparent that you are going to do this which is why I answered your question. But Nick and the others are right after 20 some odd years IV'ing myself.. it is a road once on very hard to get off of. Please don't mistake concern for arrogance or hypocrisy.

[HeidiW]

Yes, in retrospect, I feel like an IDIOT for not adding this to my original response to your question, please, think long and hard about the consequences of shooting opiates.

[chemboy7]

Thank you for your concern guys. I know you have good intentions and I appreciate it. I'm an adult who takes full responsibility for my actions so let's move on to the rest of the info...so we've figured that a cc = 1ml, which seems correct after doing a little research. Now the thing that still baffles me is how much water do I mix to the powdered dilly? I have a 3ml or 3cc syringe...so how many ml's should I add? And what's a unit? Heidi mentioned adding 60 units...my last inquiry was about whether you wait to let it cool off or shoot up while the liquid is hot, after heating it, which sounds painful. hehe Also, does it matter if there is like a little space of air on top when you shoot? Thanks to all. :cool:

How much water?
Less than or upto a cc a pill, it's really more of a prefference thing if your only doing one pill; you could probably fit something like 5 of 'em in your 3ml rig.

Let it cool off?
Yes; not only because the veins don't like hot solutions being pumped into them but because some solutions you get from some pills are going to gel up in the rig (or your body, if you just shoot it) upon cooling a bit... you don't want that shit in your veins. Probably also a good place to say that I heard there is a different formulation on Diluidid than the old school K4's, that now they contain talc (which you don't want to be shooting at all really). I don't know if that is exactly true or not, pretty sure I read that somewhere around here, I would definately check out the inactives before I messed around with it though.

Is it harmful to shoot alittle bit of air in your shot?
Really, probably not unless your shooting a nice amount of air; it shouldn't be that big of a problem. Although shooting air is a bad practice, it's not that hard to work it all out... why take the risk? I have seen some people shoot some big old air bubbles before though and they were fine, no heart problems; not something I would advise though. Your not going to get high on the air and it's not at all difficult to clear it from your rig.

Cleanliness is godliness, rotate your sites, start small and work up, avoid arteries (they will most likely be painful and force blood into your rig), make sure you get a flash and are in a vein everytime... don't miss shots when shooting pills, don't say we didn't warn you, enjoy the rush (good luck on the ride). :D

[Duckfeet]

I've heated'em a few times, but most times with dilaudids I just crush'em up good, pour powder in the rig, *then* suck up cold water, and shake a few times, then do it. I mean, I've done many that way. But it *is* better to crush up, put in spoon, then stir up, suck thru real small q-tip cotton...I just never gave a shit, that much, and nobody I hung out with did, either. We didn't want to waste any. Hell, we'd crush'em up in paper money, dirty as that is, since that was all we usually had around...and rarely were they big denominations, either, if u know what I mean. I'm still here...

And yeah, I know u don't want to hear it, but we feel duty bound to let u know, that once u start fixing d's, u'll never go back, most people take pretty tough turns in life after they discover that dilaudid rush...on the other hand, I've never met anybody that got talked out of it, either, so have fun, but say goodby to eating hydros or eating perks, or eating just about any opy, as far as that goes...

I don't mean to be a bad example, either. I just want to be honest. I expect that from people, and like u, I make my own decisions, and when someone asks a forthright question, I figure I ought to be square with them, tell'em what I did, not what I think I *shoulda* done...

Best wishes, enjoy...

[Somnifere]

Hey again all. Just want to thank you all for the info. and your concern and compassion, especially in the last posts. So I tried it and started small, being cautious, at 2mg. I followed all the steps, but, you know, after I did it I just felt this feeling...like I'll never do this again. Personally, it's not a rush or big high that I'm or was after. I suffer from chronic pains and what the doc has prescribed (Elavil) doesn't work for me, have over 200 pills lying around, and my appointment is not for a few months so I decided to take things into my own hands. Just saying this so you understand a little where I'm coming from. I've tried different opiates or opioids before such as codeine, oxycodone, ms contin, morphine, poppy tea as well as dilaudid. For me, it was always a way to get some type of relief from physical pains. So more medical than recreational, if you know what I mean. Anyhow, I tried shooting myself and didn't like the whole thing. I know some of you would swear by it, live your life by it and may, unfortunately, die by it...but I guess I realized that it's not for me and that's that. So, I walked away from what I consider to be a self-imposed mistake that was done without bad intentions. I've tried coke like 6 times and did like a quarter to myself many of those 6 times and people kept saying and I read that once you try you're done. I don't believe that. I walked away from that too. Not my thing. I smoked cigs. for 5 years, 2 packs of American stuff, which is stronger than Canadian, and quit cold turkey and you guys know how many people struggle with that. So, I think oftentimes it's a matter of self-discipline also and knowing where your limits are and respecting your body and those limits and wanting a better life for yourself. I think it's ok to experiment and do certain things here and there but when it becomes a "lifestyle..." nah. Man, I used to train at the gym and meditate and do healthy things so anyhow, I just wanted to let you all know what happened and how I appreciate your concern and advice on safe shooting but that's it with shooting for me. Tried it, didn't like it. I've been snorting the rest of the pills, which, as you know, hurts like f**k to your sinuses. hehe and think I'll stick to my poppy tea here and there to give me some relief, which it does and works. Doesn't mean I won't take any opiates again 'cause they have a real medicinal value but no more syringe stuff. I threw all things that I bought related to that in the trash and when I make a decision like that, it's over. So, sorry for the long post but thanks and hope you guys somehow get out of what you're in, if that's what you want, 'cause I know a lot of you are hooked...Just know this, your kind words DID make a difference to me. Also, I didn't mean to offend anyone in this post in any way either. Just wanted to share my experience and thoughts. Later all. ;)

[tptptp]

Hey again all. Just want to thank you all for the info. and your concern and compassion, especially in the last posts. So I tried it and started small, being cautious, at 2mg. I followed all the steps, but, you know, after I did it I just felt this feeling...like I'll never do this again. Personally, it's not a rush or big high that I'm or was after. I suffer from chronic pains and what the doc has prescribed (Elavil) doesn't work for me, have over 200 pills lying around, and my appointment is not for a few months so I decided to take things into my own hands. Just saying this so you understand a little where I'm coming from. I've tried different opiates or opioids before such as codeine, oxycodone, ms contin, morphine, poppy tea as well as dilaudid. For me, it was always a way to get some type of relief from physical pains. So more medical than recreational, if you know what I mean. Anyhow, I tried shooting myself and didn't like the whole thing. I know some of you would swear by it, live your life by it and may, unfortunately, die by it...but I guess I realized that it's not for me and that's that. So, I walked away from what I consider to be a self-imposed mistake that was done without bad intentions. I've tried coke like 6 times and did like a quarter to myself many of those 6 times and people kept saying and I read that once you try you're done. I don't believe that. I walked away from that too. Not my thing. I smoked cigs. for 5 years, 2 packs of American stuff, which is stronger than Canadian, and quit cold turkey and you guys know how many people struggle with that. So, I think oftentimes it's a matter of self-discipline also and knowing where your limits are and respecting your body and those limits and wanting a better life for yourself. I think it's ok to experiment and do certain things here and there but when it becomes a "lifestyle..." nah. Man, I used to train at the gym and meditate and do healthy things so anyhow, I just wanted to let you all know what happened and how I appreciate your concern and advice on safe shooting but that's it with shooting for me. Tried it, didn't like it. I've been snorting the rest of the pills, which, as you know, hurts like f**k to your sinuses. hehe and think I'll stick to my poppy tea here and there to give me some relief, which it does and works. Doesn't mean I won't take any opiates again 'cause they have a real medicinal value but no more syringe stuff. I threw all things that I bought related to that in the trash and when I make a decision like that, it's over. So, sorry for the long post but thanks and hope you guys somehow get out of what you're in, if that's what you want, 'cause I know a lot of you are hooked...Just know this, your kind words DID make a difference to me. Also, I didn't mean to offend anyone in this post in any way either. Just wanted to share my experience and thoughts. Later all. ;)

figured some people would chime in after my last post. Alot of first time shooters start the whole discipline will never do it again shpeel. I hope for you its true. If you are a pain patient and want to use just to get rid of your pain IV is not a col route anyhow. Thats crossing the liune into recreational big time sure it'll kill the pain too....and tolerance is a bitch IV'n

[Duckfeet]

Hey again all. Just want to thank you all for the info. and your concern and compassion, especially in the last posts. So I tried it and started small

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your kind words DID make a difference to me. Also, I didn't mean to offend anyone in this post in any way either. Just wanted to share my experience and thoughts. Later all. ;)

No offense on my part: u sound sane. you sound a lot like a friend of mine. He was big tough biker, and he got shot in a bar, and just was in chronic pain for a long time, and he finally talked me into giving him a *shot* of dilaudid, and it *did* cure the pain really good...but he also realized that this was a road he didn't need to go down any further, and he followed up on that....so I wish u every success. Our experiences are just that: experiences. they aren't rules or mandates, I'm sure you'll do fine, and I wish u good luck whichever path u take!

DF

[superman]

I gotta second the motion to use q-tips, it's my choice for sure. i use the all the cotton from the tip. with very well washed hands, i pull the cotton off, then roll it tight between my fingers. the syringe sucks it dry every time