Anybody tried methylone?

[Canis aureus]

Hello,

that was one which I tested together with opiates. It is methylenedioxy-methcathinone (MDMCAT): Interesting, very nice start, kicks in really nicely and is bit psychedelic entactogen and empathogen... quite expensive though, and not potent. Doses were higher than 250mgs... one really interesting thing was that there were no crash at all.

[suboxoneeater]

the price for a dose is probably 20 bucks. I'd rather have 2 enjoyable all day high from pods then a 4 hours stimulant feeling.

not cost effective.

[jacky]

I have not tried methylone, but I did try IAP, which was designed as an mdma analog with no crash/toxicity.
amazing stuff, stimulant relaxant, clear thinking, seeing pink and green blotches everywhere(like with thc and morphine). mild entactogen/empathogen.

the price was a little high, but the high lasted a long time, at least 9 hours. this compound debuted on the market and then dissapeared when the raids took place.

[chemboy7]

Yeah, it's like a less euphoric MDMA really. I made a thread about it when I was first investigating the material (dont think I ever updated it though) to see what other's reactions to it were. I'd look it up, but I'm lazy.

[OxyContinuously]

Methylone, interesting and easy to cook up if you know what you're doing. Follow the same route as if you were making MDMA (I know, I know--I am talking concept wise, not safrole, isosafrole, blah blah, formic acid, blah blah)

Fuck it, here's a hint: methylone is the benzylic ketone analog of, yup, you guessed it, MDMA. Another hint: try making methcathinone from pseudo or whatever (have fun finding appropriate strength potassium permanganate) and then make the methcathinone into methylene dioxy methcathinone which is what methylone is. If anyone seriously wants the real working synth that I personally worked out, PM me. But be serious: i am not going to entertain Joe Shmoe kitchen chemist--as a matter of fact kitchen chemists will get the recipe for methelene dioxy phenyl 2 propanone---haha have fun with that! If you know what's up you can make a variety of good shit from this intermediary; if you don't, you have a bunch of MDP2P--enjoy!! (just joking, just joking; about the sarcasm part not the MDP2P lol)

But sorry for the ramble. to answer the question, i have tried methylone, though not as high as 250mgs. I tried 120 mgs, and 150 mgs respectively. (the weight is 100 percent verified using an Ohaus "to the ten thousandth" digital scale) but i found it to be similar to MDMA only in terms of the come up. After that, it felt like a relaxed, stimulated feeling if that makes any sense. Mydriasis was noted and typical stimulant reactions like dry mouth, and a twenty minute period of "Fuck I wanna do something but what should I do?" was noted. It was a lot smoother than amphetamine, not as pushy as MDMA and a generally well rounded enjoyable chem. Not too much in terms of insight, but a pleasant introspective state of mind. How long did it last? About 4 hours or so. Good time; and I will probably repeat it once i can get/make some more.

Oxy

[chemboy7]

Found that thread I was talking about, and I was right I didn't update it. Like I said though, pretty much a mild MDMA substitute with little to no euphoria or window effects; nice mood booster and good for introspection though.

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=3197

[OxyContinuously]

Found that thread I was talking about, and I was right I didn't update it. Like I said though, pretty much a mild MDMA substitute with little to no euphoria or window effects; nice mood booster and good for introspection though.

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=3197


Yeah, bro I would have to totally agree with that

Oxy

[Sitar]

Oh god... IAP. That is NASTY stuff. It has an awful DXM-like dissociative effect with similar nausea and an unpleasant stimulation. And the stuff smells like a flea collar. I've had a little of that lying around for years now. Never liked it.

I've always thought that the cathinone stuff sounded good to try.

There was also something else out for a little while called 4-Methyl-Aminorex that sounded good.

[trip.more]

I really like IAP:D

methylone is enjoyable I know a few who like it better than MDMA.

[psychotiKK]

There was also something else out for a little while called 4-Methyl-Aminorex that sounded good.

I've heard good things about 4-Methyl-Aminorex. People call it "ice" like crystal Methamphetamine, which can be confusing. I've read it's effects are similar to Methamphetamine with a longer duration of action. 4-MA is formed of four stereoisomers, (±)-cis and (±)-trans. The (±)-cis isomers are the most recreational. Other than this, I don't know much about it. I've never known anyone who has seen or used it. I'm guessing it was obtainable as a RC on the internet before Operation: WebTryp. This sucks because it sounds like an interesting drug that I would love to try someday.

[Hammilton]

anyone ever make a MDA analogue of Cathinone?

[HeidiW]

Methylone, interesting and easy to cook up if you know what you're doing. Follow the same route as if you were making MDMA (I know, I know--I am talking concept wise, not safrole, isosafrole, blah blah, formic acid, blah blah)

Fuck it, here's a hint: methylone is the benzylic ketone analog of, yup, you guessed it, MDMA. Another hint: try making methcathinone from pseudo or whatever (have fun finding appropriate strength potassium permanganate) and then make the methcathinone into methylene dioxy methcathinone which is what methylone is. If anyone seriously wants the real working synth that I personally worked out, PM me. But be serious: i am not going to entertain Joe Shmoe kitchen chemist--as a matter of fact kitchen chemists will get the recipe for methelene dioxy phenyl 2 propanone---haha have fun with that! If you know what's up you can make a variety of good shit from this intermediary; if you don't, you have a bunch of MDP2P--enjoy!! (just joking, just joking; about the sarcasm part not the MDP2P lol)

But sorry for the ramble. to answer the question, i have tried methylone, though not as high as 250mgs. I tried 120 mgs, and 150 mgs respectively. (the weight is 100 percent verified using an Ohaus "to the ten thousandth" digital scale) but i found it to be similar to MDMA only in terms of the come up. After that, it felt like a relaxed, stimulated feeling if that makes any sense. Mydriasis was noted and typical stimulant reactions like dry mouth, and a twenty minute period of "Fuck I wanna do something but what should I do?" was noted. It was a lot smoother than amphetamine, not as pushy as MDMA and a generally well rounded enjoyable chem. Not too much in terms of insight, but a pleasant introspective state of mind. How long did it last? About 4 hours or so. Good time; and I will probably repeat it once i can get/make some more.

Oxy


Oxy hun, I'm still waitin on that phenyl-2-propanone:D

Where do you get this methylone stuff at???

[Dilaudid]

Hello Hammilton,

anyone ever make a MDA analogue of Cathinone?

Such annalog have been made, but it's not very stable (dimerization process, much less dimerization occur whith the mehyl group at the end of the side chain).

Hello psychotiKK,

I've heard good things about 4-Methyl-Aminorex. People call it "ice" like crystal Methamphetamine, which can be confusing. I've read it's effects are similar to Methamphetamine with a longer duration of action. 4-MA is formed of four stereoisomers, (±)-cis and (±)-trans. The (±)-cis isomers are the most recreational. Other than this, I don't know much about it. I've never known anyone who has seen or used it. I'm guessing it was obtainable as a RC on the internet before Operation: WebTryp. This sucks because it sounds like an interesting drug that I would love to try someday.

4-MA wassn't an "Web RC" but you can synthetise it via the cyanate route with benzaldehyde this process yeld the better stereoisomers (you can also use the substitued benzaldehyde like piperonal to yeld the 1,3-Methylenedioxy-4-methylaminorex ( 5-(1,3-benzodioxol-5-yl)-4-methyl-4,5-dihydro-1,3-oxazol-2-amine for the IUPAC fans) or p-fluorobenzaldehyde to yeld the potent serotonin relaser agent p-fluoro-4-Me-aminorex...)

Best regards Dilaudid.

[jacky]

I loved IAP myself...but I only had 150 milligrams of the stuff to try out.

absolutely no crash the next day from that stuff.
compared to mdma which made me feel like I was withdrawing from dxm/antideppressants for nearly a week after taking just 160 milligrams.

IAP was long lasting, and mild in effect, I also was seeing colors on the walls, pink and green, which I usually see when I am on high doses of morphine and cannabis.

never tried methylone.

the interesting thing about IAP is that a group of scientists came together on this one, to create a substance similiar to mdma that doesnt cause the serotonin depletion that mdma does the following days after consumption.
it has a limited effect, and is no replacement for mdma by any means. I think it has potential as an antideppressant type of compound.

[jonny-5]

damn i didnt realize half of us junkies were chemists too. haha the closest thing ive ever done chemistry-wise is watch the wonders of evaporation as my ketamine turned from liquid to powder.

[Dilaudid]

Hello Opiophiles,

IAP never really did the trick for me at least I havn't suffered of extracellular dopamin neurotoxicity.
MDMC (220mg) was introspective and begnin for me too I can only imagine a combo with 2CB...
4-MA was perfect for me especially at low dose for work or in large doses for epathogenic/entactogenic effects, p-fluoro-4-MA was nice too but very mild compared to the 4-MA (maybe less neurotoxic too remind me tramadol...).

Jacky must know these isoquinolines too: http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=8017

Best Regards Dilaudid.

[mrklean]

I have tryed Methylone at a variety of doses in many different sets and settings. It was pretty great the first time I tryed it and was kinda downhill from there. I would highly recommend plugging it. The comeup after plugging was pretty intense albeit a painfully short experience. It is IMO pretty comparable to MDMA after it's lost most of it's magic. I wouldn't bother with less than 200mgs. You used to be able to get it from atleast one German RC supplier but the one I knew of is out of business now. I do not currently know where it is available but I'm sure it is not too hard to find. Really, unless you find some kind of a special deal it is too expensive to be competition for any more readily available and cheaper alternatives. The only scenario I could envision purchasing more in is if I was in a serious relationship and the chick was interested in trying it. It is a supposedly unique chemical in the way it shines when used one on one with someone special to you. All this has been said many times but, I said it here. :p

There are currently a few other interesting mdma like compunds out there. But, none of them really looks that great to me. I personally don't really get much from mdma itself though. I'd rather have cid anyday.

[TappyTibbons]

I have tried methylone once, but its was much, much to small of a dose. I have a domestic supplier that carries it now, but i really have never purchased the substance. I don't really have to worry about customs, as it is shipped from inside the united states. The vendor I use, was once (actually just 5 months or so ago) open to the public, and he was just spread by word of mouth, but some cock head posted his contact information on a VERY public message board and refused to remove it. So he now only deals with past customers and SOMETIMES people who are refered by past customers. It was a tremendous leap of faith to order, as he only comunicates via encrypted anon email... but i had a personal friend who ordered and I had tasted the product... and it was very very real. He offers a wide variety of compounds (including pure xanax, valium and 2cb by the gram!) one of which is methylone. I'm considering ordering some of the methylone but I'm not sure if its a really good deal how do these prices compare to what others have paid in the past?

Methylone 1g $70
Methylone 2g $130
Methylone 5g $300
Methylone 10g $500

[trip.more]

^those are decent please don't give this guy out :(

[PT Dope Fiend]

Ah, Methylone. My dream drug. Probably the best drug I've ever experienced. Mild euphoria and intellectual clarity. I had several thousand dollars worth at one point - a shitload - and I was able to do it every day, day in and day out and still feel its effects. I also didn't feel like it was addictive. Indeed I was doing it daily, but when I ran out I ran out and that was that. No jones.