View Full Version : Tools to kick Coke?
kyuss
01-14-2007, 11:22 PM
This really
isn't about me.
I'm not a big fan of coke,
I'm all about Opiates.
A friend of mine e-mailed me
telling me he was hooked again.
He wants to know if I have any advice
about kicking the snowman.
He even claims to be going through
bodily cocaine withdrawals-
which is something I've never experienced.
He's having cold sweats and the shits
and says his habit costs $1000 a week.
You guys got any advice or tips
that I could pass along to him?
suboxoneeater
01-15-2007, 12:32 AM
Isolation, 2 weeks, magnesium/taurine, and hopefully a few handfulls of benzos and opiates...
He should have begun titrating his dosages... if he abuses it for a really long time he won't be able to experience recreational doses later on without extra side effects.
At least, that is how I feel about amphetamines (never did much coke besides couple hundred dollars worth of coca tea, and I hear drinking tea (even in large amounts) cannot compare to IV coke) - if you abuse stimulants when you try to use them for fun side effects manifest much sooner. For example, instead of getting paranoid/psychotic or have huge back pain problems with amphetamines after 3 days, I will experience this after 24 hours. etc etc.
This is some advice I give to my "heart" broken friends... The easiest way to forget about a girl is to get with another girl. :D
Curio
01-15-2007, 12:49 AM
This really
isn't about me.
I'm not a big fan of coke,
I'm all about Opiates.
A friend of mine e-mailed me
telling me he was hooked again.
He wants to know if I have any advice
about kicking the snowman.
He even claims to be going through
bodily cocaine withdrawals-
which is something I've never experienced.
He's having cold sweats and the shits
and says his habit costs $1000 a week.
You guys got any advice or tips
that I could pass along to him?
see if he can get the doctor to prescribe provigil or ritalin for ADHD...if he's having "withdrawal" from coke...could be he is so immune to the effects he can't do anything without a stimulant...ie he will just sleep all the time....if he can't get a script he could check out drugbuyers for international online pharm that carries a generic provigil, adrafinil, and/or ritalin and do a taper of sorts...prob next to impossible to "taper" from a drug like coke when it's his DOC at $1k/week....
red26
01-15-2007, 12:51 AM
This really
isn't about me.
I'm not a big fan of coke,
I'm all about Opiates.
A friend of mine e-mailed me
telling me he was hooked again.
He wants to know if I have any advice
about kicking the snowman.
He even claims to be going through
bodily cocaine withdrawals-
which is something I've never experienced.
He's having cold sweats and the shits
and says his habit costs $1000 a week.
You guys got any advice or tips
that I could pass along to him?
melatonin, omega vitamins, hydration. All of those "brain food" vitamins. Eggs are good for that too. The bottom of depression from a coke detox/W.D. is really bad, like devastating. As soon as he's thru the 4th day or the main pit of dispaire if you can get him out of the house and moving around. Slight exercise is essential to start producing those feel good chems that coke destroyed. It really is that important. I've been there so I'm speaking from my own experience, so this stuff might not help him, but dont tell him that. He needs to believe this stuff will work. Swimming is really good too. Not just for the exercise but the boyancy(sp) helps your joints an muscles to relax after being so tense binge after binge. Find a community rec center with a heated pool but tell him to stay out of the sauna or hot tub.
kyuss
01-15-2007, 12:54 AM
Great replies,guys
keep em coming-
I'll pass them on
suboxoneeater
01-15-2007, 01:04 AM
Sleep. Laying in bed for 72 hours.
I am working on a formulation for withdrawel symptoms and I am testing it on my friends right now. If you guys want to get a jump start on it it is Dodder Seed, Nettle root extract, and Avena Sativa.
These all work to give your body more working testosterone by deactivating SHBG.
Early results for drug withdrawel are promising. all anecdotal evidence, myself(baby pharm user), another person with a baby pharm habit and one with a baby pod habit. Overall the social withdrawel aspect when not high (Kind of stuck inside your head and not ready to verbalize with anyone) is 3 for 3 so far.
I honestly can't imagine kicking anything unless you are ready to ingest some other chemical. Choose cheap ones that have hosts of positive benefits....
Welbutrin is suposed to be good.
Chipper
01-15-2007, 01:45 AM
I mentioned this in a previous post -- Ritalin can be used
Time or H.
Sorry man,but I think at $1,000 a week it ain't going to be pleasant.Look on the bright side he can be sick with $1,000 a week H habit.Wish him luck from us.
Chris_Thantos
01-15-2007, 07:25 AM
From experience I can tell you that giving up coke isn’t easy but it was easier than giving up opiates ..(For me anyway.) When I decided to give up coke before moving to Pills I started with removing myself from places where coke was easy to get to. (Moved from Pittsburgh to Columbus for 6 months) Change my cell number and deleted all bad numbers from from phone. Once I got to Columbus I started working out and taking vitamins and supplements. 40 Minutes of cardio in the morning and two hours of lifting at night. After a week of a steady workout program I was more interested in going to the gym than doing a line not to mention I was too damn tired to look for coke in a new city.
The workout program itself may have had less to do with my quitting than the lack of availability but I can’t say it didn’t help.
kyuss
01-15-2007, 12:47 PM
Heres what
I told him..
kicking coke
try these methods
get the doctor to prescribe provigil or ritalin for ADHD
If you can't get a script check out drugbuyers.com
for international online pharm
that carries a generic provigil, adrafinil, and/or ritalin.
go buy melatonin,Welbutrin, and omega vitamins
Stay hydrated!!
Try to exercise(swimming is good)
Good luck bro!
Chemical_Boy
01-15-2007, 12:59 PM
Trazadone has been prescribed to recovering cocaine users. I am not sure if it is to help tone down the cravings and coke related depression or something else. I have only ever used it for sleep, but in the prescription guide that I have it says that one of the approved uses is "cocaine withdrawal".
Good luck to your buddy. Coke's a bitch.
HistoryofMadness
01-15-2007, 02:10 PM
getting ritalin to kick coke is like getting OC to kick heroin.
bupropion (wellbutrin or zyban - the latter is to stop smoking so its usually covered by insurance) is great, chocolate can reduce cravings.
believe it or not and short and low mg run of bupe is good. 2mg for a few days then down.
also its good to not drink alkihawl.
if you can't get bupe salvia divinorum can help in low doses but don't fry his brain with it.
kyuss
01-15-2007, 02:23 PM
Trazadone has been prescribed to recovering cocaine users. I am not sure if it is to help tone down the cravings and coke related depression or something else. I have only ever used it for sleep, but in the prescription guide that I have it says that one of the approved uses is "cocaine withdrawal".
Good luck to your buddy. Coke's a bitch.
I'll suggest that
getting ritalin to kick coke is like getting OC to kick heroin.
bupropion (wellbutrin or zyban - the latter is to stop smoking so its usually covered by insurance) is great, chocolate can reduce cravings.
believe it or not and short and low mg run of bupe is good. 2mg for a few days then down.
also its good to not drink alkihawl.
if you can't get bupe salvia divinorum can help in low doses but don't fry his brain with it.
I'll mention bupe
already mentioned Welbutrin.
I wouldn't recommend salvia divinorum
to anyone-
that shit scares the fuck
outta me
and he's not a stoner
HistoryofMadness
01-15-2007, 02:37 PM
I wouldn't recommend salvia divinorum
to anyone-
that shit scares the fuck
outta me
and he's not a stoner
it can be used in small doses as a kappa receptor agonist without being psychedelic.
i should have been specific - not smoking it, but making a tea or alcohol tincture with it. low and regular doses don't get you tripping they just affect your mood. especially if combined with danshen and some good potentiators.
robojunkie
01-15-2007, 09:59 PM
Several of the detoxes I've been in, if they accepted coke only users, would give them bromocryptine for like 3 or 4 days. I believe it has some sort of action on dopamine transport or some other dopamine related action. I never had this, I was always there for the H but some of the coke guys I met seemed to think it helped. Not sure how common this is though or where you could order it other than getting a script.
suboxoneeater
01-16-2007, 08:46 PM
Haven't heard anything about bromocriptine helping with coke withdrawal, I know a few sources. PM me if you like.
(Personally I dislike D2/D1 - hel - any dopamine modifiers. I take selegiline every few weeks for MAO-B inhibition though.)
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