morphine syrup?

[bandido]

how can you get the morph out of that syrup that has 15mg per ml, the shit you eat with a t spoon???

[jacky]

general alkaloidal extraction using base and acidic baths and solvent washes.............perhaps freezing the syrup? water and a small amount of hydrochloric acid?

[SomniGod]

Man, why extract...syrup is what we're all about here in the Dirty South. Get you 4 oz's of yella (Tussionex) ....take 2 oz's immediately, then mix the other 2 oz's with a 20 oz Sprite. Sip on for the next 2-3 hours... you will be LEANIN, bro! Tastes so damn good! Trying to extract without chems, equpi, and knowledge is worthless... you'll lose that which motivates u! Just start s-s-s-sip-sippin' on some sizzzzurp!!!

~S~

[fiiendin]

im from da dirty dird but i only pop lories (10 mg vicodins) because it is a much better deal than syrup...which goes for like $20/g or oz or something like that. W/e it is it's expensive as fuck. You can get much higher off lortabs, which I can get for $2 to $3 bucks. Sometimes less. Plus codeine sucks compared to hydrocodone.
:D

[kramorph]

Why dont ya just shoot it.I used to when i was doing my pharmacy training. A cancer patient would die and there spouse would return the unused portion(often nearly full bottle) and the responsible pharmacist pours it down the drain.I used to pocket it and iv it when i got home. It was better than any H i have scored here,syd.melb and uk.Wish i could get some more.I used to have 10ml of 10mg/ml sol, and i was off for hours But nearly od'd the first time.Only prob is using a huge 10 or 20ml syringe though.:p

[SomniGod]

WHAT?!?! You REALLY did this?

"You're crazy man! I like you, but you're crazy!"


I thought that like methadone, syrup has additives that would in NO way be condusive to IV. I'd love to hear about the pharmacalogical and/or detremental effects of bangin syrup.



~S~

Why dont ya just shoot it.I used to when i was doing my pharmacy training. A cancer patient would die and there spouse would return the unused portion(often nearly full bottle) and the responsible pharmacist pours it down the drain.I used to pocket it and iv it when i got home. It was better than any H i have scored here,syd.melb and uk.Wish i could get some more.I used to have 10ml of 10mg/ml sol, and i was off for hours But nearly od'd the first time.Only prob is using a huge 10 or 20ml syringe though.:p

[HeidiW]

I've banged syrup. The 1st time I did I shot a 1cc syringe full. It hit me hard, made run outside and puke. This hit me harder than the 1st shot of heroin I did. Just do it at your own risk.
ANYTHING pharmaceutical is better than street dope, at least that's been my experience.

[kramorph]

I guess it depends on what else is in it and whether it is BP,USP, EP etc.The stuff I used to get was pretty clean, just 10mg morph/ml some sweetner, flavour and small amt of preservative.Cant be no worse than the shit ya find in H scored from some filthy dealer on some filthy steet corner.And the methadone syrup(at least what we get here) is also fine to shoot, I shoot mine nearly everyday, and the alcohol in it gives an extra buzz.But then I dont drink alcohol anymore. Oh yeah one more thing, I'm not crazy, at least I dont think so.Also they chucked me out of a mental hospital a few years back coz I wasnt crazy, I was just homeless.Took em a week to work it out though, giving me the time to get new digs.

[SomniGod]

Wow.. I have a new mission...find some sizzurp!



~S~

[rachamim18]

First, thanks to Jacky for pointing me towards this interesting site. Now, just as he pointed me here, I would have ask anyone wanting a tried and true method for said extraction to hit up the search function at Bluelight since I posted one there some time ago.


In the interest of seeming helpful though, I will take the time today or tomorrow to post it here as well. It is exceedingly simple.

[rachamim18]

As luck would have it, I have the time to post it...


You will need a gallon of distilled water, an amount of non-polar solvent in twice the amount of your morphine syrup, a pH meter, seperating funnel, a very small amount of hydrochloric acid,and a tiny amount of sodium hydroxide in a 10% formulation. All these things are relatively inexpensive and easy to obtain.


Now, the "recipe":I] Take your syrup and combine it with an equal amount of the distilled water.

II] DROPWISE, add your 10% sodium hydroxide until the pH hits 11.5 .

III] Add your non-polar solvent [DCM works fine] in an amount equal to your COMBINED distilled water and syrup and combination.

IV] Add it all to your seperatory funnel and agitate moderately for 5 minutes.

V] Let stand until it separates into distinct layers.

VI] Remove the water layer [the top layer which will be lighter in color, etc.].

VII] Add an amount of distilled water equal to the removed water layer.

VIII] Agitate for 5 minutes, moderately.

IX] Let stand until it separates, as before in Step V.

X] Repeat Step VI again.

XI] Repeat Steps IV, V, VI, VII, and so on another 3 times

XII] Now add an amount of distilled water equal to the amount of non-polar solvent used.

XIII] Again, let stand to separate.

XIV] Add hydrochloric acid DROPWISE until you hit a pH of 9.1 .

XV] Let is stand to separate.

XVI] Evaporate to get to the goodies, morphine hcl.



Notes: You want to be sure to repeat the cumbersome agitate, let stand, separate" steps above becuase the if you do not remove all your sodium hydroxide it will react in a bd way [understaement] with your hydrochloric acid].

If you are just satisfied with a liquid morphine freebase you can simply stop after Step XI. If you follow through, and fully evaporate, you will have a pretty nice morphine hcl. Good luck.

[rachamim18]

I hate to be a stick in the mud but post#8 says it's "fine to shoot [sic] methadodne syrup." I would agree, if you want to get 0 result and clog up your veins to boot. Listen, methadone syrup is an oral formulation. Forget about its exceedingly high oral bioavailability, it is loaded with specific additives to prevent injection. Of course you CAN inject it but doing so will not offer any effect psychoactive;y and the additives will clog your veins, as intended.


Why not take it as directed? Its super bio-availability, when taken as directed, ensures that you will get your money's worth. the only way to gain any benefit from injection, you have to use the injectable ampoules which are usally unobtainable in the US. Now, if you are in the UK, you have a fair chance of netting some...and then by all means, enjoy.


Oh...just so this doesn't turn into some pissing contest, I have just detoxed off of methadone after almost 11 years. My dose was 190 and I am offering more than "book knowledge."

[kramorph]

I shoot it coz that way it gives me an opiate rush, same reason I and many others shoot H. And also coz I can and I do things my way.If they gave me 'done specifically for injection, I would probably drink it.Drinking the shit is no where near as good as shooting it.I would extract it if I had the time and patience, but I dont recommend anyone else does it though.It is my body and I have done alot worse than shoot me 'done. Thought I would add that i managed to purchase(extract with great difficulty), a methadone amp whilst in uk on hols,(I think it was 100mg), I would honestly prefer your orange, aniseed, alcoholic "oral" methadone.And it doesnt "clog up ya veins", where do you get such nonsense.Why dont you look up the Australian methadone syrup as previously described, and see if you can find an ingredient in it that will clog up my veins. And then if you find such an ingredient, please explain. Admittedly it isnt great(compared to hq H), but it definitely is MUCH better than drinking it, for sure. Drinking it takes at least an hour before you begin to feel it etc etc.

[rachamim18]

There I go again...being a stick in the mud but I have to bring a few points to bear. With realtion to morphine class substances there is a so called "morphine rule" that is used to evaluate the abuse potential of all morphine class substances. There are 4 principles in this rule and methadone only has 3. Guess which one it lacks? The rule that applies to so called "euphoria" and its facet, the "rush." The substance has virtually no euphoria, even when injecatable ampoules are used. When injecting oral forumaltions, that is reduced to definite zero. This is one of the reasons that methadone is the chief constituient in the opioid substitution regimen and also why oral formuls are so favored over the others.


"Drinking it is nowhere as good as shooting it..." Perhaps pyschosomatically but even if that were true, you cannot beat the oral formulation's extremely high oral bio-availability that renders it completely senseless to concume it any other way.


"Where do I get such nonsense about the oral formulation clogging up a person's veins?" Easy, as I stated in my post, I not only research any susbtance I even remotely condier putting into my body as much as possible, I was on methadone maintenance [190 mgs.] for almost 11 years...I just detoxed. I will not get into "scare stories" about subjective experiences and so forth but let's just say that you would be doing your body a favor if you were to at least look into the subejct yourself and verify [or dispel] what I am claiming.

Diversion is a HUGE problem with opioid substitution therapy so the makers of oral methadone [be it orange, cherry, clear, or the more recent blue] forumalted an additive into it so that it will gel up and creat problems upon injection. This is only a problem for long term abusers and it is NOT a scare story. I have seen the prrof myself subjectively.


"Please expalin," why I would love to. As soon as time permits, I wll post on it in depth.


"It takes an hour when consumed orally." No, it takes effect in as little as 15 to 20 minutes with regualr users who have reached what is known as "optimum dosing." After as little as 2 weeks of regualr usage, the user will feel it in that little amount of time. For others the wait is just a tad bit longer, averaging 45 minutes.

[rachamim18]

Just a quick point, not in depth, the key ingedient that will cause this "gel," as well as the burning in your veins [and collapse after a short while] is the glucose syrup. Now, this can be removed but due to the talked aout poor bio-availability of injected methadone [in oral forumaltion], it is not a wise idea.


I did offer an in depth talk and will offer references and phramokineticks if anyone really careas. For now, I won't beat nyone in the head with this stuff unless they really want the in depth explanation, etc.

[ontario_opiophile]

I get a brand of methadone in Canada that isn't mixed with juice. It is plain, clear, like water and is not sweetened. I believe it's suitable for injection. The company that makes it is Pharmascience. It's an oral formulation but it seems to be very plain and unadulterated, but I could be wrong. My methadone isn't the same crap they give junkies. Junkies get this horrible crap mixed with orange juice. I've seen red methadone here too. It's not like the stuff I get. This stuff seems to be really clean and it's used for pain due to it's superiority to the other crappy brands. Or at least thats what my doctor says.

I know in the U.S they give the clear stuff to junkies too. It's just more common to get the shitty fruity or sugary syrup type. Methadone does have good oral-bioavailability but it's good in all routes of administration. It's excellent orally, rectally, IV, IM. I dont think it would be a waste to inject it. I've heard there is a huge rush from injecting methadone, it's just as good as morphine IV or so i've been told. It just doesnt last as long but still it's longer than anything else. All the knowledge is what i've read from reports and other pharmaceutical stuff. I may be wrong about some of this, because I dreamed it up with my dog Spike.

[rachamim18]

Hate to burst your bubble but the clear is given to junkies as well...at least in the States. It is not formulated for injection. It doesn't contain as mcuh glucose as the colored brands [araonge, cherry, and blue ] but still has it. Again, the main idea is to gain a psychoactive effect, in other words, to get high from it...right? Ergo, its extremely high oral bio-availability means that anyone who is injecting it is wasting it. It has no "rush" to speak of [in oral formulation] and no other advantages. In fact, in most subjective cases, it is much shorter in duration. Why waste it?

[HeidiW]

I shot methadone syrup for over a year and my veins never got clogged. I always got high as hell doing it this way.

[rachamim18]

Sigh....As much as I wish you were right...you are not. what is "high" to you? Nodding? most users of opiates or opioids seek "euphoria." Methadone is unable to produce this. I think i posted on the "Morphine Rule" here but wiull have to check. If anyone cares, I will explain why it is chemicallytt impossible to gain euphoria from it. Heaven knows I wish it were not so. I was on it for well over a decade ssking that relief . It will brighten your mood for 20 minutes or so [orally] because psychosomatically you realise that the gorilla is fed, etc. You can feel the medicine course through yourt GI tract...it is a sense of security.

As for your veins. You are lucky. Do not EVER take just my word for it though. Please do the relevant research and see what you find.

[kramorph]

I agree about methadone not being nearly as euphoric as other opiates I have used.And as I have mentioned before, I have 20years experience, I wont go into all the details again. But when I cant afford H, I will shoot my methadone, no its not quite as good, but better tjhan oral.Despite what your research says.That is the problem of most health profs, they have only read books, in reality we are all very different and each feel varying subjective effects. If someone says they feel euphoria from their 'done(whether iv or oral), then they do. Euphoria is a subjective idea, therefore unable to be accurately measured and any good scientist would understand this.

[rachamim18]

Kramorph: Except that the researchers in this case or talking about physiology and pharmokineticks. These two subjects do not have any use for subjective posturing, etc. Both rely on set paremeters.

In this case, oral methaodne has an incredibly high [oral] bio-availability. This is a physiological fact. Oral is formulated to be absorbed over a course of time. It has built in safeguards meant to discourage tampering or diversion. I will offer a little subjective reasoning though in hopes of making a point. I live, and have attended methadone clinics in the South Bronx. Needless to say, this area has one of the highest per capita rates of heroin addiction [almost all of it i.v.] in the world. You literally cannot walk 20 blocks in any direction without encountering a methadone clinic. With all these opiate/opioid fans. who poo poo anything but i.v. as a form of administration, why do [practically as has been my subjective experience] all of them refuse to inject thier methadone? Because, as almost any methadone patient will tell you, orally it is much more effective.

[blahblahblah]

I find Roxanol [Mophine 20mg/mL] a decent rush, it is a little syrupy. The best way I find to use it is to empty a desired amount into a Visine Bottle. The tip of the Visine fits perfectly in the back of the needle so you just fill it up to the back. The syrup can be a bitch to shoot some times, but I find if you keep jacking off the syringe. Shooting in a few units, pulling fresh blood in, shoot, etc. When the blood melds with the morphine it makes is much easier to inject. More-so that dilluting a shot with water.

Sticky fingers... thou

[exitwound]

I thought Roxanol was oxycodone? (e.g. Roxicodone is oxycodone tablets with no APAP, etc)

[jab]

Rachamim, I don't feel like arguing with you, but you are not completely correct. If you search around you'll find that many people do inject methadone, and it does indeed have a rush. I don't feel like spending all day searching for you, but I'll add a recent discussion from ADH for you to look at.

http://tinyurl.com/8qdk4

There is more than one type of methadone. Yes, it does have a high bioavailability orally, but it still works just fine IV.

[kramorph]

Sorry Rachamim18, but you are FULL OF SHIT.

[phaedros]

Ty Lol.....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Mokelly]

Kramorph: Except that the researchers in this case or talking about physiology and pharmokineticks. These two subjects do not have any use for subjective posturing, etc. Both rely on set paremeters.

In this case, oral methaodne has an incredibly high [oral] bio-availability. This is a physiological fact. Oral is formulated to be absorbed over a course of time. It has built in safeguards meant to discourage tampering or diversion. I will offer a little subjective reasoning though in hopes of making a point. I live, and have attended methadone clinics in the South Bronx. Needless to say, this area has one of the highest per capita rates of heroin addiction [almost all of it i.v.] in the world. You literally cannot walk 20 blocks in any direction without encountering a methadone clinic. With all these opiate/opioid fans. who poo poo anything but i.v. as a form of administration, why do [practically as has been my subjective experience] all of them refuse to inject thier methadone? Because, as almost any methadone patient will tell you, orally it is much more effective.


Why are you talking about methadone syrup when you titled this thread "Morphine Syrup"? I think that this thread should be moved.

[Mokelly]

I thought Roxanol was oxycodone? (e.g. Roxicodone is oxycodone tablets with no APAP, etc)

Roxanol is Morphine Sulphate (immidiate release) CONCENTRATED Oral Solution 100mg per 5mL. .


Oxydose is the liquid oxycodone by Roxane.


I know those names that Roxane puts out can be a bit confusing. I hope I cleared some things up for you EW.


And just to let you know I absolutely in no way was being sarcastic.


Peace,
Morgan

[exitwound]

I guess I was thrown off because "Roxicodone" is straight up Oxycodone without APAP in a small tablet form, usually a small circular white or pink scored tablet about 4-5mm in diameter. They are quite small but they pack a real punch....anywhere from 5mg to 30mg each.

Roxicet is the same, I believe, but it's with APAP -- basically another name for Percocet.

So, Roxanol....starting with the "Rox" prefix....made me assume it was an Oxy med.

[D Phoria]

"Rox" is short for Roxane Pharmaceuticals. I'd love to work in the shipping department there. The make lots of different drugs, tons of branded painkillers.

[bandido]

you say to hit the syrip the way it is with all that aweetner n shit in it?? cum on??