toke codeine..?

[shinobi]

i've heard mixed reports on the sucess of smokeing home bake codeine. Just wonderd if anyone here has any decent info on it (like has anyone tried it and what were the results). Im aware that the water needs removing, done that, that was easy. Next question, does it actualy work, some say yes, some say no. How wastefull is it. Lastly, what health risks are associated. I know about pill binders / emulsifyers depositing in the lungs using IV but is this the same for smoking...i dont realy care about the last one, the pill binders will sit nicely on top off the nicoteen tar i spect, health isnt my biggest concern so much as getting off.

Also, anyone had much sucess snorting home bake codeine and same questions again.

thanks in advance

_n0bi

[Nuke]

Codeine is very heat-labile, smoking it is a bloody waste. It's incredibly effective taken orally it just may take a like longer but still.

[Ogre]

You can smoke it. But...most of the people I know who have smoked it have ALOT, more then they need really and smoked some just because they wanted a high like IVing but IVing that is the biggest no no ever...bad idea # 1.......smoking it just isn't worth it unless you have a good amount of it is of pretty damn good strength. If you have enough to think about smoking it I'd say take it my mouth. It's hard to get high off of it sometimes (after H, codeine does very little for me) but it can keep you feeling semi ok for alittle.

[Paregoric Kid]

from everything I've heard before says that codeine doesn't work until it is metabolized in the liver

[Ogre]

really? Thats interesting. I have seen people smoke it before, not that they really got anything off of it. I thought it was because it was just so weak. Your body had to convent H to morph to use it. I read somewhere that for a few hours after you take H you have a certain acid in your system that clues people in that you've taken H. That after you've taken H that acid, morph and codeine show up in your system from the H. But after a few hours only morph and codeine show up. It takes awhile for it too reach your liver doesn't it? I thought that if it showed up right after your body converted the H into codeine and morph that it had work as soon as it passed the blood brain membrane. Of course I'm just thinking off the top of my head right. Anybody know?

[jacky]

codeine is a natural constituent of opium, the compound must be metabolized into morphine to be felt. Some people lack sufficient enzyme p450 production to convert codeine to morphine, in this case the drug either isnt felt, or causes allergic reactions. A good article on the subject is Jonathan Otts 2nd interview in the Entheogen Review. Jonathan Ott lives in Mexico, and writes books on entheogenic drugs, rare and otherwise...he also prefers codeine as a daily maintenance drug, and is a pioneer of sorts in working with some tolerance moderators, he also speaks about opiates as smart drugs.
I have no idea if codeine is active via pyrolation/inhalation.

[Paregoric Kid]

heroin turns back into morphine within minutes of being in the body

[shinobi]

so smoking it is proly a waste of time. Shame, always enjoyed smoking my junk. Will proly try snorting it when this next batch is dried out. Anywho, thanks to everyone who responded, was kind of curiouse and i dont have the cash to waste experimenting at the moment. But ye, drinking the stuff sux, tastes like shit, not anough sugar in the world to make that shit taste good, then again beggers cant be choosers. Thanks people.

[Paregoric Kid]

you really should just swallow it to get the most out of it.

[shinobi]

over the years ive drank; paint, paint stripper, bleach, petrol, anti-freeze and more oversized OD'S than i can count so my digestive system isnt exactly the best avalable. One time in hospital i was force fed though, was wondering if its possable to inserrt a feeding tube down my own throte and do it that way, gona post in the general area and see if anyone knows, it would open up a world of possabilitys that are previously unexplored. Insert your own evil grin here.

[katomic]

LOL thanks for your honisty. howed you get the Aussie Gov to have you?no offence
i have friends that have qualifications and still cant get in! you quite lucky to get in.
Whats your plan with the tube,dare i ask?

[shinobi]

well i passed a medical 2 years before the visa was granted and *forgot* to mention all the stuff in between the medical and the visa (didnt declair it or whatever). I also came here as a minor (17 yrs old @ time) under the visa of my parents. We kinda dont get on but i was on one of those "no more meth for me" things. The college i was in forced me onto a drug coucelling thing that they ran, that or get thrown out, i eventualy dropped out. By that point it seemed like a good idea, was fast running out of friends, many of whom died or just dissapeard, everything had already fallen appart, i was paying UK STERLINg 5 per week to sleep in a friends basment and story short, was increadably fucked up. Im one of those "hide from reality people" not a "get high for fun" types. Eather way, i cleaned up, didnt want to at first but then the woman i was seeing asked me to make a list of people i knew who were dead. After a bit of foning around i had a list of over 20 people i had known over some period who were eather dead of proly dead (by proly dead i mean like this one person, called ruth, went on the local news saying she had a brain tumor and was looking for her biological mom, she was addopted. no one knew if she was actualy dieing, if it was a scam to get free gov't housing or if she was staging it all to escape her abbusive husband. to this day i still get mixed reports about what happend and that was like years ago). At that point i kind of realised that something had to change, and i guess it did, for a while.

We also had eather a very sympathetic person or a very stupid person look over our application. See there were huage issues over custody (which ended in a high court case) with my little brother. His dad didnt want him to leave the country. His dad was an abusive wanker though who used to smack the family around. Eather way, we were never asked to provide any proof of custody (although we did get it).

Also, going on the state of my mental and physical health i shouldent have been let in at all. I guess i was frikin lucky. I mean like, people have been turned down coz their kids are dyslexic, im dyslexic and got two other learning dissoders on top of that. (no im not a fucking retard and can pass myself off as "normal" easily).

So to be honest, i have no fucking clue how i was granted a visa, but i was, which is kool. (helped that i had my criminal record cleard at 16 and was able to keep it clean ever since, touch wood).

As for the feeding tube, imagine all the weird and wonderfull stuff you could pump into your stomach if you could by-pass your mouth...could be a fun experiment.

Anyway, writing long posts is boaring.

[Juicy fruit]

ITs ya liver that ya need to bypass, its what destroy "toxin", but also converts codeine to morphine.THat is why bupe is meant for sublingual dosage to avoid"1st pass metabolism by the liver.

[SomniGod]

It sounds gross and fukked up, but try a codeine suppository... if you can't swallow it, IV it, Im it or snort it...... then stick it up ya ass! Cancer patients get suppositories for when they are sick and can't hold the pills down in their tummies. It's not like you're queer cuz you wanna get high. Just a thought. - but I wouldn't tell anyone I knew that I had done it...;)


~S~



over the years ive drank; paint, paint stripper, bleach, petrol, anti-freeze and more oversized OD'S than i can count so my digestive system isnt exactly the best avalable. One time in hospital i was force fed though, was wondering if its possable to inserrt a feeding tube down my own throte and do it that way, gona post in the general area and see if anyone knows, it would open up a world of possabilitys that are previously unexplored. Insert your own evil grin here.

[shinobi]

now there is an interesting thaught. Im OK for now though, got on panadine forte off the hospital. Also get seriquel (which is kinda fun when you take 5 at a time) so no need to brown pills right now, in a few months on the other hand, things may be different. Thanks for the info as for being queer, im actualy bi, only coz i slept with a bloke when wasted off my face, in return he knocked $100 off my nights debt, so it went down to $200 for the night anyway, i got a girl friend so i couldent care less about sexuality.

cherrs for the info.

shinobi walks off wasted looking for a plunger.

[shoxy]

man snort the shit....anyone notice how after a long time of snorting painpills they start to taste like sugar? im not being funny and im sure this sounds stupid...but its like sugar...or maybe being really really hooked on the shit makes your mind think silly things....i dunno, 2 days clean now....and ive got a hell of a sweet tooth

[SomniGod]

man snort the shit....anyone notice how after a long time of snorting painpills they start to taste like sugar? im not being funny and im sure this sounds stupid...but its like sugar...or maybe being really really hooked on the shit makes your mind think silly things....i dunno, 2 days clean now....and ive got a hell of a sweet tooth



Congrats on the clean time.... I managed 3 weeks... until someone turned me on to a fenny patch!... now I'm back with my gorilla... damn bitch never leaves me alone.

oh well....


~S~

[ontario_opiophile]

Haha. I once slept with a dog named Lucky :D

[satlelitejive]

Once, when I was in the hospital they gave me a supository that was made up of 15mg of opium and 15mg belladonna. They were giving me morphine I.V. everytime I complained of pain, but they couldn't knock me out (I didn't mention the amounts I take recreationally though!). After the supository I was out within minutes and when I woke I was hallucinating; which I suspect is a result of the belladonna. Anyways! there are a few things that you have to watch for when admin. things rectally, but I find that route supplies a better buzz (less of a puky feeling). Just out of curiousity has anyone ever heard of this supository before? I hear its something that physicians will admin. before surgery.

[chemboy7]

Once, when I was in the hospital they gave me a supository that was made up of 15mg of opium and 15mg belladonna. They were giving me morphine I.V. everytime I complained of pain, but they couldn't knock me out (I didn't mention the amounts I take recreationally though!). After the supository I was out within minutes and when I woke I was hallucinating; which I suspect is a result of the belladonna. Anyways! there are a few things that you have to watch for when admin. things rectally, but I find that route supplies a better buzz (less of a puky feeling). Just out of curiousity has anyone ever heard of this supository before? I hear its something that physicians will admin. before surgery.

Yes, they still have Opium suppositories... they are called B & O suppostitories. I believe that the Belladonna alkaloids are added to prevent people from using them recreationally.