Narconon and Scientology

[bi11i]

I never knew; a fellow board member forwarded on a few links to me from Wikipedia that outline the program. Super interesting - anyone involved or have past involvement? I always thought it was another 12-step thing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narconon
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/


Scientology's Narconon purports to deliver a rehabilitation program for drug abusers in several dozen treatment centers worldwide, chiefly in the United States and western Europe. Although it is often confused with Narcotics Anonymous (NA), which is sometimes inaccurately abbreviated as "Narcanon", Narconon is not a twelve-step program and has no relationship with NA. (See http://www.narcanon.net/ for Narcotics Anonymous information.)

[Paregoric Kid]

anything started by L. Ron Hubbard doesn't pass the baloney detection kit lol
www.narconon-exposed.org (http://www.narconon-exposed.org)

Burroughs was interested in them for a little but realized it was a bullshit organization out for money, I cite:
Burroughs on Scientology (LA Free Press 6/3/1970)
William Burroughs: Open Letter to Mr. Garden Mustain (East Village Other 7/7/1970)
William Burroughs on "Inside Scientology" by Robert Kauffman (Rolling Stone 9/11/1972)

[shinobi]

scientology can go fuck itself up the ass for all i care (strong words, sorry if i offended anyone). Dont have a problem with people folowing it (as long as they dont do a "tom cruize" and push it in peoples faces) but i think its nothing more than a totaly bogus, bull shit excuse for a religion, they want your money and your allegance and dont offer anything valuable in return.

[Blake]

Yeah, narcanon is scientology alien bullshit that tries to recruit people when they are vulnerable. It is just a money making scheme trying to capitalize on 12 step programs.

The program that is affiliated with Narcotics Anonymous is Nar-Anon.....no c add a hyphen....it is a 12 step based program that is open and free to anyone that is a friend or family member of an addict. It is kinda like Al-Anon and AA.

[Opiyum]

Has anybody heard this shit involving South Park, Scientology, Isaac Hayes and Tom Cruise. That's a funny sentence.


This episode sparked controversy when and after it was aired. In fact, the episode's credits list each contributor's name as "John Smith" or "Jane Smith" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonym), a reference to the possibility of lawsuits from the Church of Scientology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_the_legal_system). This episode was partially inspired when the show's creators, Matt Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Stone) and Trey Parker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trey_Parker) heard from their good friend Penn Jillette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_Jillette) that he was originally planning to do an episode of Bullshit! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit%21) based on Scientology, but it was scrapped by Showtime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showtime) to avoid the possibility of legal action from the church itself.
Chef (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_%28South_Park_character%29) was notably absent from the episode, perhaps because Isaac Hayes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Hayes) (who provided Chef's voice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_actor)) is a Scientologist. Hayes, who had recently suffered a minor stroke, would later leave the show altogether citing South Park's "religious intolerance" as a main factor. There is speculation that Scientology leaders pressured Hayes to quit. In an interview for The A.V. Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_A.V._Club) on January 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_4), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), Hayes was asked about the episode. Hayes said that he told Parker and Stone, "Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that shit, you know? But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses, and understand what we do. [Laughs]" Parker and Stone's reasoning for not using Chef was because Hayes was unavailable at the time (he wasn't in many of the episodes in the second half of the season), by some reports due to poor health. However, Parker and Stone did clear this episode with Hayes, according to an interview with Parker.
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This episode was not shown on the UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) channel Paramount Comedy 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_Comedy_1) or MTV UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_UK) as it is believed that Tom Cruise has threatened to sue.This threat was alluded to in the episode itself when Cruise shouted at Stan "I'll sue you in England!" England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_and_Wales) has slander and libel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander_and_libel) laws which are significantly more plaintiff-friendly than those in the United States.
On March 13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_13), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), Hayes announced that he was quitting the show because of the series's treatment of religion, though he didn't specifically mention Scientology in his statement.[5] (http://www.scientomogy.com/isaac_hayes_quites_south_park.php) That same day, Stone responded to Hayes' departure in an interview with The Associated Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Associated_Press) saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he's cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian)...He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and, to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin." However, recent reports say that Hayes was in no condition to stay, because of a stroke he suffered in January (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html). According to a Fox News article, "Isaac Hayes is no quitter ," Hayes did not in fact leave the show out of protest, instead suffering a minor stroke before production of the tenth season began. The article points to Hayes's agent Christina Kimball, herself a devout Scientologist, as the source of the statements that Hayes had quit South Park.

Fuckin' Agents

[antony]

"I have to say, I've always found the 'if it makes me feel better, it's okay' rationale a little suspect. I think it's appalling that people have to live a life of drug addiction when I have personally helped people get off drugs." -Tom Cruise, May GQ

GET FUCKED, LIAR

but to his credit, that heffer from "Cheers" stopped using coke through scientology, but she was FUCKING MINT when she was thin.

[Dr.Poop]

It says part of the detox/rehab procedure calls for "lengthy sessions in a sauna". I'm down.

[antony]

It says part of the detox/rehab procedure calls for "lengthy sessions in a sauna". I'm down.
probably after the 5k run.

[chemboy7]

probably after the 5k run.

And in the mist of withdrawl.

[Opiyum]

Isaac Hayes Is No Quitter (http://forum.opiophile.org/)
I guess people missed this on Monday, so I will again state Isaac Hayes’ case. He had a minor stroke in January and is now at home for rehab and recuperation.
As close friends told me over the weekend, he did not resign from "South Park (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188720,00.html#)" or issue any kind of press release to that effect. Although headlines like "Hayes Gives the Shaft to 'South Park'" are funny, they are inaccurate.
Here’s the problem: Hayes is no longer managed by Bruce Garfield at Avenue Management. All of the communication from him comes through a woman named Christina "Kumi" Kimball, a fashion executive for designer Craig Taylor, another Scientologist.
Kimball herself is a devoted member of the Church of Scientology. She even maintains a Web site extolling its virtues. If any announcement was made about Hayes and "South Park," it came from her.
As I wrote on Monday: Hayes loves "South Park" and needs it for income. He has a new wife and a baby on the way.
Before the public and the media buy this whole brouhaha, I beseech everyone to take a step back and see what actually went on here. Many times, things are not as they seem. And that is definitely the case with this story.
The only good news in this story is that Isaac, according to friends, is doing very well. He’s attending to business and getting back on his feet. Hopefully, he’ll be dishing up Chef like a gourmet again in no time.






Wow Fox news got it to the T for once.

[bi11i]

I think Narconon is going to make a good Home page cover story here in the next week or so. 'Busted' has had the light for awhile - plus gotta do our part to put these falsities in the ground, where they belong....

[Opiyum]

I think Narconon is going to make a good Home page cover story here in the next week or so. 'Busted' has had the light for awhile - plus gotta do our part to put these falsities in the ground, where they belong....

Here's some info and links to help you if you decide to do what you say. Dont mean to step on anyone's toes just trying to help that's all. Plus I know a little bit about the subject.

links:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1896/achubbard.html
Explains Hubbards relationship with Aleister Crowley. Their meeting each other is in dispute, and could very well be a complete fabrication by Hubbard.

http://training.scientology.org/wis1_1.htm
Scientology...an introduction

http://www.ultimatescientology.org/img/w.gife of the Church believe:
That all men of whatever race, color or creed were created with equal rights;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices and their performance;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives;
That all men have inalienable rights to their sanity;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own defense;




http://www.scientology.org/pics/std/l-ron-hubbard/l-ron-hubbard04.jpg

In the 50's and 60's Hubbard used to promise that one could survive nuclear radiation if one took Dianazene, a mix of calcium and niacin named after his daughter Diana, and used Dianetics to run out ones "engrams" (periods of pain and unconsciousness), using an *E- Meter. With so many people worried about the possibility of nuclear war, the "duck and cover" routine being taught in schools at that time, Hubbard seized on this as it was a promise that no one would ever test - that by using Scientology and Dianetics one could survive a nuclear war.

* An E-meter provides a small does of electricity that is in a range that is below the level of sensation to the human body, but enough to cause physiological changes. The current is in a range that has been documented to induce the human body to release endorphins. We here know all about those. I dont know how true this E-meter thing is but people believe this shit...


I could expell more of this shit but its giving me a headache and seriously killing my buzz. Hopefully this will be of some help to you if you choose to expose Narconon whose roots are firmly planted in Scienfuckology.

[g0forit]

lol, i did a bit of researching myself after reading quite a few articles at http://www.xenu.net (operation clambake). i called 5 different churches in california and to my suprise got quite a different veiw on what scientology is from each person. all of them explained how most of your life can be controlled by simply following steps laid out by the all mighty dr. l.r. hubbard. as it was explained to me, it's a sort of manual that outlines how you should react to certain situations in life. much as you would read an owners manual if you weren't sure about something in your car. upon asking them about this whole xenu alien master thing i would be quickly made aware that no such thing exists. strange the way they are so terse about this subject...

you can really get a scientologist angry when you ask them about the 25 counts of false imprisonment, 14 counts of assualt, 18 counts of fraud, conspiracy to murder and child neglect against the establishment.



if interested in narc please read: http://www.xenu.net/archive/narconon/ berfore getting any ideas ;) there was even a reported death from their so called "practices".

[devilsdrug]

heh antony the heffer from cheers aint a heffer anymore shes the spokeswoman for the jenny crank diet

[Kallie]

heh antony the heffer from cheers aint a heffer anymore shes the spokeswoman for the jenny crank diet

I was going to add that too, DD. Though she's not anywhere near bikini-ready....:p

But, who am I to talk?!

[ZodiacKiller]

The only good news in this story is that Isaac, according to friends, is doing very well. He’s attending to business and getting back on his feet. Hopefully, he’ll be dishing up Chef like a gourmet again in no time.

Well, I highly doubt that we'll be seeing Chef back on South Park anytime soon.

They killed him off good a couple o' weeks back. If anyone saw the episode, they used samples of his voice from prior episodes strung together to manipulate the character into saying all kinds of randy, pedophilic, insane stuff...then had him tossed off a cliff and ripped to pieces by a bear and a mountain lion.

It was waaaay outta hand---and I was rolling on the floor in tears laughing.

This episode almost rivaled "A Woodland Critter Christmas" (hail satan!) as the most over the top episode of South Park yet (in my humble opinion as a South Park fan who's seen every episode).

[Opiyum]

Well, I highly doubt that we'll be seeing Chef back on South Park anytime soon.

They killed him off good a couple o' weeks back. If anyone saw the episode, they used samples of his voice from prior episodes strung together to manipulate the character into saying all kinds of randy, pedophilic, insane stuff...then had him tossed off a cliff and ripped to pieces by a bear and a mountain lion.

It was waaaay outta hand---and I was rolling on the floor in tears laughing.

This episode almost rivaled "A Woodland Critter Christmas" (hail satan!) as the most over the top episode of South Park yet (in my humble opinion as a South Park fan who's seen every episode).

THEY KILLED CHEF! THOSE BASTARDS!

I missed that one this season has been ridiculus. Oprahs "minge" and the cartoon wars were quality.