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BizzyBone
01-01-2007, 09:01 PM
I got a question on the dxm I got some pills cold pills its got in 1 capsule 325 mg's of apap , 15 mg of dex, and 5 mg of phenylephrine HCI ...The recommended dose is 2 capsules ..But would it be safe to take 4 or maybe 5...Im trying to see what the feel of dxm is all about..and maybe help wit my wd's

AWOL
01-01-2007, 09:10 PM
it's best to get the dxm only caps. You can get them at walgreens, or walmart, they are 15mg dxm hbr nothing else. Cost about $5 per 20. They're pretty fun, everyone will chime in and say DXM IS SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH but just ignore them and give it a try yourself. It's not for everyone and different ppl react differently but it's a lot of fun. Keep in mind that it takes 3 hours for the pills to start kicking in if they're a liquid gel. That's no exageration, 3 hours, then shit happens. So don't go re-dosing because you don't think they're working, takes a LONG time. The robitussin bottles look like this But most stores like walgreens have their own brand. You don't want to be taking anything other than pure DXM hydrobromide. The other stuff will do damage to ya, or make you puke. Just plain DXM. AND WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT SMOKE WEED WHILE ON DXM ... BAD !!! http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?id=prod399161&CATID=301460&skuid=sku399162&V=G&ec=frgl_618675 http://a1061.g.akamai.net/7/1061/5412/home/www.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/314877.jpg

BizzyBone
01-01-2007, 09:16 PM
So it would be useless to try what i was talking about

BizzyBone
01-01-2007, 09:24 PM
My main question is, is it really a synthetic opiate.......or does it make you trip out and see shit

Papa Verine
01-01-2007, 09:49 PM
My main question is, is it really a synthetic opiate.......or does it make you trip out and see shit

Bizzy!

dv was trying to tell you if you want to try DXM get a product that contains DXM only! There's no reason to take DXM with acetomenophen or anything else!

DXM is similar to PCP and Ketamine. It's a dissacociative. Go get some OTC cough suppresant that contains ONLY Dextromethorphan Hbr. It's not a synthetic opioid like methadone or Fentanyl. You WILL NOT feel opiate-like effects from it. You'll feel like you did some PCP but it's a little more recreational and manageable. It's very hard to explain to someone who never tried it or anything like it.

SuperJunky
01-01-2007, 10:25 PM
If your just going to take a small dose what you plan to do would be ok, I find small doses to be helpful w/ tolerance and it can make sleeping easier. I dont recomend taking large doses in this manner though, I know people that have survived it but its not smart. DXM is a mirror image of morphine, it fits on an opiate receptor about as well as a right hand into a left handed glove. I've done DXM thousands of times, hundreds upon hundreds of extractions from off brand dxm/gauf syrup. Never take w/ an ssri like prozac, an maoi or a tricylcic, so basically dont take if your on any scripted anti depressant or if youve partaken in ayahausca recently.


it's best to get the dxm only caps. You can get them at walgreens, or walmart, they are 15mg dxm hbr nothing else. Cost about $5 per 20. They're pretty fun, everyone will chime in and say DXM IS SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH but just ignore them and give it a try yourself. It's not for everyone and different ppl react differently but it's a lot of fun. Keep in mind that it takes 3 hours for the pills to start kicking in if they're a liquid gel. That's no exageration, 3 hours, then shit happens. So don't go re-dosing because you don't think they're working, takes a LONG time. The robitussin bottles look like this But most stores like walgreens have their own brand. You don't want to be taking anything other than pure DXM hydrobromide. The other stuff will do damage to ya, or make you puke. Just plain DXM. AND WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT SMOKE WEED WHILE ON DXM ... BAD !!!

I always found weed to be a necessity. Helped control the initial nausea. Caps do take forever to kick in, when they first came out I made this mistake and was really really fucked. Much stronger this way for some reason. I couldnt do anything the first time I took aprox 300mg via robbo caps, and I had a knack for driving around under the influence of 600-700 mgs extracted and concentrated into a single shot of raucnhy lemonade, but the caps, I couldnt even walk. Weird. NOTE: DO NOT DRIVE ON DISSASOCIATIVES UNLESS YOUR COMPLETLY INSANE AND WANT TO DIE.

robojunkie
01-01-2007, 10:54 PM
Yeah definitely don't f around with the mixtures, no reason to, especially with that fine product available at respected pharmacies everywhere posted above. Start low and see how it hits you first (like 150-200 mgs) as this stuff has wildly varying effects on different people. Some love it and get full of energy and get all kinds of insane dissociative effects, others turn into a pile of sludge, throw up and don't move for 12 hours. And if you're doing it for the dxm high don't fuck with the opes while robing as you will be surprised at the potentiation, at least until you drop.

Oh yeah to paraphrase someone somewhere from long ago...unless you got a magic molecule mirror dxm won't do shit as an opiate by itself. Right hand, left glove. (Although if you wind up liking dxm and going further with it you may figure out how to do this in the 4th dimension while robed giving levomethorphan (3-methoxy version of levorphanol), but forget once it wears off and something could be done about it...not really of course).

Oh yeah, cuttin open dv's gelcaps with a razor and draining the glycol/sorbitol/whatever (which obviously contains the dxm) shit and drinking with oj always worked best for me, also will come on quicker. And I concur with dv about pot...don't smoke it on robo, certainly at least not until you've done it a number of times and are experienced with it. Can't even describe the resulting insanity that will follow.

BizzyBone
01-01-2007, 10:55 PM
So what i read about the opiate is so so ...Varys wit diffrent peeps

AWOL
01-01-2007, 11:13 PM
I always found weed to be a necessity. Helped control the initial nausea.

Yeah with the initial nausea it would be ok, but if you take a bong hit while peaking on a 3rd plateu dose, holly shit man. If you don't have a sitter, expect to come to naked climbing your neighbors tree.

And if you're doing it for the dxm high don't fuck with the opes while robing as you will be surprised at the potentiation, at least until you drop.

Ain't that the truth. If you do like 600mg DXM, and take even 15mg hydro it's fuckin dangerous.

robojunkie
01-01-2007, 11:15 PM
So what i read about the opiate is so so ...Varys wit diffrent peepsThe dissociative effects (and their perception as enjoyable or mind numbing and disturbing) are what varies. It is not an opioid, at least as far as the mu receptor goes (dxm works on the NMDA receptor antagonistically blocking ion transfer, essentially isolates brain cells from communicating with one another to a certain degree). This doesn't vary in anyone whatsoever that I have ever seen or read about...

Unless you're that one lucky guy in a billion who somehow builds proteins with D-amino acids, L-sugars, etc. then it would work. Of course you'd starve to death as all the meat and candy bars you could eat would be useless. Obviously the last part is just silliness.

SuperJunky
01-01-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah with the initial nausea it would be ok, but if you take a bong hit while peaking on a 3rd plateu dose, holly shit man. If you don't have a sitter, expect to come to naked climbing your neighbors tree.

I never had a problem like this, but then again I was on DXM every other day and stoned everyday.



Ain't that the truth. If you do like 600mg DXM, and take even 15mg hydro it's fuckin dangerous.

I mixed dxm and pain pills a bunch ot times and never got that fucked up. My friends did but I didn't. Probably because I had more of a tolerance. Granted it potentiated opiates quit nicely but at high doses like that I could never feel the opies, I never even got overly sedated when I was using for the dxm high and opies were a second that day as oposed to when I was doing H and used DXM to make it better.

Also when I started doing DXM you could either cook it down w/ amonia, lighter fluid and some country time lemonade or you had to buy the expensive name brand shit and drink multiple bottles to get a good dose. Funny this is one thing that actually got easier w/ the robo cough gels. I guess people fucked up the extract to many times...

robojunkie
01-01-2007, 11:42 PM
I mixed dxm and pain pills a bunch ot times and never got that fucked up. My friends did but I didn't. Probably because I had more of a tolerance. Granted it potentiated opiates quit nicely but at high doses like that I could never feel the opies, I never even got overly sedated when I was using for the dxm high and opies were a second that day as oposed to when I was doing H and used DXM to make it better.
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Yeah the tolerance can definitely effect it and with me, as one of the few who really was into robo, it was a mix where 500-600 mgs dxm would kinda dull weak opes but at a certain point, especially with H there was this like exponential sudden potentiation with H. It's the "robo sludge" people that really get fucked. I've told this story before somewhere but me and my girl robed (~500 mgs) at like 6 or 7 pm and the next afternoon did more H (from the same bundle that was good but not death in a bag). I hit first and was right, then she hit and within 30 seconds flopped back in the chair and dropped. Immediate OD on shit she did previously with no effect like this. Lucky for me I was feeling good and still had a bit of the robo muscles and yanked her up over my head onto the floor and did the 911/rescue breathing shit (she lived). I emphasize this was not a nod out for a couple hours and slowly stop breathing, it was instant respiratory arrest. Barely even any blood pressure as I couldn't even find a pulse (though obviously her heart was not oxygen deprived yet). Freaked me the fuck out and couldn't have lived with that on my back.

AWOL
01-01-2007, 11:50 PM
Well I am even more so aware now that DXM affects everybody sooooo soooooo sooooooooooooo differently. I knew it before, but after reading what you guys have wrote it rings even more true now. I've done about as much DXM as you guys have, and all three of our counts are different from each other. It's no wonder so many people hate the stuff, must be awful for them. For me it was pure euphoria man. And almost any amount of any opiate on 600mg's of DXM would have OD'd me instantly.

SuperJunky
01-01-2007, 11:55 PM
Well I am even more so aware now that DXM affects everybody sooooo soooooo sooooooooooooo differently. I knew it before, but after reading what you guys have wrote it rings even more true now. I've done about as much DXM as you guys have, and all three of our counts are different from each other. It's no wonder so many people hate the stuff, must be awful for them. For me it was pure euphoria man.

I dont know about pure euphoria but it definatly has a very wide range of affects. Most people that liked it turned into junkies and those that didnt turned into chipers that almost die almost weekly. Not to say some of these people didnt dry out eventualy.

AWOL
01-02-2007, 12:11 AM
I dont know about pure euphoria but it definatly has a very wide range of affects. Most people that liked it turned into junkies and those that didnt turned into chipers that almost die almost weekly. Not to say some of these people didnt dry out eventualy.


I believe DXM acts as a dopamine reuptake inhibiter. Hence the euphoria. I would lay there with my eyes closed and listen to music just feelin like I was flying. Did you ever notice that right before you start tripping hard your nose opens up and you start breathing and you just take these really deep deep breaths, just feels like you're hangin there. I would always aim for a mid 3rd plateau dose. That's the other tricky part about dxm, changes so much from plateau to plateau

robojunkie
01-02-2007, 12:21 AM
Always referred to the dxm come on as the "robo hood", kinda like this invisible dimension just wrapping around my head. dv, Is that a robo hood on your unabomb avatar?

SuperJunky
01-02-2007, 12:26 AM
I've never gotten good affects directly from dopamine or dopamine drugs. (coke, pure dopamine etc) I always aimed for mid 2nd to high third. The 4th was ridiculouse but the high end of the second beggining of the third was my favorite. Music was always a must, some days DXM + Music was better than MDMA + Music. I dont remember my nose opening or really deep breathes, when ever I did DXM I chain smoked. My biggest super paranoid fear was running out of smokes on dxm. It made the high stronger and better, kinda like w/ opies but w/ dxm there was no limit. Too much nicotine will ruin an opie high but not dxm, I would do bumps of snuff and puff down cigars.

AWOL
01-02-2007, 12:29 AM
That's how I started smoking actually. DXM and smoking are a must! Amazing how it affects the trip if you have little tollerance to smoking. Even now I still chain smoke on DXM, just something ya gotta do.

BizzyBone
01-02-2007, 05:43 AM
Well damn looks like im gonna have to stop by my local doller general and see if they have the store brand dxm there lol

BizzyBone
01-03-2007, 02:24 PM
Is there a extraction you can do for the dxm , apap , & nasel decongestion tablets?..To get the bad stuff out...I know its a waste of time and should just go buy some dxm gel caps but i looked around today at the store and didnt see none except some childrens with like 5 mg of dxm and had something else in it o 80 mg's of apap thats what it was

Papa Verine
01-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Is there a extraction you can do for the dxm , apap , & nasel decongestion tablets?..To get the bad stuff out...I know its a waste of time and should just go buy some dxm gel caps but i looked around today at the store and didnt see none except some childrens with like 5 mg of dxm and had something else in it o 80 mg's of apap thats what it was

This doesn't sound right. At my local drug stores they sell numerous products that contain DXM only. Even the local convenient store sells the gel caps. Try a few different stores Bizzy.

AWOL
01-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Is there a extraction you can do for the dxm , apap , & nasel decongestion tablets?..To get the bad stuff out...I know its a waste of time and should just go buy some dxm gel caps but i looked around today at the store and didnt see none except some childrens with like 5 mg of dxm and had something else in it o 80 mg's of apap thats what it was

Wal-mart. Walgreens.


Careful with the dose at first. All new timers get all excited about it, overdo it and end up with an 8 hour experience from hell. Remember, 3 hours on the dot for the gel caps.

kidding
01-03-2007, 11:06 PM
"Keep in mind that it takes 3 hours for the pills to start kicking in if they're a liquid gel. That's no exageration, 3 hours, then shit happens."


i'm not so sure about that... i think it depends on how much you've eaten.... i took them on an empty stomach after not eating all day and they kicked in in less than an hour.... that said, i ended up vomiting..... which doesn't affect the trip but nevertheless wasn't really a pleasant experience.

then another time i took it after a full meal and it took like 4 hours to kick in.....

so eat something first (not necessarily a full meal...... some crackers should do). much better to wait up to 3 hours than to throw up!

AWOL
01-04-2007, 06:18 PM
i'm not so sure about that... i think it depends on how much you've eaten.... i took them on an empty stomach after not eating all day and they kicked in in less than an hour.... that said, i ended up vomiting..... which doesn't affect the trip but nevertheless wasn't really a pleasant experience.

then another time i took it after a full meal and it took like 4 hours to kick in.....

so eat something first (not necessarily a full meal...... some crackers should do). much better to wait up to 3 hours than to throw up!

I've done hundreds of DXM trips. With the liquid gels, you can count on 3 hours to the dot in most all cases. If you've taken way too much (maybe on purpose, shooting high) then yeah you're going to feel the effects sooner, and probably end up like yourself ... puking in the toilet. :)

Flagg
01-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Is there a extraction you can do for the dxm , apap , & nasel decongestion tablets?..To get the bad stuff out...I know its a waste of time and should just go buy some dxm gel caps but i looked around today at the store and didnt see none except some childrens with like 5 mg of dxm and had something else in it o 80 mg's of apap thats what it was

Nah, just keep 'em around for real colds. They really help with some sudafed.

kidding
01-04-2007, 08:10 PM
I've done hundreds of DXM trips. With the liquid gels, you can count on 3 hours to the dot in most all cases. If you've taken way too much (maybe on purpose, shooting high) then yeah you're going to feel the effects sooner, and probably end up like yourself ... puking in the toilet. :)

it was 13 of them... i don't think that's way too much but maybe... i'm pretty small

Dexter the Meth Orphan
01-05-2007, 09:31 AM
Gel caps are tricky lil buggers. The best way to dose with them is to keep the bottle in you pocket for 30 minutes or there about so that the gelatin can soften up a bit. That will aid in the caps bursting a bit more soon. I wouldn't quite say 3 hours as an overall come up time though, as that depends on the temp (softness) of the gel caps/the person/what is in the persons stomach. Generally speaking, you should wait at least 3 hours after having eaten to dose with a dxm prep. This will help get the dxm to your GI much quicker, and that means that your liver will be able to start breaking down the DXM into DXO...and this means a faster come up. I usually start feeling the come up in 30 to 45 minutes.