Adderall is the face of god

[satori]

JESUS CHRIST adderall is fantastic. Let me explain (LET ME EXPLAIN!). I was perscribed a very low dose to start with because i have soooooooo many other pscyhiatric disorders one of which is OCD and general anxiety (which can be made worse with this med). I was paranaoid about taking just the 10mg XR so i would open it up and take half of those little balls. IT was neat but not good. Then i ran out of opiates 6 days ago. I was only taking codeine but i was taking it reguaraly and i am completely addicted to opiates of all kinds. As long as there is any opiate somewhere in my system im ok but once there gone... BAM - WALL! I ended up finding two 8mg codeine i found and i took those 4 days ago but those are worthless. My mind raced to find something else to fill the spot. I cant take a bunch of different drugs at the same time its either one or the other so for the first two days i took fioricet (very nice calming effect by the way).

But then 2 (3?) mornings ago i woke up and just took one pill. IT started working, THEN TOOK ANOTHER! Now if you dont know me which most of u dont (if not all) that go's against the very nature of my existence. I get a pill, check it, check it, check online, check it, take it, then monitor what it does to me to make sure im not dying (im not crazy i do have some issues though). In fact i notice a HUGE decrease in my OCD symptoms when on opiates which is 1/2 the reason i take them. But this morning was different. I was desperate, a shell of a human being trying to find a way to feel the world. By the time i took the third and crushed half of a 4th and did that i was in shock. WTF just happend? At first it was ok, something to toy with and helped with my concentration. But wow.... with the increase. I felt amazing, ton of energy, talking to people, i had a life again. But now two wont work as well as one did before (the typical tollerance delema). Im worried i will take it again tomarrow morning to get out of bed. I told myself i wont take one but i already have it on my night stand next to water and my Ipod.

One fear is Requiem for a dream (i beleive many here have seen it, fucked up, scary, fucked up movie). I keep thinking im going to turn out like the mom who was on dexadrine or whatever it was then at night with downers. In fact i just took my nightly clonopin. Then tomarrow im going to wake up take adderall and not eat for 6 hours. But there is good news, fucking amazing news. My room is unbeleviably clean. I used to keep my room and bathroom spotless. If there was dust i would remove it emediatly. But then i gave up. It was to much work so i just dealt with the anxiety of seing it build. But in about 5 hours today i cleaned every floor, every corner, every shelf, shower, sink, toilet, mirror, took apart light fixture and cleaned the surface. I even re-organized my books along with everything else in my room. My cloths are all folded neatly Ready to be worn.

Its... almost 4 right now which is about normal for me but im just not that tired. I know how dangerous it is etc etc. I was on ritalin for 2 years and adderall for... I dont know how long. Im cutting back or i will when i find some sort of opiate atleast.

[OpiBli$$1988]

Hi satori, i think the reason the adderall isnt working for u ne more (when u say u take two pills n they aint workin) is bc ur takin out some of the little balls inside ( my moms a nurse an told me half of the balls inside r for time release and the other half of the balls r the adderall...she coulda been bs'n me so i wouldnt take em apart tho) so ya when u take them apart u never kno how much adderall ur gunna get..i got off the XR tho, i like the regualar adderalls way better...hit harder n faster, and seem to work alot better w/ out keepin u up all night..u should deffinatly try the regular ones if the XR's arnt working ne more..hope all that makes sense..im a lil tired n messed up, hope it works out 4 ya..

also i thought i read ahwile back that u live n canada..so shouldnt u be able to get codienes otc?

[SpecialGuy69]

satori- i always enjoy your posts, your an interesting guy. I totally understand your OCD, I used to have some very minor ocd's, like I would obsess about "what if someone dosed me with LSD?" did someone put some liquid acid in my drink while i was in the bathroom? did I handle those sheets enough to absorb a dose through my skin? shit like that. If my drink left my sight for more than a few seconds, it went in the trash. I carried a bunch of rohypnol (hard to get in the US and very incriminating with the whole date rape stigmata, pricey, too) around with me to knock myself out "just in case", I actually took it once thinking I had been dosed, turns out I hadn't. I had a really terrifying LSD experience (after many, many great ones) and I think that "bad trip" brought on a lot of the OCD characteristics, paranoia, and maybe even post traumatic stress.

Back then, we were doing a lot of tours and festivals, so there was large amounts of liquid acid around at the time, and people would occasionally dose someone with like 50 hits of liquid for revenge. A friend of mine actually got dosed (we found out later it was almost an entire sweetbreath vial of strong L), then kidnapped and robbed, thrown in the trunk of a car, and left in a graveyard. He wasn't the same for a long time after that. I didn't have many enemies who would want to do this to me, but I did have lots of money and drugs back then, and robberies were common. Still, it was a very uncommon occurrence (dosing), and worrying about it was totally pointless.

Anyways, I used to obsess about this shit, and even have panic attacks over it when I thought I felt a trip coming on. Even had to stop smoking weed because it made things worse. It took about a year and a half after the "bad trip" before I totally let go of it. I still have a few very minor compulsive behaviors (like checking locks twice or shaving too much trying to get my face totally smooth, recounting money, etc) but it doesn't interfere in my life at all anymore. Just knowing I have a xanax around to abort a panic attack is usually enough to keep me calm now. I guess I just outgrew it mostly???

Well, the point of that long-ass, disjointed story was that I know what it's like to obsess about poisoning, pill interactions, health issues, etc and how much it sucks. The good thing is that you recognize it for what it is instead of buying into the thought cycle, and you are working to improve it. OCD can be minimized to the point where it won't bother you anymore. Even though I was never really severe, I am proof that it can get a lot better.

Okay that was kind of off-topic. Compulsive behavior? Manic episode? Nah I don't think so. Careful with the adderalls, when you have anxiety and OCD, it can really aggrivate these issues. Usually, a moderate to large dose will ease the symptoms, but if you take too much, it will aggrivate the anxiety and OCD greatly and it really sucks. So, be careful and make sure you have some benzos on hand just in case, as an "ejection seat" from your stimulant run. Taking pills can be a very satisfying compulsive behavior, especially when they are positively re-enforcing pills like amphetamines.

Just keep that dose in moderation, and enjoy. You got a nice low opiate tolerance, enjoy that while it lasts- that would be a positive thing to focus your OCD on, keeping your tolerance down.

What a long, pointless post. I wonder if ANYONE is still reading. Probably just you, satori. Sometimes, if you just keep typing all is right with the world, but as soon as you stop things suck. Weird.

[satori]

Hi satori, i think the reason the adderall isnt working for u ne more (when u say u take two pills n they aint workin) is bc ur takin out some of the little balls inside ( my moms a nurse an told me half of the balls inside r for time release and the other half of the balls r the adderall...she coulda been bs'n me so i wouldnt take em apart tho) so ya when u take them apart u never kno how much adderall ur gunna get..i got off the XR tho, i like the regualar adderalls way better...hit harder n faster, and seem to work alot better w/ out keepin u up all night..u should deffinatly try the regular ones if the XR's arnt working ne more..hope all that makes sense..im a lil tired n messed up, hope it works out 4 ya..

also i thought i read ahwile back that u live n canada..so shouldnt u be able to get codienes otc?


Whenever i took those little balls out of a pill i made sure to keep it seperate from the others. Im going to see if i can get just regular adderall instead of the XR. Then again i have heard the come down is pretty bad.

I dont live in canada. I normaly order otc codeine from overseas

[satori]

Also i wanted to say im not implying that adderall is god just that if you take it you will quiete litteraly see his face. Your almost gurenteed this if your geneticaly predisposed to developing schizophrenia.

[freedomclub]

So does banana peels make ya see God's ass?

[Morefiend]

whats the difference between street amphetamines and dex

[moviebuff927]

In high school, a 30mg Adderall was my best friend. Then halfway through high school, they came out with the XR. Now, you can still get pretty high off of them, but I agree with the person who said the regular Adderalls are a lot better. They hit a hell of a lot harder, they made me feel like I was God. Talking my head off to complete strangers, finishing my homework for the next 2 weeks, and just feeling SO euphoric that I just sat there and breathed and with every breath I could feel complete euphoria. I don't think I've ever done any drug that had that much euphoria that lasted that long.

I haven't taken them in years, mainly because I can't get them anymore. But satori, be careful with that shit. There's a reason it's Schedule 2 and it ain't because it feels good (well, I guess that's one of the reasons :D )

But they do make you get your work done, keep your house spotless, and make your mouth run 90 miles a second...man, the good old days.

-moviebuff

[OpiBli$$1988]

Yeah i too have anxiety issues, but i for me adderall actually helps me for anxiety...it seems to calm me down now n be more relaxed...just like tm, i too had to quit smoking as much pot, pot seems to make things alot worse for me and anxiety, now if i smoke its only once in a blue moon or by myself ;[

[satori]

the adderall seems to help with my depression (nice side effect). I didnt take any today. Im going to take "breaks".

[satori]

What about crushing up the lil balls? Would that make it similiar to the instant release or is it the chemical make up that allows it to absorb slower?

[candyshop]

satori- i always enjoy your posts, your an interesting guy. I totally understand your OCD, I used to have some very minor ocd's, like I would obsess about "what if someone dosed me with LSD?" did someone put some liquid acid in my drink while i was in the bathroom? did I handle those sheets enough to absorb a dose through my skin? shit like that. If my drink left my sight for more than a few seconds, it went in the trash. I carried a bunch of rohypnol (hard to get in the US and very incriminating with the whole date rape stigmata, pricey, too) around with me to knock myself out "just in case", I actually took it once thinking I had been dosed, turns out I hadn't. I had a really terrifying LSD experience (after many, many great ones) and I think that "bad trip" brought on a lot of the OCD characteristics, paranoia, and maybe even post traumatic stress.

Back then, we were doing a lot of tours and festivals, so there was large amounts of liquid acid around at the time, and people would occasionally dose someone with like 50 hits of liquid for revenge. A friend of mine actually got dosed (we found out later it was almost an entire sweetbreath vial of strong L), then kidnapped and robbed, thrown in the trunk of a car, and left in a graveyard. He wasn't the same for a long time after that. I didn't have many enemies who would want to do this to me, but I did have lots of money and drugs back then, and robberies were common. Still, it was a very uncommon occurrence (dosing), and worrying about it was totally pointless.

Anyways, I used to obsess about this shit, and even have panic attacks over it when I thought I felt a trip coming on. Even had to stop smoking weed because it made things worse. It took about a year and a half after the "bad trip" before I totally let go of it. I still have a few very minor compulsive behaviors (like checking locks twice or shaving too much trying to get my face totally smooth, recounting money, etc) but it doesn't interfere in my life at all anymore. Just knowing I have a xanax around to abort a panic attack is usually enough to keep me calm now. I guess I just outgrew it mostly???

Well, the point of that long-ass, disjointed story was that I know what it's like to obsess about poisoning, pill interactions, health issues, etc and how much it sucks. The good thing is that you recognize it for what it is instead of buying into the thought cycle, and you are working to improve it. OCD can be minimized to the point where it won't bother you anymore. Even though I was never really severe, I am proof that it can get a lot better.

Okay that was kind of off-topic. Compulsive behavior? Manic episode? Nah I don't think so. Careful with the adderalls, when you have anxiety and OCD, it can really aggrivate these issues. Usually, a moderate to large dose will ease the symptoms, but if you take too much, it will aggrivate the anxiety and OCD greatly and it really sucks. So, be careful and make sure you have some benzos on hand just in case, as an "ejection seat" from your stimulant run. Taking pills can be a very satisfying compulsive behavior, especially when they are positively re-enforcing pills like amphetamines.

Just keep that dose in moderation, and enjoy. You got a nice low opiate tolerance, enjoy that while it lasts- that would be a positive thing to focus your OCD on, keeping your tolerance down.

What a long, pointless post. I wonder if ANYONE is still reading. Probably just you, satori. Sometimes, if you just keep typing all is right with the world, but as soon as you stop things suck. Weird.


really really weird -the same thing happened to me after a bad trip--COMPLETE terror of hallucinogens-fear of being dosed-onset of panic attacks-constant anxiety-still cannot smoke pot-this was 15 years ago and the anxiety remains-had hundred of good trips but that one SUPER BAD (cannot describe the utter hellishness) changed me permenently in some ways

[zombiewoof23]

The Adderall XR's seem to be a similar pill to Avinza in that the beads are designed to break down at different times throughout the day. Peak plasma level in the XR is in 7 hours while peak in the IR is in 3 hours. If you feel like you are having trouble with absorption, it could be tolerance building, or do you by chance drink orange juice or anything with vitamin C/Citric Acid? I've read that citric acid or vitamin C can keep your system from digesting the amphetamines.

I swear by adderall. It is the only drug that has helped me with my depression and has also allowed me to stay focused on my tasks. I am currently prescribed 1x 20mg XR/day. I usually take that along with 1x 5-10mg IR sometime later in the afternoon. This seems to be the perfect dose for me at the moment. I think I'm going to try to get the Doc to change my script to 3x 10mg IR's/day this week. I prefer the IRs too.

For the tolerance issue: "Magnesium, L-Theanine, and Huperzine are apparently all NMDA antagonists which help prevent adderall tolerance. Magnesium in particular has shown to be out of balance in people with ADD, and can supposedly help the body retain stims for longer than normal periods of time." I also personally add ginko to the list of my daily supplements.

[CUBErt]

I had a really good experience as well, for New Years:

30mg Methadone
20mg Adderall
Several Alcoholic Beverages
A Few Bong Rips

Now thats what I call euphoria

[satori]

really really weird -the same thing happened to me after a bad trip--COMPLETE terror of hallucinogens-fear of being dosed-onset of panic attacks-constant anxiety-still cannot smoke pot-this was 15 years ago and the anxiety remains-had hundred of good trips but that one SUPER BAD (cannot describe the utter hellishness) changed me permenently in some ways

PTSD?

[satori]

The Adderall XR's seem to be a similar pill to Avinza in that the beads are designed to break down at different times throughout the day. Peak plasma level in the XR is in 7 hours while peak in the IR is in 3 hours. If you feel like you are having trouble with absorption, it could be tolerance building, or do you by chance drink orange juice or anything with vitamin C/Citric Acid? I've read that citric acid or vitamin C can keep your system from digesting the amphetamines.

MY GOD! The second day i drank 3 cups of orange juice. I normay dont but i felt so energetic and happy that i decided to be "healthy". I had an apple and a banana to lol. That was about all i ate up untill 2 (am). it didnt keep me up i have something something delayed sleep syndrome (who knows any more right?). Im going to try and switch to the IR. It has DEFF> helped with depression much more then anything i have EVER taken. In the past month i had been getting 12 hrs of sleep and still couldnt get out of bed its torture. I have lived here 3 years but dont know anybody i can just go hang ut with and havent started college again (next week). So i usualy just lay there 1/2 hour or so.

THe other day my mom found 2 codeine pills and woke me up to give them to me. I told her i just took adderall and her response was "well then they will work that much better". Thats exactly why i have had a hard time moving out. THat and my crazy crazy mind. I also realized that im a philosopher, futurist, and film critic. Now does anybody care what i say? Of course not but i lead a fucking weird life. Up untill recently i hadnt even noticed i wasnt leaving the house often for over 4 years. When this realization hit me i damn near fell to the floor. Adderall kicked me in the ass and i was outside socializing (crazyness). Praise be to adderall.


Also no one else responded that i could see about crushing those damned little beads. If they are pure powder and u just swollow it will it become more instant release?

[zombiewoof23]

Also no one else responded that i could see about crushing those damned little beads. If they are pure powder and u just swollow it will it become more instant release?

I don't believe crushing the beads will make them IR's. I think they are made up similar to avinzas. All crushing up the pill is going to do is provide more surface area on the drug in your stomach, which means you should digest it a little quicker, but you still aren't breaking the time release. I've personally never tried with these, so I can't help you. If it is super important to you, maybe start out by using the crisping method that was posted concerning avinzas, then let us know how it goes and if it works. All of this seems like too much work for adderall IMO.

I'm not sure if amphetamine salts are soluble in water or not, but if you do a little research you should be able to find out and if they are soluble like morphine, then maybe Ike's method could work. The easiest thing to do is have the doc simply switch you to IR and forget about the XR's. I'll be doing the same thing tomorrow at my appt.

[satori]

Yea i just switched to IR. The XR was making it near impossible for me to fall asleep at night atleast before 5am.

[insaneike]

I'm no big fan of dexidrine or addies, but when I'm not wanting to do a lot of opis I love to take a few addies for sex... The only nega effect is it makes me like a 14yo virgin again lol. Sex on opis is SOO much better!!!:cool:

and yeah, doing the 'Ike extracting' is perfect for addies too! It's what I always do when I would get the XR30s from a friend...

[satori]

Im doing my best to actualy use as perscribed. 90% of the time atleast. I have been having some sort of sleeping problem (before adderall) and i have been really tired during the day. I had takin 30mg XR at 5 a week ago and i still felt i could run a mile at 2 in the morning. This was obviously a bad sign lol.

[WarmCyanide]

anyone who doses someone unknowingly with large amounts of Acid has no soul. It's never happened to me but i've dosed alot alot alot and the last trip was the worst thing. never again. same with nitrous.

[zombiewoof23]

Im doing my best to actualy use as perscribed. 90% of the time atleast. I have been having some sort of sleeping problem (before adderall) and i have been really tired during the day. I had takin 30mg XR at 5 a week ago and i still felt i could run a mile at 2 in the morning. This was obviously a bad sign lol.

I had the same problem with the 30mg XR's when I was taking them as prescribed. I was getting shit done, but I couldn't fall asleep and was a little more nervous than I like to be throughout the day. I also lost 15 lbs in less than 2 months. I didn't want to lose weight, so that was also a negative side effect for me. Everybody's body and brain chemistry is different, but personally I have been maintaining weight around 170lbs, lost the nervousness and have been able to sleep since I had the doc cut my dose down to 1x 20mg XR/day. I also take 5-10mg's of an IR too sometime throughout the day and have lost the negative side effects. I am going to try to get him to prescribe me 3x 10-15mg IR's tomorrow, so I can see how that goes, or possibly tell him that the 20mg XR wears off too quick during the day and see if he'll prescribe me 1-2x 10mg's/day on top of the 20XR. The 20 XR doesn't seem like quite enough and the 30 XR is too much for me. I had an easier time sleeping on 50mg's of IR's taken throughout the day than I did on 1x 30mg XR. I'm not interested at all in the negative side effects associated with amphetamine use, so I do try to take them as prescribed. I've already been there done that with meth and don't want to go back to the land of shadows.

[satori]

I wont ever touch meth. I know a lot of people say "never" but i mean Never EVER!

[sweetdreams]

okay so you are saying that i should ask my psychiatrist for some adderall to help me with my anxiety? and my sleep? i cant sleep at all! i am on 115 mg of methadone and i WAS prescribed klonopins but the meth clinic WONT ALLOW me to take them. it sucks but i have to follow the rules( dont want to lose my take homes) they just gave me remeron and that shit all it does is make me nod all day long. it does knock me out but it knocks me out too much! Plus it makes you gain weight and i dont need any extra weight( if ya know what i mean)
This lady had a bunch of adderall and she was zoomin around, i dont need any speed i already have enough energy! believe me! She was sayin its like speed? I always thought of it like speed?

[SpecialGuy69]

okay so you are saying that i should ask my psychiatrist for some adderall to help me with my anxiety? and my sleep? i cant sleep at all! i am on 115 mg of methadone and i WAS prescribed klonopins but the meth clinic WONT ALLOW me to take them. it sucks but i have to follow the rules( dont want to lose my take homes) they just gave me remeron and that shit all it does is make me nod all day long. it does knock me out but it knocks me out too much! Plus it makes you gain weight and i dont need any extra weight( if ya know what i mean)
This lady had a bunch of adderall and she was zoomin around, i dont need any speed i already have enough energy! believe me! She was sayin its like speed? I always thought of it like speed?sweetdreams, adderall is speed- the bottle says mixed amphetamine salts. It will give you more anxiety and less sleep, so definitely don't go to the doc asking for amphetamine to help you sleep and calm down. Unless it has a paradoxical effect on you (where drugs do the opposite of it's intended purpose, like when your methadone, which is supposed to be a downer, speeds you up) which is very unlikely, the doc is gonna think your a drug-seeking patient who got their facts wrong.

To get adderall, tell the doc you took it in high school (if you are of the right age) and it helped a lot with your focus and concentration. Now, you find yourself not being able to pay attention during meetings at work, and your mind is wandering at work. Okay i just read that you don't want speed anyways, so nevermind that. Unless you want to get the pills to sell...If you know a doctor whos cool enough to write what you need, tell him you want the addies. You can sell 'em for a couple of bucks a peice.

To me it's not worth it. When my doctor told me he wanted to get me off some of my meds, the adderalls and the ambiens were the first to go --> they are very useful, but I need my xanax, percocet, and fent more!

[OxyContinuously]

JESUS CHRIST adderall is fantastic. Let me explain (LET ME EXPLAIN!). I was perscribed a very low dose to start with because i have soooooooo many other pscyhiatric disorders one of which is OCD and general anxiety (which can be made worse with this med). I was paranaoid about taking just the 10mg XR so i would open it up and take half of those little balls. IT was neat but not good. Then i ran out of opiates 6 days ago. I was only taking codeine but i was taking it reguaraly and i am completely addicted to opiates of all kinds. As long as there is any opiate somewhere in my system im ok but once there gone... BAM - WALL! I ended up finding two 8mg codeine i found and i took those 4 days ago but those are worthless. My mind raced to find something else to fill the spot. I cant take a bunch of different drugs at the same time its either one or the other so for the first two days i took fioricet (very nice calming effect by the way).

But then 2 (3?) mornings ago i woke up and just took one pill. IT started working, THEN TOOK ANOTHER! Now if you dont know me which most of u dont (if not all) that go's against the very nature of my existence. I get a pill, check it, check it, check online, check it, take it, then monitor what it does to me to make sure im not dying (im not crazy i do have some issues though). In fact i notice a HUGE decrease in my OCD symptoms when on opiates which is 1/2 the reason i take them. But this morning was different. I was desperate, a shell of a human being trying to find a way to feel the world. By the time i took the third and crushed half of a 4th and did that i was in shock. WTF just happend? At first it was ok, something to toy with and helped with my concentration. But wow.... with the increase. I felt amazing, ton of energy, talking to people, i had a life again. But now two wont work as well as one did before (the typical tollerance delema). Im worried i will take it again tomarrow morning to get out of bed. I told myself i wont take one but i already have it on my night stand next to water and my Ipod.

One fear is Requiem for a dream (i beleive many here have seen it, fucked up, scary, fucked up movie). I keep thinking im going to turn out like the mom who was on dexadrine or whatever it was then at night with downers. In fact i just took my nightly clonopin. Then tomarrow im going to wake up take adderall and not eat for 6 hours. But there is good news, fucking amazing news. My room is unbeleviably clean. I used to keep my room and bathroom spotless. If there was dust i would remove it emediatly. But then i gave up. It was to much work so i just dealt with the anxiety of seing it build. But in about 5 hours today i cleaned every floor, every corner, every shelf, shower, sink, toilet, mirror, took apart light fixture and cleaned the surface. I even re-organized my books along with everything else in my room. My cloths are all folded neatly Ready to be worn.

Its... almost 4 right now which is about normal for me but im just not that tired. I know how dangerous it is etc etc. I was on ritalin for 2 years and adderall for... I dont know how long. Im cutting back or i will when i find some sort of opiate atleast.

Adderall IS fantastic...i agree and also, I think it beats the shit out of Ritalin as far as smoothness and all that.

OxyC

[zombiewoof23]

I wont ever touch meth. I know a lot of people say "never" but i mean Never EVER!

I can safely say that I won't ever again either. I've past it up a bunch in the past 5 years. Wish I could say the same for yay and other substances.

[satori]

okay so you are saying that i should ask my psychiatrist for some adderall to help me with my anxiety? and my sleep? i cant sleep at all! i am on 115 mg of methadone and i WAS prescribed klonopins but the meth clinic WONT ALLOW me to take them. it sucks but i have to follow the rules( dont want to lose my take homes) they just gave me remeron and that shit all it does is make me nod all day long. it does knock me out but it knocks me out too much! Plus it makes you gain weight and i dont need any extra weight( if ya know what i mean)
This lady had a bunch of adderall and she was zoomin around, i dont need any speed i already have enough energy! believe me! She was sayin its like speed? I always thought of it like speed?


What the.... I was saying i couldnt sleep on adderall. in fact most people have a hard time sleeping when they first start taking it. We were talking about the difference between Extended Release and Instant release. Instant release causes LESS sleeping problems it doesnt help them. Also it will only help certain types of depression and for anxiety.... maybe if a lot of the anxiety is over the fact your thoughts are racing or about a bunch of different things but in genneral adderall makes anxiety and sleeping problems WORSE.

[satori]

I have only had the good fortune to have the IRs and they are fantastic. However, I first converted amt = to my 60mgs of rits a day= 30mg addies. But I was still dragging on 3 10mg IR/daily, so doc wrote out 90 x 20mg. I didnt realize I wasn't "suppose" to combine and was taking 90mg daily for a mth. Little to no sleep. Then on next fill he said just use the 20s and forget the 10s, 60mg/daily.

Has deff helped me, but easy to go over the line too if you have lots and lots and are mixing w/other meds and forget how many you've taken that day.

Good luck Satori. (And thanks Cubert. It was your thread that got me thinking in the first place....:D )


Yea sleep can become a bit of a stranger when your on amphetamines. I took ritalin for years (from 10-13 i beleive). Sleep didnt come easy at that time either. But last week when i was taking the XR's i was taking a couple of them at 5 (pm). I was laying in bed with a ton of energy at 3 in the morning. I could think straight atleast. But i also could have ran a mile, or 10.

[satori]

Also dont get me wrong. When i say adderall is the face of god. Im thinking (to myself) that opiates aregod. Nothing compares to opiates for me nothing comes close. But its deff. a second with nothing really close to it other then barbs, benzos, then soma (i dont like alcohol).

[zombiewoof23]

I ended up having my appt today with the doc for my adderall script. I ended up getting bumped up from 20mg XR's to 25mg XR. Not quite what I wanted. I told him the 30 was too strong and I couldn't get to sleep, and the 20 was too weak, so he suggested either taking 2x 10mg XR's daily (1 in the AM, the other in the afternoon) or just bumping up to 25mg's, so I went with the latter. I asked him if 3x 10mg's IR's daily might work better and he said there are too many peaks and valleys for most people. He had a student with him, so he was in taking charge mode, so I decided not to press it too hard. I still have a shitload of 10mg IR's anyway, so it's all good.

The only problem I've been having is dealing with the pharmacies and my insurance company on getting these things filled. I had a manufacturer's coupon last month for a free 30 day trial, so insurance wasn't a problem, but the damn pharmacy I used to give my business to refused to fill it because the doc's signature was electronic and they said it had to be handwritten, so I took the same thing to Wal-Mart and they filled it with no problem. This month I went straight to Wal-Mart and they told me my insurance company wouldn't cover the script unless my doc called them letting them know why I am prescribed adderall, so now there is a two day wait for me to get it filled. Argh!! Luckily I have plenty to tide me over, but the hassle still pisses me off. The insurance company did the same thing to me with a tussionex script a few months ago, so apparently it's a schedule II thing. Had to vent. It sucks when the script is the easy part.

[OhJoy]

I'm sorry if you said it already, but in your opinion, did you find it helped with WDs? I'm not sure my doc would give it to me, but it sounds like I would do well on it. I have depression and the only thing that lifts me out of the darkness is opiates. I would love to try this adderall.
Satori you sound a lot like me. :)

[satori]

I'm sorry if you said it already, but in your opinion, did you find it helped with WDs? I'm not sure my doc would give it to me, but it sounds like I would do well on it. I have depression and the only thing that lifts me out of the darkness is opiates. I would love to try this adderall.
Satori you sound a lot like me. :)


Adderall and withdrawals... my god i dont know. No direct experience. I very rarely experience full physicaly withdrawal 90% of the time its purely psychological. So for me another drug to fill the gap or atleast get me through the day helps but for physical + psychological..... or just physical.... Seems like it would be a disaster waiting to happen. Or maybe not. Maybe it could really help with the lack of energy etc. Just the few days i was on adderall i couldnt help but exercise a ton and didnt eat much (enough to be able to work out and not be dangerous). I ended up losing 3 pounds which doesnt sound like a lot but thats a pound a day. If i could keep that up thats 30 pounds in a month in which case i would most likely die lol.

I have to go back to school for the first time after dropping out 4 years ago (got GED) and am now starting college. That plus withdrawal, family moving to opposite sides of the country (litteraly) = me franticly trying to find something to dull the pain or mask it. I mean FRANTIC! Not dangerous but running around looking in cabnets eyeing my poppy extract. Then i found the goodness of adderall but-BUT I have to respect it because i dont want to get strung out.

I have problem with poppy extract because im possitive some type of poison has formed in it. I didnt have it refriggerated for a while though there was some vodka in it (not sure ow much). But the fact it was out for a month or so means im convinced it will kill me. I have taken a few doses but it still doesnt feel safe.

[OhJoy]

I know where you are coming from. I can relate. It's hard to keep your mind together when so much shit is hitting at the same time. It's quite an overwhelming feeling. I wish you well. If you had alcohol in there, it should be good.
Keep me posted.

[satori]

I know where you are coming from. I can relate. It's hard to keep your mind together when so much shit is hitting at the same time. It's quite an overwhelming feeling. I wish you well. If you had alcohol in there, it should be good.
Keep me posted.


Clonopin and fiorcet

[zombiewoof23]

Here ya go Satori. I have found that I do prefer the Adderall XR to the IR's. I'm still playing the insurance game and am still waiting for insurance to cover my script. I have been taking 20 mg XR's for the past month as I've been prescribed and with this insurance game have been forced to break into my IR stash. The XR to me is a whole lot smoother during the course of the day while taking it as prescribed. I can feel the peaks and valleys in the IR a little more. I can feel when they both wear off, or what some call the crash about the same. If you use adderall for the buzz factor, then the IR would be the way to go, because you can snort, smoke, or bang it without too much trouble.

With other drugs I prefer the IR because I am totally out to get fucked up, with this drug I prefer the XR because it does help me maintain focus and works as its intended with minimal side effects. I do prefer to stay on the lower doses. The link below will send you to the manufacturer's insert. Take note on the Pharmacokinetics graph describing plasma concentrations between the both the XR and the IR. Also the paragraph "Drug Interactions" which is the last paragraph on page one where it talks about acidifying agents lowering the absorption of amphetamines.

http://www.adderallxr.com/assets/pdf/prescribing_information.pdf

[satori]

Here ya go Satori. I have found that I do prefer the Adderall XR to the IR's. I'm still playing the insurance game and am still waiting for insurance to cover my script. I have been taking 20 mg XR's for the past month as I've been prescribed and with this insurance game have been forced to break into my IR stash. The XR to me is a whole lot smoother during the course of the day while taking it as prescribed. I can feel the peaks and valleys in the IR a little more. I can feel when they both wear off, or what some call the crash about the same. If you use adderall for the buzz factor, then the IR would be the way to go, because you can snort, smoke, or bang it without too much trouble.

With other drugs I prefer the IR because I am totally out to get fucked up, with this drug I prefer the XR because it does help me maintain focus and works as its intended with minimal side effects. I do prefer to stay on the lower doses. The link below will send you to the manufacturer's insert. Take note on the Pharmacokinetics graph describing plasma concentrations between the both the XR and the IR. Also the paragraph "Drug Interactions" which is the last paragraph on page one where it talks about acidifying agents lowering the absorption of amphetamines.

http://www.adderallxr.com/assets/pdf/prescribing_information.pdf


You know today i came to almost the same conclusion. I couldnt sleep last night so i took 25mg XR. Much Much better then the little blue pills. Kept me feeling awake x10 up untill 6:00 pm. Im even thinking of switcing BACK to XR at a higher dose.

[zombiewoof23]

I pointed out the acidifying agents lowering the absorption rate. If you keep reading it says that alkalinizing agents such as sodium bicarbonate increase absorption. One should avoid this <wink>. Take note on both types of antidepressants and their effects as well. I took myself off of antidepressants and lithium way back in 1998, so I personally dont pay attention to those Drug interactions anymore. They may apply in your case and it looks like they potentiate amphetamines as well.

[Sitar]

Lithium decreases the absorption of amphetamines.

[Chipper]

whats the difference between street amphetamines and dex

Street amphetamines (usually) = methamphetamine = potent with 12 hour+ duration.

Dex = dextroamphetamine = much milder with 4-6 hour duration.

[zombiewoof23]

Street amphetamines (usually) = methamphetamine = potent with 12 hour+ duration.

Dex = dextroamphetamine = much milder with 4-6 hour duration.

Plus you really don't know what your getting. The ice from way back when I started using Meth was made with red phosphorus I believe. We called it red and black. Since many of these chemicals are hard to come by today, then bathtub type crank/meth could be more common depending on where you are. I know the last time I did ice last year, it wasnt anything like the red & black from when I first started. I know never say never, but I can safely say that meth is something that I'll never intentionally touch again.

[quest390]

get a piece of gum.... chew it..... take it out and make a little bowl in it........ pour all the balls in the gum..... chew the gum. it will crush all the xr balls and be an instant release. let me know how it goes.

[Flagg]

Christ that sounds nice. The next time I decide to abuse my ritalin XR I think I'm gonna hack off the XR half and wrap the nice white powdery part in gum. Yum yum. Snorting it sucked.

Does anyone know whether fatty foods absorb these meds? I read somewhere that they did, so I've been eating less fatty foods, and less salty foods because my doc said he'd take me off of them if my BP is too high. I had my BP checked at the clinic today and it's the lowest it's been since I moved here in May :D Oh, the motivation that drugs provide ... if some doc said he'd give me 30 OC 80's if I lost twenty pounds I'd be fit in three weeks.

[zombiewoof23]

Does anyone know whether fatty foods absorb these meds? I read somewhere that they did, so I've been eating less fatty foods, and less salty foods because my doc said he'd take me off of them if my BP is too high.

Check out the manufacturer's insert link I posted above. It's all there.