How many doses is this?

[veovis]

Ok, I'm stoned and on a lot of ambien, which is a... weirder high than you might expect (sadly, I am on no opiates now) so I'll probably get flamed for something I say, but hopefully not banned. We'll see. But I have a question that I am confident that someone here will know the answer to. I didn't see any similar answers for this SPECIFICALLY in past threads, so.. here goes:

Lets say hypothetically that someone has the ability to get .5mg/10ml x 10 ml of liquid, injectable Fentanyl ampules. How many doses is this for the moderate to low-tolerance individual? If a person didn't want to inject, but smoke, how many doses might this be, were it smoked off some foil? This is not a gel or matrix from a patch, but a liquid from an ampule that I am talking about. So is smoking it just not even feasible? If it is feasible, would the method for smoking it just be the same thing as if it were a gel?

Lastly, IF it were you, would you pay $30 for that amount of fent, or is that just insanely overpriced? What if you were starting to get desperate?

For those who answer any of my questions: Thanks!! :)
For those who flame: I'm sorry for whatever way I was an idiot in my post, but you're probably right.

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[Ginger Snap]

I am assuming this came from an ER or OR. Fent is administered in MCG (mikes) not MG (mils or milligrams) For a newbie I would RUN RUN RUN. It is a great price, but not worth an OD. Let me see if this makes it clearer. A fent patch has anywhere from 25 mcg-100 mcg delivered per HOUR thru the skin. Fent lollies have 400-1600 mcgs per dose orally thru the mucous membranes in the mouth. Someone with tolerance can suck gel from the patch, and do OK but you must be very careful. The key thing to remember is if you sucked a patch, you get 72 hours worth of meds in a few minutes. !00 mcg patches have 10 mg of fent total, to be spread over three days. This is not something a casual hydro user or recreational user should try. If this hasn't persuaded you, I don't think it would be easy to smoke it in the form received. The doses always confuse people, often its the last thing they see. Please don't feel like I am being prissy or negative, I am a nurse and have seen this go very badly, very quickly. Trade for some lollies, they are a great happy buzz and your buddy can remove them from your mouth if you go bad and need CPR. Only Kidding. PLEASEEEEEEE BE CAREFUL!!!!!

Peace,

Ginger Snap

[fattyarbuckle]

Ok, I'm stoned and on a lot of ambien, which is a... weirder high than you might expect (sadly, I am on no opiates now) so I'll probably get flamed for something I say, but hopefully not banned. We'll see. But I have a question that I am confident that someone here will know the answer to. I didn't see any similar answers for this SPECIFICALLY in past threads, so.. here goes:

Lets say hypothetically that someone has the ability to get .5mg/10ml x 10 ml of liquid, injectable Fentanyl ampules. How many doses is this for the moderate to low-tolerance individual? If a person didn't want to inject, but smoke, how many doses might this be, were it smoked off some foil? This is not a gel or matrix from a patch, but a liquid from an ampule that I am talking about. So is smoking it just not even feasible? If it is feasible, would the method for smoking it just be the same thing as if it were a gel?

Lastly, IF it were you, would you pay $30 for that amount of fent, or is that just insanely overpriced? What if you were starting to get desperate?

For those who answer any of my questions: Thanks!! :)
For those who flame: I'm sorry for whatever way I was an idiot in my post, but you're probably right.

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Dont walk, run. Hypothetically yer about to die. I was handed two of the lollipops out of the blue a few months ago and noticed the Mcg on the label. The idea that you would have a puddle of it makes me ill.

Don't worry about hypotheticals, or getting banned from forums. You've got a long time to go, a lot of days to stare at your toe. Unless of course you ingest a large (tiny, so small you cant see it) amount of that stuff rapidly and suprise everyone by how lifeless you suddenly become before they can divvy up whats left.

Man its late, I'm bleary eyed and you just turned me in to Nancy Reagen. You are incapable of dividing that up in to 'doses', unless you have a machine that weighs out millionths of a gram...

I just created that sig, you just reminded me why.

PS. Airplane glue is cheap.

[robojunkie]

If all that labelling is right then you have 500 mcg/ 10 ml. I'd make damn sure if you don't take the above advice that the labeling you wrote is right. big (deadly) differece between ".5 mg/10 ml x 10 ml" and say ".5 mg/1.0 ml x 10 ml). Either way if you do end up doing it via smoking you better have a good microsyringe or dilute it first! And like others have said a typical starter dose on fent is 25 mcg/hour (by patch). That would be only half a ml if the quoted label is right. If you do it seriously make sure about that label, check your math and start with significantly less than what you calculate that you need. (All this assuming you don't take the advice to "run" from it!!!)

Be careful with that shit!

[youwonhundred]

Better yet, send them to me for proper disposal.

(ok ok i couldnt resist)

[Papa Verine]

Hey Veovis! I've seen similar things before. Also sufentanil and alfentinil. Make sure yours don't say that. The ones I saw were veterinary (I hope you don't have any shit like that!!!) If you're not smart enough to figure simple things out on your own you shouldn't be fucking with any Fentanyl at all.

[veovis]

If you're not smart enough to figure simple things out on your own you shouldn't be fucking with any Fentanyl at all.

Typical elitist BS.^ How can one be "smart enough" to "figure out" a dosage? You don't "figure out" a dosage, as that would be stupid. I'm doing research, looking over the 'net for this info, and this is one place I thought I might find some good advice. No, it's not veterinary fent, it's fentanyl manufactured by Janssen Cilag. In fact, heres a pic (http://www.adair.at/agai/images/Pharmaceuticals/FentanylObject02VCAI02.jpg) of one similar (but not the same) to the hypothetical ampule I mentioned.

Thanks to those with concern for my well-being, I do appreciate the advice. But uh... I'm not looking for airplane glue, thanks. I've used fent before, but always from gel patches, usually 50mcg/hr (smoking, eating, wearing), so I have some understanding of its potency. I'm beginning to think robojunky was right about what I was told the mg/ml content was. It has gotta be wrong. It must be .05mg/10ml, not .5mg. And no, I wouldn't just try it to see, there are other ways of finding out IF I ended up actually getting it. (I don't have the ampule itself, I have the potential to get it. Thats why I was asking about the $30 price too.)

OT PS to fattyarbuckle: I wasn't concerned about being banned for not using hypotheticals (heh, I mean I have slightly more points on this board than you ;)). I was worried about asking a question everyone would jump down my throat for asking. But thanks.

[Papa Verine]

Typical elitist BS.^ How can one be "smart enough" to "figure out" a dosage? You don't "figure out" a dosage, as that would be stupid. I'm doing research, looking over the 'net for this info, and this is one place I thought I might find some good advice. No, it's not veterinary fent, it's fentanyl manufactured by Janssen Cilag. In fact, heres a pic (http://www.adair.at/agai/images/Pharmaceuticals/FentanylObject02VCAI02.jpg) of one similar (but not the same) to the hypothetical ampule I mentioned.

Thanks to those with concern for my well-being, I do appreciate the advice. But uh... I'm not looking for airplane glue, thanks. I've used fent before, but always from gel patches, usually 50mcg/hr (smoking, eating, wearing), so I have some understanding of its potency. I'm beginning to think robojunky was right about what I was told the mg/ml content was. It has gotta be wrong. It must be .05mg/10ml, not .5mg. And no, I wouldn't just try it to see, there are other ways of finding out IF I ended up actually getting it. (I don't have the ampule itself, I have the potential to get it. Thats why I was asking about the $30 price too.)

OT PS to fattyarbuckle: I wasn't concerned about being banned for not using hypotheticals (heh, I mean I have slightly more points on this board than you ;)). I was worried about asking a question everyone would jump down my throat for asking. But thanks.

If you've used it before you should be able to do some simple math, that's all I'm saying.

[roxi*stardust]

<snip> It has gotta be wrong. It must be .05mg/10ml, not .5mg. And no, I wouldn't just try it to see, there are other ways of finding out IF I ended up actually getting it. <snip>
Ok back the truck up here. You say it must be .05mg/10ml, that can't be right. Maybe this is a MDV (Multi-Dose Vial), which means potentially what you could have on your hands is actually .05mg/1ml in a 10ml multi-dose vial. This means there maybe 10 doses of .05mg in this bottle, each 1ml contains .05mg or 50mcg. .05mg = 50mcg. It just doesn't seem right that a single 50mcg doses would be compounded into 10ml of saline or sterial water, there would be no reason for it, unless it was meant to go into an IV bag and still doesn't seem right. They give Fent IV push, but I don't see it mbeing a single doses in 10ml. Anyone here agree? Could be very dangerous if this is the cause. Ginger Snap, flipside? You two would know a bit more being exposed to these more often than I.

[SpecialGuy69]

HOLY SHIT what a rip-off! ONE little vial of fent for $30??? Dude I woulnt pay more than $17.50. You pay a penny over and you are getting ripped off!!!

[Chemical_Boy]

Man, be REALLY careful about how you proceed with this experiment. If you don't have enough knowledge about how to proceed without consulting a junky website (no offense meant by that, there are a lot of very smart people here) for your advice, then you are way out of your league with this stuff. Do some serious research into legit medical information before you mess around with this stuff or you may end up making a premature trip to that Big Ampule in the Sky.

Happy Trails!!

[nick]

Hey Veovis I'm glad you came back and why should we flame you?It's a fair question and one Papa gave a decent answer to.If you have so little knowledge about a drug you should think twice about taking it.
Papa's right.The last thing any of us want is a corpse on our hands and fenanyl is well capable of being the last substance you take.This is not flaming it's common sense.
I'm sure this is'nt what you want to hear and I'm sorry.

[flipside]

If all that labelling is right then you have 500 mcg/ 10 ml. I'd make damn sure if you don't take the above advice that the labeling you wrote is right. big (deadly) differece between ".5 mg/10 ml x 10 ml" and say ".5 mg/1.0 ml x 10 ml). Either way if you do end up doing it via smoking you better have a good microsyringe or dilute it first! And like others have said a typical starter dose on fent is 25 mcg/hour (by patch). That would be only half a ml if the quoted label is right. If you do it seriously make sure about that label, check your math and start with significantly less than what you calculate that you need. (All this assuming you don't take the advice to "run" from it!!!)

Be careful with that shit!

Can u doub;e check that dose again?

HOLY SHIT what a rip-off! ONE little vial of fent for $30??? Dude I woulnt pay more than $17.50. You pay a penny over and you are getting ripped off!!!
Bet you woulkd if there was nothing else arpoinf and you wee sick;)
What mcg/ml T? I pay street prices 50 dollars for 100mcg.2ml per vial. and as little as 30 dollars for a 100mcg patch in Bmore. It all depends on how bad you need it. Youre starting to souund like IKE:p
Seriously, If this is not a drug you have used before, be careful IV'ing. Mabey try the putting a few drops between your cheek and gum.. I know for a fact this will work.

I can give you an aprrox dose if you give me the correct dose on the label and let me know your tolerance.

Not advocating this guys, but for the purpose of harm reduction I'd rather give a starting point than see the OP OD

[SpecialGuy69]

HOLY SHIT what a rip-off! ONE little vial of fent for $30??? Dude I woulnt pay more than $17.50. You pay a penny over and you are getting ripped off!!!

Can u doub;e check that dose again?


Bet you woulkd if there was nothing else arpoinf and you wee sick;)
What mcg/ml T? I pay street prices 50 dollars for 100mcg.2ml per vial. and as little as 30 dollars for a 100mcg patch in Bmore. It all depends on how bad you need it. Youre starting to souund like IKE:p
I was joking. Even if its one dose, I'd buy two- one to try it out, and another to add to my opiate collection. That's a pretty unique item, and something you don't run across very often. I have a very bad feeling that this is a rip-off, though. I'm fairly certain that this is not from a dealer (in the traditional sense) but from an online pharmacy. And any online pharmacy offering fent is highly likely to be scammers (in my estemation).

I don't think we have to worry about vevois OD'ing overdosing. We just have to worry about his credit card getting used and abused like a crackwhore. Those nigerians sure know how to run up a cc bill quick! And I don't think VISA will refund you if you tell them "I was trying to buy injectable fentanyl ampoules, and the guy ripped me off". AmEx maybe, VISA no.

[Opiyum]

Couldnt you dilute a drop or two in some alcohol to opiate some bud? I was just thinking that's how they would use it in a hospital. Minus the weed and alcohol but I would think they would just put a drop or two in someone's IV to spread out the dose over time.
Don't have any idea if it would work but I'm just thinking that it would be similar to making a tincture of opium and putting it on weed to evaporate.
Regardless of everything if you do have a low tolerance you definatly should not be attempting to use it at all. Save it for a few years in the future when oyu do have a tolerance.

Chances are that yes he probably did get ripped off but I really wouldnt say that these are all that hard to come by. If you know the right people that are in the business and are stupid enough to risk years of medical schooling for some cash and a free high then your in. Funny thing is is that there are alot of these people out there. I never got fentanyl in this form but I also have never asked for it. I dont like fentanyl but I have gotten my fare share of Dilaudid amps and those aren't your average dealers product either.