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opm
12-29-2006, 10:56 PM
edit: i don't condone this 'practice,' just merely pointing some things out. i think for the safety concious, smoking fentanyl using the drying method mentioned by insaneike, is probably better considering (based on headaches are common side affect smokin the gel while evaporating w. heat.)

after all is said, the longer drying it out method (posted by insaneike), if you can wait an hour or whatever. i only say this because i don't know about other people but headaches are a very common side affect using the faster gel smokin route.
browsing thru this section of the forum i notice different stated methods to smoke fent,. so i wanted to throw a tip out there with the others that i hadn't seen anyone else mention, if you're short on patience or whatever.

anyway, smooth out your foil a little to be able to see the gel on the foil
no need to bowl up the foil if you can be precise with gettin the smoke (smoke is visable, esp. in light)

get a drop of your serving size, then hold the flame like a foot away from the bottom of the foil slowly raise it to the foil and you'll not see smoke while the gel heats and evaporates, after it does a little tiny poof of smoke will go up, i assume that is the fent. cause that's when the feeling arises typically. and if i miss that smoke, i don't get the desired effects.

okay this doesn't sound like a tip anymore than obvious common sense. when i first smoked this shit i didn't feel anything cause i was doing it 'wrong.' i would lose patience after heating the gel (which if you blob on there and not smear thin takes some cooking time actually) so you're better off putting that extra inhalation into the last moments of process. what i do, if the pile is too big is take two inhalations. inhale all the gel, while cooking it down, then let off on the flame, (all while inhaling to miss nothing) then after the foil is cooled, hold, exhale.

at any rate, what i'm getting at is, it seems to be, that the fent. seems to burn last after the gel evaporates from heat. however, i inhale the whole time anyway just in case i am wrong about this 'cooking down.' probable source of headaching afterwards :D

opm
12-29-2006, 11:05 PM
i forgot to mention also, that when you get a burning in your lungs (i know that sounds terrible) this to me is an indication that it was done phatly and correctly.

also i just read my post and it is hard to make sense of (oops wonder why). what i was ultimately getting at was cooking down the gel is probably the same as drying it (faster, but probably not as effecienent), once you get that gel cooked down or evaporated and hold off you'll see a white smear, once that gets heated and inhaled it'll turn brown/black then you get that lung burnin minute puff of smoke that takes you to the clouds.

edit p.s: also a tip i forgot to mention is pokin a pin hole in the patch without taking it off the backing (or piercing the backing) then sqeeze your drops out that way, when done seal with take and put in a zip lock bag. for optimum storage and reuse.

insaneike
01-03-2007, 12:57 AM
ACTUALLY, what smoke you can see is the moisture form the still wet gel evaporating, NOT the drug... when you smoke dried fent, you won't see any smoke, not from the gel that comes from the Sandoz brand 2.5mg patches anyway.

and it's pretty common sense you can go ahead and smoke it wet... i do that half the time when I open a new patch. but if you don't already smoke fent and don't know about dosing and such, you sir should dry it on a mirror, as you're not gonna be eye-balling a dose of wet gel being squeezed from a patch dude. I HIGHLY suggest you just do how I said to do in another fent thread, I know it's already turned one dude who wasn't getting shit from fent into a huge fent lover :cool: smoking the gel wet should only be done by ppl who can take a guess t the dose but just squeezing the patch thus having done it before and should NEVER be done by someone who hasn't smoked fent before as you simply can not even eye ball the dose this way, plus it's easier to waist fent when it's wet, as it takes more hits to smoke it all, and well, well all know fentanyls duration, so well, yeah,you need your dose within a min or two for a real rush or fent high.

Dunno if i read what you're saying right or not though...? but if you're saying u cna smoke wet gel as is, yeah, I think we all know that :rolleyes: lol.

opm
01-03-2007, 05:41 PM
yeah you're totally right. i was just over excited when i posted that , so good luck making any sense out of it. tho i do know how to do the method you write about i prefer to smoke my gel wet for some reason. i guess i'm just accustomed to it. i don't know what dose i am getting , you're absolutely right, but i've smoked dozens of these guys this way, and i never gob this shit on there, always keep my little blobs tidy and similar.

RobOC
01-03-2007, 06:25 PM
When I was prescribed the 50 mcg/hr patches I would dry and smoke two or three of them in one sitting, getting high for about two to three minutes off of each hit. I would get roughly ten or twelve good sized hits from each patch. The biggest problem that I found with this is that it skyrockets your tolerance through the mother fuckin roof and beyond, other than the short duration of the high it is pretty fun. Although I experienced no negative effects I am sure that if ones tolerance was not high enough bad things could happen so be careful with fent.
On another note I am pretty sure that superman introduced drying of the patch method, not insaneike. If I am wrong I apologize for taking away your thunder ike.

opm
01-03-2007, 08:50 PM
When I was prescribed the 50 mcg/hr patches I would dry and smoke two or three of them in one sitting, getting high for about two to three minutes off of each hit. I would get roughly ten or twelve good sized hits from each patch. The biggest problem that I found with this is that it skyrockets your tolerance through the mother fuckin roof and beyond, other than the short duration of the high it is pretty fun. Although I experienced no negative effects I am sure that if ones tolerance was not high enough bad things could happen so be careful with fent.
On another note I am pretty sure that superman introduced drying of the patch method, not insaneike. If I am wrong I apologize for taking away your thunder ike.

yeah i noticed this as well. but that's a given considering how potent this stuff is... if i go thru a 100mcu/hr patch in a day or two, i get a severe hangover the next two days or so after, tho i wouldn't call it withdrawls, but it may be. i get bad heachdes, body aches and the shits for a few days. not as bad as doing an oxy binge, but the symptoms still make me depressed.. sometimes i'll just pass the patch up if i don't want to deal with it, cause feeling like shit after it's all smoked up, never fails me. but sometimes smokin fent is worth it. but like all opiates, what they give they require from you twofold in return.