Dope in the mail, any thought?

[SuperJunky]

Lets say hypothetically that I was on vacation and a friend of mine trying to do me a favor bought a couple grams of dope, wrapped it in waxed paper, put it in a ziplocl press and seal bag, stuffed it in an envelope and sent it overnight with my real home address as the return. Am I fucked? I'm trying to not worry but its hard. Anyways, any one have some encouraging words or know a good lawyer? Or should I hypothetically just keep on truckin and head for mexico.. I read a couple other threads on similair topics but every one seemed to take some kind of precautions and hide it in some way. Any thing?

[AWOL]

Well, it's often times hard to read between the lines .. but if it really was your friend then you have no way of controling what he sends you. Not your fault. If it was you, then there's really no way to prove that it was you. I wouldn't worry so much.

[WarmCyanide]

all I can say is hidden in plain sight

[SpecialGuy69]

Did it get caught? If it's UPS or FedEx, when you track the package, it will say "drug interdiction" You can't track US mail. But chances are 99% it will go through fine. It's that 1 percent you gotta sweat cause it's a big deal if u get caught.

If it is caught up: if your fingerprints aren't on the inside packaging, and your friend takes the charge without snitching, you should be fine.

[AWOL]

If it wasn't sent from outside the country, then there's no reason for them to even check it.

[SuperJunky]

It really wasnt me, it was sent to a friend of my parents by a friend of mine, w/ out my knowledge. I dont want to fuck him though, but I wasnt even in the state he sent it from when it was sent so could I basically just prove this and watch the whole thing die w/ out fucking him. He had some really good intentions here, just not a very good exacution.

[AWOL]

It really wasnt me, it was sent to a friend of my parents by a friend of mine, w/ out my knowledge. I dont want to fuck him though, but I wasnt even in the state he sent it from when it was sent so could I basically just prove this and watch the whole thing die w/ out fucking him. He had some really good intentions here, just not a very good exacution.

Don't worry about it dude. 1) it's not going to get caught if it wasn't sent from outside the US. 2) You didn't send it. And unless your friend has been fingerprinted before, how would they even know who did send it?

Bottom line is, you didn't send it. Even if shit goes south (which it won't), the answer is "I have no idea"

[SuperJunky]

Thats what I thought but for some reason I still dont feel comfortable about the whole situation, probably just WD setting in. Oh well, if all goes well I wont have to worry about that for a couple days.

[SpecialGuy69]

Is the package overdue and that's why you are worrying?

A lot of small drug shipments that are discovered are just destroyed, I think. I know many people who have had drugs mailed but never arrive. It's also possible that people didnt send it at all and that's why those shipments didn't arrive.

When they discover drugs in the mail, it's hard to prove who's in possession. So, the LEO's do a "controlled delivery". Basically, they deliver the package as if it hasn't been discovered, while under survailaince (sp?). The idea is that the guy receiving the package will incriminate himself by opening it and using/packaging/selling it.

If I was expecting a package, and I suspected that it had been discovered by LEO's who were executing a controlled delivery, I'd treat it like any other mail, not single it out, and then act shocked when I opened it and "discovered" what was inside. Then, I'd flush it. That way, it would look like it may have been shipped to me by mistake, and my lawyer would have a good chance to beat the charge (which is coming no matter what).

[applesauce]

Yeah SuperJunky, Customs is the bitch. Domestic isn't nearly as dangerous.

Depending upon how it was shipped, you may not even have to sign (signature waived). That would be ideal, it'd just show up on the porch or in the box.

I wouldn't sweat it.

One thing - when the post man arrives, don't open the package in front of him, whip out the H and say "wanna shoot up with me, pal?" because that might raise your profile a little and get some attention. :)

[chemboy7]

The only realy tried and true method to make sure that your package is going to get from point A to point B within the US without worrying about drug drogs and what-not is USPS overnight express; it cost $14.40 but it is wll worth it. Other than that I wouldn't worry about it too much; I mean most packages mailed within the US get through even using the agencies that do sniff packages... you just can't get to everyone you know. And worse case senario they find out about it it's going to be pretty hard to impossible to prove that you requested that the package was sent to you, that's why custom's love notes always say that "they are not accusing you of any crime".

[AWOL]

The only realy tried and true method to make sure that your package is going to get from point A to point B within the US without worrying about drug drogs and what-not is USPS overnight express; it cost $14.40 but it is wll worth it. Other than that I wouldn't worry about it too much; I mean most packages mailed within the US get through even using the agencies that do sniff packages... you just can't get to everyone you know. And worse case senario they find out about it it's going to be pretty hard to impossible to prove that you requested that the package was sent to you, that's why custom's love notes always say that "they are not accusing you of any crime".


Whoa, right about that. I heard that someone overnighted a good member in need of some help a package with informational documents and the exact cost was $14.40 I hear that was yesterday.

[kyuss]

hell,I feel
nervous getting pods
in the mail.

[AWOL]

hell,I feel
nervous getting pods
in the mail.

I hear they took care so as not to even leave 1/2 a fingerprint. Walked to post office, wore a hat well low, Paid cash. and wasn't dope!! ... so I hear anyways. But then I hear all sorts of crazy stuff.

[applesauce]

The only realy tried and true method to make sure that your package is going to get from point A to point B within the US without worrying about drug drogs and what-not is USPS overnight express; it cost $14.40 but it is wll worth it. Other than that I wouldn't worry about it too much; I mean most packages mailed within the US get through even using the agencies that do sniff packages... you just can't get to everyone you know. And worse case senario they find out about it it's going to be pretty hard to impossible to prove that you requested that the package was sent to you, that's why custom's love notes always say that "they are not accusing you of any crime".


That is 100% right. SWIM uses the $14.40 option frequently. Frequently. To and Fro. They even deliver on Saturday for that same price. It can't be beat.

If you ask at the PO you can buy the ready-made pre-paid packages. That way you can just package it up and drop it into a public blue mailbox, no need to walk into a PO (in front of cameras).

I always like to go to the PO wearing Groucho glasses and a Harpo wig, because nobody notices the disguise and it helps me keep a low profile.

[SuperJunky]

Everthing went ok, and I told my friend in the future to inform me before putting drugs in the mail and sending them to me, and in the future to not put my real address as the return. Thanks for the replys.

[candyshop]

damn..all i ever get is bills--need better friends

[youwonhundred]

damn..all i ever get is bills--need better friends

Aint that the fuckin truth.

However, the few times I know of anything being sent by mail (a few tabs and a little bit of bud sent domestically) it arrived safely. Good old fashioned first class mail, in one of those padded envelopes.

[munkeemunkee]

Regarding the mail and shipping drugs into the U.S., a friend of a friend has the following experience he wanted me to share.

"For the most part, unless you're trying to import large amounts of VERY illegal stuff, customs (actually now it's Homeland Security) will just steal your shit and send you a letter telling you so...and they say that if you are legally allowed to import it, you should contact them to get it back.

This is called a Love Letter in the meds importing world and after 30 days or so, the case is closed and your confiscated pills are destroyed.


I know people who have received dozens of Love Letters in the past 5 years and there doesn't seem to be any system set up to grab repeat offenders. Technically, this is even how they're supposed to deal with Schedule I substances that are imported through the mail. A friend mailed some bud to the U.S., it got caught, destroyed and a Love Letter dispatched. No one goes to jail, no one pays a fine.

The controlled delivery is the killer, though. Unless you know you'll have to sign for a package, don't sign for it.

I've gotten Love Letters for benzos and for a codeine preparation--the dihydrocodeine made it through just fine, though."

So, those are his thoughts on the matter. If anyone has any specific questions on this topic, I can let him know.

[lucifus]

i knew of a person who used to ship lbs of mushrooms in a box with toys. he would use the mushrooms as packaging pellets, so when someone looked at it with xray or shook it , it would sound legit.

eventually he got the package sent back one time with a letter saying not to use their service for drug shipments.

[ProdigalSon]

i knew of a person who used to ship lbs of mushrooms in a box with toys. he would use the mushrooms as packaging pellets, so when someone looked at it with xray or shook it , it would sound legit.

eventually he got the package sent back one time with a letter saying not to use their service for drug shipments.


Thats a great Idea! Now everyones heard dumbass rumors never to be set straight, but Ive heard that dogs cant pick up shrooms or LSD just the same as there isnt a test for either of them. You could technically be stoned at the time of a drug test and they couldnt detect it. Me thinks its all bullshit and I would not wanna be the guinea pig that finds out, dig?

[covv799ss]

Chances are you'll be fine, especially if it was sent via USPS. Since its federal they have to abide by the constitution...no drug dogs.

[Chris_Thantos]

I umm know a guy that does something like this often - Never uses fedex or ups just 2 day priority with the USPS. As someone else said you cant control what someone else sends you no worries there. Anyway when sending with the USPS you have a 1 and 100 chance of the package being thrown out as that is how often they xray a package inside the US. It's a gamble yes but your odd are good that your package will arive without issue. Outside the country is a different story all together though. Glad it worked out for you.


KiD

[Black_Pony]

I umm know a guy that does something like this often - Never uses fedex or ups just 2 day priority with the USPS. As someone else said you cant control what someone else sends you no worries there. Anyway when sending with the USPS you have a 1 and 100 chance of the package being thrown out as that is how often they xray a package inside the US. It's a gamble yes but your odd are good that your package will arive without issue. Outside the country is a different story all together though. Glad it worked out for you.


KiD


SWIM is planning on sending a package like this tomorrow. My question is this: why not use UPS or fed ex? If USPS xrays every 1:100 then does that means UPS xrays more frequently? I was unaware that they Xray at all. I remember someone on the forum used to work for UPS, but i forgot who. If you are reading this please give me some advice.

I had convinced myself that UPS was the safest bet, but now I'm having second thoughts. It seems like a private company would be safer than a federal institution. Am I crazy?

Besides, what does a small baloon stuffed inside of a highlighter pen show up as on an Xray? Is that a huge red flag?

I get pods domestically all the time and the idiot that sends them to me does a really half ass packaging job. Like seriously bad with gaping holes and tape coming loose and seeds falling out stems sticking out, the whole nine yards. And she uses USPS... I guess SWIM will change his mind and use USPS as well.

[tonyk]

Some of you guys are totally paranoid!! I think the drugs are getting to you & fucking with your mind! Chill, everything will be cool.

[greenfox]

Lets say hypothetically that I was on vacation and a friend of mine trying to do me a favor bought a couple grams of dope, wrapped it in waxed paper, put it in a ziplocl press and seal bag, stuffed it in an envelope and sent it overnight with my real home address as the return. Am I fucked? I'm trying to not worry but its hard. Anyways, any one have some encouraging words or know a good lawyer? Or should I hypothetically just keep on truckin and head for mexico.. I read a couple other threads on similair topics but every one seemed to take some kind of precautions and hide it in some way. Any thing?

You mean you didn't get the 10,809,756 POUNDS of PURE AFGHAN HEROIN I SENT YOU!?? wow.

[greenfox]

Aint that the fuckin truth.

However, the few times I know of anything being sent by mail (a few tabs and a little bit of bud sent domestically) it arrived safely. Good old fashioned first class mail, in one of those padded envelopes.


Hey totally off topic, but youwonhundred- that little sig of yours??!? This is what I have to say to THAT, pigfucker. ;)

(AHEM!) --->

[Phoshaman]

I get pods domestically all the time and the idiot that sends them to me does a really half ass packaging job. Like seriously bad with gaping holes and tape coming loose and seeds falling out stems sticking out, the whole nine yards. And she uses USPS... I guess SWIM will change his mind and use USPS as well.

Ugh, I think we get from the same person.

When the mailman came last week he had two big Priority Mail boxes taped together very poorly and there were seeds and foliage falling out of the package as he was handing it to me. I felt like such a shadeball.

[HistoryofMadness]

USPS all the way, shorter the better, no sigs, overnight is the best bet. priority is the lowest i'll go these days.

screw UPS, FedEx, and DHL they're all under the gov... USPS on the other hand IS the gov, and as such, will do NO WORK not required... including worrying about dumb shit like "what's in here?" more like "when's my break" and "can you believe I barely worked 3 of my 8 hours today Roy?"

that's not meant to be offensive, i worked for the army for a while, i'm just talking about what i've seen

[youwonhundred]

Hey totally off topic, but youwonhundred- that little sig of yours??!? This is what I have to say to THAT, pigfucker. ;)

(AHEM!) --->

Fuckin' A! Cool as! I'm a pigfucker now?

All the same...

[milkybarkid]

Seems like this one has been beaten to death but just wanted to add an international POV,

I'm aware of a packcage that was sent from London to Cyprus the other day. It had a pair of cheap track suit bottoms in it with a couple of bags of H in the lining. I'd imagine that a carefully examined Xray would have shown them up, but it got through fine.

Anyway, SJ, sounds like you had a nice little surprise there... I wish someone would send me my favourite thing.

MBK

[Black_Pony]

Well, I did the deed. Hypothetically, of course. I went to the Post Office, grabbed a 14.40 flat rate envelope, shoved in a bunch of random shit along with the real prize. And sent 'er off to indiana.

Mind you I did not send to anyone from the board!!!!! But rather my close friend who moved out there recently and has no hooks. He is the one responsible for my current hook, in fact.

I need to vent about what a stand up guy my friend here is. When I had to move 2 hours away from our hook for work, he would go pick up for me and drive out to meet me half way just to save me time so I could get well and go back to work. This guy is a true friend! I certainly hope he is pleased with his package!

Phoshaman: We definitely have the same vendor, or they both learned how to wrap packages from the same source (ie. Helen Keller)!

[HeidiW]

I don't know how the fuck SWIM shipped a friend around 400 pills in a Harley Davidson cup last summer, wow! At least SWIM wasn't too fucked up to sign their own name and address to the package.:rolleyes::cool:

[tptptp]

SWIM is planning on sending a package like this tomorrow. My question is this: why not use UPS or fed ex? If USPS xrays every 1:100 then does that means UPS xrays more frequently? I was unaware that they Xray at all. I remember someone on the forum used to work for UPS, but i forgot who. If you are reading this please give me some advice.

I had convinced myself that UPS was the safest bet, but now I'm having second thoughts. It seems like a private company would be safer than a federal institution. Am I crazy?

Besides, what does a small baloon stuffed inside of a highlighter pen show up as on an Xray? Is that a huge red flag?

I get pods domestically all the time and the idiot that sends them to me does a really half ass packaging job. Like seriously bad with gaping holes and tape coming loose and seeds falling out stems sticking out, the whole nine yards. And she uses USPS... I guess SWIM will change his mind and use USPS as well.

When the DEA went nuts and started demanding that they get REAL stringent on package searching and demanded certain guidelines, USPS was the only one that had the balls to tell them to shove it. They also deliver packages on time unlike UPS, I havent used FedEx much but I know they always come late...could just be that my house is last on their list but even when using the expensive services that guarantee by 11am they dont show up til like 2pm...I think they are slow in general

As far as shipping drugs, I wouldnt ever risk it.....odds are it will go through but even a small percentage that it gets caught isnt worth the time your gonna do. They may just let it go through then rush your house 1 day later, if its there & opened/unused or partially used and you hadnt reported it to the police or whatever or flushed it I think you'd be found guilty...

Just because they dont have proof that you were involved in the sending of it doesnt make a huge difference, once they come after you and find the drugs its YOUR job to get a lawyer and defend yourself, innocent or not you realize how expensive a lawyer is? Unless the police do something real way off from the laws they're supposed to follow it doesnt matter if they technically had the right to rush your house, unless you have the $ and get enough media presence and even then at best the case will get dropped.

Getting arrested is fucking expensive, whether you get off or not.

[Phoshaman]

Phoshaman: We definitely have the same vendor, or they both learned how to wrap packages from the same source (ie. Helen Keller)!

More like had the same vendor. I will never use that retard again for multiple reasons:

1. The absolute worst packaging I have ever received ANYTHING in, let alone an almost illegal substance.
2. If the stems would have been shortened to even EIGHT inches then all of the pods could have fit nicely into one box and sealed shut securely.
3. The pods were filthy as hell and looked disgusting.
4. The pods were weak as hell too. 15 and I barely got warm.


I am currently seeking the ultimate vendor. Good price. Great packaging. Great quality. I can't trust these numbskulls on eBay anymore and I hate when they leave me feedback. I don't want them commenting on my profile!

[Delo]

My suggestion is send it priority overnite(Whatevers the moxt expensive and fastest), my feeling is the less time in route the less time they have to search...

[chemboy7]

My suggestion is send it priority overnite(Whatevers the moxt expensive and fastest), my feeling is the less time in route the less time they have to search...

No, fuck priority. Just like me and everyone else up there said the best (and only, unless there is no other option) should be sent USPS overnight in the flat rate envelope (that cost $14.40). trust me bro, I do alot of naughty shit through the mail and have enough love notes to where I wouldn't have to buy asswhip for the next month if I didn't want to. The only sure-fire way your getting a package from one part of the country to the next and be sure it will arive there you need to go USPS as fast as you can ship it there. Save yourself time/money/lost drugs and just take my word for it.

[Delo]

No, fuck priority. Just like me and everyone else up there said the best (and only, unless there is no other option) should be sent USPS overnight in the flat rate envelope (that cost $14.40). trust me bro, I do alot of naughty shit through the mail and have enough love notes to where I wouldn't have to buy asswhip for the next month if I didn't want to. The only sure-fire way your getting a package from one part of the country to the next and be sure it will arive there you need to go USPS as fast as you can ship it there. Save yourself time/money/lost drugs and just take my word for it.


I thought I said whatever is the most expensive, thanks for clearing it up though, will take your advice...

[madnesscult]

I actually started a thread on this several months back...but anyway, my boyfriend has been mailing me dope VERY often for several months, always overnight/express from USPS. All but 2 or 3 of the packages have arrived (and those were the first few). Here's what we do, and it always comes without fail:

1. EXPRESS AND NOT PRIORITY OR ANY OTHER (plus, you get it faster and can track it's progress)
2. Make sure that it's in some kind of metal (ie altoids tin or something). all the times it hasn't been in metal, it hasn't arrived.
3. Put a return address. It doesn't have to be legit, but the packages without a return address either didn't show up or showed up later (which was kind of shady)

On the topic of metal, like I said, altoids tins work best, but he's even packaged the dope in things like in between two silver dollars (squished flat), or surrounded by a balled-up necklace. Keep in mind, he's never sent me more than 2 grams, but except for those first few times, it's always come.

The people at the post office here are really fucking cool...one time my BF didn't get to the post office in time to get it there next-day (has to be sent out before 4pm), so it wouldn't come until a Sunday, when the post office was closed. When I explained to them that I REALLY REALLY needed that package, they told me that I could come to the back door on Sunday and grab it! After like the 5 or 6th package, I mentioned to the carriers/post office employees that I ran an ebay business, and that's why I was getting so many packages.

[Delo]

Just a question? I have been thinking that since 35mm film comes in an x-ray proof shell due to the fact that the x-ray would destroy the film then airport security would'nt see it... Any truth to this! I have also heard the tube with the lid that they come in is also x-ray proof...

This would technically also work for the MAIL...

[In The Wind]

USPS all the way, shorter the better, no sigs, overnight is the best bet. priority is the lowest i'll go these days.

screw UPS, FedEx, and DHL they're all under the gov... USPS on the other hand IS the gov, and as such, will do NO WORK not required... including worrying about dumb shit like "what's in here?" more like "when's my break" and "can you believe I barely worked 3 of my 8 hours today Roy?"

that's not meant to be offensive, i worked for the army for a while, i'm just talking about what i've seen

Oh man. Ain’t it the truth?

I agree. Usps all the way. Largest drug shipping service on the planet. Swim mails all the time, the dankest bud around, 2-4oz at a time, sometimes even gets stuff from Canada.

One of those “food saver” vacuum packagers is the best way to go. No need to use the vacuum but the plastic packaging is fantastic. I don’t use the expedited service and swim drops off packages at the post office on Mondays so they don’t sit overnight just in case…never have had a problem..