Smoking H..any special methods?

[Matul]

Heya gang-

My fiance only smokes her dope, does'nt IV it at all. She wanted me to pop on here and ask some of the 'elders' if there are any 'tricks' to smoking dope, that I don't know about.
We get the tan(ish) powder here, no tar, and she uses tin foil and a tin foil straw to draw up the smoke into her lungs.....other than that, are there any tricks or tips? ie. scraping leftovers, things to make it burn slower, etc?


be good and don't die! =)

L8R

[SpecialGuy69]

get a fancy pipe??? Dr. H recommends smoking H and says it's the safest ROA. As long as you are catching all the smoke, and holding it in as long as you can, you are doing it efficiently. Read his site to get a really good how-to on smoking H with lots of tips: www.heroinhelper.com - if you like it, give the dude a few bucks, he's had some tough times lately.

I'd be interested to see what kind of cool pipes people are using- some links, people???

[OpiBli$$1988]

blow the smoke into a ballon and re-inhale it a few times...works for pot maybe it would for H

[AWOL]

blow the smoke into a ballon and re-inhale it a few times...works for pot maybe it would for H

Pot is absorbed within like 6 seconds, holding it in like some potheads do is really dumb. I can assure you all you're doing is killing brain cells.

[OpiBli$$1988]

well then fuck no wonder im mentally retarded :(

EDIT: actully how would holding smoke in till its gone kill brain cells? i mean ppl hold their breaths under water all the time...

[slugbone]

get a fancy pipe??? Dr. H recommends smoking H and says it's the safest ROA. As long as you are catching all the smoke, and holding it in as long as you can, you are doing it efficiently. Read his site to get a really good how-to on smoking H with lots of tips: www.heroinhelper.com (http://www.heroinhelper.com) - if you like it, give the dude a few bucks, he's had some tough times lately.

I'd be interested to see what kind of cool pipes people are using- some links, people???


i love the heroin helper. some great info there, i did my first CWE off of that site. good fucking times.

[SpecialGuy69]

I don't think holding smoke in kills brain cells, but it does definitely fuck up your lungs a lot more. Put some tissues in a plastic baggie and blow smoke into it and seal it up for a few minutes. It turns brown and NASTY!!! But if you squeeze the smoke right out, its a lot less funky.

[AWOL]

I'm just saying, deprivation of oxygen. Not that the pot is killin cells.

[insaneike]

Well, don't use a glass pipe. Like a glass dick/tube or bulb that ppl use for smoking crystal/meth! After thinking "hmm, i bet i could save more with a bulb/tube cause no smoke will be missed.." so I blow a cigar tube into the shape I want and prep it. Well, it works but meh, it waists soo much! When it gets hot ti stays hot for a good lil bit! It burns way more than you want. No you can't remove heat or w/e before you're done inahling, like if u get it hot enough to get desired effects the dmn thing keeps burning and all. I dunno, if you've used one compared to foil they are crap!

Chase it on foil with a rolled up peice of foil or a rose/crack tube for a tooter or w/e... Just crease the foil and kind of make a baot type thing so it won't be able to run off the foils edges! Cause some dope liquifies badly compared to others... roll another peice of foil around a pen to make a tube. I prefer this cause if you smoke a decent bit you will have some good residue in the tube to smoke when you're done... or a rose/crack tube. And well, yeah... when u heat the dope don't like torch it, but get it pretty warm, then it should turn to a liquid of sorts depending how much dope u got on the foil, SOON as you see the powder change form ANY start inhaling! Then when it starts elting down start running it up n down the foil by tilting it, following it with a lighter underneath...

Oh, and on the end of your tubbe if you make a foil one(which u should!) make a funnel like shape to direct more vapors that could be mised into the tube. This surprisingly helps a good bit! And hold the hits in as long as you can! Not like 5secs as with say pot, but like as long as you can without like.. passing out lol. but the longer the better, but I don't know about doing this if you got some nasty cut dope? When I get the kill I hold it for a damn long while lol.

In terms of effets chasing dope is quite stronger to me. It's a much more intense and euphoric rush, lasts about the same too, there might be a 30min difference tops to me. Be careful n have fun!!! :cool:

[OpiBli$$1988]

ya kno i know this is an opiate website, but im also (well used to be mostly) a huge pothead...and well you guys probley dont kno what im talkin about..but there is a type of bong out there made for BHO (or butane honey oil) to me it seems like that would be PERFECT for smoking H...looks like a bong except instead of a bowl there is a curve that goes from the stem to the ground with a little plate under neath it...im sure if you google bho pipes or sumin u can see pics of what im talkin about...that bong is made for liquids so it seems to me that once u got the H powder down n2 a liquid it would be an ideal smoking device. Also maybe a vaporizer might work (preferably a volcano) bc it doesnt waste smoke...it heats the shit up till it smokes and then the smoke goes directly n2 a plastic bag...just my .2 cents doh. the bho bong looks kinda like this
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. . | | <--(and this would be the bongs chamber)
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^--(there would be a lil plate under that to put the H on) EDIT: when i made the pic it was perfect now that its posted its all fucked up so fuck it

[insaneike]

^^ A Vaporizer of sorts you mean? how else would u smoke hash oil? lol. Cause it's gonna be a goo when u let the butane evap off(which i hope u do lol). I sued to let the oil drip from the pipe strait into a bag of bud or on a plate of buds when I still toked... We'd take the leaves and all small stems(everything but the stalk) and make butane hash oil and let it drip onto some buds, that shit was trul some 'two-toke' bud! lol off-topic, exspeicaly since I hate weed if anything now lol.

but ya, from my experiences the hands down best and msot economical way of chasing gear is on foil!!! Theres many verteran users that will agree I'm sure... not that your idea won't work, but i"m willing to bet it won't be no more effective than foil if it's how I'm picturing it...

[OpiBli$$1988]

na ike im talkin bout a BHO bong, not a vaporizor...the BHO bong seems to me like it would be great for H.

But ya i also said a vaporizor might work...have u seen the volcano vaporizors ike? i mean the reason i was thinkin it would be more efficiant/effective is bc no smoke is lost bc it goes strait n2 a plastic bag that u can take hits from. Also u can adjust the settings on those things so u could get it rele fuckin hot when ur almost done w/ the H to totally use all of it an not waste ne H. Im curious tho ike, why would u perfer foil as opposed to the volcano? if i smoked H i certainly wouldnt want to waste ANY smoke since H is so expensive...

[insaneike]

No, don't bother with none that stuff that is like that. Do you even know how you should smoke dope? setting in one spot,g etting hot as fuck(yes, it will), not being able to run or chase, yeah, wear it out... also, a volcano vap, do u know how much would be lost via residue in that damn thing??? YOur ideas are far from practicle... it doesn't even seem like you've smoked smack before(not saying haven't!!!) lol.

and what in the world is the thing you're talking about if not a vap??? Is it not some glass bulb like thing u put your hash oil in? and then going into a bong? Such as a meth bong ... ? if it's nothing like a vap then is it burn in a regular direct flame bowl? PLEASE elaborate if theres no glass bulbs or nothing... you're not gonna want to smoke dope like the ways you're thinking!!! If you know how to do it(like i said above) you won't waist shit unless you suck like a pussy and miss all the vapors like something stupid :p hehe, if you do it like I said(dunno if i eplained it fully..?) you won't loose shit!

if it's any type of bulb type vap, anyhting with a glass bulb type thing, or anything which you've mentioned, FORGET IT! USE FOIL DUDE! haha, oh well, not like you're gonna listen...:rolleyes:

[fattyarbuckle]

Heya gang-

My fiance only smokes her dope, does'nt IV it at all. She wanted me to pop on here and ask some of the 'elders' if there are any 'tricks' to smoking dope, that I don't know about.
We get the tan(ish) powder here, no tar, and she uses tin foil and a tin foil straw to draw up the smoke into her lungs.....other than that, are there any tricks or tips? ie. scraping leftovers, things to make it burn slower, etc?


be good and don't die! =)

L8R

Thick foil (notice the holes that appear in the thinner stuff), straw slightly bigger around than a cig, about as long. Hold the foil (as per the link above) for her and make sure the foil is at an angle and remove the heat a second before she wants to stop inhaling... The whole point is to have a surface that heats/cools rapidly so as to control how long it releases smoke.

Hehehe, im trying to imagine finding someone to do that for me Poor bastard would be putting notes in the mailbox 'HELP, I AM BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY A FOIL FETISHIST, HURRY!!!. PS - MY THUMB HURTS'

[OpiBli$$1988]

nah i dont smoke H, was just think'n of ideas that might work...seemed practical to me to use a bho bong (not a meth pipe or whatever the fuck u listed above) or "maybe" a vap. Ive nvr smoked H, and used to have respect for u... thats why i asked ur opinion to see if it might work (actully i kno a bho bong would work, plus it has a water chamber so it mighta removed impuritys or something) and was simply voicing some ideas. thought u might give me a decent answer instead of some sarcastic remark..:( oh well

[applesauce]

I have a Vapir vaporizer that I bet would work perfectly. Just look up the vap point of H and mix the powder with pot or something. The Volcano is more fun and easier to use than the Vapir but the Volcano might lose a lot of the good smoke in the bag.

Just my $0.02 - I've never smoked H so I don't know.

[insaneike]

nah i dont smoke H, was just think'n of ideas that might work...seemed practical to me to use a bho bong (not a meth pipe or whatever the fuck u listed above) or "maybe" a vap. Ive nvr smoked H, and used to have respect for u... thats why i asked ur opinion to see if it might work (actully i kno a bho bong would work, plus it has a water chamber so it mighta removed impuritys or something) and was simply voicing some ideas. thought u might give me a decent answer instead of some sarcastic remark..:( oh well

Dude, you're ideas would be less effective and if anything waist more than the foil method as long as u do it like I described above... EXCUSE me for trying to enlighten someone the best way to do something and telling them what wouldn't work effectively...

and are you ever gonna elaborate wtf this hash oil bong thing is or just keep being a dick and insisting on what you're saying would be a better way? I thought I did tell ya my opinion and didn't think I did make a sracastic remark, unless I said something funny so it woudln't sound like I'm basing you. but hey, lets bitch instead! :rolleyes:

[Matul]

Thanx for all the replies gang....I was kind of hoping there was something that I never thought of that would stretch our dope and make it last longer, but it seems she is already doing it the 'best' way :)

I'm off to the store to get some THICK tin foil (we have the cheap-o generic brand and it DOES sprout holes in it) thanks again for the input gang, you all, and this site, RULE!!! (feeling good ATM:D )

be good and don't die!

L8R

[insaneike]

Oh yeah, I forgot one the most basic tips, thanks for mentioning whomever it was! Thin foil will form holes right in it that u see through. Even though if it's a last resort as long as your dope liquifies and stays in one spot it wont(which waists dope).

Tonight is gonna be my re-celebration with dope hehe, I went 3 days without even so luch as licking a stamp!!! I got a good 10 stamps left for new years! W00h00! Kill dope too(comapred to the usual), hoe you're having as much fun as we will be tonight :cool:

[OpiBli$$1988]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/476/563tml8.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=563tml8.jpg) http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5146/10704detallepipathumbsr1.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10704detallepipathumbsr1.jpg) forgot how to post pics but heres the link, the bong cost 40$. This is a bho bong, dont even kno y i bother posting it, not like you're gonna listen...:rolleyes:

"Dude, you're ideas would be less effective and if anything waist more than the foil method as long as u do it like I described above... EXCUSE me for trying to enlighten someone the best way to do something and telling them what wouldn't work effectively..." excuse me for asking an opinion :o :D

"I went 3 days without even so luch as licking a stamp!!! "- This explains it all!! for a minute i thought u were being an ass bc u lost all ur freinds or w/e but now i see! actully im glad to have seen that u went 3 days, for a minute there i thought u had turned into the pmsing 13 yr old who lives next door! :jerkoff:

haha ok im done w/ this thread, have fun smokin teh impuritys off of foil (i once heard a myth that smoking off foil makes u retarded... im finally a beliver now ike!) have fun w/ that :p

[insaneike]

Why, cause i try and help ppl? Yeah, gotcha, now get the funk up n over it son, see what u get for trying help ppl these days, they whine n bitch n whine some more :rolleyes: don't listen to what tried to say, go put your skag in a weed vape and shit, and then report back:D hehe.

and that thing u posted is something like I said, that is a vap of sorts u idiot(since we're succumbing down to name calling now). If it's not a vape wtf is it!?!? It vaporizes the shit on it! That would be HORRIBLE for dope compared to foil! A fucking bulb/tube meth pipe of sorts would be better!!! god, you just cna't understand how this works can ya boy!!?!??! haha, oh well,Once you get something as thick as that(spoon thickness it looks?) that will burn more than you want! The same principle that applies to that glass bulb/tube is the same way why that would suck compared to foil. You want something that is THIN(such as foil) that you can, well, self explanatory.

I like how this kid just DOES NOT listen and keeps on insisting on looking like a jackass hehe. Do not even reply again until you go back and READ my first few replies, you will see the things here apply to exactly wtf u just posted pics of there kid(say kid cause well, nuff said here too lol)... I like how you just wanna bitch, NOT LISTEN, and don't even fully read what I be tryin to learns you.

I can't wait to here the kids next reply of pure bitchin & moaning, not listening, and insisting on suggesting more VAPS that won't even be as efficient as chasing on foil. and i know u wont read what i said previosuly so i'll say it AGAIN, that shit heats it, it stays hot for a good lil bit, and guess waht, U CANT CHASE THE DOPE, it sits in ONE SPOT burning, and u can't inhale but so much, so your vapors are gonna miss the suction piece since you're not gonna be inhaling it all, as once that gets hot, it will get hot! some ppl :rolleyes:

[OpiBli$$1988]

just go in a room an wait till the withdraws wear off ike, its ok buddy :p

[CUBErt]

Thick foil is a good idea. The things I stress most are simmer and chase. Keep the flame at a reasonable distance so it doesn't torch it and keep the dope moving so that it doesn't get cooked up too quickly for you to catch all the smoke. I only get tar but I say time and time again if I had powder I would snort a healthy sized line and then begin my smoking as that kicked in.

[phunkypez1]

Smoking dope using glass is a pretty dumb idea, when the glass gets hot is stays hot for a long time, so your burning all your shit after you take a hit. Plus if you use a bulb you have to keep cleaning all the residue out. Thick foil is the best way to smoke H, to get the most out of your dope you have to let it "run" down the foil and chase it. It wont run in a glass bulb. Just my two pennies

[bogumil]

I can only agree with some here, who said, that keeping the somke in for as along as possible doesnt help too much. From my smoking experience after 5 seconds or so everything is in the system and keeping it in longer wont give more effects. But maybe Im wrong....

I just use the common foil-tech. I just make a big tube. I take like 2 pencils, wrap foil around them, then pull out the pencils. This way I get a tube which has a diameter of around 5mm to 1cm.

This way I get most of the smoke. Also, before I start heating the dope, I completely exhale as much as possible. Then I start heating and inhaling and then I stop heating before I stop inhaling. This helps getting all the smoke too because the dope will still give smoke for around half a second after you stopped heating it.

When you really take care to get all the smoke, then smoking the common way with a flat foil works great and I cant think of any better method. But maybe there are better metods...