New to kratom and had a few questions?

[Aerosol]

Hello, First I got a ounce of kratom a good species forgot name of it though. I plan to eat half of it and was wondering whats some good stuff to delute it with so it's easy to get down? Any idea's would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[devilsdrug]

try this utmfse by typping kratom

[chemboy7]

try this utmfse by typping kratom

Normally I would be right behind you on this one DD but for the last month or so the board has become more and more a general chat board than a source for Opaite information and it is making it increaseing more painstaking and time consuming to sift through the rif raft and actually find the information that you need. I have recently tried using the search engine on a few different occasions and noticed that I had to dig through alot more threads than I used to. That grey old mare of a search engine just aint what she used to be.

I have never had just the straight up leaf material of Kratom so I have no idea around how much you would need and am unsure exactly how you would prepare it; I would assume that you just grind it up and brew it in warm but not boiling water for 45 minutes to an hour then filter and drink just like preparing PT. That's just speculation on my part though; I have only had the resin extracts (which were all bullshit, IMO) and the 90% tinctures of the alkaloids Mitragynine and 7-Aco-Mitragynine and I didn't have to prepare either of those at all prior to ingestion.

[devilsdrug]

well i just did kratom yesterday cause i will be tryin it for the first time very soon and that one was pretty easy, basically eat it or tea , and extracts are garbage, i wiil be eating encapsulated powdered leaf, one just has to decide dose

[suboxoneeater]

Here is what I have found about Kratom.

This stuff has a ceiling limit for positive effects. Too much and you will get dissociative properties which are not functional. A few spoonfulls of the ground bali and you get a moderate, low euphoria buzz. I compare it to less than 20mg of hydro. Trying the different alkaloids in isolation may be a good way of determining what is causing the extreme ickiness.

How do I PM people? might as well askwhile I'm at it :rolleyes:

[devilsdrug]

u cant unless u donate or get 30 days 30 posts or some such shit oh shit ur an old member just not active did u try lookin in left column after hittin options

[suboxoneeater]

yeah I took a vacation from the internet for a good long while. I could have swore I made posts along time ago, but i guess not. I don't see any options so Iwill ride it out and make some posts and stay active.

I am interested in kratom alkaloids, I want to find some research chem opiates instead of phenethylamines...

[Papa Verine]

yeah I took a vacation from the internet for a good long while. I could have swore I made posts along time ago, but i guess not. I don't see any options so Iwill ride it out and make some posts and stay active.

I am interested in kratom alkaloids, I want to find some research chem opiates instead of phenethylamines...

There's A lot of info around here on Kratom alkaloids and "research chem opiates" as you put it. TRy to search around the site and read Jacky's posts.

[OxyContinuously]

Aerosol, let us know if you got a tincture. Or an extract. (5x, 10x, etc) And was it "super" or "regular" or regular dried plant material? Cause before anyone can give you an appropriate gauge for dosage, we need to know what "kind" of Kratom you got. Like you would obviously not take the same of a 20x that you would of a 5x, just an example. (ODing on Kratom is a disgusting experience)


OxyC

[Papa Verine]

Aerosol, let us know if you got a tincture. Or an extract. (5x, 10x, etc) And was it "super" or "regular" or regular dried plant material? Cause before anyone can give you an appropriate gauge for dosage, we need to know what "kind" of Kratom you got. Like you would obviously not take the same of a 20x that you would of a 5x, just an example. (ODing on Kratom is a disgusting experience)


OxyC

Hey Oxy, where have you been? I'm curious as to what you know about Kratom over-dosing. I've tried it a couple times now and the effects were pretty weak so my plan is to get a couple ounces and eat it all! I figured this is the only way to really get high with this stuff. Now I'm wondering about your line above...

[astro]

personally, i prefer to make the tea. some people would disagree, but i think the taste makes it all that much better. i usually use a couple grams (because im cheap like that) or a couple of spoonfuls per cup, but play around with it and use whatever works/tastes/feels best.
put the leaves in the water and boil the thing for 15 minutes (stirring every now and then). then pour off the liquid and drink it once it cools down. fill it up again and repeat. it's pretty simple actually and you feel the effects fairly quickly, usually by the time the second pot is done.

[OxyContinuously]

Hey Oxy, where have you been? I'm curious as to what you know about Kratom over-dosing. I've tried it a couple times now and the effects were pretty weak so my plan is to get a couple ounces and eat it all! I figured this is the only way to really get high with this stuff. Now I'm wondering about your line above...


Hey PapaV!! I've been around. last minute shit for the holidays and what not. Plus i was kinda busy recently at work, that's why I haven't been around in a few days--trying to tie together loose ends, make sure my shopping was done; you know all the usual holiday BS. (it's cool now, because I get until the second week of Jan. as vacation time) But in regards to the Kratom OD. I am not sure if I overdosed in the traditional sense of the word, but what happened is that i DEFINITELY took way more than I should have. I used the "SuperPotency" 15x extract (that's exactly how it was labeled/pitched on the place I bought it online) and they say to use no more than a gram, but since I have a high opiate tolerance, i thought it would be okay to go higher. I used 6 grams. What happened is that I didn't get anymore of the "good" effects; it just went downhill. First, i was very flushed; I felt very warm on my skin and it was irritating. My eyes were moving from side to side a la nystagmus for the duration of the experience (5 hours or so). Then there was my stomach. Nauseous wouldn't be the right word. It felt like I ate a very heavy dinner, and it was sitting there like lead. it was cramping like you have to go to the bathroom, but i didn't have to. Plus, on top of that, I got a headache from hell that 4 Advil (200mgs a piece) barely touched. I just felt generally raunchy and I could tell i overdid it, because I would experience these breif moments of syncope but I would not faint. I would just about faint, but then snap back if that makes any sense to you? It was very unpleasant to say the least, and it lasted for about 5 damn, painfully slow hours. I hope that people read this and learn from where I fucked up; but in a nutshell, Papa Ver, that's what happened. It was really gross; I wasn't in need of medical attention or anything like that, it was just gross.

Boy oh boy, DO NOT eat the ounce!! That would absolutely SUCK. I thought it was like other opiates in the sense that if you don't feel it, do more until you are satiated. Kratom seems to ceiling as far as effects, and then it's just all the "bad" side effects. And you are right, even in the right dosage, I thought it was weak; definitely inferior to any opiate, even codeine or *shudder* propoxyphene. I hope you read this before you do that, PapaV!!!!!! Oh man, would you hate life for those few hours.

OxyC

[Papa Verine]

Hey PapaV!! I've been around. last minute shit for the holidays and what not. Plus i was kinda busy recently at work, that's why I haven't been around in a few days--trying to tie together loose ends, make sure my shopping was done; you know all the usual holiday BS. (it's cool now, because I get until the second week of Jan. as vacation time) But in regards to the Kratom OD. I am not sure if I overdosed in the traditional sense of the word, but what happened is that i DEFINITELY took way more than I should have. I used the "SuperPotency" 15x extract (that's exactly how it was labeled/pitched on the place I bought it online) and they say to use no more than a gram, but since I have a high opiate tolerance, i thought it would be okay to go higher. I used 6 grams. What happened is that I didn't get anymore of the "good" effects; it just went downhill. First, i was very flushed; I felt very warm on my skin and it was irritating. My eyes were moving from side to side a la nystagmus for the duration of the experience (5 hours or so). Then there was my stomach. Nauseous wouldn't be the right word. It felt like I ate a very heavy dinner, and it was sitting there like lead. it was cramping like you have to go to the bathroom, but i didn't have to. Plus, on top of that, I got a headache from hell that 4 Advil (200mgs a piece) barely touched. I just felt generally raunchy and I could tell i overdid it, because I would experience these breif moments of syncope but I would not faint. I would just about faint, but then snap back if that makes any sense to you? It was very unpleasant to say the least, and it lasted for about 5 damn, painfully slow hours. I hope that people read this and learn from where I fucked up; but in a nutshell, Papa Ver, that's what happened. It was really gross; I wasn't in need of medical attention or anything like that, it was just gross.

Boy oh boy, DO NOT eat the ounce!! That would absolutely SUCK. I thought it was like other opiates in the sense that if you don't feel it, do more until you are satiated. Kratom seems to ceiling as far as effects, and then it's just all the "bad" side effects. And you are right, even in the right dosage, I thought it was weak; definitely inferior to any opiate, even codeine or *shudder* propoxyphene. I hope you read this before you do that, PapaV!!!!!! Oh man, would you hate life for those few hours.

OxyC

I'm going to take your word for it.

[OxyContinuously]

I'm going to take your word for it.


Cool. Boy am I glad you were ableto read this before you ate the zip!!!!! Rest assured that you will definitely save yourself some stomach lining and a throbbing headache from hell whose only cure is a .40 cal Smith&Wesson ;-)

OxyC

[Aerosol]

I got Mitragyna speciosa Kratom 1oz of the leafy stemy stuff. Not an extract.

[OhJoy]

Hopefully you have the microfine powder. You need to get a tart juice to have it with ...like pomagrante or cranberry or cherry. I take about 1-3 teaspoons of the powder and pour it in a shakeable container (that you can drink out of.) Add about 4 oz of juice and shake vigoriously. I like to make a hot cup of tea to sip with it to get maximum effect. I'm good to go for about 4 hours. Good luck

[pinion]

I ate somewhere around 20g of the premium fine commercial (TKK) coming up on about 10 hours ago now and it pretty much ruined my day. I also haven't had any significant opiates for about 48hrs so that may be part of it but somewhere around 90 minutes after I ate the powder mixed with water, I zooked my brains out after contemplating whether or not I was gonna puke for awhile. Felt quite a bit better afterwards but still felt pretty shitty all day. ~15g seems to be the ceiling for me (I've used a total of about 100G in varying doses and I'm 6'2", 180lbs) and at that dose, it's about like 30-40mg of hydro with a low tolerance.

Aside from the effects of the slight OD today, I'm not even close to feeling dopesick in spite of the (mostly) PT run I've been feeding the last few months.. I'm also noticing that although the euphoria seems fairly short lived that this stuff is pretty strong, it comes on quick and the after effects seem to linger for quite awhile..

[candyshop]

Normally I would be right behind you on this one DD but for the last month or so the board has become more and more a general chat board than a source for Opaite information and it is making it increaseing more painstaking and time consuming to sift through the rif raft and actually find the information that you need. I have recently tried using the search engine on a few different occasions and noticed that I had to dig through alot more threads than I used to. That grey old mare of a search engine just aint what she used to be.

I have never had just the straight up leaf material of Kratom so I have no idea around how much you would need and am unsure exactly how you would prepare it; I would assume that you just grind it up and brew it in warm but not boiling water for 45 minutes to an hour then filter and drink just like preparing PT. That's just speculation on my part though; I have only had the resin extracts (which were all bullshit, IMO) and the 90% tinctures of the alkaloids Mitragynine and 7-Aco-Mitragynine and I didn't have to prepare either of those at all prior to ingestion.


just wanted to point out of the 25 threads listed on active topics up front right now 24 of them are opiate related -don't think it is as bad as you think it is

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Ummm off topic but can someone please tell me what utmfse means??? Thanks..

HMSO

[chemboy7]

Ummm off topic but can someone please tell me what utmfse means??? Thanks..

HMSO

Use the motherfucking search engine

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Use the motherfucking search engine

Gracious...