Salvia Divinorum

[Chemical_Boy]

Just curious about O-phile's thoughts on this stuff. I am not sure if I like it or not, but it is definitely some weird stuff.

[oxymoron]

Sorry got say it like I feel it

[youwonhundred]

My bro swears by it, but I kinda thought it sucked.

[Curio]

wait, are we talking about "slavia" or
"salvia"

slobbarreao

[Chemical_Boy]

wait, are we talking about "slavia" or
"salvia"

slobbarreao


Oh damn it!

[I-Nod]

While on this stuff... never laughed so much in my life (about absolutely nothing!) It is some weird chit tho. Kind of strips you down to nothing but a sub-conscience. When they say you "hallucinate" on LSD, you still see the room your in and the curtains moving when they're really not... but Salvia literally made the whole room disappear into patterns and colors. Strange stuff, that divine sage is!!

[Curio]

The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 15 characters.

[jacky]

salvia divinorum is amazing.

I find it is one of the most interesting and varied plants for producing a myriad of psychoactive effects.

I know one girl that smokes it cause it feels like hydrocodone to her in small doses. sometimes I use it for leg pain.

the whole deal is knowing your optimum dose. it can be excruciatingly painful in higher doses...but even then the come down can create feelings of opiated bliss. at least I find it euphoric at times.

I am learning to produce cuttings of the plant.

I am also researching salvia nemorosa, which contains some sort of opioid type compounds.

[Curio]

I just gotta say THANK YOU
Jacky....

people like you definitely make the world a better (HAPPIER!) place!

if you weren't willing and able to take the time and study(and self-test) out of PASSION for the subject, etc...there would only be drug company scientists and accountants directing our "supplements" meds, all that...and that would be BAD NEWS, imho

[chemboy7]

I like Salvia, but it's one of those drugs that I really have to be in the mood for to want to mess around with. I have had some pretty nasty experiences with the stuff; the first time I tried it I got this fortified leaf extract (I forget the x but it was high) and I packed a fat bowl of it thinking I would puff on it for awhile and see what it was all about. That was stupid, the stuff was so dry and I inhaled so hard that nearly the whole bowl went up in that one hit. I can't explain in words any part of that expereince, but it was pure hell. It probably lasted all of a half hour but I was trapped in eternity; I have never tripped so hard in my life. When I did finally come back to reality the right side of my body was partially paralyzied for a short while and I was so freaked out that I threw the remaining vial in the trash. Having a new found respect for the sage I retrieved it the next day. Turns out just a pinch, like the amount of ash you flick off a cigarrette, was more than enough to do the trick.

It reminds me alot of DMT/5-Meo-DMT, but it's different. It blast you out of reality like a cannon in the same manor but it takes you to a different realm, it's not the familiar Phenethylamine/Tryptamine network... it's alien but not familiarly alien. I think that Salvia also lacks the insight of the traditional Phen./Trypt. psychedelics, there's no sense of revelation or analyzation; I don't think it would be as great a tool for personal exploration than the traditional psychedelics... more dissociative than enlightening. I have gotten to the point now to where I only want to do Salvia in large doses; completely lose touch with reality. It's a mind-fuck drug, kinda like the horror movie kinda dope. But I like scary movies every once in awhile. It make's everything, including yourself, dissolve, and then after that it's just impossible to explain. More times than not it isn't that pleasant, but I always come out of the experience impressed. I have also noticed that whenever I smoke Salvia that right when it's coming on it kinda pulls you down and to the right, like your spiraling down into your sofa. It's an interesting drug but not one that I think most people would be into.

[mrrice11]

Thought it would be pretty sweet and heard nothing but good about it before i ever tried it. so some buddy calls me up says he ordered an ounce in the mail of the shit, so im like okay. sold me about an 1/8 of the shit. i was soo pumped to trip and had no clue at all how it acted. so i pulled my car into a park/recreation area with a big parking lot and surrounded by trees, i great place to do dugs and drug deals. so im sittin in my car and i researched how your supposed to smoke it, cuz if you just smoke it like weed it dont work, you gotta take the biggest possible hit and hold it in for as long as you can and then emediatly take another, and another depending on how strong, so i got this little bowl and i take my first hit and wasnt expecting it to burn so fast so i took a whole bowl in one hit and repeated this, all the sudden im lookin out into the woods and i cant move my body at all, it felt like i left the world, like i had no control over anything like i went into a bad dream. as soon as a came down about 20 minutes later i got the fuck out of there, that shit freaked me the hell out. the next few times i tried it i thought it might be better, but nope! same shit where i cant move, cant do anything but stare and feel terrible like a nightmare i cant get out of, fuck that shit! id rathe eat shrooms or trip acid, atleast you cant still function

[Papa Verine]

I'll take some! Yeah, I like it, it's like an adventure. Every now and then I eat some shrooms or even a few hundred mg's of DXM as well. I still enjoy psychedelics. I can't make a regular habit out of them any more but I like to take little trips here and there.

[HistoryofMadness]

I like it in small doses, it changes my experience and perspective, and makes my hands and feet feel like balloons. I've never gone gung-ho and gotten lost in some world I didn't like, but I've definitely been places and seen things.

You really gotta make an effort to put yourself in the right environment and mindset to enjoy, and I like it as part of my rest/meditate/sleep herb formula - one step in a long process.

[SuperJunky]

I've smoked comercial leaf and got only auditory affects. Then I tried 15x ethanol based extract. It burned my mouth like hot food and created some strange feelings but not a full on trip. Then I soaked some buds in it and smoked tose when they dried. That was extremly nice, a couple small hits produced a really strong pot like stoned high but 3 large hits would give me a full on dissasociative high with minor visuals and major auditory warping. I found it insightful, but if I'm in the right state of mind I can get a really warped semi-psychadelic thing going on with booze, benzos, weed, benadryl, tramadol and smack.

On one ocassion I put a few milligrams of DMT on top of a couple hits of the salvia soaked weed and that was insane, it was far more intense than 25 or 20 mg's of dmt smoked on it's own, and that small amount of DMT on top of weed would usually just give me the triptamine giglies but together it was much different. It started like a normal DMT trip, which I wasn't really expecting with only 4 or 5 mgs. I took 3 big hits and held it, the last one I took was by feel, I couldn't see. After I made it to hyperspace it was completly foreign. I don't know how to explain it but it was wierd, like K w/out the extreme euphoria. It wasn't scary, everything I saw before I lost sight warpped around, no "intelligent" life forms, just a strange land with a bunch of weird metaphors attatched to everything I saw, almost like there were little boxes with a description of it's meaning and numbers refering to the memory that created it attatched to each thing, from wierd sculptures to messed up looking plants, rivers, sea shells and artificial skeletons. When I came down I was so tired I could barely keep my eyes open. I put 20mgs of oxy up my nose which actually woke me up some but I went on the nod really hard. I didn't have a huge tolerance at the time but I got a much stronger buzz than normal for that dose, and oxy never made me nod on it's own, always more of a rushing dopamine high for me.

I've noticed DMT can block WD for a short time, and I've had salvia (commercial Leaf) go either way when I'm sick. It made me feel better twice but on try three (all seperate occasions, weeks and months apart) It made me much sicker.

WoW, I'm really ramblin, somethins been wrong with the dope the last couple days, my heads so foggy.

Definitely not a substance to be taken lightly, you never really know whats gonna happen and it doesn't work the way you think it would when you combine it with other drugs. Even my high dose kava + Salvia experiment was twisted. I'll post that one when I can think somwhat straight again.

[Dilaudid]

It reminds me alot of DMT/5-Meo-DMT, but it's different. It blast you out of reality like a cannon in the same manor but it takes you to a different realm, it's not the familiar Phenethylamine/Tryptamine network... it's alien but not familiarly alien. I think that Salvia also lacks the insight of the traditional Phen./Trypt. psychedelics, there's no sense of revelation or analyzation; I don't think it would be as great a tool for personal exploration than the traditional psychedelics... more dissociative than enlightening. I have gotten to the point now to where I only want to do Salvia in large doses; completely lose touch with reality. It's a mind-fuck drug, kinda like the horror movie kinda dope. But I like scary movies every once in awhile. It make's everything, including yourself, dissolve, and then after that it's just impossible to explain. More times than not it isn't that pleasant, but I always come out of the experience impressed. I have also noticed that whenever I smoke Salvia that right when it's coming on it kinda pulls you down and to the right, like your spiraling down into your sofa. It's an interesting drug but not one that I think most people would be into.

Salvia divinorum is a powerfull and strange psycedelic, Salvia give me a lot of insight, revelations and self-analyse.
Yes Salvia is a mind fuck drug like dissociatives.
Definitely not a party drug. Choose a good set and setting.
The combo DMT/Salvia is incredible.

[kyuss]

definitely
a mindfucker

http://www.geocities.com/the_undermined/used/broodwich.jpg

[Chemical_Boy]

^^^^That picture sums it up nicely Kyuss.
It has been a long time since I had any of the more traditional psychedelics like psilosybin or LSD and I had the itch, so I went down to my local headshop and procured a couple of different brands of 10X (I had tried dried leaf 8 or 10 years ago with no effect). I made a little home-made bong and got out the first brand of 10X. I loaded the bowl and began taking little puffs- though I was skeptical I also didn't want to be unexpectedly blasted into hyperspace. After reading about that kind of thing on Erowid, I figured I had better be careful.
After puffing small puffs a few times, I realized that things were taking on a distinctly psychedelic familiarity. I puffed a few more times and sat back to enjoy the view. There was a certain amount of LSD-like "crawling" going on in my vision. This lasted maybe five or ten minutes. This was also the only time I have had Salvia remind me- even vaguely- of another psychedelic like LSD. I continued with that brand for a while and had experiences far more like Ketamine in that I was very heavy and more disassociated than anything, though that is where the similarities stopped. It was more visually active than K. I eventually finished that brand and, though I was surprised that there really was an honest-to-god psychedelic potency to the stuff, wasn't all that impressed.
Having nothing to do, I busted out the other brand of 10X and loaded a one hitter of the stuff. I put the flame to it and took the one hit. 10 minutes later I realized that I was laying on the ground coming out of some insane parallel universe. No way to accurately describe the experience- you know what I mean if you have been there. How do you describe green to someone who has never been able to see? I could not believe the potency of the stuff! It was a tiny little amount that wrecked my whole reality.
I never had the pleasure of coming across any of the Ps and Ts in PiHKAL or TiHKAL, buy I think that I can at least understand what is meant by the "shot out of a cannon" launch into another reality. I would love to take a puff of this while on a moderate dose of LSD to see what kind of reality bending headchange that would bring on. I used to enjoy K while tripping do to the synergistic effects of the two (I found that combo much more user friendly than the Acid/MDMA combo). I imagine that Salvia and acid could be a scary trip, but as Chem said, I enjoy a horror movie once in a while.

[candyshop]

i spend much of my life trying to AVOID hallucinating-reality is plenty tenuous for me as it is

[nick]

tenuous don't you mean tedious?Sorry CS It's my British sense of humour again.Hope reality is looking up for you.

[insaneike]

The stuff is FAR from fun if you ask me. It's for spiritual use only I think! I've got two Sally D.(salvia divinorum) plants growing as part of my botanical garden. They were grown from cuttings. I made an extract from my first and only harvest from them, the shit will TEAR YOU into a whole other word! Literaly... unlike the trip you get with LSD or Mescal, not even like DMT/Ayahuasca... Like it's just different some how. Not half as fun as acid or mescal, and just fucked up. It also makes my body temp raise like a hundred degrees it feels and extreme itchyness and uncomfortable-ness! Also feels like you're just flying through a tunnle on a roller coaster x10 just spinning around. Like you know how it feels when you're REALLY dizzy? it's like that x10 and COMPLETE visual loos into a world of colors n patterns. It's kind of like you start living a whole other life, see stuff from another view, and just in a completely different world and conciousness. Then when I'm about to figure something out about this new world WHAM, right back to base line/sobriety!

I've only really gone out there on it like 3 or 4 times, and don't plan to again anytime soon. As I have no reason to, as I can not see using this stuff recreationaly or like a psychadelic that would be fun to trip on at concerts n shit like mushrooms are. Hell shrooms and/or E is my concert drug!!! I must trip out at good concerts! I don't see how this stuff could be fun, bu everyone is different :p

[candyshop]

tenuous don't you mean tedious?Sorry CS It's my British sense of humour again.Hope reality is looking up for you.


actually either would apply---british humor works for me ,american humor seems mainly to consist of fart references and persons getting hit in the balls-if i ever get the fuck out of here ,(and i will), americas funniest home videos will be on the (massive) list of things that drove me away