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SpecialGuy69
12-21-2006, 11:01 PM
I just found out about this shit tonight. I'm waaay behind the times, as usual, but this shit just made my fucking blood boil. The DEA has, once again, fucked over a great man in the name of the war on drugs. This is no ordianry fuck-over, though. This is a FUCK-OVER on the largest of all scales.

William Leonard Pickard (not the star trek captian, dumbasses). 'sauce, I'm sure you're familiar. The dude gets set up by some scumbag methhead and gets pinned with producing 95% of American and European LSD.

Check out the facts. It's FUCKED. I'm livid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard
http://www.freepickard.org/

poor dude. Let him out. Where the fuck is Abbie Hoffman when you need him? (dead, I know) anyways, you can send him emails from the freepickard site. You can also read through their list of questions and see if you know anything that might help his defense. Ask your friends. Ask connected people. And let's show this guy some polydrug opiophile support (probably don't want to mention the site as his email is SURELY being monitored), he doesn't deserve to be FUCKED by the DEA like so many of our friends, family, brothers and sisters.

kyuss
12-21-2006, 11:40 PM
Yeah,Warm Cyanide
posted about this
a few months back

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=3665

and it is
fucked up

robojunkie
12-21-2006, 11:45 PM
2 fucking life sentencing for making a mind-expanding non-addictive drug:mad::mad::mad: I wish I could just be fucking Superman (the comic guy, not the o-phile) for a day and with my infinite strength free all drug war prisoners and force the UN/gov/states and everthing else to accept the right of "freedom of consciousness" I hate this shit it just gets worse and worse...55 years for 8z of pot, life for dirty pot test on probation, 25 years for like 100 oxycodones...(other examples, many, many more). We are the last legally, socially and economically persecuted minority left in this country and its like we as a group take the hit for all the other groups it is not longer acceptable (good thing) to legally persecute. Land of the free my ass! My home, my body, my mind, my business. Period. Because of the war on drugs and its draconian shredding of peoples lives I have lost all respect for society, even am disgusted with it. Any tyranny, including a tyranny of the so-called majority, always needs a scapegoat (just look at history) and we have been it for 90 years. The founders of this country, whatever their flaws (racism, classism, sexism, etc.) would be appalled at the drug war atrocities. At least their charging the deposed Thai PM with murder and crimes against humanity for his policy of hanging several thousand drug dealers/users.

nick
12-22-2006, 07:34 AM
Yeah this is a good example of drug war hysteria.The sentance doesn't reflect the crime,but is meant as a warning to others.Fuck with LSD and we'll look after your room and board for life.
No wonder Owsley now works on a sheep farm in Australia.
Look on the bright side there's at least one LSD chemist still out there working.

SpecialGuy69
12-22-2006, 07:40 AM
I can't handle LSD anymore. But, this guy got fucked by the government- they didn't give him due process at all- wittnesses that weren't cross-examined, inexperienced DEA chemists, weighing the total dilute solution instead of the pure LSD (hence the claims of 97 lbs, or 2 billion doses) and lots more. This guy was FUCKED by the DEA for what amounts to a "safe" drug. If you got caught with a few bales of weed, you wouldn't get a life sentence (especially without the chance to properly put on your legal defense), so why should he?

tptptp
12-22-2006, 11:59 AM
I dunno, they've never tkane LSD lightly. If he is innocent that really sucks. If hes guilty? It sucks but when you engage in a illegal enterprise its risk vs reward. If he really was producing 100 mil in lsd every 5 weeks well then what can I say....I don't agree with the war on drugs in the least but if you go into something illegal with the intent of making a shitload of $$$$ watch out....

If im correct selling LSD in MD amounts to a manslaughter charge? I dont know why, but I'm sure he knew the illegalities before going into it.

SpecialGuy69
12-22-2006, 01:24 PM
tptptp- yeah, I don't think anyone really honestly believes the guy has never manufactured lsd, but the point is he wasn't allowed to present a competent legal defense. The DEA came up with their crazy numbers like they always do. For example- if you got caught with 1 ounce of heroin (28 grams)... In reality, the average bag would be about 100mg. So that would be 280 bags, at $20/bag, it's worth 6000- in reality, more like 5 grand after shortages, doing some, etc...

BUT... the DEA would say the average bag was 30mg or 840 bags (once cut) and sold for $50 each, so it would be 42k, which they would round up to $50,000! So, they'll take a $5k bust and turn it into a $50k bust. It's even worse in this case because it was LSD diluted into precursor chems, so it was really 200grams of LSD diluted into 97lbs of other shit.

The point is, he got FUCKED. If you read the website, you'll be PISSED! and no all the stuff about attempted manslaughter or attempting to overthrow the govt. or 7 hits=legally insane or the glass of oj bad trip... it's all bullshit, probably put out there by the DEA. Exaggeration, Persecution, and Silence. The dea's 3 -pronged strategy.

zombiewoof23
12-22-2006, 01:40 PM
I remember when this happened. This was when I was on my last tour and the shock was felt all over the lot scene all around the US. The quality and quantity of L diminished significantly after this and prices went up. That was the exact time I took my hiatus from tripping. The family crystal never disappeard, but it is way harder for the majority of ppl to get ahold of anyway.

Here is another pioneer/rebel thats story always intrigued me. He is forever a part of American history. He got popped a couple of times, but 3 years was the most he ever got.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owsley_Stanley

And yet another rebel who always had an interesting history to me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey

kyuss
12-22-2006, 01:43 PM
I remember when this happened. This was when I was on my last tour and the shock was felt all over the lot scene all around the US. The quality and quantity of L diminished significantly after this and prices went up. That was the exact time I took my hiatus from tripping. The family crystal never disappeard, but it is way harder for the majority of ppl to get ahold of anyway.

Here is another pioneer/rebel thats story always intrigued me. He is forever a part of American history. He got popped a couple of times, but 3 years was the most he ever got.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owsley_Stanley

And yet another rebel who always had an interesting history to me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey


Nice.
I'd add
Timothy Leary
to that list.

SpecialGuy69
12-22-2006, 01:58 PM
When I was like 23 or 24, I went to a baseball game with a few of my dad's college roommates. He was 20 or so right around 72, and these guys told me some fuckin wild stories. They got to go to acid tests (owsley's), meet abbie hoffman, ride with the merry pranksters, all kinds of shit. These guys used to be pretty far out, and now they have come back. Most of them are ceo's now.

zombiewoof23
12-22-2006, 04:28 PM
When I was like 23 or 24, I went to a baseball game with a few of my dad's college roommates. He was 20 or so right around 72, and these guys told me some fuckin wild stories. They got to go to acid tests (owsley's), meet abbie hoffman, ride with the merry pranksters, all kinds of shit. These guys used to be pretty far out, and now they have come back. Most of them are ceo's now.

The Acid Tests were in 1965ish and the pranksters traveled around quite a bit until woodstock in 1969. I got to meet Wavy Gravy a few years ago, same year I met Robert Hunter. Wavy Gravy was out promoting his Ben & Jerry's ice cream flavor and signing autographs. Hunter was in a CD store and we were both looking at Dylan albums at the same time. I was the only one who recognized him and ended up getting to talk about Dylan with him, who is a close friend of his, and I also walked away with his autograph. I posted the Hunter story on here before. He has two songs that he wrote for Dylan albums, Silvio and Ugliest Girl in the World. Dylan still plays Silvio live quite a bit. Hunter also volunteered to be a part of the CIA's MKULTRA program along side of Ken Kesey back in 1962. Could you imagine getting paid by the gov't to take LSD, psilocybin, and mescaline? It would be scary as hell though in a research facility and not knowing what psychedelics even are, or what dose they are giving you since it was experimental. Enter One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

nick
12-22-2006, 04:33 PM
tptptp- yeah, I don't think anyone really honestly believes the guy has never manufactured lsd, but the point is he wasn't allowed to present a competent legal defense. The DEA came up with their crazy numbers like they always do. For example- if you got caught with 1 ounce of heroin (28 grams)... In reality, the average bag would be about 100mg. So that would be 280 bags, at $20/bag, it's worth 6000- in reality, more like 5 grand after shortages, doing some, etc...

BUT... the DEA would say the average bag was 30mg or 840 bags (once cut) and sold for $50 each, so it would be 42k, which they would round up to $50,000! So, they'll take a $5k bust and turn it into a $50k bust. It's even worse in this case because it was LSD diluted into precursor chems, so it was really 200grams of LSD diluted into 97lbs of other shit.

The point is, he got FUCKED. If you read the website, you'll be PISSED! and no all the stuff about attempted manslaughter or attempting to overthrow the govt. or 7 hits=legally insane or the glass of oj bad trip... it's all bullshit, probably put out there by the DEA. Exaggeration, Persecution, and Silence. The dea's 3 -pronged strategy.
Nevermind sending him to jail for making acid .I'd have given him a medal.

tptptp
12-22-2006, 09:32 PM
tptptp- yeah, I don't think anyone really honestly believes the guy has never manufactured lsd, but the point is he wasn't allowed to present a competent legal defense. The DEA came up with their crazy numbers like they always do. For example- if you got caught with 1 ounce of heroin (28 grams)... In reality, the average bag would be about 100mg. So that would be 280 bags, at $20/bag, it's worth 6000- in reality, more like 5 grand after shortages, doing some, etc...

BUT... the DEA would say the average bag was 30mg or 840 bags (once cut) and sold for $50 each, so it would be 42k, which they would round up to $50,000! So, they'll take a $5k bust and turn it into a $50k bust. It's even worse in this case because it was LSD diluted into precursor chems, so it was really 200grams of LSD diluted into 97lbs of other shit.

The point is, he got FUCKED. If you read the website, you'll be PISSED! and no all the stuff about attempted manslaughter or attempting to overthrow the govt. or 7 hits=legally insane or the glass of oj bad trip... it's all bullshit, probably put out there by the DEA. Exaggeration, Persecution, and Silence. The dea's 3 -pronged strategy.

Yeah well I dont know the story behind it and I have no doubt the DEA tried to soup things up. It sucks sure but when you manufacture drugs you are just asking for it. I mean even if the shit only had a 5,000$ value every 5 weeks his ass was gonna do a few years minimum.

I dont know the details behind it, regardless though the DEA is a waste of time and money so many people rotting in jails instead of focusing ALL their efforts on violent criminals, serial killers whatever imagine all that manpower focused on real criminals...whoa, this would be such a safe country.......who knows maybe they needed to make people feel powerful, competent, and give them jobs and brainwashed them so theyd feel they have meaning so these chronies wouldnt run us into poverty, who knows....fuckers

I mean we all know the CIA is turning around and making a profit off of it. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to know that, seems like common sense. I mean wtf do you think they are doing with all these drugs they seize? It would be RUIN to NOT turn around and profit off them, billions and billions upon billions of profit, and in the process the property they repo probably breaks them even before that profit.....I've heard some nonsense about them using it some other way I can't forget, I sure as hell dont buy it, thats all it is as I see it, nonsense.

Narkotikon
12-22-2006, 10:32 PM
I'm still betting on the whole Matrix theory, that this reality is just some fucked up electro-chemical induced dream, and I'm really in some cocoon being used as a human battery, hoping that some Morpheus will wake me up and save me. God I'm pathetic. And yes, this does suck.