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jerets

12-21-2006, 12:45 PM

SpecialGuy69

12-21-2006, 12:54 PM

steer clear. You have a very low tolerance and you will most likely OD and die. I don't have time to tell you why, just don't be a retard. That's like going from caffiene to crack.

mrrice11

12-21-2006, 12:56 PM

If your only doin vic's and if only 15 mg of oxy gets you good then jumping to fent is pretty big, especially when its mixed with H, thats fucking nuts for someone who only does vics and a little oxy. if your gonna try the stuff that your friend has i would only snort tiny bumps untill you start to feel it and then back off and see how it is. if you get real fent thats not cut into H, like fent patches then you can smoke that shit in small amounts, you could smoke the stuff that your friends has but i would not try it....if you really wanna do it just try a little bump or 2 and see if you feel it. im sure someone else has better info than me but thats what i would try....def dont try somthing new and huge without any advice always be save and start with very very small amounts and see how it makes you feel before you take more!

sk8opium

12-21-2006, 01:04 PM

yeah, dont do it. Fent is a dangerouse mix with H. I assume you're talking about the H that has the fent in it? Definate no no.

Personally when my doctor put me on the fent patches I started at 25 and worked up to 75 (when it still didn't help the pain I switched meds completely). If youre on light meds now you should probably not make a big jump without building up a tolorance first...ie, do it through your doctor. A lot of people on here are super knowledgable about this stuf but you dont sound like a big junky, so your dr. could probably give you the best advice.

Peace...be safe!

red26

12-21-2006, 01:15 PM

thats playin with fire and you'll burn out real quick. If you absolutly have to do it(and you should'nt) smoke it. Like a third of a match head size, but I wouldnt if I was you. That shits been killing alot of people, and you want to take the chance to be next!?! :(

OxyContinuously

12-21-2006, 01:18 PM

Hello,
I am very scared about trying fentanyl. Is it similar to morphine? I currently use vicodin 15-20mg daily and on occasion nasal 15mg Oxycontin. I've been doing this with occasional days off from both for about 6 months now. I keep my tolerance down with magnesium suppliments and ginkgo biloba. My friend has several 100% fentanyl h-bags. I am curious to try one but I will absolutely not use heroin ever! So I am curious if this is a big leap. I do not know much about fentanyl
thanks
jerets

Here is a little advice from someone with a LOT of experience. To answer your first question, yes Fentanyl is similar to morphine in the sense that they are both powerful opiate agonists. That is where it ends. Fentanyl is an order of magnitude stronger than morphine, both from a pain-killing point of view and also, very importantly, from a side effects point of view. What I am referring to specifically, is the respiratory depression. With Fentanyl, in particular, there is a very real danger of overdosing regardless of the route of ingestion (eating the gel, smoking it, drying it up and snorting it, or in your case pure powder) because it is so strong. To give you an idea, Fentanyl is EASILY 50 times as potent as regular heroin (diacetylmorphine) and many times more potent than Vicodin (hydrocodone).
You say that your daily intake of hydrocodone is around 15-20mgs? I would advise you very strongly, to be extremely careful with the amount of Fentanyl you use. If the bags are 100% "Fent," that means that you need a very very very small amount to get going. Your tolerance is very small, and it would be best NOT to delve into the Fentanyl right away for safety/breathing/OD reasons, and the other one that your tolerance will skyrocket, and I mean skyrocket with use of Fent coming straight from hydro. The problem with fentanyls is that they are very potent, they are very quick acting, but overdoses can be fatal (compared to some heroin OD's where the person can be roused with Narcan or naloxone, etc.) You don't get that chance with Fentanyl. You do have SOME tolerance and experience with opiates which definitely helps.
Now to the good part. Your friend has the 100% bags, but even knowing that, it is impossible for anyone to be able to tell you how much to "do." I can definitely give you some guidelines, however. OK. Your hydro tolerance is 20mgs per day. In Fentanyl terms, that is equal to about 50mcg (micrograms NOT milligrams; to give you a better idea, 50 micrograms is 50 millionths of a gram. 50 milligrams is one twentieth of a gram--->see the potency issue?) It is very hard to measure substances when they are not pharmaceuticals with a label on them. The best thing for you to do would be to ask a lot of questions. Did other ppl do this? If so, how much did they do? Did they have tolerances to other narcotics? Did they sniff it? Smoke it? How much did they use? A coke "bump?" A pure crystal meth "bump?" (which will be minute compared to the coke bump) What were the general reactions and or feedback? You know, try to get an idea of what you are getting into. Pure fentanyl is a dangerous thing. Be extremely careful, and remember with this one especially, "less is more." If you can't ask those questions, or if there is not a lot of feedback, then i would suggest you bump a TINY amount, wait about fifteen SOLID minutes and assess how you feel. Remember, if it's pure Fent, we are dealing with micrograms here, so please please do not rail it like coke. (Keep in mind that a safe dose for you considering your tolerance and such would be around 50 micrograms playing it safe--> also note that weight-wise, one single tiny little shitass grain of table salt weighs around 60micrograms. Be very very careful. That's the best I can do without being there with you, looking at it, and what not. If you have access to a scale...you know what? scratch that. A microgram scale could cost thousands of dollars. Try to at least get a qualitative estimate of how much the bags weigh (substance wise) and proceed with caution from there. Remember, with Fentanyl---------->less is more<-----------Start small and work up. Don't start big and OD. Hope this helps you out a bit.

OxyC

sk8opium

12-21-2006, 01:26 PM

Plus...it makes your dick not work. At least fr me...it was the opiate that effected my sex life the most. I was on if for a few months, ad luckily my doc gave my viagra. That was fun...but i swaer to god, one night i took an antire V pill and was still as limp as a noodle!

OxyContinuously

12-21-2006, 01:38 PM

insaneike

12-21-2006, 02:00 PM

no no no!

Seriosuly dude... now at first I was thinking you was meaning the fent PATCHES, and I was gonna give good advice on how you could safely use them(for the most part :p ), but with a fent/h mix, fuck that!

Dude, if you can feel 15mg of oxy DONT START DOING FENT LACED DOPE! Jesus... but fi you MUST get high and you must get the euphoria from h do TINE LIL bumps or hits. I don't know if u shoot or not so... ya. If you shoot do like. make about 30 'shots' out of a bag if u get off from 15mg oxy, or did u say 15mg lortab has an effect on you???

Sorry, i'm gonna stay out of this one, I honestly do not condone in this thing. but I'm not one to talk lol, but you know...

hitnrun

12-23-2006, 05:12 PM

Just like everyone else said, be VERY careful. SWIM has a hefty tolerance (about 320mg+ oxy/day snorted and percs...takes him at least a whole 80mg oxy to get off) and smoking dried fent...an amount about half the size of a pencil eraser...maybe a little smaller...put him on his ass. The fent came from a 75mcg/hr gel patch. With a tolerance as low as yours, I really wouldn't even try it. If someone with your tolerance were to try it, they should start with an amount so small you can hardly see it, wait 15-20 mins, try a TINY BIT more, wait 15-20 mins, lather, rinse, repeat. My recommendation, and only advice (the preceding statements shouldn't be taken as advice, just for learning purposes), though, is not to try it at all. Good luck and don't be stupid man, it's not worth your life to get a nod! People die from this shit!

Powdered Love

12-23-2006, 10:18 PM

fent is not for the occasional chipper. which is what I am assuming that your are from your comments. first of all, it's way stronger than anything you're used to.. so ODing is a very real possibility... and it also TOTALLY rapes your tolerance levels. After using fent for a small period of time, you won't be able to get off on small doses of hydro or oxy anymore. be careful bro.

kyuss

12-23-2006, 10:22 PM

Big leap.
Like Quantum Leap.

SomniGod

12-25-2006, 03:06 AM

I'm not gonna write a big piece....everyone has said it....and they are NOT kidding. That's a HUGE jump and VERY close to H...cuz after a come down froma 3-day fenny run.....well, you WILL do H to keep from feelin as sick as fenny will make you. I am glad to see that you are a successful 'weekend warrior' (do dope for a few days then quit)....it's the GREATEST way to live on opiates recreationally. Keep your distaste for H....that can only serve you well. Keep your tolerance down...it helps not only financially, but keeps your life much easier to manage. I thik you've goot it right...just steer clear of HARD core shit....fentanyl, H, M....don't smoke your OC80's...i think you'll be ok. Have fun!

~S~