Do we need a Cocaine/Amphetamines Forum?

[bi11i]

We've typically moved these posts into 'Other Drugs', but with all the speedballers out there....?

[zombiewoof23]

We've typically moved these posts into 'Other Drugs', but with all the speedballers out there....?

It seems that many people in the opiate scene also either have current or past experience with Amphetamines and/or cocaine. IMO we could dig a little deeper into the speedball realm in opiophile tradition of research and harm reduction.

I'm all for having an additional forum for personal experiences, Q&A's, and additional research. I found Karen's recent post about cocaine/heroin in regards to brain chemistry very interesting and informative. This is definitely a subject that we could dig a little deeper on. I am presribed amphetamines, so it is definitely an area I'd personally like to see covered.

[flipside]

That's very kind of you to offer Billi, but you've got enough work on your hands right now with the site. I think the other drug forums will be fine for a while...

Unless it would not require a lot of extra work for you right now.. sure, I think it's a great idea.

Always on his toes that Billi;) Thanks again!

[greenfox]

Jerry said it best: SPEED KILLS! The hippie addage is true!

[SpecialGuy69]

if it's not too much extra work. If it was something I knew more about, I'd offer my assistance, but I really dont know any more about blow than the next guy. But I do think there's certainly enough posts on the topic to warrant a subsection.

[Paregoric Kid]

sounds great! it's a hobby many of us opiophiles enjoy and also relevant for it's analgesic properties and potentiation it has. it's also prescribed to alleviate drowsiness caused by opiates. there is even an opioid and amphetamine in one chemical called lefetamine, I recently posted about this.

[devilsdrug]

sure the more the merrier

[sk8opium]

Being that a lot of people like mixing the 2, I would say yes. If simply for harm reduction, I think it would be of great benifit.

A lot of bad things happen because of mixing coke and opiates...I know from personal experience. The more educated peopke are on the subject...the better.

So I say do it.

[OxyContinuously]

i know a lot about blow and do it all the time. i would be happy to help with whatever; moderation and whatever else. Let me know, bi11i.

OxyC

[Chipper]

Stimulants seem to be getting more popular, day by day. It's on all the media, downunder is experiencing a methamphetamine "epidemic", as they call it.

"YES" is my vote!

[lolleedee]

"Two very enthusiastic thumbs up!"

[Alice Mudgarden]

That would be cool. It seems like opiate users also like their stimulants, for the most part. SWIM, when he had no access to opiates, went on cocaine binges. SWIM likes to alternate periods of heavy opiate use and heavy coke use. Plus, as someone mentioned above, we can share info on mixing the two drugs.

[insaneike]

I think it'd be pretty smooth for a Cocaine one... and maybe a Meth/Amphetamine if theres enough speed users here... but as far as amphetamines go isn't all amps ppl get just addies, dexies, and shit? just make like a 'misc. pharms' seciton for all other pharms, i dunno lol. I'm no meth/amp lover... though i do love the blow!!! i say give what the ppl want!:cool:

[suboxoneeater]

Lets weigh 2 different possibilities. One) You have unlimited supplies of amphetamines.
Two) you have unlimited supplies of opiates.

The type of amphetamine is not extremely long lasting, such as methamphetamine, and the opiate is codeine.

Which one would you quit first? Obviously the amphetamine. I am in a situation where I have unlimited access to an amphetamine, and I quit after I realized the sides were not worth dealing with.

Now if i can figure out a way to get unlimited access to opiates and I'm all set. Neurotoxicity/Cardiotoxicity makes amphetamines an unattractive lifestyle drug.
To each his own though, i'll get off my horse.:rolleyes:

[Ickyuck]

Well I haven't really read through this entire thread, but I'd like to see a little seperate forum. Where can I turn to when I have questions? :P

[Narkotikon]

Like Flip said, I think the OD part is good enough for now. To be honest, I already thought we had seperate forums for those other drugs. I don't do coke a lot, and meth hardly ever, so it really doesn't matter to me. But I can see it being helpful for the speedballers, safety first and stuff.

[satori]

YEs we do.//....

[jbeach1269]

So, I'm suppose to be 100% off the site. And may actually end up being gone a little while or even a long time, when the family's all home and watching me, like a hawk. But I feel like you ppl are the ones that understand and can help more than any others (that love me or only know what they read in a book). You know, most members here have the "been there, done that"-type advice....


Ive been there.. Lived with Family for 6 months when I moved to KNoxville.. They used to watch every move I made. If I was in the bathroom too long oe of them would come bang on the door to see whats up. Constently searching my room opening mail and all kinds of other shit.. I felt like a 15 year old kind

[jbeach1269]

"So, I'm suppose to be 100% off the site. And may actually end up being gone a little while or even a long time, when the family's all home and watching me, like a hawk. But I feel like you ppl are the ones that understand and can help more than any others (that love me or only know what they read in a book). You know, most members here have the "been there, done that"-type advice.... "


Ive been there.. Lived with Family for 6 months when I moved to KNoxville.. They used to watch every move I made. If I was in the bathroom too long oe of them would come bang on the door to see whats up. Constently searching my room opening mail and all kinds of other shit.. I felt like a 15 year old kind

[Duckfeet]

Man, I got mixed feelings about this. I guess as long as it's for people who primarily love opiates. I speedballed until coke and smack do that blissful battle in my bod. Lost most of my main veins to coke binges, and speed, fuck, I rode harleys forever, so....

But I wouldn't want this to be too welcoming to meth heads. Fuckers wil go on and on and on forever, even online, and it gets old. And there are totally different physical problems, the manufacture, cuts, all that. Shit I could just see some fried out predatory speed freak, relentless in their insane endless tweaking questions, where they fight both sides of everything, and then a couple of days later all miserable and morose and needing comfort and support. Plus the avaiability thing, the people that have it, it's all so different.

I'd make it strictly opiophiles who don't mind throwing in some meth or coke with the gear, but the wonderful heart of this website is the opiate addicts, lets face it, and wouldn't want to change that. Hell, I want to hook up with some jabbering methheads, all I got to do is walk a hundred yards to the pier and listen for hoarse voices that can't shut up.

[robojunkie]

I think an ups forum would be cool. Most, if not every single one, has gone on coke binges, speedballs, etc. And yeah I definitely see how the tweak can lead to run on confusing posts with all kinds of confusing shit. But I don't see many real tweakers (ones where the crystal is their DOC) coming here when they got that "dreamy" site anyway. Not to mention the blue site. Also I kinda see a difference between true tweakers/cokeheads and junkies who binge here and there (even junkies not currently using junk!!!) From experience those drugs just aren't as compulsive when you know there's something better, even if you ain't gonna go for it, you know "someday". Plus I could isolate some of my more rambling confused mistyped posts somewhere....

[SuperJunky]

I am not a stimulant person, Ive done them and in rare masochistic moments still do, but I think a Coke forum would be helpful. Maybe just put coke and amp subforum under "Other Drugs." I agree w/ duckfeet, the heart of this board is opiate users, past present etc and I dont want to see the board filled up w/ tweekers and crackheads.

[Curio]

Do we want/need a Cocaine/Amphetamines Forum?
yes

[Cybershark]

Sure I think it would be great to ad another forum for coke and Amphetamines. Many people do it and also have problems with it so where better to go and discuss it then here. :D

[euphoria2002]

Well, since there have been so many threads on this subject why not? We could even have a contest to come up with a name for it. Hi-fi tweakers or something like that.

[MttJocy]

I would agree, the constantly increasing rate of speedballing is certainly something that makes it worth it from the harm reduction perspective, and there are probably alot of people who have binged on these stimulant drugs at some point here who could have some very useful advice and help for the community. I say yes to a coke/amps sub forum.

[Zoops]

never jump out of a flying aircraft without a parachute, never take any stimulant stronger than caffeine without a parachute either.

Did anyone else besides me see the program on National Geographic channel (I think it was National Geographic) about how bad meth is? I swear I never wanna take that shit. I thought crack was the worst, this shit makes crack look like chocolate milk, no shit.

[MttJocy]

never jump out of a flying aircraft without a parachute, never take any stimulant stronger than caffeine without a parachute either.

Well put, points to you.

[El Dave]

Yes. Having done meth and crack, the meth was controllable but the crack wasn't. Crack lies to you in ways no other drug can. Anyone who thinks differently doesn't know how to cook it up right or is hitting off a can or something. Crack is too dangerous. All drug oriented people should know it. Example of why I say this: the single reason I'm not crushing these little 5 mg pure hydro (no APAP at all) pills my dying friend gave me and hitting them up is that the opiophiles here told me not to. Some of us do listen to the voice of experience, and for those folks a conference that includes crack info might save them from making a bad mistake.

[Woowoo]

I vote "yes" for a coke forum.

For many opiophiles, cocaine is a big part of our lives. Few among us are immune from the lures of the coca plant and its mysterious effects on the human mind.

Most of us prefer the 'down' more than 'up' in the drug universe, but all down and no up makes Jack a dull boy. The way that heroin (and friends) interacts with cocaine makes these two drugs go hand in hand for a lot of users. The comedown from cocaine is unbelievably bad, but there is a remedy... opiates!! And so these two drugs are intrinsically related.

I don't know much about speed (amp, methamp) but we might as well lump it into this same forum for obvious reasons.