1st time sub Dosage

[4WheelCrazy]

Hello Everyone,I have been reseaching on this Forum and others about sub Detoxing for 5 hours and have read many diff things on the dose i should take starting subs and would love to hear what you guys think.I have been taking oc's for one year now,it started 1 would last the night and now im up to 4-6 80s a day.I have decided its time to stop for a while and lower my tolerance atleast.I picked up a bunch of 8mg subs and tonight will be my last night eating oc's and boy was it that lol,I plan on taking my 1st dose tomrow Night around 10pm which would Put me at 18 Hours oc free.What do you guys think would be my best bet? Quater/half/whole the 1st dose and so on? and so on?.I was Lucky enouf to get my hands on 50 Subs from a Buddy who detoxed already and didnt need them so im not worried about running out,my main concern is felling the best i could and hope withdrawls arent gona hit me Instantly upon taking my 1st sub,sorry this is so Long Guys and im sure asked offen but any info would be deeply apreciated on my exact tolerance Thanks :D

[kevin]

Have you read the Ultimate Guide to Subs that is stickied to the top of the forum?

The answer is in there.

[Duckfeet]

Hello Everyone,I have been reseaching on this Forum and others about sub Detoxing for 5 hours and have read many diff things on the dose i should take starting subs and would love to hear what you guys think.I have been taking oc's for one year now,it started 1 would last the night and now im up to 4-6 80s a day.I have decided its time to stop for a while and lower my tolerance atleast.I picked up a bunch of 8mg subs and tonight will be my last night eating oc's and boy was it that lol,I plan on taking my 1st dose tomrow Night around 10pm which would Put me at 18 Hours oc free.What do you guys think would be my best bet? Quater/half/whole the 1st dose and so on? and so on?.I was Lucky enouf to get my hands on 50 Subs from a Buddy who detoxed already and didnt need them so im not worried about running out,my main concern is felling the best i could and hope withdrawls arent gona hit me Instantly upon taking my 1st sub,sorry this is so Long Guys and im sure asked offen but any info would be deeply apreciated on my exact tolerance Thanks :D

Yup, I'd hit the search engine, check out the really well put together sub guide, see what u think--welcome to u and to Kevin, too--but I also know that, hell any question I can think of, has already been posted *somewhere* on here, and asking questions is just one of saying "hello, here I am," so I hear you, glad you are here. I posted a question after lurking a bit, so I damn well knew *not* to solicit or I'd catch fury, but I just wanted everybody to know here I was :-)

I myself am on subs, 8mg a day, have been for a month or so. They really work good at getting rid of withdrawals. But they dont' give any buzz at all, best I can tell, eating, *or* fixing them. but like a *whole* lot of people, I just *had* to try. both going way up on them, *and* doing them in forbidden ways ;-)

Unfortunately, even docs are all over the place with how to prescribe these damn things. So online is best bet I can find...but sadly, even online, it seems to depend a lot on which site u go to, whether u see subs as a "wonderful final cure for the disease of addiction," or just another chickenshit gov't attempt to keep us off what we *really* want...in my case, heroin, in other cases, oxys, dilaudids, hydros...usually the forbidden fast acting opiates which actually give us a buzz...

anyway, 18hrs off'em should be enough, probably better to wait 24hrs...or at least be sure u are at least *starting* withdrawals, but oxys get out of your system quicker than methadone, and the 1st detox I was on a few months ago gave me 24 hrs after last oxy....I paid a *lot* of money to get those few days of oxys, coming off mdone maint, believe me...

And, again, it's debatable, but I'd start w/just around 2mg, make sure u aren't getting kicked into early precipitated withdrawal symptoms. If after a couple hrs, u feel better, or at least not kicking, then it's probably all right to take like up to 8mg...but again, this is argued all over the damn place. To me, with subs, less is more, so I wouldn't go over 8mg daily....then after that, find a slow taper that works for you, a few weeks, dropping a couple mgs a week at first, then 1mg, then 1/2mg...

I'm not one that thinks it matters all that much, but some people swear by this or that taper plan. Me, I'm just trying to not get sick...I plan every week to drop down to 4mg, but every week I change my mind. I don't like subs that much, hate being sick more, and being on methadone makes me feel old and tired. Hell, I *am* old and tired, but that's another thread ;-)

Again, check out the permanent posts in bup forum. A couple nice people put together a lot of good stuff, you'll find it useful...

Best wishes to you both,


Duckfeet
all dressed up and nowhere to go
...well, i'm not really all dressed up :-)

[4WheelCrazy]

Thanks you for the responce duck,I just read the Guide and most of my questions were covered,thanks