Fent. laced Heroin

[red26]

Just thought I'd put it out there that over the past weekend(Dec.) there were a few O.D.'s from fentanyl laced smack in Mass.. Its been on the eastern seaboard for a while now but seemed to die down. So, yeah, its back and people are dying from it. The one brand I herd of is "drop dead" no not kidding. All you people out there do a test run first, O.K.?

[shaunclo]

Thanks for the hedas up there Red.

I think its time to take a trip to back east!!

[Duckfeet]

Thanks for the hedas up there Red.

I think its time to take a trip to back east!!

you're sick....I think the same way.

You always hear that, that when there are of o.d.s, everybody always flocks to that corner. I remember first time some white dope hit n.florida, and we weren't used to it. That was first time I overdosed. Big drama, nurse pounding on my chest, all these college kids running around, ambulance...

Next day, I went and got another one....didn't do *quite* as much, lol...

Non heroin addicts will *never* understand us. Harm reduction? I guess that means using my own needle....

[red26]

I dont think we can really help but think "heellll yeahhh baby!" when we hear of smack that strong. I start running through numbers in my head of how long it'll take to get there, how much cash I'll need, where I'll stay, ect. ect. The names they come up with for this stuff too! Cracks me up.

Alittle off subject but: Jersey is about to pass the bill for needle exchanges finally. The only state in the whole country still in that shadow.

[oxymoron]

Yep, that's the first thing I thought of too. Where can I get some !!!!!:rolleyes:. Never understood why folks that sell dope would want to make a drug stronger without charging more for it.

[sweetdreams]

I live in Philly and yes it is back around. (The fent/heroin)
My girlfriend's daughter just overdosed on it 2 weekends ago.

[azuran]

Yep, that's the first thing I thought of too. Where can I get some !!!!!:rolleyes:. Never understood why folks that sell dope would want to make a drug stronger without charging more for it.

Maybe fent is cheaper to produce since you only need tiny quantities. So by putting in fent they can cut the dope a lot lot more.

[Matul]

Oddly enough, we haven't seen / heard of any of the fentanyl stuff in my neck of the woods, from 3 different places also... Knew a guy who would complain sometimes and said that he actually wanted some of it, because he was whining about the current quality.
I thought to myself, 'sure, you say that..now' lolz..

Be good and don't die!

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, last time I *knowingly* was doing it, was about ten years ago, up in Columbus OH, and it was the only thing available...I thought it wasn't *as* good, and a lot of people were really pissed, but I'm not even sure this is the same kind of deal...Seems like lately, whenever there are large amounts of o.d.s happening, that then they find out it was laced w/fentanyl, usually coming--they think--from Mexico....which actually means it's just *shipped* from MX, who knows where it originated.

I worry though, that it might be easier to obtain, or make, than real H, which if done right, takes someone who knows what they are doing, usually a chemist. Once *tar* started happening, and being junkies, we put up with it, I always worried that old time fluffy white heroin might be thing of the past...fentany, I don't know, spooks me....but if i'm *sick* well...

[SpecialGuy69]

hey duck- there was a time before tar? I had no idea. I've never even seen tar, but from what I've read, it's a form of H that is crystalline when fresh, but degrades into the sticky tar formulation over time (without losing potency). Why do they make tar instead of the east coast raw? Weird...

[insaneike]

Oh man, that stuff can be dangerous!!! I've only knowingly had it one time, I think! The stuff was a beige powder and ahs lil 'flakes' of this crystaline looking stuff. Hell it reminded me of dried fent gel udner light(but it wasn't gel, it was more of a solid crystal...). and the stuff took WAY less per dose than usual dope, and it didn't have that bad burn kill dope does, so the only explaination is it was fent laced I guess...? Cause EVERY bag of that kill dope i've had burned like shit when sniffed, and this stuff didn't, and required less per dose than usual bomb dope did...

and when heroin and fentnayl is mixed knowingly BE CAREFUL!!! The only time I've ever came near an OD with opioids was about the 2nd month I was put on the fentanyl patches I was wearing one and thens tarted chasing dope... well then later I KEPT doign a good damn bit of dope, then started mixing fent gel WITHt eh gear and smoking... well, before I knew it I was literally forcing breathing. THis shit was SCARRRY! Hear was pounding so hard, but ultra slow. God was I scared as fuck... I then had my friend watch over me the whole night to make sure I don't need an ambulance... he made me get up now n then and keep walking around the yard... if I was alone god, I could've been fucked!

but that just shows no matter how big your tolerance is, when fentanyl and smack is combined, it will take down any man!!!!

and I don't even shoot, i imagine if u do, start with tiney ass amounts when you cop a new batch...

later

[Flagg]

*always* bump ANYTHING YOU DO from the streets. I don't care how sick you are; drink some froggin' pod tea. Bump your H to see if it isn't fentanyl-laced. If it is, hey, you got a little that will last a LONG LONG way ... but be MORE thankful that you saved yourself.

[red26]

Oddly enough, we haven't seen / heard of any of the fentanyl stuff in my neck of the woods, from 3 different places also... Knew a guy who would complain sometimes and said that he actually wanted some of it, because he was whining about the current quality.
I thought to myself, 'sure, you say that..now' lolz..

Be good and don't die!

Your area is round-about where I first started hearing of O.D.'s from the stuff. There was actually a brand called 'overdose' either in Chicago or Detroit, I'm not sure. This skagg is wicked strong so do like someone said, bump it first.

[pinion]

hey duck- there was a time before tar? I had no idea. I've never even seen tar, but from what I've read, it's a form of H that is crystalline when fresh, but degrades into the sticky tar formulation over time (without losing potency). Why do they make tar instead of the east coast raw? Weird...

You're right, it does start out as a brown powder; but it readily absorbs water (Hygrophobic?) from the air and turns into a gummy, tarry mass pretty quickly. You can just breath on the powder and watch it turn from brown to black.

I think tar is cheaper and maybe easier to make than white dope. I think I also heard that it has something to do with availability of chemicals. I've read that it's pretty easy to purify dope with readily available chemicals and I believe the end product is a white powder no matter what you start with.

[AWOL]

We get both the tar, and the brown powder like back east. I don't know the difference between the two and the "strength" of one over the other is obviously dependant on how much it got stepped on. I guess we're kinda in the middle here so we get a little of both worlds, too bad no white.

[Papa Verine]

I dont think we can really help but think "heellll yeahhh baby!" when we hear of smack that strong. I start running through numbers in my head of how long it'll take to get there, how much cash I'll need, where I'll stay, ect. ect. The names they come up with for this stuff too! Cracks me up.

Alittle off subject but: Jersey is about to pass the bill for needle exchanges finally. The only state in the whole country still in that shadow.

This fentanyl laced heroin has been popping up around Chicago for a couple years now, at least. It's just standard practice to do a little taste test first nowadays. But when a news story comes on here about someone OD'ing, if they mention the area or part of town it was bought in, that part of town gets flooded with customers. We all want that bag that was supposed to kill somebody for advertizing purposes but to be smart and just use it to get real high a few times!!!

[SpecialGuy69]

^^ you really think they OD someone on purpose to push extra dope?

[AWOL]

Maybe it just comes along for the ride. Seems very strange though to be putting fent out there and not charging more for it. I mean, logic dictates that sombody has a process set up as to where it costs less to produce the fent for a fake heroin rush than to run the normal route for heroine. I'm lost now though, I don't even remember what I was typing at the begining of the paragraph, man I'm fucked up.

[Flagg]

^^ you really think they OD someone on purpose to push extra dope?

Definitely not. My guess is that:

a) Dealers know, but are ignorant about how powerful it could be;

b) Dealers know, pass the info along to ignorant people, and the ignorant people second-hand the laced stuff to friends without telling them;

c) The dealer doesn't know because it was lost in translation somewhere among the cutting/mixing/passing down process, creating a horrible accident;

d) Dealer knows, thinks it won't be so bad assuming his addicts are pretty damned hooked anyway and can tolerate, and shits his pants when one of them dies.

e)User knows, thinks he can tolerate it or is too desperate for a hit to think, goes for the gusto and doesn't bump, then gets it hard.

All of these deaths could be averted with legalization of the product with legit dealers, FDA controlled inspections and warning labels, and so on. But, there I am in my fairy-tale world again :p

[nick]

^^ you really think they OD someone on purpose to push extra dope?
I really doubt this happens.It would be pointless and even dangerous for the dealers.As pointed out above people will go looking for this dope and who needs the heat of someone dying on their product.
The only person charged with (I think) attempted murder for selling fent dope and having someone OD is a guy called Corry Crump from Chi town.The poor guy sold to a sheriffs son who inconveniently kicked it.This obviously led to some cops being very pissed.Poor Corry.
I've heard of a batch of fent dope being called DOA.Hardy ha ha.

[flipside]

Thanks for the hedas up there Red.

I think its time to take a trip to back east!!

you're sick....I think the same way.

You always hear that, that when there are of o.d.s, everybody always flocks to that corner. I remember first time some white dope hit n.florida, and we weren't used to it. That was first time I overdosed. Big drama, nurse pounding on my chest, all these college kids running around, ambulance...

Next day, I went and got another one....didn't do *quite* as much, lol...

Non heroin addicts will *never* understand us. Harm reduction? I guess that means using my own needle....

Ha! Well said both of you

It is being called Body Bag at home from what my friend told me the other night. Actually Body Bag is a well established proiduct in a certain spot ( guess they got some of that Fent laced stuff finally)yes we all want that *good* stuff, cause we know at least we are going to get something that is at least not stepped on 10x over. And of course *we* are not gonna be the one's to OD.:rolleyes: But the lines start forming around the block as soon as you hear someone dropped from a certain bag on a certain corner. Crazy.

[scikid]

I don't know if its still around my city. But it was dropping kids left and right, of course it didn't gain media attention until some farm boys came up and ended up dead in their car

[MikeyFlowers]

What's the experience of doing this stuff like? I got some dope in MA very recently that gave a very strong feeling of being "messed up", dizzy, off balance, very slow. It felt very noticeably different from other dope I've done and somewhere in my mind I thought maybe this is fent. dope but then I really didn't care. Anybody who has done verifiable fent. dope think this sounds like the product?

[Papa Verine]

^^ you really think they OD someone on purpose to push extra dope?

It's often believed to be the case here. This isn't just some theory of mine. It's commonly believed that some gangs will do this to get the word out that they have the best dope. There's A lot of competition in this city. You can go to any number of places to buy heroin here. Every spot has their own little differences in packaging. Foil, capsules, colored tape, little baggies... They have 2 for 1 deals, new spots will give away the first bag when they open, word spreads!!! I know the last time the news reported people OD'ing from fent-laced dope sold at a specific housing project, everybody went there. It brings on some heat, the police arrest a few low-level street dealers, but the operation keeps going. They are still selling dope there. They never stopped selling dope there.

[SuperJunky]

What's the experience of doing this stuff like? I got some dope in MA very recently that gave a very strong feeling of being "messed up", dizzy, off balance, very slow. It felt very noticeably different from other dope I've done and somewhere in my mind I thought maybe this is fent. dope but then I really didn't care. Anybody who has done verifiable fent. dope think this sounds like the product?

I've gotten some dope like this recently from my back up guy. Don't think it is fent, it doesn't even feel like an opiate.

I got some dope today from the same back up guy but I'm pretty sure he has fent shit today. Very intense rush but almost no high. I came down by the time I got home. (Ilive in NH and drive 20 mins south into mass) Now I'm starting to get sick. Even if that happens with the dope I usually get I'm not sick untill the next morning. Also note I don't buy stamps, I get 1/2 G's. Any one else get there shit in mass? If you do buy stamps are they from blacks or puertericans? I can get stamps but there usually not worth it. One guy I used to see was buying the same shit I was and rebagging it.

[phunkypez1]

What color is the fent dope thats in your area?? a couple months back swims buddy had a couple zips of it, the first batch was white, and it felt kinda "squeeky" when you squeezed the bag it was in, the second batch was a minty green color, and way better than the first.... a few of swims buddys OD'd off a couple lines of it. Swim almost od'd one night while using the green dope. It was some really strong shit, and good for smoking. But Swims friends who IV said the white one did'nt hit as hard compared to smoking or sniffing.... Kinda wierd.