Morphine IR 10 MG

[applesauce]

Hi,

I have these tan / brown colored pills, they are more or less round but not perfectly. They are not scored. If you wipe the brown coloring off of them, they are white underneath.

The imprint is 10 MG, it says that on one side with the 10 placed over the MG.

There is no imprint on the other side.

I am confident that they are 10 MG morphine sulphate, but I am wondering if anyone might recognize that specific brand and be able to tell me anything about it. They are supposed to be IR, and I'm just wondering if they will be as simple as just crushing them to fine powder then mixing it with hot distilled water and filtering with a syringe filter.

But of course, how often is it really that easy...

Thanks for any pointers.

[AWOL]

Hmmmmmm. I swear I've had those same pills, but scored with ETH on the one side.

If you want to know how well they'll break down all I can really say is give it a go. If they are IR and you are 200% certain that they're morphine sulfate, I imagine you'll not have a problem. If you're unsure, check back on your post later to see what others say.

[SpecialGuy69]

applesauce- wow this is like the 5th thread of yours I've read today. Not a bad thing, just an observation. Have you run this pill through www.pharmer.org (http://www.pharmer.org) ? They have a very complete imprint catalog for narcotics. I've never run across a pill I couldn't identify on there.

Here's an easy way to tell if it's time-release: Try and scrape the pill- if there is a coating on it, it's probably time-release. If there is no coating, chances are high that it's instant release.

Oh - and use cold water, no heat- I've heard that some morphine sulfate IR pills foam up when exposed to heat or hot water.

[AWOL]

Hi,

I have these tan / brown colored pills, they are more or less round but not perfectly. They are not scored. If you wipe the brown coloring off of them, they are white underneath.

What do you mean by they're "more or less round, but not perfectly" ? I've not ever seen a more or less, but not perfectly round pill that was anything I'd want to be sticking in my veins, or in my mouth for that matter.


(Just my opinion, don't take this as fact. But I don't think anyone makes a 10mg extended release morphine sulfate. I have seen 15mg ER, but never a 10mg ... again, just what me-thinks sort of thing. Hoping someone maybe can clarify that.)

[applesauce]

Hmmmmmm. I swear I've had those same pills, but scored with ETH on the one side.

If you want to know how well they'll break down all I can really say is give it a go. If they are IR and you are 200% certain that they're morphine sulfate, I imagine you'll not have a problem. If you're unsure, check back on your post later to see what others say.

Thanks DV. I started out by eating 4 of them and in an hours time, I was pretty sure they were what they were supposed to be. The source is reputable. I am fairly sure they were produced in a third-world nation.

I tested solubility the best and safest way that I could think of - I crushed two of them to powder and dissolved them i(the best that I could) in hot distilled water and plugged them following a nice guide found on this site.

They didn't dissolve totally in the water. I'm spoiled by Dillys, I guess. :)

I was just wondering if anybody could ID the source so that I might UtMFSE and learn more.

Thanks mucho for the reply.

[applesauce]

applesauce- wow this is like the 5th thread of yours I've read today. Not a bad thing, just an observation. Have you run this pill through www.pharmer.org (http://www.pharmer.org) ? They have a very complete imprint catalog for narcotics. I've never run across a pill I couldn't identify on there.

I'm in an opiate phase lately, which initiated my web searches for additional information I found this board just the other night, I had just assumed poppies.org was the end-all of opiate boards and that was that. Poppies is a great site, but so is this, so I joined, read for a few days to get a feel for the social atmosphere, then jumped in with some questions that I've had regarding opiates. It is like suddenly being in a roomful of people who are experts on a subject that I don't know a whole lot about. It's great! So after the first week or so, I imagine I'll just be quiet and occasionally chime in when I feel like I have something to contribute. Right now, I'm in the "ask all those opiate questions I've been meaning to brush up on" phase. I Use The MF Search Engine technique, and sometimes I start a new thread, depending upon the specifics of the question. [/quote]


Here's an easy way to tell if it's time-release: Try and scrape the pill- if there is a coating on it, it's probably time-release. If there is no coating, chances are high that it's instant release.

Then these are time-release, they have a coating that is almost identical to OC. I wet a kleenex and wipe it off and the brown color comes off onto the kleenex and the pill itself becomes white. I was told they are IR, but again, that's part of why I asked here. The coating could easily be just dye or something though, it requires no scrubbing, just water. Then again, same with oxy.

Oh - and use cold water, no heat- I've heard that some morphine sulfate IR pills foam up when exposed to heat or hot water.

These don't foam up, they just don't dissolve clean. I know morphine is somewhat sensitive and doesn't like to be heated, so what I do is microwave a small beaker of distilled water until it is hot. Not boiling hot, but hot enough to possibly make it dissolve easier.

[AWOL]

Well .... don't you dare do this. But if I had the pills, what I would do (and what you shouldn't do) is..



Well, the fillers may not dissolve entirely in the water. That is probably what is precipitating out if they are infact IR. If you're sure that they're IR then the morphine sulfate will dissolve.

You could break them down with hot water, wait for water to cool, filter, and try 1 of them. You’ll know if what is precipitating out is some sort of MSER, or filler. Though the ER stuff usually will gel up, or be little balls that don't break down or something like that.


But again, I feel hesitant giving this sort of advice. That is what I would do, but that doesn’t mean that’s what the smart thing to do is :p So if you're not in a rush wait and see if anyone has some better advice. I'm very doubtfull anyone is going to be able to ID that pill.

[Papa Verine]

Thanks DV. I started out by eating 4 of them and in an hours time, I was pretty sure they were what they were supposed to be. The source is reputable. I am fairly sure they were produced in a third-world nation.

I tested solubility the best and safest way that I could think of - I crushed two of them to powder and dissolved them i(the best that I could) in hot distilled water and plugged them following a nice guide found on this site.

They didn't dissolve totally in the water. I'm spoiled by Dillys, I guess. :)

I was just wondering if anybody could ID the source so that I might UtMFSE and learn more.

Thanks mucho for the reply.

Damn good pharms they're whipping up in "Third World nations"

[applesauce]

I based that 'third-world nation' remark on the subjective opinion of a friend who has the same pills from the same IOP source. The friend is much more opiate-knowledgeable than I am, and he said something about the way modern medicinal morphine is created from another opiate alkaloid or something - anyway, his more discerning palette decided this is where they are from.

I really don't know - I know I used to be able to tell at least a little bit about cocaine - the way it tastes in your mouth when you run it gives you a taste of some of the solvents, so I can see how someone familiar with a particular manufacturing process and how it is commonly done in different parts of the world could consider it to be "third-world nation" morphine.

I realize that my comment wasn't very scientific, but it came from someone whose opinion I trust a lot in this arena. I have quite a few of these to test, so by the time I'm done I should have it down pat.

My friend has used 8 pills and some vacuum and filters and a "kit" of the sort that are popular on steroid sites to create a rubber-top multi-use vial of bacteriostatic water and morphine, so whenever he wants a shot he can just pop one. I have the same kit and the pills, and I'm thinking about doing the same thing.

I'm more concerned about having access to a vial of "ready-to-bang" M in my little "chemical mood safe". I don't use opiates a lot - at least not NOW. I don't want that to change, at least not too much.

[SpecialGuy69]

sauce- you got the wrong idea- I'm not telling you to shut up. As long as you have used the search engine, I'll do my best to answer all the questions I can. The only thing I'd ask is to kinda consolidate it down, but I guess if you have a lot of unrelated questions (which seems to be the case) then this is the only way to do it, and you did fine. Don't sweat it.

All good.

[applesauce]

sauce- you got the wrong idea- I'm not telling you to shut up. As long as you have used the search engine, I'll do my best to answer all the questions I can. The only thing I'd ask is to kinda consolidate it down, but I guess if you have a lot of unrelated questions (which seems to be the case) then this is the only way to do it, and you did fine. Don't sweat it.

All good.

Thanks tm420tm, I really appreciate it. I guess I do have some unrelated questions about this particular pill, the main one being "what is its exact composition" and I was hoping to determine that by figuring out who the manufacturer is, or maybe someone might recognize it.

My attention span is about 20 seconds for a conversation and about 30 seconds if it is life and death, so I probably hopped around topic-wise more than I should have. Sorry for the confusion ;)

[sk8opium]

i think i got a similar pill for my 15mg MSIR. Just snort it (it wont burn). not that I've tried, but if you cook it up it will most likely turn into sludge. you could pull out the pure stuff but its not worth it. Shooting 10mg of morphine wont do anything.

Have fun.

[AWOL]

i think i got a similar pill for my 15mg MSIR. Just snort it (it wont burn). not that I've tried, but if you cook it up it will most likely turn into sludge. you could pull out the pure stuff but its not worth it. Shooting 10mg of morphine wont do anything.

Have fun.

10 won't do much, but it can tell him a lot. Plus he stated that he has quite a good number of them.

[applesauce]

That's kind of what I was thinking, using one of them could tell me some things about the potency and solubility of these particular pills. Better would be a direct ID on the pill so that I can reference some information about the fillers and so forth, but it isn't that big a deal, I can just mash one up, push it through a syringe filter and then run the filtered liquid.

That should tell me everything that I need to know about these pills, I was just hoping to be able to put a name to them is all.

Pharmer.org didn't find them, but I may not have given it enough data. I've had it fail before because I was too lazy to go through all of the permutations possible, i.e. is it "brown" or is it "tan" and is it "round" (like a Marinol basketball) or is it "round" like an aspirin...there are so many subjective ways to describe a pill that searches like Pharmer just don't always work. I even left the search as broad as possible, saying only that it was a tablet with 10 MG imprinted on it, but still no dice.

No biggie though, they do the trick so I'm going to give one a shot (no pun).

Big thanks to everyone, I really appreciate your thoughts!