Grrr APAP HELP!

[OpiBli$$1988]

OK so ive run outa all my codeines, BUT i did save all the white goop from the coffee filters from my extractions, SO I NEED UR ADVICE on how to proceed with this. (i had 60 codeines w/ 500mg apap...so ive collected around 30,000 mgs of apap) i want to be very careful with this new extration im planning on doing with this goop. SO ANY1 HAVE NE ADVICE ON HOW TO PROCEED?...i was think of mixin the goop in some warm water then freezing the fuck outa it and then using like 6 coffee filters at a time n when the "drips" slow down ill just change out a new coffe filter to speed things up...after that im gunna do another "freezing" to make sure all the APAP is out and refilter once more. ANY OF YOU GUYS SEE NE THING WRONG W/ MY PLAN, I RELE WANA GET HIGH BUT DONT WANA FUCK UP MY LIVER WITH TOO MUCH APAP. PLZ HELP THX ;]

ps. should i not even bother w/ warm water since its my 2nd filtration on the codienes or wut?

[shaunclo]

I dont think a 2nd extraction would yeild any worthwhile goodies. I could be wrong though. But I am pretty sure that you get all the codeine out in the 1st extraction.

[SpecialGuy69]

do not do that shit. you have 30 grams of poison on your hands, possibly with a few mg of shitty opiate mixed in. flush it before you decide to do something like this again. It's a really bad idea- 30mg of APAP is TOXIC AS SHIT!!!!

Please give it up man your gonna hurt yourself- flush this mess asap before you get tempted again. The only thing it's useful for is patching drywall.

[OpiBli$$1988]

Ive read before in other threads about ppl doin 2nd washes on the goop...i can even see some shiny crystals in it. Fuck im just so sick of exam finals n research papers from college i might just try it anyway, i reaaaaaaly wanna get high. Ty for the responses guys. Anyone else have ne imput?

Like whats the safest way to do this if i do it...should i use warm water like normal extractions or just freeze the fuck outa it...let the apap settle to the bottom and filter or what?

[Duckfeet]

Ive read before in other threads about ppl doin 2nd washes on the goop...i can even see some shiny crystals in it. Fuck im just so sick of exam finals n research papers from college i might just try it anyway, i reaaaaaaly wanna get high. Ty for the responses guys. Anyone else have ne imput?

Like whats the safest way to do this if i do it...should i use warm water like normal extractions or just freeze the fuck outa it...let the apap settle to the bottom and filter or what?

Doing second washes is for burntout old junkies that got no choice and could give a shit less about their livers. You're young, don't be silly bro, thro it away...

[shaunclo]

Opibliss, I think you are getting confused to what people are doing 2nd washes on. I have never heard anyone doing a 2nd extraction on their CWE's only with their pods.

Once you do the 1st extraction, you get all the goodies outta there. All that is left is the APAP, not the codeine. Please listen to TM and myself when we say this is a very bad idea. It could probably lead to some fucked up liver and maybe even an OverDose of APAP.

Like I said before, you get all the codeine out in the first wash, there is nothing left to get out of a 2nd wash. That is only with pods bro.

[OpiBli$$1988]

POSTED BY VAV VA or some name like that -WOOOOOOOOOAAAHHH HOLD ON. It is called a cold water extraction for a good reason. KETTLE ARE YOU INSANE ? codeine disintergrates in light and hot temperatures. You need cold water and need to be using around 100ml for 32 tablets and then re extracting the goop with anouther 100ml and using something good for a filter.

ive read it multiple places under the codeine shit, i rarly look at pod section.

I dont kno, how would i fuck my liver up if i freeze all that shit in water? i thought all the apap seperates when freezing cold, thus leaving little to no apap in the final solution no?

i dunno i gotta finish up some shit and ill decide round 12ish what ima do...i kno i should listen to all you guys, i have lotsa respect...bur right now im feindin for some codeine :( ...lol silly i kno "feinding" when codeines the weakest opi out there ;[

[SpecialGuy69]

^^ like shaunclo said- second washes is for morphine shots or pods. PLEASE flush that shit right away- you ran out of dope, and there's no codiene left in the huge pile of poison you got there.

It's possible there is a TINY bit left, but i can promise you, you WILL get sick as shit if you try what your planning. You asked for our advice, and we gave it. Shaunclo and I both have done many, many CWE's and know what we are talking about.

Running out is part of the opiophile's life- you gotta deal with it. It sucks, but it's gonna happen. Seriously, you might want to take this as a warning that you are headed down the wrong path and bail out now before you get in too deep. Everyone on this site with a sad story started off the same way you did at some point, and they all thought they were too smart to get addicted, too. Opiates are mindfucks, and you aren't going to be the one to beat the system, especially if you are considering drinking poison to get high off codiene.

Codiene is a shitty opiate anyways, even if you don't have a tolerance. Get some pods or something. www.google.com - that's your ticket to pods. If you search there, you will find most of the sources people around here guard so closely, and you won't piss anyone off by asking for their source, either.

Good luck, opiobliss, I hope you make the right decesion and flush the APAP and stick to weed. I'm not trying to be an asshole and tell you to fuck off, I'm truly concerned for your future and don't want to see you fuck up.

[SpecialGuy69]

sorry for the double post, opiobliss posted while I was writing. If you did the first cwe properly, you won't have any codiene left in the apap. The crystals you see are APAP, not codiene. The other shit (not crystals) is the binders and inactive ingredients that are there to hold the pill together and give it mass. If the pill was only active ingredients, it would be tiny and fall apart.

There may be a tiny bit of codiene left, but in order to get it out, you're going to have to let the APAP through, too. You'll either do one of 2 things: get no APAP or codiene or get a TINY amount of codiene and LOTS of APAP. It's just the way things work.

I'm not going to tell you again- you aren't listening anyways- DONT DO THIS!!! shaunclo and I know what we are talking about. We'd both tell you if it was possible for you to get high, and I'd tell you if it was dangerous but packed a buzz. There is only risk, no reward. Sorry. Get on the phone and call some dealers.

DONT BE STUPID!!!!!!!!

[Duckfeet]

Don't be so quick to jump down into the bottom levels of junky life. Last time I was gobblin' down rinses trying to get right, I was sick all day, and ended up with a kidney stone. and I was kicking dilaudids and was just trying to get well. Once you're here, it's impossible to go back to what you were. You'll miss those days when your biggest problem was late research papers. Look hard, look hard...

[Dan Steely]

give it up man you know they're right

[OpiBli$$1988]

"you arnt listening anyways"-tm420tm...oh i was listening...just not what i wanted to hear, life sucks...i took u guys advice and flushed it. Thanks for lookin out4 me n givin quick responces, preciate it...i guess its time to stop by iamshamen n get some kratom loll :(

[Duckfeet]

"you arnt listening anyways"-tm420tm...oh i was listening...just not what i wanted to hear, life sucks...i took u guys advice and flushed it. Thanks for lookin out4 me n givin quick responces, preciate it...i guess its time to stop by iamshamen n get some kratom loll :(

Yeah, were not trying to keep you out of some wonderful forbidden temple, brother. I know you've withstood a lot of shit on here, and to your credit you kept bouncing back, and did your trip to Mexico with class. It's just, when I was your age I jumped in with both feet, thinking, I don't know, that being a junky would like, make me part of this really cool kind of international crowd of hipsters. I went to Tangier, and wrote some really crappy short stories, and thought what a life I'd become part of.

But the trouble is, this stuff takes everything you got, and doesn't always pay good in return. And when u *do* get tired of it, and say, fuck this, I'm gonna sail around the world, or go to Paris and chase girls and sing songs about love in the twilight...you can't. Heroin owned me, and never really spat me back out. You keep upping the ante on these little opiates, and one day u gotta do stronger opiates to get that same buzz, and then maybe swallowing them don't work, so u just shoot'em up "...once, just to see what it's like" and then maybe one more time, and before you know it, your stealing t.v. sets for a fix.

Oh well, have fun.

[OpiBli$$1988]

Your totally right duck, and like tm said maybe its time to reevaluate the road im headed down...belive me i dont want to become an addict nor a "junky"...its just hard to turn my back on the shit now, i have a sort of love for opiates now...hopefully ill just stick to kratom n the percs or whatever they give me after my wisdom teeth r removed...then after that i might just call it quits...just from those weak ass codeines i feel the urge to get op'ed up calling me. Im not ready to quit yet, basicly just gotten started, but hopefully ill be able to resist and quit in the months to come...

Thx for the words guyz, im glad i flushed that shit now...

Night all

[tptptp]

Forget about the percs, if I were you I wouldnt take whatever the doc prescribes me...just get the fuck out while you can because YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO DECIDES WHEN YOUVE CROSSED THE LINE, you dont sound like you have yet, but its not going to be your option much longer, and once its too late, its too late.

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

Your totally right duck, and like tm said maybe its time to reevaluate the road im headed down...belive me i dont want to become an addict nor a "junky"...its just hard to turn my back on the shit now, i have a sort of love for opiates now...hopefully ill just stick to kratom n the percs or whatever they give me after my wisdom teeth r removed...then after that i might just call it quits...just from those weak ass codeines i feel the urge to get op'ed up calling me. Im not ready to quit yet, basicly just gotten started, but hopefully ill be able to resist and quit in the months to come...

Thx for the words guyz, im glad i flushed that shit now...

Night all



LISTEN TO EVERYONE MAN. I never used to getinvolved in telling people
"to think twice about the road you heading down speech."
But you know what man....i am telling you now. I dont know, ive been going through a real hard time lately man. the opio lifestyle has its Highs (REALLY AWESOME HIGHS) but it has its miserable fucking lows. I mean i run out of my oxies and have to eat enough apap to fucking kill my liver...and i feel....well i feel desperate. For example i ran out of my oxies and i managed to score some perks...and no matter how much i eat i cant catch a buzz. I end up doing stuff i wouldnt/dont want to do....and its cause im stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Im glad you listened to the boys up there....they have good advice. Theyve been through hell and back. And back again. We just dont want people sufferin, i mean if its too late...its too late. Your welcome here anyway...you enjoy Opiates thats enough

I have a ball of fuckin old APAP shit myself. I know i shouldnt ever eat it...but i still have it...I know its fucked up its pretty much the same deal as you. ive had it for like half a year. I should flush it...but in the back of my mind there might be 10mg's of oxy in there....WOOPTY FUCKIN DOO maybe one day itll get me high...fuck that. Ive had 80mgs or so + hydros today and to me its all bullshit you know, if i didnt have some xanax id be loosin my mind.

Yeah us opiophile get high and its great....but we all pay a heavy fuckin price.

Im sorry everyone....im usually not like this i dont even feel like im makin sense, im probably not....im just stressed out. ive done good i went 6 or 7 days scrapin by with shitty percocets and hydros, and benzos and im too the point were im startin to lose it.

Im sayin this man cause it looks like to me your headin in a similar situation with your desire to second washes and shit. I know how it is man. I feel your pain. I know youll probably keep walkin down the path....and thats alright man...i love opiates...and in a way i think all the pain is worth it....because it feels so good to feel "Right"...ya know.

I WISH WE COULD ALL BE HI AND HAPPY TOGETHER ENJOYIN LIFE....but i know thats not how it is.

lotta love to this community...again im sorry to piss and moan it aint even my thread here...sorry man.

[OpiBli$$1988]

^^NP bro i take all ya'llz posts to heart an that made perfect sense to me prizefighterinferno. I kno i dont want to continue to abuse opies (well i do, but ima quit...dont wanna end up another horror story)...Ima just experiment w/ kratom and whatever i get from my doc for that surgery i talked bout, n quit after that. Ive followed "nicks" thread on kickin heroin n im confident ill be able to quit all this shit (he had the will power to quit heroin so im sure ill be able to kick these minor opies). Right now im just stickn to Booze, dro, girlz n my left over xanxz...opies aint even on my mind that much ne more...SO FUCKIN GLAD I JOINED THIS COMMUNITY, props to all who posted in this thread...specially you duckfeet, shaunclo, tm420, tp, dan, n prizefighterinferno... i sound like a fuckin girl but rrele i love u guyz. FOR RL if i had just been a lurker n not joined opiophile to ask questions i might be dead right now or have liver damage. Ive said it time n time again...so much respect guyz. THX for lookin out4me, pretty much alls i gota say right now and good luck n peace to u all. Ima lil drunk right now off some jack but ima try n give all you guyz my rep points, mighta saved my life, i feel like kickin myself in the face right now bc of how stupid my post was, ne ways peace n take care..

[OpiBli$$1988]

WELL fuck im so retarded i dont kno how to give my rep points away..ill try again 2 morrow when im sober........lol..................

[vaxn8]

There is really a lot of false info in this thread. The best way to do an extraction includes repeating the solvent change at least 3 times. In the case of codeine/oxycodone/hydro- the last time I spent any time on extraction was in grad school. At that time, I was getting at best 70% from the first extract and that was using a full lab- no way i could repeat that in a house. Second extract would get between 15-20% out and 7-10% on the third. If i was ever going to try to do it in a house again, I would personally do at least 4 solvent changes. Depending on technique, you're not going to get much more than 60-65% using a kitchen. It's totally fine and works in a kitchen, but you have to understand the limitations and account for them.

[OxyContinuously]

Ive read before in other threads about ppl doin 2nd washes on the goop...i can even see some shiny crystals in it. Fuck im just so sick of exam finals n research papers from college i might just try it anyway, i reaaaaaaly wanna get high. Ty for the responses guys. Anyone else have ne imput?

Like whats the safest way to do this if i do it...should i use warm water like normal extractions or just freeze the fuck outa it...let the apap settle to the bottom and filter or what?


I agree w/ whomever said not to do this bc of shitty yields, but if you MUST, then here's how i would proceed. Take all the shit, mix it with the coldest water you can. Then put this beaker/glass/tray whatever you have the "goop and cold water" in and put this in another bucket or something filled with water and add about a quarter cup table salt to this new container (do not put salt into the goop/codeine mix) with a fresh tray of ice cubes. What this will do is keep the solution as cold as it can get (33 deg F or so, being that 32 is freezing) and at the same time, while your codeine is separating from the poison, the salt in the second receptacle will rpevent the water from A) freezing on you, and B) keeping it very chilled even after the ice cubes start to melt. Stir the mix (from the original glass w the goop/cod) mix for about 45 minutes or so, take it out of the second container, and while still almost freezing, THEN filter it. APAP does still dissolve in cold cold water (albeit in very small amounts; but those amounts can become a problem when you are working with 30 grams of material to start) Be very careful and this is a suggestion that will give you the least amount of APAP. Use common sense, maybe do the filtration as i stated above, then let the remaining APAP dry with the help of a microwave or whatever and compare its weight to the original weight of the goop/codeine globs. THis way you will know just how much APAP is still around plus you will have an exact figure on how much codeine is there. But I can't stress enough that this is a LAST RESORT METHOD. hope this helps and be smart. The weighing, IMO, is VERY NECESSARY; if you don't have a scale, don't do it. Period.

OxyC

[satori]

I always do two extracts because with just one i dont feel i get much more then half. I was freaked out (like usual) when i read what people were saying about it being dangerous. I always have a ton of stuff in the filter and can see through the liquid so i know i filtered out 99% of what was in it (plus i have never filtered more then 14 pills at one time). BUT! My mind still races "what if a lot got through". Not much of a chance a dangerous amount got through.... especialy since i was only using it once a day and no more then 14 (7 grams apap) co-comadol. RIIIIIIIGHT?

(i didnt want to make ANOTHER post so i asked in here)

[OxyContinuously]

I always do two extracts because with just one i dont feel i get much more then half. I was freaked out (like usual) when i read what people were saying about it being dangerous. I always have a ton of stuff in the filter and can see through the liquid so i know i filtered out 99% of what was in it (plus i have never filtered more then 14 pills at one time). BUT! My mind still races "what if a lot got through". Not much of a chance a dangerous amount got through.... especialy since i was only using it once a day and no more then 14 (7 grams apap) co-comadol. RIIIIIIIGHT?

(i didnt want to make ANOTHER post so i asked in here)


Don't worry man. If you can see through the solution, that's half the battle. APAP is disgusting and settles to the bottom or whatever; bottom line it's visible. And obviously, I know you used chilled water for the extract. You should be fine. APAP's solubility in cold water is not zero, but it is so minute, that poisoning shouldn't even be an issue. Plus, you didn't have that many pills to start with, so you had less material to work with, hence a lesser chance of error and a more concentrated final product.

OxyC